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SirChris
05/28/23 1:58:45 PM
#51:


Corrik7 posted...
I think it is highly possible Chris is an independent. Those fish are not harmless. And that he didn't have to reveal he was giving them out, but did so in fact to obfuscate his role as being town and fun, quirky, gimmicky instead of the actual sinister nature it is.

Basically, I believe he is dousing you all in oil and will light everyone on fire when the time is right to win. The oil is just you holding a goldeen in this case.

But, I'm not 100% on it. But, it does line up with Chris immediately assuming scum was a 4 man team despite the fact that the game requires 5 to be 25-33% for the scum team which is normal.

Been playing offsite a lot lately where the numbers for scum are a little lower overall actually so I have gotten used to it

Notably over 10 game days in poke wars I never assumed the scum team was less than 6 even though I was positive it was 5

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changmas
05/28/23 2:00:02 PM
#52:


the pokeballs they come in are actually voltorbs / electrodes

i explained how this works on day 2

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:00:55 PM
#53:


changmas posted...
the pokeballs they come in are actually voltorbs / electrodes

i explained how this works on day 2

But then you wouldn't have a goldeen. Those polemon don't open up and have pokemon inside of them

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changmas
05/28/23 2:02:01 PM
#54:


see the goldeen has never gone back inside the supposed 'pokeball' yet

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wallmasterz
05/28/23 2:03:02 PM
#55:


changmas posted...
the pokeballs they come in are actually voltorbs / electrodes

i explained how this works on day 2

Im pretty sure I thought you were shit posting.

Well that lines up with it being something bad. The Voltorbs/electrodes self destruct

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Cody11533
05/28/23 2:03:10 PM
#56:


I imagine if Corrik is right, the flavor would be more likely to be Arceus smiting everyone holding a Goldeen, since Chris mentioned Arceus previously as part of the flavor.

I do not currently subscribe to your theory Corrik, but I appreciate you laying it out and explaining it.

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changmas
05/28/23 2:03:58 PM
#57:


i am always shitposting

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Corrik7
05/28/23 2:04:27 PM
#58:


It was according to wiki a rumor they could active horn drill and oko the player. It was proven false, but wouldn't that be a twist if Kirby included it in the game. End of the day, flavor doesn't have to completely match the game. The goldeen can simply just not be harmless after all and been said to be goldeen to be viewed as harmless.

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wallmasterz
05/28/23 2:04:49 PM
#59:


I guess another problem with Chris claim is why as town would you spell this out for scum which practically ensures you will never be able to successfully give everyone in the game a goldeen

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:04:53 PM
#60:


Cody11533 posted...
I imagine if Corrik is right, the flavor would be more likely to be Arceus smiting everyone holding a Goldeen, since Chris mentioned Arceus previously as part of the flavor.

I do not currently subscribe to your theory Corrik, but I appreciate you laying it out and explaining it.
Thank you this makes sense

Arceus gonna smite all you fools.

Enjoy your goldeen corrik heh heh

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:05:45 PM
#61:


wallmasterz posted...
I guess another problem with Chris claim is why as town would you spell this out for scum which practically ensures you will never be able to successfully give everyone in the game a goldeen

Cause I wanted to

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Corrik7
05/28/23 2:06:22 PM
#62:


When an arsonist douses you with oil, you aren't told you are doused with oil. Thus, saying it is harmless wouldn't be any different than not informing at all but given a quirk where you could claim it to "confirm" your role also.

It would obviously be a variant of it and not a 1:1 role.

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:08:12 PM
#63:


Okay corrik who should I douse tonight iyo

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Corrik7
05/28/23 2:08:53 PM
#64:


SirChris posted...
Okay corrik who should I douse tonight iyo
How about you choose not to.

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:09:08 PM
#65:


Corrik7 posted...
How about you choose not to.

Gross

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Corrik7
05/28/23 2:09:36 PM
#66:


SirChris posted...
Gross
Exactly what an arsonist would say

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:10:13 PM
#67:


Corrik7 posted...
Exactly what an arsonist would say

True

Can't believe you caught me

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Corrik7
05/28/23 2:10:24 PM
#68:


SirChris posted...
True

Can't believe you caught me
I'm pretty good, bro.

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:10:38 PM
#69:


Corrik7 posted...
I'm pretty good, bro.

Amazing, really.

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:11:21 PM
#70:


Corrik for sure getting a fish tonight.

