Board 8 > Video Game Console Mafia Topic 5 - Running on Batteries

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Hello, we're not killing Sultan.

Stop trying to do weird things with the day just because you are bored.

When would you kill him then?

Sultan has had two days to do something and he hasn't delivered

Also its a bit disingenuous to say that mzero is just acting on boredom.
(Even scum would have better motivations)

new theory: Sultan is the ninja strongman

claimed vengeful to scare us off so they could kill red. Lea was also scum so when Chris came in he vetoed the lynch for the same reason.

thank me later

Ive actually got an idea for today but Im waiting for Dumey to give some feedback in our neighbor chat before floating the idea here.

Circumstantial data

Besides if Sultan is town, I die anyway.
If he is scum, we kill scum.

htaeD posted...

Circumstantial data

Besides if Sultan is town, I die anyway.
If he is scum, we kill scum.

Exactly. The only way we don't get scum is if you're both town.

We didn't have a NK last night so we have the leeway to test Sultan. Now is the time!

SirChris posted...

Hello, we're not killing Sultan.

Stop trying to do weird things with the day just because you are bored.

This is why you end the days when you are supposed to.

Ive had a little bit of a change of heart on Sultan, and Id prefer not to see him lynched quite yet

htaeD posted...

I bodyguarded Red night1 and tried to guard Peaf night2. Thats it.

Dude literally claims to have gone to the nightkill both times. It's literally ridiculous this isn't ended yet

wallmasterz posted...

Ive had a little bit of a change of heart on Sultan, and Id prefer not to see him lynched quite yet

Sultan is 100% town. The Lopen stuff should have made it obvious.

But since Sultan is a topic now, I might as well just focus on my notes for the Sultan train that happened day1.

Lopen seemed to want to ignore Ulti's anti Sultan stance and tried to get him to vote me instead at first. He could not ignore Ulti for long of course and stated that he did find Sultans post odd.
This could be the catalyst for Sultan lashing out at Lopen and voting him. I dont know what to make of that yet, could be Sultan trying to distance himself from Lopen. But Sultan only made himself look worse with that. He tried to backpedal by saying he did it for reactions, but that I still find difficult to believe.
The thing thats making me less convinced of Sultan being scum is that Lopen did seem tempted to join Ulti on Sultan for a while and then he even did vote Sultan while badgering Sultan and also denying Reds defenses of Sultan.
Unlike the first time Lopen sounded like he would favor a quick(quicker than the norm) hammer of Sultan.

Corrik7 posted...

Dude literally claims to have gone to the nightkill both times. It's literally ridiculous this isn't ended yet

Again, I am just that good as a bodyguard

I expect indifference from Chris due to his obligations Corrik, but you have no excuse.

Corrik7 posted...

This is why you end the days when you are supposed to.

Too bad you cant shut me up!

htaeD posted...

Too bad you cant shut me up!

I just play with people who enjoy being able to sit here and have the ability to post but don't actually do anything with it. This game has been wrapped up days ago. It's so obvious. Everyone literally has to be town that is town.

Ulti has to be town
Sultan has to be town
Marth has to be town
Wallz has to be town
Edumey has to be town
Peaf has to be town

Mzero is probably town

Death is scum
Chris is scum
Ctes is scum

Like Jesus. End this.

Oh well nevermind, Lopen outright says he knows how scumSultan acts when caught (angrier) so he could have coached Sultan to react more subdued
He keeps that doubt with him until he switches to vote me later in topic2

Corrik7 posted...

I just play with people who enjoy being able to sit here and have the ability to post but don't actually do anything with it. This game has been wrapped up days ago. It's so obvious. Everyone literally has to be town that is town.

Ulti has to be town
Sultan has to be town
Marth has to be town
Wallz has to be town
Edumey has to be town
Peaf has to be town

Mzero is probably town

Death is scum
Chris is scum
Ctes is scum

Like Jesus. End this.

Man are you gonna in for a shock when I flip town

htaeD posted...

When would you kill him then?

Uh, never? He is a polarized player who it took me about 5 minutes of checking to realize he is in his town meta with how he approaches things.

