Board 8 > Video Game Console Mafia Topic 5 - Running on Batteries

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Player List

1) Peace___Frog
2) UltimaterializerX
3) htaeD
4) MZero
5) Corrik7
6) wallmasterz
7) ctesjbuvf
8) Obellisk
9) EDumey
10) TheSultanOfSlam
11) SirChris
12) Lopen
13) UnderUrMattress

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends at 7PM EST on Friday, ~31.3 hours from now.

[5] Lopen - Dumey, Ulti, (Marth), Peaf, Sultan, Corrik
[2] Death - Wallz, (Peaf), Chris
[1] Dumey - Lopen
[0] Chris - (Ulti)
[0] Marth - (Peaf), (Lopen)

When someone is roleblocked, are they still seen as visiting their intended target, and its just the action that fails?

I find it a bit hard to believe there are no scum om this Lopen lynch. But we can look at that tomorrow. If Lopen has just disappeared completely then I guess there's no point in running for 48 hours even though it would fit my weekend plans nicely.

wallmasterz posted...

I dont mean this rudely sultan but what would that possibly matter in mafia? Its mafia I dont trust a single one of you =)

So youre only hiding there identity cuz you think they are doc okay..

wallmasterz posted...

When someone is roleblocked, are they still seen as visiting their intended target, and its just the action that fails?

No. They are stopped from leaving their house

wallmasterz posted...

When someone is roleblocked, are they still seen as visiting their intended target, and its just the action that fails?

They should not be.

Oh.

wallmasterz posted...

Oh.

Are you saying what I think you're saying?

No, doesnt pertain to peaf if thats what youre thinking.

Most likely was

I am still reading but this is just kinda frustrating if Dumey is town and if he's scum well just lynch him tomorrow and go from there.

If we are both town sbell is almost certainly scum because I am the "miller" in the setup.

Beyond that probably
Death or Hollywood Hogan
Sultan
Corrik

ctesjbuvf posted...

I find it a bit hard to believe there are no scum om this Lopen lynch. But we can look at that tomorrow. If Lopen has just disappeared completely then I guess there's no point in running for 48 hours even though it would fit my weekend plans nicely.

At risk of perjuring myself here, why would you explore that idea and do nothing with the bct votals?

That's if we are both town

If he is scum then it's like

Dumey
Chris
Ctes
Death or Hollywood Hogan

... who?

The third man.

I mean I like Mzero as much as the next guy. But he seems to be liked by almost everyone now

Lopen calling death Hollywood Hogan? .

Also lopen why didn't you murder my claim yesterday with your role?

Isn't the possibility of 3 kills in 1 night if scum were to choose me I shot wrong and shot who you hid behind a bit much?

That was typed weird
But why do you think our roles would coexist? And didn't keep pushing my lynch

Im going somewhere with this. Can scum nk scum?

wallmasterz posted...

Im going somewhere with this. Can scum nk scum?

Yes but why would they, especially on n1?

I'm not sure where you're going

I think our roles can coexist.

If you were a pure vig I would have jumped on you. Two conditional kills its a bit more dicey

Lopen posted...

I think our roles can coexist.

If you were a pure vig I would have jumped on you. Two conditional kills its a bit more dicey

I mean the chance is super small chance those cards would align. I just know if I did that it happen then everyone would jump down my throat for that being a possibility in a set up cuz the small chances seem to happen on my games lol

Wall you have me curious here

wallmasterz posted...

Im going somewhere with this. Can scum nk scum?

Why? This is a weirdish question.

Yeah, sorry - you can mostly ignore what I asked about scum killing scum. I am trying to come up with a night action scenario that will help us validate as many claims as possible and I was wondering if scum could ever choose to kill a member of their team instead of go along with something that could expose multiple scum. It was a stupid question because a single scum would just not do the action, claim roleblocked, etc.

Peace___Frog posted...

At risk of perjuring myself here, why would you explore that idea and do nothing with the bct votals?

It's not a bad place to look either, but nothing immediately jumped out to me. There's more info in it with more people confirmed I think. I was surprised at how fast it went, I don't think we were many (I recall you, me and red, sorry to whoever) that had voiced actual suspicion, so yeah.

Now Lopen has a much better case on him than BCT did. It's something I could see scum want to be right about. I'm not sure you can use the BCT train to look at who isn't there in the same sense because it went by so fast.

Can a watcher watch themselves? Hypothetically speaking of course

No

wallmasterz posted...

Can a watcher watch themselves? Hypothetically speaking of course

Usually no that be a question for the host. You gonna put up a mirror and watch yourself with Binoculars lol

Ironic how Red would have been more succesful if he saved his claim for today

Hey Corrik why were you so against red hammering?

After red half-claimed, the two names lopen threw out to do a speedrun on were Sultan and corrik. If lopen is scum, i would expect zero to one of them to be scun as well but definitely not both. Dumey asked about this (t1.061) and i ignored him then because i had no opinion on it at that time. I still think it's generally NAI from lopen except that it is unlikely that all three players (lopen, Sultan, Corrik) are scum.

It's a good point. Lopen put SBell, Corrik and BCT up as special possibilities, then Death, Dumey, Sultan and Marth as suspects. Might be worth looking those groups as well if he flips scum.

And by the way, this is the disingenuous post i had in mind (2.221):

Lopen posted...

I expect town Death to be pushing for something right now or at least voting.

No follow-up that I can see on his mulling over Sultan to me is a red flag. Feels like lipservice.

Death notoriously holds his vote close to his chest as either alignment. I've come to learn that it's nai. What you have to pay attention to with death is what he says and how he says it. The timing and count of his votes are rarely relevant.

This makes death... look... better??? Somewhat. But lopen is talented enough to throw shade all over the place if he wants to.

Yeah thats odd. There was another instance where he mischaracterized me I believe which I commented on.

I came up with a pretty elaborate idea to validate as many claims as possible but having a roleblocker in the way ruins it for now.

ctesjbuvf posted...

It's a good point. Lopen put SBell, Corrik and BCT up as special possibilities, then Death, Dumey, Sultan and Marth as suspects. Might be worth looking those groups as well if he flips scum.

I think someone else brought up earlier that if Lopen Rule of Three'd that post, Death was the likely one to standout. I think I agree with that assessment. I haven't hard cleared Sultan yet but I have a town lead on him, and with the scan on Marth, it's a very suspicious list to look at from my perspective.

Hi

Is there any real possibility scum doesnt have a roleblocker, or its a one time use?

In most cases no

Well I'm guessing whoever is scum that led the kill on red is a strongman. Probably 1x use? So basically they're a goon now. I didn't visit red so death isn't quite scum claimed for me yet. So I guess we just own Lopen?

wallmasterz posted...

Is there any real possibility scum doesnt have a roleblocker, or its a one time use?

Peaf claimed rbed, and I don't think that any town claimed a block on him.

wallmasterz posted...

Is there any real possibility scum doesnt have a roleblocker, or its a one time use?

Possibility? Yes. Likely? Probably not.
It could be part of a scum jack power list so they may not roleblock every night or something like that. But scum almost will always have some way to play around town power roles, and Roleblock is a very standard way of doing so.
If Peaf were scum, that would pretty much confirm that scum has no RB and he used that as a cover, but until he flips or we get a RB result from someone else, then we don't know.

Corrik7 looks better

I still think ctes is town here

Dumey could neighborize me. Thats the only claim I think we can really validate before the roleblocker is dead.

Or me uwuowo

@wallmasterz

Are you able to self watch?

I know what I'm doing for my neighbor. I think it's a fairly obvious choice, but I'd prefer to not talk about it too much just to not give scum too much info.