Heh heh

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Corrik7
05/28/23 2:11:45 PM
#71:


SirChris posted...
Amazing, really.
Why thank you. But, my birthday is tomorrow not today. You don't have to compliment me for another 10 hours yet.

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:13:10 PM
#72:


Corrik7 posted...
Why thank you. But, my birthday is tomorrow not today. You don't have to compliment me for another 10 hours yet.
Happy early birthday mate. Hope it and memorial day treat ya well

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Corrik7
05/28/23 2:15:58 PM
#73:


SirChris posted...
Happy early birthday mate. Hope it and memorial day treat ya well

Let the good times roll.

https://youtu.be/8Xb90crlmqc

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wallmasterz
05/28/23 2:18:46 PM
#74:


SirChris posted...
Cause I wanted to

This doesnt really sit very well with me tho

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:18:48 PM
#75:


Anyway @corrik7 time to sheep me

##vote: lea

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:19:03 PM
#76:


wallmasterz posted...
This doesnt really sit very well with me tho
I earnestly couldn't care less!

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Corrik7
05/28/23 2:19:13 PM
#77:


Already on Lea.

Baaaa

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:19:48 PM
#78:


Oh OK

Anyway I am a fish vendor with a weird gimmick. It felt fun to claim and so I did.

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SirChris
05/28/23 2:20:10 PM
#79:


Ngl pretty cool people can name them tho

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Corrik7
05/28/23 2:21:59 PM
#80:


Wait I think that's a hammer by Chris.

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Corrik7
05/28/23 2:25:01 PM
#81:


Every Votal Caught in the Struggle
[5] Lea - Plum, Ulti, Corrik, Wallz, (Chang), Cody. Chang, Chris
[1] Cody - Lea
[1] Plum - SBell
[1] Ulti - MZero

STOP

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Kirby321
05/28/23 2:45:31 PM
#82:


That is indeed a STOP.

Please give me a few minutes to post the flip as I am currently not home right now

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Kirby321
05/28/23 3:08:21 PM
#83:


Valiant and swift, this fighter has been giving it their all in this battle. Knowing how everything will end without their efforts, they have no choice but to keep fighting. Taking down opponents left and right countering their hits, breaking their defenses, and making sure they never return from the depths.

One person can only do so much. With nary a break, they continue to fight, until they eventually meet their match. Though their spirit remains unbroken, fatigue and exertion catch up to them. No it cant end here. Not after everything they went through. Just one last push The warrior makes one last stand, aiming to triumph over their adversary.

But the future refused to change.

Player 8 defeated!

Lea has been KOd!

You are Lucina, The Warrior from a Doomed Future, BLUE TEAM Bodyguard.

Witnessing the Fell Dragon Grima laying waste to your homeland, you traveled back to the past to stop the Fell Dragons resurrection. Though the losses of your loved ones weigh heavy on your heart, your resolve is unwavering, and though you doubt yourself and your abilities, your compassion for others makes you a natural-born leader. Armed with the Parallel Falchion and determined to alter the course of fate, you enter the fields of battle.

Youve lost too many allies already. You have the resolve to do whatever it takes to change the future, and if it comes down to noble sacrifice, so be it. For the greater good and for those you love, you must protect them no matter what.

ACTION: Intercept - Each night, you may select one player. If that player is targeted by a standard killing action, you will die in their place.

[Priority: High]
This action will be among one of the first ones to occur during the night phase.

VICTORY CONDITION: Eliminate all RED TEAM players before they outnumber you and take over the game.

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Kirby321
05/28/23 3:09:15 PM
#84:


Night 3 has now begun. Please send in night actions no later than Monday (tomorrow), 6 PM EDT.

Player List
1. changmas (Zelda)
2. SirChris (Hero)
3. Cody11533 (Rosalina & Luma)
4. Corrik7 (Samus)
5. Crescent-Moon (Ike)
6. MZero (Joker)
7. Obellisk (Sora)
8. Masterplum (Daisy)
9. Sheep007 (Lucario)
10. UltimaterializerX (Peach)
11. wallmasterz (Mario)

KO'd
LD1 - UnderUrMattress (Donkey Kong) - BLUE TEAM Tracker
KN1 - PeaceFrog (Kirby) - BLUE TEAM 1-Shot Gunsmith
LD2 - RuneterranSnap (Little Mac) - RED TEAM Godfather (Used: 1x Role Cop)
KN2 - ctesjbuvf (Jigglypuff) - BLUE TEAM Cop
KN2 - htaeD (Min Min) - BLUE TEAM Slow Doctor
LD3 - Lea (Lucina) - BLUE TEAM Bodyguard

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Kirby321
05/29/23 6:49:58 PM
#85:


My apologies. Some stuff came up suddenly and I did not send out night action results on time. The start of day today will be a bit delayed.

