Board 8 > Game of Gen 8 - Nominations

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tazzyboyishere
03/18/23 6:10:09 PM
#1:


Best Gen 8 System?






Read the rules before nominating or I will shit talk you on Discord

RULES
  • You have 20 individual nominations to use toward any 8th generation game.
  • There is currently no set amount of nominations needed to achieve placement in the bracket. Participation will be monitored and I will review the counts on Wednesday to determine what the amount should be set at.
  • There are currently 64 open spots in the bracket. This will not change.
  • As always, computer, arcade, and other types of games which don't specifically fit into generational identification are still eligible. Computer and arcade games released from January 1, 2014 to December 31, 2020 are eligible.
  • Since we're at the point of some games being released on multiple generations of consoles at the same time (Most stuff released recently has not been exclusive to gen 9, for example), games which released simultaneously for generation 8 and generation 9 consoles are not eligible for nomination. There will be another current generation contest following this, so that's where these games can be nominated.
  • As well, Any games which may have been eligible for this bracket, but have already appeared in a prior contest, are not allowed. I don't think anything applies, but just being cautious.
  • Possibly an unpopular rule: Switch is being removed from this generation to be used for the next contest. I can give a thorough explanation if someone really wants one, but it just kinda makes the most sense based on the timing of everything, so allow me to change the canon of real life just a little bit here.
  • No compilations, side versions, or direct ports of prior gen games. All versions of Pokmon Sun and Moon are counting as the same even though Ultra Sun and Moon are technically better. And don't you dare nominate one of those lame-ass "remaster" collections of a bunch of Ubisoft 360 games.
  • Games released exclusively in Japan (or some other non-English country) can be nominated, though they are completely eligible to be nominated for future generations as well, so long as their first worldwide appearance was in that separate generation. This was thrown in just in case people wanted to nominate Ace Attorney two generations ago. I have no idea if anything from this gen fits into this.
  • No nomination changing after a game is locked into the bracket. This one won't come into effect until Wednesday, but I think it's kind of lame that we can take nominations away once they're set. You can still change your other nominations at any point, and you can put a nomination toward anything locked in for the sake of granting a higher seeding, we just can't be removing nominations from "safe" games.
Okay I think that's it. Most was copy and pasted so if you remember the rules from last time it's mostly the same. Nominations have gone mostly well but please don't be afraid to put nominations toward safe games. Helps me with the seeding so I don't have to manually seed and do guesswork. Gen 7 bracket felt like it suffered because half the bracket had the exact same amount of nominations, which led to me not really knowing where to seed things appropriately, so instead of taking accountability I am blaming all of you.

Ongoing Nomination Document I will try to keep relatively updated:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hfwTMlP1lVFj8_XP_8NYcPrWdY7aHHZfNFiDmUcKxQk/edit?usp=sharing

Wiki for eligibility reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_generation_of_video_game_consoles
*except Switch lol*

Popular systems to pull from:
  • PlayStation 4
  • Wii U
  • XBOX One
  • Nintendo 3DS
  • PlayStation Vita
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-hotdogturtle--
03/18/23 6:14:42 PM
#2:


Super Mario Maker (Wii U)

I am explicitly not nominating the game titled "Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS", which is a distinct game and should not be grouped with "Super Mario Maker" despite their similar-sounding names.

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pjbasis
03/18/23 6:16:29 PM
#3:


inFAMOUS: Second Son
Resident Evil: Revelations
Resident Evil: Revelations 2
Resident Evil 2
Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain
Pikmin 3
Super Mario 3D World
Kingdom Hearts 3D


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pjbasis
03/18/23 6:16:53 PM
#4:


Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze

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Paratroopa1
03/18/23 6:19:26 PM
#5:


Boy the Switch really makes the eligibility rules complicated
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Raka_Putra
03/18/23 6:21:07 PM
#6:


I legit forgot about the Wii U.

