Board 8 > Video Game Console Mafia Topic 5 - Running on Batteries

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Peace___Frog posted...

... at risk of parroting Dumey, I'm not sure i buy it

If you're talking about me, wallz can confirm it and I'm already green checked anyways so let's go

This is unironically my third doc rand on this site in a row

Marth, youre seriously claiming to be doc?

In that case, who did you target last night? So that town can have the dual info of you and me out on the table. There are now two people that scum could have shot at for us to have no kill on n2. You were going to drop that claim, end day, and just expect to live another day?

I honestly didn't think a doctor existed.

I have no idea what your definition is of green checked but you're definitely not it

Well y'all were supposed to just speed vote and let me take the bullet for real doc but so much for that

I think if scum knew the real doc they wouldve died. I also think the doc doesnt care that much if they get outed, Who ever they may be

Lol

wallmasterz posted...

I think if scum knew the real doc they wouldve died. I also think the doc doesnt care that much if they get outed, Who ever they may be

Yeah, obviously they don't know doc because they saved. And unless I'm the save, they wouldn't have known I wasn't the doc. I was sort of hoping you would play along with me, but it's fine.

Peace___Frog posted...

Lol

Is this about my post or your biggest scum reads recent behavior

Peace___Frog posted...

... he did. He subbed in for hb and lived one extra day.

No wonder I forgot Peaf, I was Mishima. I died before ctes was done writing the opening post.

Marth did you visit peaf?

If you did then Deaths BG wasn't needed and uhhhh we might wanna slow down.

I don't visit

wallmasterz posted...

Is this about my post or your biggest scum reads recent behavior

The behavior

wallmasterz posted...

No wonder I forgot Peaf, I was Mishima. I died before ctes was done writing the opening post.

Yeah, it was after you and I both died. I can understand you not remembering him being there.

Though I'm not sure if i would call him my biggest scum read. I would lynch ctes, Death, and maybe even chris before lynching marth.

In case scum has a way of getting me killed tonight, assuming that's their aim again, that would be my suggested order.

Has Ulti checked in yet today? I'm not proposing that we keep the day going for the full 48 hours but 6-12 is fine as long as everyone has a chance to talk a bit.

Just hammer. What are you waiting on

UnderUrMattress posted...

I don't visit

Protect doctor you know what I mean geez

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Protect doctor you know what I mean geez

Wallz already outed my hand when he asked if I was really doc but it is okay. I'm just getting overly giddy for winning the game with style points.

UnderUrMattress posted...

Wallz already outed my hand when he asked if I was really doc but it is okay. I'm just getting overly giddy for winning the game with style points.

Ohhh okay thst makes sese.
Unless the doc also visited peaf if there is one okay death probably just scum.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Ohhh okay thst makes sese.
Unless the doc also visited peaf if there is one okay death probably just scum.

I asked this once and I'll ask again, is it common to see both a bg and a doc in the same setup here? On my homesite, they would almost certainly be ccs in a non role madness setting, but I know that things are a bit different here.

UnderUrMattress posted...

I asked this once and I'll ask again, is it common to see both a bg and a doc in the same setup here? On my homesite, they would almost certainly be ccs in a non role madness setting, but I know that things are a bit different here.

I mean I have seen it before.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I mean I have seen it before.

How common is it?

In a game this size

UnderUrMattress posted...

I asked this once and I'll ask again, is it common to see both a bg and a doc in the same setup here? On my homesite, they would almost certainly be ccs in a non role madness setting, but I know that things are a bit different here.

very common

Sultan is still scum btw never forget

I feel like it's common enough that people don't automatically scream "too much protection" if it happens. BG can only save ONCE. So for a game to only have a BG, you would assume scum doesn't need extra powers to bypass protection. Them almost assuredly having a strongman to even attempt to shoot the powered up cop claim N1 means they have tools to deal with more than just a BG.

This is all meta at your own risk territory, but I would be incredibly surprised if Death was telling the truth and there was no other protection in the game.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Ohhh okay thst makes sese.
Unless the doc also visited peaf if there is one okay death probably just scum.

Nobody could visit me last night. The only ways to prevent my Commuter action are roleblock or strongman. I am alive and death was told i was Untargetable so I'm assuming neither one happened.

I would not be surprised if Death is telling the truth, if there is no doctor. Commuter is a sort of Protection.

Peace___Frog posted...

Nobody could visit me last night. The only ways to prevent my Commuter action are roleblock or strongman. I am alive and death was told i was Untargetable so I'm assuming neither one happened.

I would not be surprised if Death is telling the truth, if there is no doctor. Commuter is a sort of Protection.

Death is telling the truth. He went to you. Unfortunately, he was the scum night kill so it was blocked.

I still think that death is mafia but he's not outed scum if there's a commuter in play.

Corrik7 posted...

Death is telling the truth. He went to you. Unfortunately, he was the scum night kill so it was blocked.

Yeah this is the right answer here. I'm over thinking too much again.

Peaf how do you feel about a mass claim or no

I'd prefer to keep my last card close to my chest for tonight if only on the chance that i can screw up scum again.

Especially since a mass right now gives town nothing and scum everything. We already have death dead to rights.