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Kirby321
05/29/23 7:17:47 PM
#86:


Jump, punch, kick. Basic maneuvers, but ones that suit this veteran fighter well. Theyve been through melees and brawls, and theyve proven themselves a reliable and consistent fighter. A massively renowned figure, challengers simply cant help but line themselves up, ready to take on such a famous fighter and seize the glory for themselves.

Challenger after challenger, you persevere. Its hard to beat your determination and force of will. Even when youre getting beat senseless, you just keep getting back up. You just dont know when to quit.

And that will be the death of you. There arent any 1-UPs in this world.

Player 17 defeated!

wallmasterz has been KOd!

You are Mario, Mr. Video Game Himself, BLUE TEAM 1-Shot Empowerer.

Plumber by trade and hero of the Mushroom Kingdom, youre a superstar gentleman who is always out to save the day. A man of multiple talents, youre a well-rounded guy. From carpentry to teaching, youve held many different occupations, though somehow youve never been a taxi driver. Ready to save the day once again, you enter the fields of battle.

If your adventures have ever taught you any important lesson, its to never leave home without a Super Mushroom. Youve already been powered up, so maybe you could spare one for someone else.

ACTION: 1-Shot Power Up - Once per game, you may select a player during the night phase. You will give this player a Super Mushroom, making them Unstoppable for that night only. If that player uses an action on that same night, their action will be guaranteed to happen on its intended target, no matter what. This power does not allow standard killing actions to bypass protection.

[Priority: High]
This action will be among one of the first ones to occur during the night phase.

VICTORY CONDITION: Eliminate all RED TEAM players before they outnumber you and take over the game.

Player List
1. changmas (Zelda)
2. SirChris (Hero)
3. Cody11533 (Rosalina & Luma)
4. Corrik7 (Samus)
5. Crescent-Moon (Ike)
6. MZero (Joker)
7. Obellisk (Sora)
8. EDumey (Daisy)
9. Sheep007 (Lucario)
10. UltimaterializerX (Peach)

KO'd
LD1 - UnderUrMattress (Donkey Kong) - BLUE TEAM Tracker
KN1 - PeaceFrog (Kirby) - BLUE TEAM 1-Shot Gunsmith
LD2 - RuneterranSnap (Little Mac) - RED TEAM Godfather (Used: 1x Role Cop)
KN2 - ctesjbuvf (Jigglypuff) - BLUE TEAM Cop
KN2 - htaeD (Min Min) - BLUE TEAM Slow Doctor
LD3 - Lea (Lucina) - BLUE TEAM Bodyguard
KN3 - wallmasterz (Mario) - BLUE TEAM 1-Shot Empowerer

With 10 players, it takes 6 votes to lynch. Day ends on Wednesday at 7 PM EDT, approximately 48 hours from now.

Additionally, EDumey has replaced masterplum. Please do not discuss the reasons for this replacement.

Day 4 has now begun. My sincerest apologies for the delayed start.

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SirChris
05/29/23 7:36:23 PM
#87:


Over night I thought wall was scum because of their constant soft defense of joyrock d2

Well now I have no idea what scum were doing day 2.

Time to read more I guess

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SirChris
05/29/23 7:44:55 PM
#88:


Anyway today could be mylo so we should mass claim.

Trying to think over why wallz would be killed

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EDumey
05/29/23 7:45:36 PM
#89:


Hello friends. This is an awkward game situation. I kept up with D1 as it was happening, read most of D2 but was turned off a bit by how the game was going, then only skimmed D3 once I was asked to replace.

Before I knew who I was replacing, I was going to come in suspecting Plum because of his splinter vote D1 and getting so focused on Lea. But I obviously had my finger wrong there, because I now know 100% Plum was town. >_>

I know Plum was already claimed, so I'm just going to reiterate the actions he took before I joined.
N1: Watched Wallz. Saw Lea.
N2: Watched Chris. Saw no one.
N3: Watched Corrik. Roleblocked.

I need to reread D3 more completely to see what Plum was thinking. I remember Plum suspecting Cody D1, and Lea suspecting/voting Cody D3, so that may be a direction.