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-hotdogturtle--
03/18/23 6:22:36 PM
#7:


Amplitude (PS4)

Kirby Triple Deluxe
Kirby Planet Robobot
Team Kirby Clash Deluxe
Pokemon Rumble Blast

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-hotdogturtle--
03/18/23 6:26:47 PM
#8:


(Me casually browsing through my Steam library to see which games released in this timeframe)

Princess Remedy in a World of Hurt
Card City Nights
Hypnospace Outlaw

9/20

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StifledSilence
03/18/23 6:27:26 PM
#9:


Fantasy Life (3DS)
Kid Icarus Uprising (3DS)
Tomodachi Life (3DS)
Animal Crossing New Leaf (3DS)
Pokmon Rumble Blast (3DS)
Pokmon X/Y (3DS)
Miitopia (3DS)
Ever Oasis (3DS)
Kirby Planet Robobot (3DS)
Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (3DS)
Ace Attorney Spirit of Justice (3DS)

Mario Kart 8 (Wii U)
Splatoon (Wii U)
Hyrule Warriors (Wii U)
NES Remix (Wii U)
Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze (Wii U)

Persona 5 (PS4)
Final Fantasy 7 Remake (PS4)
South Park The Fractured But Whole (PS4)
Kingdom Hearts 3 (PS4)

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BetrayedTangy
03/18/23 6:32:22 PM
#10:


A Hat in Time
Bloodborne
Cuphead
Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony
Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Gravity Rush 2
NieR: Automata
Octopath Traveler
Pikmin 3
Resident Evil 7: Biohazard
Splatoon
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy Curtain Call
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2*
VA-11 HALL-A: Cyberpunk Bartending Action
What Remains of Edith Finch
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward

*I'm a little 50/50 on whether this counts or not. I sort of count it alongside Pokemon remakes like HGSS/ORAS

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Paratroopa1
03/18/23 6:33:50 PM
#11:


Carefully having to sidestep around the bizarre fact that some stuff like Outer Wilds is eligible, but something like Baba Is You or Hades is NOT eligible (simultaneously released on Switch)

Outer Wilds
Crypt of the NecroDancer
The Witness
Return of the Obra Dinn
Undertale
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony
Slay the Spire
Darkest Dungeon
Super Mario Maker
CrossCode
Freedom Planet
Bug Fables: The Everlasting Sapling
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Virtue's Last Reward
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Dual Destinies
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice
Night in the Woods
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Mr_Crispy
03/18/23 6:36:43 PM
#12:


Culdcept Revolt
Yakuza 0
Bloodborne
Slay the Spire
Monster Train
Baba is You
Murasaki
Murasaki Tsurugi
ZeroRanger
Chaos;Child

saving the last 10 for later.


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Paratroopa1
03/18/23 6:37:31 PM
#13:


Oh god Monster Train IS eligible. (grumbling) fine

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Xeybozn
03/18/23 6:38:31 PM
#14:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Boy the Switch really makes the eligibility rules complicated

For sure. This would be a lot easier if Switch releases were just subject to the same date restrictions as PC/arcade games.

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-hotdogturtle--
03/18/23 6:44:42 PM
#15:


Paratroopa1 posted...
but something like Baba Is You or Hades is NOT eligible (simultaneously released on Switch)
Oh, that's awkward, I always thought the Switch version of Baba came out later (I also thought that it was on other consoles besides Switch, huh...).

Maybe this would work better if PC+Switch games were subject to same rule as previous contests where they're eligible to be used in either one or the other gen but not both (like how Twilight Princess was eligible for Gamecube, but if it entered that contest then it wouldn't have been allowed in Wii later). That would solve the issue of games like Baba which are more recognized as PC games.

