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TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 8:13:52 AM #201:	Later topic 2 SirChris posted... Anyway I am tired, but one last thing. I think the criteria for reading into people that Ulti and now Sultan is employing is deeply flawed. i won't speak for Han's original vote but having problems with lists or surface level things like people not developing strong reads early isn't beneficial for town. There's a big difference between "I don't like someone did this" and "I can see the scum motivation behind it." To vote JC I would need someone to lay it out for me why scum JC goes after death on a gut read when death is a really good player. Why would scum JC pick a fight with death there? What's the motivation? How does scum JC benefit from doing that with a weak reason? What does it accomplish for him? Why not sheep me? Why not attack a weaker player? Chris really getting on anyone voting JC --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972055043] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Later topic 2 SirChris posted... Anyway I am tired, but one last thing.I think the criteria for reading into people that Ulti and now Sultan is employing is deeply flawed. i won't speak for Han's original vote but having problems with lists or surface level things like people not developing strong reads early isn't beneficial for town. There's a big difference between "I don't like someone did this" and "I can see the scum motivation behind it."To vote JC I would need someone to lay it out for me why scum JC goes after death on a gut read when death is a really good player. Why would scum JC pick a fight with death there? What's the motivation? How does scum JC benefit from doing that with a weak reason? What does it accomplish for him? Why not sheep me? Why not attack a weaker player?Chris really getting on anyone voting JC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 8:16:11 AM #202:	End of topic 2 JC does not come back Chris continues to get on Han and Myself for voting JC. --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972055072] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>End of topic 2 JC does not come back Chris continues to get on Han and Myself for voting JC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 8:21:05 AM #203:	Up until page 4 topic 3 JC still doesn't return. Chris continues to defend JC hard and even put JC on his vote Veto list. Sheep also throws a little shade at Han but not for thought on JC but sorta defining JC --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972055135] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Up until page 4 topic 3 JC still doesn't return. Chris continues to defend JC hard and even put JC on his vote Veto list.Sheep also throws a little shade at Han but not for thought on JC but sorta defining JC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 8:25:05 AM #204:	Jc is not around the rest of topic 4 (he is far less active than I remembered) --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972055193] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Jc is not around the rest of topic 4 (he is far less active than I remembered)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 8:30:51 AM #205:	Chaeix posted... I want to slightly recant my Lea town soulread. I think it was valid for it to be pointed out that she made Death more palatable to put pressure on - pair that with starting the Chris train just now and Im seeing a lot of guiding the vote but not much scumhunting slightly concerning Death >>>>>>>>>> Han > Chris for my lynch/claim pref of the 3 Chaeix posted... Id prefer to lynch Ulti over Han or Chris personally So JC before the lynch --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972055277] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>I want to slightly recant my Lea town soulread. I think it was valid for it to be pointed out that she made Death more palatable to put pressure on - pair that with starting the Chris train just now and Im seeing a lot of guiding the vote but not much scumhuntingslightly concerningDeath >>>>>>>>>> Han > Chris for my lynch/claim pref of the 3</quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>Id prefer to lynch Ulti over Han or Chris personally</quote>So JC before the lynch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 8:31:16 AM #206:	Chaeix posted... claim time and pain time? or something --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972055280] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Chaeix posted... </cite><quote>claim time and pain time?or something</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 8:31:57 AM #207:	##vote:JC after my iso I feel really good about this --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972055292] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>##vote:JCafter my iso I feel really good about this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/09/23 8:32:42 AM #208:	claim time and pain time? or something https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/4/AARMM-AAEQiu.jpg --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:972055301] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote><quote>claim time and pain time?or something</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/4/AARMM-AAEQiu.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 03/09/23 8:34:33 AM #209:	wallmasterz posted... No I was being sarcastic and tried making a dumb joke that didnt quite land. I blame the lack of morning coffee ha. I think sheeps post was harmless (regardless of sheeps alignment) and I dont think its the best use of town resources to spend a lot more time on sheep after he was such a focus d1. In other words sheep shouldnt be viewed as definite town but I think theres bigger fish to fry to start the day. I dont really like ulti being critical of the post by sheep. In your defense I should have seen that whole post as a joke. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:972055340] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>No I was being sarcastic and tried making a dumb joke that didnt quite land. I blame the lack of morning coffee ha.I think sheeps post was harmless (regardless of sheeps alignment) and I dont think its the best use of town resources to spend a lot more time on sheep after he was such a focus d1. In other words sheep shouldnt be viewed as definite town but I think theres bigger fish to fry to start the day. I dont really like ulti being critical of the post by sheep.</quote>In your defense I should have seen that whole post as a joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 8:34:46 AM #210:	wallmasterz posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/4/AARMM-AAEQiu.jpg Lol the claim or pain time is pretty common phrase on B8 but the timing was all kinds of weird and JC litterally was doing nothing at the time so yes --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972055345] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/4/AARMM-AAEQiu.jpg</quote>Lol the claim or pain time is pretty common phrase on B8 but the timing was all kinds of weird and JC litterally was doing nothing at the time so yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/09/23 8:35:04 AM #211:	Ive been waiting to chime in so I didnt interrupt sultans iso. Nice job sultan ##Vote: JC Theres a ton of smoke here. I think everyone who voted for MZero should move their vote here, frankly. --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:972055350] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Ive been waiting to chime in so I didnt interrupt sultans iso. Nice job sultan ##Vote: JCTheres a ton of smoke here. I think everyone who voted for MZero should move their vote here, frankly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/09/23 8:37:43 AM #212:	I am good with JC being the lynch but this is my in progress, current wish list before d2 ends: would like to see BCT address their literal last second move to Chris would like ulti to answer ctes dang question(s) would like isquen to hopefully have time to catch up, provide initial thoughts and give some content --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:972055381] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>I am good with JC being the lynch but this is my in progress, current wish list before d2 ends:would like to see BCT address their literal last second move to Chris would like ulti to answer ctes dang question(s)would like isquen to hopefully have time to catch up, provide initial thoughts and give some content </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 8:41:32 AM #213:	To make things easier, we'll stop posting entirely. Only Lea may vote during this time --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972055440] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>To make things easier, we'll stop posting entirely. Only Lea may vote during this time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 8:41:40 AM #214:	Er, only Lea may post during this time --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972055444] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Er, only Lea may post during this time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/09/23 8:45:33 AM #215:	And sorry Han I agree with your call to slow down chatter until isquen catches up. Last post by me for a while but I do need to add one thing the wish list sheep and ulti both need to take a stance on JC and either move their votes on to JC or give their reasoning why they are not willing to vote him. Not good enough to just move off isquen --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:972055497] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>And sorry Han I agree with your call to slow down chatter until isquen catches up. Last post by me for a while but I do need to add one thing the wish list sheep and ulti both need to take a stance on JC and either move their votes on to JC or give their reasoning why they are not willing to vote him. Not good enough to just move off isquen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 8:50:25 AM #216:	HanOfTheNekos posted... To make things easier, we'll stop posting entirely. Only Lea may vote/post during this time I'm fine with this --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972055556] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>HanOfTheNekos posted... </cite><quote>To make things easier, we'll stop posting entirely. Only Lea may vote/post during this time</quote>I'm fine with this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 03/09/23 8:55:24 AM #217:	There's a sweet spot somewhere between flooding the topic and not posting at all while someone catches up. The idea to not post at all for any period of time is ridiculous. You can instead all go answer my question to Sheep on the previous page while you wait. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:972055635] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>There's a sweet spot somewhere between flooding the topic and not posting at all while someone catches up. The idea to not post at all for any period of time is ridiculous.You can instead all go answer my question to Sheep on the previous page while you wait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 9:03:31 AM #218:	TheSultanOfSlam posted... At end of day she never really mentioned Han as much as she did death. She thought Death was town to.. so not voting Death makes sense. Ulti and Han were on the table as well. I'm just confused that she didn't push a different chain as much and just piled onto a lynch she was against I had actually made it pretty clear I didn't really "trust" Chris and that the one thing townvibing me was the mindmelds we kept having. I'm like, never going to townclear Chris for any reason ever. Same for Ulti. Han at EoD just looked... Better than Chris did. I asked for good arguments against Chris, and Lea gave me one, to which I really had no counterargument to make. The train on Han felt like it had the weakest justification. Sheep's weak vote in particular kinda killed the Han train for me because something about it felt super duper wrong. Death my early townread never buckled on because damnit I can read Death. I had 3 options I did not like, and simply voted for the best one of the bunch. Sheep007 posted... Hm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying you think Chris putting up an attack on Sultan that multiple people didn't quite get makes Sultan more likely to be Scum? What do you think of Sultan aside from that? Oh and actually yes, a little bit. It's clear in hindsight Chris was acting with bravado. I kinda get the impression he never intended to stay on him. Oh and I feel like BCT would only place that vote there as scum if someone else on his team told him to do it which opens up a whole new can of worms I'm not interested in as I am not interested in lynching BCT. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972055745] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>TheSultanOfSlam posted... </cite><quote>At end of day she never really mentioned Han as much as she did death. She thought Death was town to.. so not voting Death makes sense. Ulti and Han were on the table as well.I'm just confused that she didn't push a different chain as much and just piled onto a lynch she was against</quote>I had actually made it pretty clear I didn't really "trust" Chris and that the one thing townvibing me was the mindmelds we kept having. I'm like, never going to townclear Chris for any reason ever. Same for Ulti.Han at EoD just looked... Better than Chris did. I asked for good arguments against Chris, and Lea gave me one, to which I really had no counterargument to make. The train on Han felt like it had the weakest justification. Sheep's weak vote in particular kinda killed the Han train for me because something about it felt super duper wrong. Death my early townread never buckled on because damnit I can read Death.I had 3 options I did not like, and simply voted for the best one of the bunch.Sheep007 posted... </cite><quote>Hm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying you think Chris putting up an attack on Sultan that multiple people didn't quite get makes Sultan more likely to be Scum?What do you think of Sultan aside from that?</quote>Oh and actually yes, a little bit. It's clear in hindsight Chris was acting with bravado. I kinda get the impression he never intended to stay on him.Oh and I feel like BCT would only place that vote there as scum if someone else on his team told him to do it which opens up a whole new can of worms I'm not interested in as I am not interested in lynching BCT.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 9:05:44 AM #219:	wallmasterz posted... No I was being sarcastic and tried making a dumb joke that didnt quite land. I blame the lack of morning coffee ha. I think sheeps post was harmless (regardless of sheeps alignment) and I dont think its the best use of town resources to spend a lot more time on sheep after he was such a focus d1. In other words sheep shouldnt be viewed as definite town but I think theres bigger fish to fry to start the day. I dont really like ulti being critical of the post by sheep. Sheep's post is the kind of thing that we all think about and usually just don't post. It adds onto the many weirdnesses of Sheep this game but does not amount to a reason for suspicion. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972055775] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>No I was being sarcastic and tried making a dumb joke that didnt quite land. I blame the lack of morning coffee ha.I think sheeps post was harmless (regardless of sheeps alignment) and I dont think its the best use of town resources to spend a lot more time on sheep after he was such a focus d1. In other words sheep shouldnt be viewed as definite town but I think theres bigger fish to fry to start the day. I dont really like ulti being critical of the post by sheep.</quote>Sheep's post is the kind of thing that we all think about and usually just don't post. It adds onto the many weirdnesses of Sheep this game but does not amount to a reason for suspicion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 9:09:07 AM #220:	Crescent-Moon posted... I had actually made it pretty clear I didn't really "trust" Chris and that the one thing townvibing me was the mindmelds we kept having. I'm like, never going to townclear Chris for any reason ever. Same for Ulti. Han at EoD just looked... Better than Chris did. I asked for good arguments against Chris, and Lea gave me one, to which I really had no counterargument to make. The train on Han felt like it had the weakest justification. Sheep's weak vote in particular kinda killed the Han train for me because something about it felt super duper wrong. Death my early townread never buckled on because damnit I can read Death. I had 3 options I did not like, and simply voted for the best one of the bunch. Okay im good with this. I don't remember seeing that you didn't trust Chris just more so the this is making me sick voting Chris comments. --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972055827] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Crescent-Moon posted... </cite><quote>I had actually made it pretty clear I didn't really "trust" Chris and that the one thing townvibing me was the mindmelds we kept having. I'm like, never going to townclear Chris for any reason ever. Same for Ulti.Han at EoD just looked... Better than Chris did. I asked for good arguments against Chris, and Lea gave me one, to which I really had no counterargument to make. The train on Han felt like it had the weakest justification. Sheep's weak vote in particular kinda killed the Han train for me because something about it felt super duper wrong. Death my early townread never buckled on because damnit I can read Death.I had 3 options I did not like, and simply voted for the best one of the bunch.</quote>Okay im good with this. I don't remember seeing that you didn't trust Chris just more so the this is making me sick voting Chris comments. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 9:13:44 AM #221:	Speaking of Sheep hi Sheep refresh me why you voted Han please --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972055894] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Speaking of Sheep hi Sheep refresh me why you voted Han please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 9:17:28 AM #223:	Uh I never said you were gaslighting Death, I just wanted to put words in Sheep's mouth after he offhandedly dropped suspicion of you for essentially no reason and see what he did about it. Then you and Death both decided to interfere with my experiment so thanks. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972055942] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Uh I never said you were gaslighting Death, I just wanted to put words in Sheep's mouth after he offhandedly dropped suspicion of you for essentially no reason and see what he did about it.Then you and Death both decided to interfere with my experiment so thanks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 9:28:42 AM #224:	ctesjbuvf posted... You can instead all go answer my question to Sheep on the previous page while you wait What question is that --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972056086] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>You can instead all go answer my question to Sheep on the previous page while you wait</quote> What question is that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Isquen 03/09/23 9:30:19 AM #225:	Hi, I'm briefly awake. I know I've got a lot of catch up to do, but fortunately was mostly paying attention for day 1. The upside for today is that I work alone at a slow branch tonight until 8 eastern, so can do some thinking (if not heavy posting) then. Some quick thoughts: - Voting Mzero to put heat on him appears lazy, and my gut immediately wants to aim at Crescent, but that's purely visceral. - While I appreciate Dumey posting a long string of quotes in pursuit of someone, the... amount he looks into someone (that was killed night 1) is baffling. - Low hanging fruit squad assemble. I thank Sultan for the ISO, though I need to go verify it myself. Later. I'm still sleepy, and my commute starts in an hour and a half. Until then, tracked and tagging this/prior topics for now. --- [Rock and Stone] <o/ <cite>Isquen posted [p:972056120] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Hi, I'm briefly awake. I know I've got a lot of catch up to do, but fortunately was mostly paying attention for day 1. The upside for today is that I work alone at a slow branch tonight until 8 eastern, so can do some thinking (if not heavy posting) then. Some quick thoughts:- Voting Mzero to put heat on him appears lazy, and my gut immediately wants to aim at Crescent, but that's purely visceral. - While I appreciate Dumey posting a long string of quotes in pursuit of someone, the... amount he looks into someone (that was killed night 1) is baffling.- Low hanging fruit squad assemble. I thank Sultan for the ISO, though I need to go verify it myself. Later. I'm still sleepy, and my commute starts in an hour and a half. Until then, tracked and tagging this/prior topics for now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crescent-Moon 03/09/23 9:43:57 AM #226:	Making MZero actually do something was everyone's primary goal and he in fact did something so it achieved it's purpose. I don't read much into it on anyone. --- So a planet's somewhere out there, their history the same as ours is written. The only difference is that... Everyone's a kitten! <cite>Crescent-Moon posted [p:972056323] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Making MZero actually do something was everyone's primary goal and he in fact did something so it achieved it's purpose. I don't read much into it on anyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 10:20:11 AM #228:	I don't think it counts as a betrayal if she never towncleared you in the first place. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972056982] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>I don't think it counts as a betrayal if she never towncleared you in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 10:27:12 AM #231:	I'll do you one better, Ulti. I don't just not Townclear you I Scumclear you. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972057111] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>I'll do you one better, Ulti.I don't just not Townclear you I Scumclear you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 10:29:33 AM #233:	It means I'm calling you Scum, bub --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972057158] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>It means I'm calling you Scum, bub</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 03/09/23 10:30:01 AM #234:	I have a stomach bug and have called off work. So I should be around a bit should anyone wanna chat. But I am grumpy. Grrr. ctesjbuvf posted... Man, I really thought Death looked scum after Chris flipped. Although hopefully having two lynch candidates flipped can give some feedback upon looking back. That will be step one I guess. I feel like this is a strange read. I was pretty much the biggest pusher of the Death suspicion, and even I thought end of day made Death look incredibly townie. From the lack of any effort from scum to move the lynch from him, to him not willing to vote Chris in his own defense, etc. I think it would have been better if he was a bit more proactive instead of acting defeated, but I'm not sure how Chris flipping scum would make Death look worse somehow. You even mention in the very next post about Chris going to sleep before deadline, which wouldn't make sense if Death was scum! ctesjbuvf posted... I don't think Chris flipping clears Sultan. He knows better than that. Honestly, his case sounding weak makes it more than likely that it was a true case more than anything. Similar to how his weak defense of Death is now known to be true. I also don't like this analysis of trying to keep Sultan on the table based on Chris' flip. One of the biggest reasons Chris looked bad there was his very weak push of Sultan, after spending hours of building up tension between Chris/Ulti/Han. Is Chris bussing Sultan to try and get town cred possible there? Sure, but this analysis feeling backwards right after the other post is maybe more noticeable to me atm. For what it's worth, I did like your analysis of people speculating on Death's kill. I think it's hard to believe scum are killing claimed Vanillas instead of power hunting unless they thought Death was lying for some reason. So your analysis of Sheep/Ulti and the whole "discussing the plan" thing is interesting to me. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:972057170] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>I have a stomach bug and have called off work. So I should be around a bit should anyone wanna chat. But I am grumpy. Grrr.ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>Man, I really thought Death looked scum after Chris flipped.Although hopefully having two lynch candidates flipped can give some feedback upon looking back. That will be step one I guess.</quote>I feel like this is a strange read. I was pretty much the biggest pusher of the Death suspicion, and even I thought end of day made Death look incredibly townie. From the lack of any effort from scum to move the lynch from him, to him not willing to vote Chris in his own defense, etc. I think it would have been better if he was a bit more proactive instead of acting defeated, but I'm not sure how Chris flipping scum would make Death look worse somehow.You even mention in the very next post about Chris going to sleep before deadline, which wouldn't make sense if Death was scum!ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>I don't think Chris flipping clears Sultan. He knows better than that. Honestly, his case sounding weak makes it more than likely that it was a true case more than anything. Similar to how his weak defense of Death is now known to be true.</quote>I also don't like this analysis of trying to keep Sultan on the table based on Chris' flip. One of the biggest reasons Chris looked bad there was his very weak push of Sultan, after spending hours of building up tension between Chris/Ulti/Han. Is Chris bussing Sultan to try and get town cred possible there? Sure, but this analysis feeling backwards right after the other post is maybe more noticeable to me atm.For what it's worth, I did like your analysis of people speculating on Death's kill. I think it's hard to believe scum are killing claimed Vanillas instead of power hunting unless they thought Death was lying for some reason. So your analysis of Sheep/Ulti and the whole "discussing the plan" thing is interesting to me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 03/09/23 10:31:34 AM #235:	TheSultanOfSlam posted... What question is that Post 168 --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:972057199] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>TheSultanOfSlam posted... </cite><quote>What question is that</quote>Post 168</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 10:33:36 AM #238:	UltimaterializerX posted... After all my efforts keeping Crescent alive yesterday I get knifed in the back. Betrayed. Bamboozled. Hoodwinked. Thieved. Heel turned. Backtracked. Rewound. This is an outrage! So basically what you did to me! --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972057238] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>After all my efforts keeping Crescent alive yesterday I get knifed in the back. Betrayed. Bamboozled. Hoodwinked. Thieved. Heel turned. Backtracked. Rewound. This is an outrage! </quote>So basically what you did to me! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 03/09/23 10:35:12 AM #239:	Han, I think you're town, but I think something about your posts putting suspicion on Sheep didn't sit right with me when I was catching up. But I don't remember what trying to look back for it now. >_> I think maybe it was the post you voted JC in. Can you give me a quick rundown of why you think Sheep looks bad from Topic 3? I'd be interested in reviewing it. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:972057268] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>Han, I think you're town, but I think something about your posts putting suspicion on Sheep didn't sit right with me when I was catching up. But I don't remember what trying to look back for it now. >_> I think maybe it was the post you voted JC in. Can you give me a quick rundown of why you think Sheep looks bad from Topic 3? I'd be interested in reviewing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 10:35:23 AM #240:	UltimaterializerX posted... lol Have fun with that. You... Realize that was a joke, right? --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972057274] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>lolHave fun with that.</quote>You... Realize that was a joke, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 03/09/23 10:36:07 AM #241:	EDumey posted... Han, I think you're town, but I think something about your posts putting suspicion on Sheep didn't sit right with me when I was catching up. But I don't remember what trying to look back for it now. >_> I think maybe it was the post you voted JC in. Can you give me a quick rundown of why you think Sheep looks bad from Topic 3? I'd be interested in reviewing it. Not rn --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:972057286] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>EDumey posted... </cite><quote>Han, I think you're town, but I think something about your posts putting suspicion on Sheep didn't sit right with me when I was catching up. But I don't remember what trying to look back for it now. >_> I think maybe it was the post you voted JC in. Can you give me a quick rundown of why you think Sheep looks bad from Topic 3? I'd be interested in reviewing it.