Can someone give me a good PoE list with levels of confidence on "confirmed town"?

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SirChris
05/29/23 7:47:03 PM
#90:


There aren't really any confirmed town game is pretty sloppy

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SirChris
05/29/23 7:49:34 PM
#91:


For Cody to be scum we have to answer why he would bus joyrock day 2. Also joyrock seemed confused by Cody's backup role genuinely to me.

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EDumey
05/29/23 8:02:04 PM
#92:


Joyrock was barely present IIRC. Cody was the earliest standing vote on Marth D1. Sat on it and didn't have a reason to ever move it. Cody voted Joyrock with an hour and a half left in the day.

If we were to imagine a situation where Cody, a newer player, was coached on the scum board that it was okay to bus Joyrock at that point, then that time frame makes sense. Maybe a scum partner like Corrik who thought you (Chris) presented as confirmed town at that point and knew the lynch was going Joyrock's way at that point?

When was the interaction where Joyrock showed confusion with Cody's claim?

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SirChris
05/29/23 8:03:12 PM
#93:


EDumey posted...
Joyrock was barely present IIRC. Cody was the earliest standing vote on Marth D1. Sat on it and didn't have a reason to ever move it. Cody voted Joyrock with an hour and a half left in the day.

If we were to imagine a situation where Cody, a newer player, was coached on the scum board that it was okay to bus Joyrock at that point, then that time frame makes sense. Maybe a scum partner like Corrik who thought you (Chris) presented as confirmed town at that point and knew the lynch was going Joyrock's way at that point?

When was the interaction where Joyrock showed confusion with Cody's claim?

Sometime during day 2. Probably wise for you to read things in context if possible.

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MZero
05/29/23 8:15:14 PM
#94:


You might actually be better off fakeclaiming if you're bodyguard at this point

also I have received a Goldeen

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SirChris
05/29/23 8:16:21 PM
#95:


MZero posted...
You might actually be better off fakeclaiming if you're bodyguard at this point

also I have received a Goldeen

What did you name it

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MZero
05/29/23 8:17:22 PM
#96:


Starscream

Also did Cody explain why he named his Chris? Because I wasn't told where it came from

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EDumey
05/29/23 8:18:25 PM
#97:


SirChris posted...
Sometime during day 2. Probably wise for you to read things in context if possible.

There's a lot I probably need to reread with context. Can I ask you to more directly comment on the option that Cody was coached to bus Joyrock with only an hour and a half left in the day? Just want you to acknowledge that part and not skip past it.

Separately, I reread Plum's posts for D3 and it's a little difficult because he was so dead set on Lea being scum that it colored a lot of his other views on things. Something that did stand out separately was his dislike of SBell. I think SBell probably gets a little bit of trust because of being on Joyrock D1, but then he shot Death and Plum's dislike of SBell came from an idea that SBell was making weird justifications for why he thought about shooting Plum before? This post in particular: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80456976/973748673 with Lea flipping town stood out to me as maybe SBell argued from a place where he knew Lea was town?

Also just to take a random shot at Corrik lol:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80456976/973740001

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SirChris
05/29/23 8:25:08 PM
#98:


What was the thing that made Cody feel coached?

I am also not worried because Cody has a fish that will eat him eventually seeing as none of my fish people are dead.


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SirChris
05/29/23 8:32:25 PM
#99:


Anyway i trust dumey because plum has been acting like town plum all game and also I don't think he outs as tracker d2 to hard push Lea as scum.

So I guess I start there

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EDumey
05/29/23 8:33:47 PM
#100:


This is a series of posts spanning only 9 minutes starting Post 5.263

RuneterranSnap posted...
So why wait? Are you expecting to get a better role?

RuneterranSnap posted...
##unvote
##vote: Cody

RuneterranSnap posted...
What does it mean that you don't get the full power?

RuneterranSnap posted...
##unvote
##vote: Red

makessome sense if it's one use I guess. Not what I would've done but that isn't a mark against you.

So one of the only couple of times Joyrock was live posting for ten minutes in topic, where he tested Cody's claim then immediately went back to his previous vote.

I dunno, I feel like using Joyrock's alignment as a defense of Cody is a really weak defense. Obviously we should make case for why Cody is scum, and not for why Cody can or can't be town. I just think if you're ruling Cody out based on Joyrock, then I'm not sure I buy that.

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