Maybe it's because I have wolved with him twice recently but he isn't that great at hiding as a wolf if you know what to look for.

I like this version of Corrik. Streamlined. No mess no fuss. Just repeating things over and over. Establish dominance. Nice tbh.

Too bad this version of Corrik is wrong.

And granted I cant deny that Sultan could just be actually town instead of informed about his town tells.
But I cant use your read on Sultan for myself unfortunately

I will ask him one thing.
When I flip town BG, who are you gonna look into next?

Hm, in the most recent game we both played here, Sultan was scum partially guided by Chris, and I was one of very few people if not like the only one that actually suspected him (because of my lack of history with Chris, Chris insisted).

Certainly the past would not repeat itself

Ctes said this btw

MZero posted...

Sultan has had two days to do something and he hasn't delivered

In the only onw who thought. Lopen was scum yall called me crazy and I was right.

Also I dared scum to shot me and declared my gun was pointed at you both days and they didn't shoot me to get 2 kills if you're town soo I'm pretty sure you're scum trying to mislynch me.

Also lopen was so quick to defend you. I have pause on Death and maybe for good reason. Dumey claimed doctor and immediately took It back. Dumey is probably doc trying to be clever.

##Vote:Mzero

thisis the logical alternative for today

The problem there is, its a scan that would take at least 2 lynches to resolve... maybe 3

That said I suppose Mzero can at least prove his power by sametiming his results with Edumey if Wallz dies first..
Though thats a scenario that shouldn't happen anyway.

Wait I thought your vote for Lopen was just to bait reactions, Sultan?

(also for some reason your Lopenvote doesnt show up in the final day1 votals)

Wait nvm, you never unvoted so your vote on Lopen never stuck

MZero posted...

new theory: Sultan is the ninja strongman

Lol what?

Yeah no one was following me onto my gut feeling so I get thst looks kind bad but I was instant in Lopen being scum even after my reaction test go back and look

I will in a bit
I dont want to derail from my ctrl+f Lopen track

htaeD posted...

I will in a bit
I dont want to derail from my ctrl+f Lopen track

Fair you should see some of it in that anyways lopen and I had alot of back and forth on it

Oh shit. I think theres a chance Ive been reading the game all wrong.

Death might actually be town. Very probably scum. But I think there might be a way to resolve it without risking the potential mislynch, too.

Not going to elaborate yet I need to mull this over. But dont end day.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well this didn't work the way I intended but....

Okay well I was reaction hunting.

Huge town points for Walls and Dumey on their reactions was hoping I'd get more reactions but I feel holding off anymore would look bad.

Anyway yes I dont have any actual proof Lopen is Scum and that bad reasoning was for reactions only

I do have a funny gut feeling Lopen is scum but I'm not great at reading lopen

Also i never unvoted( not sure if that is a rule in this particular game or not) lol

Sultan's read list:
Lopen - funny gut feeling he's scum (wants to bus but doesn't have a good argument)
wall and dumey for their reactions

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Ulti isn't fully reading again I see.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
##vote:Lopen

lopen is really trying to be opportunistic while trying to help red gain his power. It's a free lynch for scum if we rush it the way he wants us to

Yeah this is not my favorite progression of posts

This for EDumey

wallmasterz posted...

Sultan - help me understand your change of heart from posts 31, 33, 36 (you were all for lynching anyone) to now, since youre apparently worried about rushing a lynch being a free lynch for scum

This post from walls.

These reaction definitely come from a town mindset to me

The wallz post is fair enough, but he's town reading Dumey off a very mild reaction. "This isn't my favorite" doesn't have a lot of bite to it

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Yeah totally read that wrong

Oh well kill me now

vote:Sultan

these are not the words of a town vengeful

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Interesting Walls is still pushing me to be lynched. Seems like he knows I'm town and maybe he know I'm pointing it wrong too. Hmmm

flips on wallz because omgus

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I picked Mzero beacuse he has seemed way more comical than I've ever seen him and it just doesn't seem town Mzero to me I also chose earlier. I can change who I point it at btw. Just has to be in before I get killed.