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Paratroopa1
03/18/23 6:46:55 PM
#16:


-hotdogturtle-- posted...
Oh, that's awkward, I always thought the Switch version of Baba came out later (I also thought that it was on other consoles besides Switch, huh...).
Yeah, I had to carefully look up every game I nominated and Baba Is You released on PC and Switch at the same time, surprisingly, which awkwardly makes it not eligible along with its other 2019 peers

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MacArrowny
03/18/23 6:47:03 PM
#17:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Carefully having to sidestep around the bizarre fact that some stuff like Outer Wilds is eligible, but something like Baba Is You or Hades is NOT eligible (simultaneously released on Switch)
Hades came out on PC before Switch

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Paratroopa1
03/18/23 6:48:12 PM
#18:


MacArrowny posted...
Hades came out on PC before Switch
Depends on if early access periods count or not, which the rules failed to mention
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LiquidOshawott
03/18/23 6:49:22 PM
#19:


Honestly banning switch sounds like a good way to not make a contest boring by flooding it with Nintendo so sure I accept

Disco Elysium
Control
Yakuza 0
Persona 5 (Royal)
Dragon Quest XI
Undertale
Dragon Ball Fighterz
God of War
Spider Man
Batman: Arkham Knight
Bloodborne
Doom
Resident Evil 7

maybe I come up with 7 more


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-hotdogturtle--
03/18/23 6:51:03 PM
#20:


I just realized that Baba Is You and Hypnospace Outlaw came out a day apart from each other. What a week.

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KommunistKoala
03/18/23 6:51:50 PM
#21:


Persona 5 Royal
NieR: Automata

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Paratroopa1
03/18/23 6:52:07 PM
#22:


I didn't want to nominate Disco Elysium because of the awkwardness surrounding the fact that The Final Cut is really the definitive GOAT version of the game and it didn't come out until after the eligibility period
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LiquidOshawott
03/18/23 6:53:41 PM
#23:


Slay the Spire (had to check for this)
Uncharted: Lost Legacy

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LiquidOshawott
03/18/23 6:56:43 PM
#24:


Paratroopa1 posted...
I didn't want to nominate Disco Elysium because of the awkwardness surrounding the fact that The Final Cut is really the definitive GOAT version of the game and it didn't come out until after the eligibility period

eh, by this logic a good chunk of Wii U games shouldnt count cause their definitive versions were the switch


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tazzyboyishere
03/18/23 7:02:34 PM
#25:


Okay so the switch rule was to prevent exclusives and BotW not multiplat games, one I get sat down I'll try to get an appropriate rule.

Like PS4/XBONE/Switch games are fine

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Snake5555555555
03/18/23 7:22:32 PM
#26:


  1. Batman: Arkham Knight
  2. Bloodborne
  3. Detention
  4. Doki Doki Literature Club!
  5. Doom Eternal
  6. Dusk
  7. The Evil Within 2
  8. God of War
  9. Hitman 2
  10. The Last of Us Part II
  11. Little Nightmares II
  12. Observer
  13. Outlast II
  14. Red Dead Redemption 2
  15. Resident Evil: Revelations
  16. Resident Evil: Revelations 2
  17. Resident Evil 2
  18. Resident Evil VII: Biohazard
  19. Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
  20. Until Dawn

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mnk
03/18/23 7:26:35 PM
#27:


Fire Emblem: Awakening
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Pokemon X
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call
Fantasy Life
Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon
Stella Glow
Fire Emblem Fates
Dragon Quest VII: Fragments of the Forgotten Past
Pokemon Sun
Bravely Second: End Layer
Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadow of Valentia
Yo-kai Watch 3
Ys VIII: The Lacrymosa of Dana
Kingdom Hearts III
Tales of Berseria
Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age
NEO: The World Ends with You

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Xeybozn
03/18/23 7:26:54 PM
#28:


Puyo Puyo Tetris
Celeste
Sonic Mania
Baba is You

(I'm assuming your upcoming rule change means the Switch releases won't DQ all of these.)

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tazzyboyishere
03/18/23 7:45:55 PM
#29:


RULE CHANGE FROM:

Since we're at the point of some games being released on multiple generations of consoles at the same time (Most stuff released recently has not been exclusive to gen 9, for example), games which released simultaneously for generation 8 and generation 9 consoles are not eligible for nomination. There will be another current generation contest following this, so that's where these games can be nominated.