</quote>Not rn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EDumey 03/09/23 10:36:47 AM #243:	oh okay. i guess i'll try and iso myself. sad. --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:972057299] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>oh okay. i guess i'll try and iso myself. sad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 10:36:53 AM #244:	ctesjbuvf posted... about the night kill with the following: This post is one of those revealing-the-plan that scum likes to make. If we try to imagine that you were wrong and I'm right that Death was not the intended kill for the purpose of the exercise, what would be more likely. Town Ulti believes you're scum sharing the actual thought process of the team as indicated, or scum Ulti knowing this is not what happened wanting it to not be looked into by making it sound like you're right and getting to attack someone in the same progress? Are you claiming to be a busdriver or more so that one is out there somewhere? --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972057302] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>ctesjbuvf posted... </cite><quote>about the night kill with the following:This post is one of those revealing-the-plan that scum likes to make.If we try to imagine that you were wrong and I'm right that Death was not the intended kill for the purpose of the exercise, what would be more likely. Town Ulti believes you're scum sharing the actual thought process of the team as indicated, or scum Ulti knowing this is not what happened wanting it to not be looked into by making it sound like you're right and getting to attack someone in the same progress?</quote>Are you claiming to be a busdriver or more so that one is out there somewhere?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 03/09/23 10:38:33 AM #247:	EDumey posted... I feel like this is a strange read. I was pretty much the biggest pusher of the Death suspicion, and even I thought end of day made Death look incredibly townie. From the lack of any effort from scum to move the lynch from him, to him not willing to vote Chris in his own defense, etc. I think it would have been better if he was a bit more proactive instead of acting defeated, but I'm not sure how Chris flipping scum would make Death look worse somehow. You even mention in the very next post about Chris going to sleep before deadline, which wouldn't make sense if Death was scum! Yes, this is all very clear in hindsight to me as well >_> EDumey posted... I also don't like this analysis of trying to keep Sultan on the table based on Chris' flip. One of the biggest reasons Chris looked bad there was his very weak push of Sultan, after spending hours of building up tension between Chris/Ulti/Han. Is Chris bussing Sultan to try and get town cred possible there? Sure, but this analysis feeling backwards right after the other post is maybe more noticeable to me atm. I think at some point Chris must have pressured scum without really doing it, his votes are all over. I first thought that was Death but it was clearly not. I would not think Sutlan was more or less on the table regardless of what Chris flips, for what it's worth. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:972057325] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>EDumey posted... </cite><quote>I feel like this is a strange read. I was pretty much the biggest pusher of the Death suspicion, and even I thought end of day made Death look incredibly townie. From the lack of any effort from scum to move the lynch from him, to him not willing to vote Chris in his own defense, etc. I think it would have been better if he was a bit more proactive instead of acting defeated, but I'm not sure how Chris flipping scum would make Death look worse somehow.You even mention in the very next post about Chris going to sleep before deadline, which wouldn't make sense if Death was scum!</quote>Yes, this is all very clear in hindsight to me as well >_>EDumey posted... </cite><quote>I also don't like this analysis of trying to keep Sultan on the table based on Chris' flip. One of the biggest reasons Chris looked bad there was his very weak push of Sultan, after spending hours of building up tension between Chris/Ulti/Han. Is Chris bussing Sultan to try and get town cred possible there? Sure, but this analysis feeling backwards right after the other post is maybe more noticeable to me atm.</quote>I think at some point Chris must have pressured scum without really doing it, his votes are all over. I first thought that was Death but it was clearly not. I would not think Sutlan was more or less on the table regardless of what Chris flips, for what it's worth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EDumey 03/09/23 10:38:42 AM #248:	so if bus driver does exist, we can lynch you on principle, right? :) --- my links broke. :( <cite>EDumey posted [p:972057329] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>so if bus driver does exist, we can lynch you on principle, right? :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSultanOfSlam 03/09/23 10:39:08 AM #249:	UltimaterializerX posted... I would absolutely shocked if me + bus driver exists. That is why I'm confused Ctes is asking this question. --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple <cite>TheSultanOfSlam posted [p:972057336] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>I would absolutely shocked if me + bus driver exists.</quote>That is why I'm confused Ctes is asking this question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 03/09/23 10:40:05 AM #250:	I'm very aware of how my last-second vote looks bad. Like I tend to do Day 1, I panicked those last few minutes and felt I needed to put my vote on someone, thinking others would, too. I had no idea who was scum and just went with my gut. That's really it. --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:972057351] in Star Trek ... [t:80371959]...</cite> <quote>I'm very aware of how my last-second vote looks bad. Like I tend to do Day 1, I panicked those last few minutes and felt I needed to put my vote on someone, thinking others would, too. I had no idea who was scum and just went with my gut. That's really it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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