Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic 5: Poor Dumb Harry.

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Crescent coming in with poorly crafted jabs at my credibility instead of explaining her thought process is not a good look.

My thought process was already explained. I only thought Death was scum based on possible conspiracy theories, but I held to my immediate town read of Death and voted Chris to save him.

Are you actually reading the topic?

Crescent-Moon posted...

My thought process was already explained. I only thought Death was scum based on possible conspiracy theories, but I held to my immediate town read of Death and voted Chris to save him.

Are you actually reading the topic?

That doesn't explain why you voted Chris instead of Han though.

The end of the day left me with a taste in my mouth that you thought Chris would be more likely to be town if Death is town. Not voting Han instead doesn't make sense to me because you hadn't really commented on Han much so it looks like you voted your town read over your neutral read.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80373888

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Chaeix posted...

That doesn't explain why you voted Chris instead of Han though.

The end of the day left me with a taste in my mouth that you thought Chris would be more likely to be town if Death is town. Not voting Han instead doesn't make sense to me because you hadn't really commented on Han much so it looks like you voted your town read over your neutral read.

...And again, you prove you haven't been reading the topic.

Crescent-Moon posted... Sheep's vote on Han was something that stuck out the me before I voted Chris, as something about it just didn't feel right to me. The vote to save Death at this point was obviously Chris, not Han.

No one defended Death yesterday as much as Sheep and I did (We both called Death as town almost immediately, and I didn't buy Death's vote on Han being scum driven at all without some major conspiratorial bullshit), but when the chips were on the table, I was on the best not-Death train, and he found an excuse to avoid it.

Which is why I asked him a couple of hours ago to refresh for me exactly why he voted Han.

Sheep still hasn't answered this.

UltimaterializerX posted...

I think Crescent is hilariously obvious town, so there is no chance she gets lynched while I live. And I can buy Justins logic for scanning her, sure.

Crescent I dont need to know your role, but who did you visit last night and why?

And this is why it feels far more likely scum would scan me, unless JC is the one town in the game dumb enough to keep spouting arguments for me being scum that I've already answered without acknowledging I've already answered them.

Like if this isn't scum this is horrendous town play from someone who really isn't even trying.

Crescent-Moon posted...

...And again, you prove you haven't been reading the topic.

If I'm clearly missing something can you at least show me what I'm missing?

Though I had game on another site where I murdered scum day 1 and immediately got vigged for it by a useless inactive who wasn't actually playing the game.

Which would effectively sum up JC so far so in that lens...

Chaeix posted...

If I'm clearly missing something can you at least show me what I'm missing?

...I showed you in that post.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Crescent I dont need to know your role, but who did you visit last night and why?

You are a an unrepentant fisher, and you know it. Repent for your sins.

Mass claiming is boring

I dont think crescent should reveal

UltimaterializerX posted...

I think Crescent is hilariously obvious town, so there is no chance she gets lynched while I live. And I can buy Justins logic for scanning her, sure.

Crescent I dont need to know your role, but who did you visit last night and don't?

Lol I don't need to know your role but claim anyways is basically how this reads lol

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Lol I don't need to know your role but claim anyways is basically how this reads lol

i dont need your ssn just your drivers license and the first 8 digits of your ssn

Crescent-Moon posted...

...I showed you in that post.

Your post absolutely did not explain why you voted Chris over Han? It didn't even mention Han's name?

EDumey posted...

You are a an unrepentant fisher, and you know it. Repent for your sins.

Ulti's been fishing at me a lot today.

I have no interest in claiming outside of a mass claim. There is a chance JC could just be horrendous town here trying to throw the game and I feel my claiming just compounds the damage.

Chaeix posted...

Your post absolutely did not explain why you voted Chris over Han? It didn't even mention Han's name?

undefined posted... Sheep's vote on Han was something that stuck out the me before I voted Chris, as something about it just didn't feel right to me. The vote to save Death at this point was obviously Chris, not Han.

Are you actually going to try this game?

Does Crescent get this upset just having power revealed? Feels iffy

i need to lie down

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Does Crescent get this upset just having power revealed? Feels iffy

I think this has been so botched that he's probably town despite everything he's done today AND yesterday indicating to me he's scum.

Meaning I've got a useless, inactive player outing me as power when most of the game town reads me. So yes, I'm mad at the useless, inactive player.

And one of my most recent games I had a useless, inactive player vig me despite absolutely burying scum day 1 because he took exception to a single post I made 2 hours into the day.

So that kinda just adds fuel to it.

This is my hangup on JC. And im not even sure if it means much or not but why does this seem like a legit claim but a scum role. Maybe im to caught up on having that role as scum in a game before?

Crescent-Moon posted...

Sheep's vote on Han was something that stuck out the me before I voted Chris, as something about it just didn't feel right to me. The vote to save Death at this point was obviously Chris, not Han.

Are you actually going to try this game?

Ah okay I see what you were pointing at now. I'm blind/thought it was just a separate point about Sheep since it really didn't seem that much like a read.