I wanted shock factor so maybe I was being a bit selfish

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I'd probably be okay with Death Mzero Lopen in thar order.

Lopen is just a gut feeling I need to shake I think

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Might be weak but rereading his reaction to Reds full claim I see where everyone is coming from

His top three reads are
death - I agree with everyone else
MZero - too funny
Lopen - gut

Day 2

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well thats interesting

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Yeah that seems roll fishy and if it is we don't want scum to know

Sultan calls my claim "interesting" then calls out peaf for asking if it's multiple use. Thought you were reading me scum? lol

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Question for Chris.

I'm not finished catching up but if Dumeys neighborizer is a day action how would he not be able to target a hider that is a night action. If day to unhide to join the towns people in the hunt for scum?

Youre not still hiding during day. So like if I was a day vig and shot Ulti. Would I then also kill Lopen in this senerio?? Or is my logic completely off here

has a day shot and says "if i was a day vig"

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Yeah idk just like seems so fishy. Only mentions Mzero not death or the killer if he saw 3 people.

If you're town dude why not just lay it all on the table it's so fishy..

doesn't seem like Sultan read the claim, considering death was the first person mentioned. Also suddenly my claim is easy to fake when he didn't say that at the start of day

so basically, all of Sultan's scum reads fall under OMGUS, gut, or agreeing with everyone else.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

In the only onw who thought. Lopen was scum yall called me crazy and I was right.

it's easy to know who scum is when you're on the same team!

you couldn't even explain why he was scum, you just had a "funny feeling". The funny feeling of seeing his name on your scumboard, I imagine.

Reading a different ISO is even more outside my focus
Will have to get to that in a bit as well Mzero.

Also Wallz I dont know what you are planning but you have my (divided) attention

MZero posted...

Day 2

Sultan calls my claim "interesting" then calls out peaf for asking if it's multiple use. Thought you were reading me scum? lol

has a day shot and says "if i was a day vig"

doesn't seem like Sultan read the claim, considering death was the first person mentioned. Also suddenly my claim is easy to fake when he didn't say that at the start of day

so basically, all of Sultan's scum reads fall under OMGUS, gut, or agreeing with everyone else.

Doesn't this sound familiar to the shit lopen was trying to day about me.

Funny isn't it you're using his argument when I caught him.

It's funny you don't know me by now MZero. That is another thing why I think you're scum. Like I'm pretty sure I've nailed these reads before and I'm pretty sure it was lopen I nailed like this in a different game as well

Also as i must mention I'm every game. If Chris is at lylo he must die

Oh I am just arriving at the part where you explained your vote on Lopen (which I also asked about at the time) and it was just a feeling as you said.
Not that useful as far as readability goes tho, but at least its not a contradiction.

Hi I'm caught up and my opinion hasn't changed about death's alignment, or my desire to end day early. Please execute this man promptly, thank you.

Lopen posted...

Mattress / Sultan looks very paired here

Sultan
Mattress
Death
Dumey

I'm thinking probably this at the moment. Mzero's attitude regarding his lynch going through feels townish to me. Just the right amount of enthusiasm.

Lopen posted...

I would rather vote mattress than dumey at the moment I think

But I'd rather vote Death than either

Interesting progression for Lopen here
Then he used his doubts about Sultan and my supposed slowness in reacting to that as a sign of me being scum and unvoted Sultan to vote me instead.
Maybe others can make more out of this, but It does make me a little concerned about Mzero.
Though moreso indirectly

UnderUrMattress posted...

Hi I'm caught up and my opinion hasn't changed about death's alignment, or my desire to end day early. Please execute this man promptly, thank you.

Same question to you
I will flip townBG
What does this fact change for you?

Btw whowever it was that said Lopen was misrepresenting me deserves your ears in the following days

Not a fan of how much Marth was building up towards sheeping Lopen day1

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Funny isn't it you're using his argument when I caught him.

you didn't catch him, Dumey did. You said "I have a weird feeling about Lopen but I'm not good at reading him". and now you're beating your chest like you knew all along