TO THIS

  • Since we're at the point of some games being released on multiple generations of consoles at the same time (Most stuff released recently has not been exclusive to gen 9, for example), games which released simultaneously for generation 8 and PlayStation 5 and/or XBOX Series X consoles are not eligible for nomination. There will be another current generation contest following this, so that's where these games can be nominated. Games which released simultaneous with the Switch are eligible.

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Paratroopa1
03/18/23 7:50:55 PM
#30:


Baba Is You
Celeste
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UF8
03/18/23 8:00:20 PM
#31:


Rabi-Ribi
Paper Mario: Color Splash
Umineko no Naku Koro ni Saku on PC only???*
Hagane Orchestra (... do mobile games count?)
200% Mixed Juice
GNOSIA
Hypnospace Outlaw
Return of the Obra Dinn
Umineko: Golden Fantasia
Utawarerumono: Prelude to the Fallen
Utawarerumono: Mask of Deception
Utawarerumono: Mask of Truth
Shadowverse
Senko no Ronde 2
Acceleration of SUGURI 2

*(jeez the switch rule makes this one a real mess to determine the valid gen. i'd have liked to pick the console version but that's a crossgen release and also not different enough compared to this one to qualify... I at least think this is safe to nom despite the compilation rule because of its extra arcs??? strictly speaking higurashi hou is also valid (i think? considering the english releases were all split by arc it may not actually count as 1 entry...) but its console version had about 10 more arcs than the pc one so they're not really the same at all, and that was outright on switch before ps4, so...)
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Johnbobb
03/18/23 8:00:53 PM
#32:


tag for later

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-hotdogturtle--
03/18/23 8:03:01 PM
#33:


Baba Is You

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Arti
03/18/23 8:25:46 PM
#35:


13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
428: Shibuya Scramble
AI: The Somnium Files - nirvanA Initiative
Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair
Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth
Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age
Genshin Impact
Ghost of Tsushima
Judgment
NieR: Automata
Persona 5
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice
Steins;Gate
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call
Utawarerumono: Mask of Truth
Yakuza 0
Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward

that's 18, I'll figure out the last two later

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Neocrimson
03/18/23 8:28:19 PM
#36:


Mega Man 11
CrossCode
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
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BSkullX
03/18/23 8:30:10 PM
#37:


Mega Man 11
One Step from Eden
Cuphead
Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon
Gunvolt Chronicles: Luminous Avenger iX

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UF8
03/18/23 8:39:58 PM
#38:


QP Shooting - Dangerous!!
Xmas Shooting - Scramble!!
Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy
RADICAL DREAMERS -Le Tresor Interdit- (i... think this counts for this gen too? i'm not sure if it has an xsx/xss version or not or it being in the chrono cross compilation thing makes it ineligible)
GENSOU Skydrift (i hope crossplatform in the sense of "switch/pc before 2020" is safe. at the very least, it was also on pc before the steam/switch release anyway, just japan-only...)
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firefdr
03/18/23 8:54:05 PM
#39:


Baba Is You
Celeste
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Final Fantasy XV
God of War
Hades
Half-Life: Alyx
Heroes of the Storm
Hollow Knight
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
Kingdom Hearts III
Ori and the Blind Forest
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
South Park: The Fractured but Whole
Super Mario Maker
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Undertale
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plasmabeam
03/18/23 8:54:48 PM
#40:


  1. Blasphemous
  2. DOOM (2016)
  3. DOOM Eternal
  4. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
  5. Fire Emblem Awakening
  6. Fire Emblem Fates (Conquest, if I have to be specific)
  7. Hollow Knight
  8. Kid Icarus: Uprising
  9. Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain
  10. Metroid: Samus Returns
  11. NieR Replicant (PS4)
  12. Persona 5
  13. Persona 5 Strikers
  14. Resident Evil 7: Biohazard
  15. Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked
  16. Super Smash Bros. For Wii U
  17. Tales of Berseria
  18. Ys VIII: The Lacrymosa of Dana
  19. Ys IX: Monstrum Nox
  20. Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward



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raidenmon
03/18/23 9:00:44 PM
#41:


Super Smash Bros. For Wii U
Mega Man 11
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tazzyboyishere
03/18/23 9:08:34 PM
#42:


firefdr posted...
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
These don't count

mnk posted...
Dragon Quest VII: Fragments of the Forgotten Past
I've not played but I thought this was an enhanced port?

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tazzyboyishere
03/18/23 9:10:15 PM
#43:


plasmabeam posted...
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked
Oh this also wouldn't count I don't think

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Mr_Crispy
03/18/23 9:37:53 PM
#44:


tazzyboyishere posted...
These don't count

I've not played but I thought this was an enhanced port?

the original DQ7 used an engine similar to the DS DQ remakes, 2d sprites on a 3d background. The remake is all 3d.

the remake also changes the job system around a bit - in the original it's pretty similar to DQ6 and you have a huge list of all the spells and skills from all the jobs you've unlocked, but in the remake you only have skills from that job.

The remake also cut out the party chat during battle. On one hand it sometimes gave you advice but if you used it more than 2-3 times in a row the enemy got a free turn so I guess a lot of people didn't use it all that much.

Some of the events were changed around too. In the original, it basically takes like 2 solid hours from starting the game to getting to the first battle since you have to go around talking to a bunch of people and exploring the ruins then talking to more people after their dialog updated and then searching the ruins again to see if something's changed. In the remake, it tries to shorten/streamline this somewhat by having a new npc interact with you to try to gently push you along and gives you a fetch quest to get some armor pieces for a statue or something.

I'm probably not a good one to talk about it since I've only played the original back when it came out and haven't played the remake yet.

gameplay videos for comparison:

playstation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2hzucDOUYM

3ds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLJXRDIh3ss


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Camden
03/18/23 9:46:45 PM
#45:


Baba Is You
Cuphead

Ghost of Tsushima
Red Dead Redemption 2
Yakuza 0

Fantasy Life
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse
Shovel Knight
SteamWorld Dig
SteamWorld Dig 2
SteamWorld Heist

Super Mario Maker

Edit: I assumed Dragon Quest 7 wouldn't be eligible, but if it is I'll nominate it as well.

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Place
03/18/23 9:53:54 PM
#46:


Ah man I got nothin'.

The Witness

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Dancedreamer
03/18/23 9:54:54 PM
#47:


Persona 5: Royal
Resident Evil VII
The Sims 4
Dead By Daylight
Bloodborne
Marvel's Spider-Man
Stardew Valley
Red Dead Redemption 2
Fallout 4
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Resident Evil 2
Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Future Tone
God of War
Horizon: Zero Dawn
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
Pokemon X/Y
Kingdom Hearts 3
Watch Dogs 2
Cities Skylines
Shantae: Half-Genie Hero

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plasmabeam
03/18/23 9:55:26 PM
#48:


DROP
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Overclocked

ADD
AI: The Somnium Files

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Jesse_Custer
03/18/23 10:27:24 PM
#49:


Super Mario 3D World
Super Mario Maker
Uncharted 4
Cuphead
Celeste
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WhiteLens
03/18/23 10:28:08 PM
#50:


1) Super Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS (I'm guessing these are counted the same)
2) Super Mario 3D World
3) Kirby: Triple Deluxe
4) Kirby: Planet Robobot
5) Street Fighter V
6) Genshin Impact
7) Mario Kart 7
8) Pokemon X/Y
9) Animal Crossing: New Leaf
10) Mortal Kombat X
11) Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance
12) Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn (The A Realm Reborn more to specify that it's not FFXIV 1.0, and I'm using the PS4 release as the base. But you're free to lump it all as Final Fantasy XIV)

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