In any case, I still don't really get why you would go 'Death is town, Chris is likely same faction as Death, vote Chris'. Would feeling slightly off about Sheep's vote be enough? I'm skeptical.

And I have to take your explanation with a grain of salt given that you just didn't comment on Han at all last day and this explanation is entirely post-hoc. You could have commented that you didn't like the Sheep vote since it was made 8 minutes before EoD, but you didn't.

Why didn't you comment on Han at all actually? You commented on Sultan, Death, and Chris at EoD but just didn't even say Han's name once even though he was a lynch leader.

Crescent-Moon posted...

And one of my most recent games I had a useless, inactive player vig me despite absolutely burying scum day 1 because he took exception to a single post I made 2 hours into the day.

So that kinda just adds fuel to it.

I had Han with an innocent scan on me tunnel me for most of D2 last game, blowing up my position as Town Jack.

If you're town I apologize, but it's mafia. It happens.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Justin what is your flavor?

Lieutenant Reginald Barclay

posted with my claim

All I remember is I was panicking and going through rapidfire conspiracies seeing if any one of them actually made me remove my townread on Death.

I said it earlier in the day, Han is someone I essentially always suspect and I don't trust my reads on him. I trust my ability to read Death. Scum Death is terrified of me for a reason.

Chaeix posted...

I had Han with an innocent scan on me tunnel me for most of D2 last game, blowing up my position as Town Jack.

Hey, it was a vague scan, thank you.

Crescent-Moon posted...

All I remember is I was panicking and going through rapidfire conspiracies seeing if any one of them actually made me remove my townread on Death.

I said it earlier in the day, Han is someone I essentially always suspect and I don't trust my reads on him. I trust my ability to read Death. Scum Death is terrified of me for a reason.

This makes the vote make less sense then? You vote for Chris who you've tied to someone who you think is town, over someone who you don't trust your reads on and always suspect?

I can't say that your claim of the Sheep vote couldn't change your evaluation of the circumstance, but this just isn't adding up in my head.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Sheep, similar question. Ulti responded to you guessing about the night kill with the following:

This post is one of those revealing-the-plan that scum likes to make.

If we try to imagine that you were wrong and I'm right that Death was not the intended kill for the purpose of the exercise, what would be more likely. Town Ulti believes you're scum sharing the actual thought process of the team as indicated, or scum Ulti knowing this is not what happened wanting it to not be looked into by making it sound like you're right and getting to attack someone in the same progress?

I already think Ulti is Town, but yeah, Town Ulti. It probably just popped into his mind that he's seen people do this before.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

If we're piling on Sheep, I'll remind everyone that he gave a very good argument for why me unvoting him yesterday was not Scummy (more NAI) and yet he was voting me saying me unvoting him was Scummy.

I kinda flipped back and forth on whether the unvote on me was bad or not, yeah. My eventual vote for you was based mostly on not having a fuckin clue where to put it, and thinking Chris and Death, the only other options I saw as realistic, were both more likely to be Town. Like I said, it wasn't a vote I was confident in at all at the time, just the best option in my eyes.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

It would read as him being told to bus Chris, since the lynch would have been seen as inevitable. That would mean other Scum were watching at the same but probably not voting/posting, though.

Do you think there's any chance ScumBCT sees that Chris is getting lynched and jumps on anyway, without being told by someone else?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hey, it was a vague scan, thank you.

unless I was somehow the Wattfather you knew I was town haha

Sheep007 posted...

Do you think there's any chance ScumBCT sees that Chris is getting lynched and jumps on anyway, without being told by someone else?

Not really.

Chaeix posted...

This makes the vote make less sense then? You vote for Chris who you've tied to someone who you think is town, over someone who you don't trust your reads on and always suspect?

I can't say that your claim of the Sheep vote couldn't change your evaluation of the circumstance, but this just isn't adding up in my head.

It's almost like I spouted out like 4 different conspiracy theories in the last hour or two of the day and didn't stick with any of them because I decided to just trust myself what a concept

Sheep007 posted...

Do you think there's any chance ScumBCT sees that Chris is getting lynched and jumps on anyway, without being told by someone else?

Maybe? He does want to look towny as possible and even said he wants to make sure everyone knows he is town

Chaeix posted...

unless I was somehow the Wattfather you knew I was town haha

Your flavor was not specifically for Watt.

Anyway, Crescent's refusal to claim anything narrows down what she is.
"Weak Tracker" sounds so fake that I haven't been able to properly parse it yet.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Speaking of Sheep hi Sheep refresh me why you voted Han please

I feel like I answered this in my prior post but yeah, pretty much the same reason you voted Chris but in reverse - he just felt like the best option late in the game. It was really between him and Chris, and I liked the way Chris had approached the game more from a Town perspective, even if I wasn't fully sold. It was pretty much always going to be a snap decision given my lack of strong feelings on either, and I wanted to make it when I did so it was early enough for Han to last-minute claim if it was necessary.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Your flavor was not specifically for Watt.

Anyway, Crescent's refusal to claim anything narrows down what she is.
"Weak Tracker" sounds so fake that I haven't been able to properly parse it yet..

I don't believe I have any reason to claim at this present time.