Lithium-ion Votals
[4] Death - Dumey, (Chris), Sbell, (Marth), Corrik, Ctes

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends at 7PM EST Sunday, in ~43 hours.

Lol just deleted like 2 paragraphs because it sounded stupid. Regardless of who doc saved, Death probably directly targeted you and just saved face by claiming bg on their unsuccessful kill.

I do think Ctes' vote looks kinda bad considering his D1/D2 vote records like Peaf showed. Not sure how much leniency to give drunk posting.

Don't want to let Death off though, I feel like resolving Wallz' successful watch on Red is important.

The only thing that give me pause is the idea that Death knew Peaf was untargettable. If it was just a night kill that failed, wouldn't they just assume that there was a doctor save on Peaf because he was claimed power?

The easiest answer is that they did something like shoot Wallz believing he had other powers outside of a one-time watch, doctor saved Wallz for the same reason, and scum uses some scan or investigative power on Peaf and get the unsuccessful result. Maybe even Death himself if him being a Jack like someone else said before would make sense, so he could safely claim it in case there was a watch/track on him.

EDumey posted...

I do think Ctes' vote looks kinda bad considering his D1/D2 vote records like Peaf showed. Not sure how much leniency to give drunk posting.

Don't want to let Death off though, I feel like resolving Wallz' successful watch on Red is important.

The only thing that give me pause is the idea that Death knew Peaf was untargettable. If it was just a night kill that failed, wouldn't they just assume that there was a doctor save on Peaf because he was claimed power?

The easiest answer is that they did something like shoot Wallz believing he had other powers outside of a one-time watch, doctor saved Wallz for the same reason, and scum uses some scan or investigative power on Peaf and get the unsuccessful result. Maybe even Death himself if him being a Jack like someone else said before would make sense, so he could safely claim it in case there was a watch/track on him.

yeah i had like 2 paragraphs about this, which is KIND OF why i wanted to massclaim since we could potentially lose info if mafia aimbot doc but... i'm not sure if doc even saved. we have no way to know, really.

but i also can't see mafia!death doctor!whoever and commuter!peaf all going on peaf

but whatever if doc saved someone it's probably someone that was universally townread

We can hold off on any mass claim at the moment Marth. It's very likely every single unclaimed person just claims Vanilla at this point, so while we have a clear direction to go in, it's not necessary. Soon though, we probably will.

EDumey posted...

The only thing that give me pause is the idea that Death knew Peaf was untargettable. If it was just a night kill that failed, wouldn't they just assume that there was a doctor save on Peaf because he was claimed power?

I don't know why any doctor would protect me last night. They should reevaluate their life choices if they even considered that.

But you raise a good point. They either targeted me with a roleblock on n1 or my target was, like lopen, Untargetable.
I really don't think that would be the case because that would mean that 3/15 players could be untargetable except by roleblock and strongman on any given night. That sounds so absurd.
I've considered saying who i targeted just in case i die tonight, but i think it could give a clue as to what my other ability is. I'd like to avoid that for a while longer, if it pleases the court.

EDumey posted...

Not sure how much leniency to give drunk posting.

What is this in reference to?

Peace___Frog posted...

What is this in reference to?

5.225-226
ctesjbuvf posted...

Oh hey day started but I am super drunk anz didn't want to have on saturday

ctesjbuvf posted...

##vote: Death

that has still got to be kt

Thanks

Someone (or multiple people) wanting to rush my lynch are scum
Remember that
Looking at you Corrik you lazy jerk and you as well Marth and Ctes

Also anyone saying I am dead to rights is just playing wilfully dumb
(sorry Peaf)

Oh okay Marth what you just did was not that smart since you cant even be sure a real doc exists.
Though I suppose the idea to take a bullet by itself is kind\

UnderUrMattress posted...

I strongly disagree. Death is BEYOND outed. Obviously someone got saved and if Death were responsible for the save, then he would be dead. So the person you watched visit red that you haven't outed is real doc.

Also are you even paying attention?
Peaf (in all likelihood) saved himself. And even if there was a doc as well, nobody can possibly say for certain that I was the one who killed Red.
Its also beyond frustrating that almost everyone gives Mzero a pass.

I don't know why any doctor would protect me last night. They should reevaluate their life choices if they even considered that.

Its not beyond the realm of possibility. Like me, Doc may have thought scum would not bother with the Wallz/Mzero triangle yet and would try to shoot unpredictably at the player whose power nobody knew yet.

And if they did try to kill you then hey I have also been 2 for 2 on their targets so far.
You just had to ruin my glorious sacrifice with your power, bah.

Oh and Corrik
If you are pretending to have some actual reason to want me dead, you should spell it out so you cant backpedal later when I flip town.

htaeD posted...

Oh okay Marth what you just did was not that smart since you cant even be sure a real doc exists.
Though I suppose the idea to take a bullet by itself is kind\

Also are you even paying attention?
Peaf (in all likelihood) saved himself. And even if there was a doc as well, nobody can possibly say for certain that I was the one who killed Red.
Its also beyond frustrating that almost everyone gives Mzero a pass.

I mean there's a reason millers claim right away
claiming after you've been scanned is always going to look worse than claiming before
also I don't think anyone is really giving me a pass anyway