Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic 5: Poor Dumb Harry.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Don't tempt me to kill you. I'm on a heat check and Chris is the only reason I didn't just kill you yesterday. Which actually worked out.

I find it no accident that you YET AGAIN ended a day on confirmed town, but with Death actually dying it does, in a very roundabout way, give me a town read on you. I know you don't think this but I do actually respect your scum play a lot. I think you would just try to mislynch him instead of kill him.

Which leads me to who the scum is. Chris doesn't take a nap there if his team was actually present and able to save him, so I think his entire team is AFK, lurking, and/or in the wrong time zone.

MZero did not vote. ctes was a non-factor. If one or both is scum, and I think they are, it perfectly explains that lynch. Because there is a zero percent chance Chris allows that lynch with active teammates.

##Vote: MZero

HEAT CHECK.

The question I continue to ponder is why does claimed town vanilla that some people probably still think is scum die in the first place.

Wall how much experience do you actually have playing mafia I want to clear this little tidbit up

Anyways ##vote:Ulti

yesterday he still ended on Chris but that Dropping his vote to join Chris was really weird. I said it yesterday and I'll say it again today I wouldn't be surprised if they are linked

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Anyways ##vote:Ulti

yesterday he still ended on Chris but that Dropping his vote to join Chris was really weird. I said it yesterday and I'll say it again today I wouldn't be surprised if they are linked

Oh boy I can't wait to see the reaction to this

Crescent-Moon posted...

Wall how much experience do you actually have playing mafia I want to clear this little tidbit up

played a bunch of games irl in middle school and early high school so 15-20 years ago. This is my first online game

UltimaterializerX posted...

They might have had a bogus power read or read into the flavor too hard or something.

Death was in the lead in votes with like 2 or 3 minutes left if he were power he would've said so. I think something weird happened last night but it doesn't make sense to deep dive it at this juncture.

I am pained to admit it, but I have no choice but to honor Ulti's heat check (and Lea's!)

I think what made me say "in retrospect, that was really fucking obvious" was Chris saying it made no sense to see Sultan as good yesterday.

On that note

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Anyways ##vote:Ulti

yesterday he still ended on Chris but that Dropping his vote to join Chris was really weird. I said it yesterday and I'll say it again today I wouldn't be surprised if they are linked

Do you understand why this is a foolish vote?

wallmasterz posted...

played a bunch of games irl in middle school and early high school so 15-20 years ago. This is my first online game

Ok yeah that's not even in the same ballpark.

UltimaterializerX posted...

he has a role that literally says "I can be confirmed town and win the game by myself" on it.

Where does it say this? How does "double vote" automatically make someone town?

That said, I've never been on a scum team with Chris and you have, so... yeah.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Which leads me to who the scum is. Chris doesn't take a nap there if his team was actually present and able to save him, so I think his entire team is AFK, lurking, and/or in the wrong time zone.

So... who would this be? Do we think there are 4 scum or just 3 and 1-2 independents?

Is MZero/Wallz/ctes viable? IDK.

Chaeix posted...

Aigis tracks and suplexes Pamela
Labrys tells Mario that Cappy better hit Tingle or else!
Done

something something here we go in a Mario voice

Only scum thinks Mafia is Mercs, you know. /s

Crescent-Moon posted...

Death was in the lead in votes with like 2 or 3 minutes left if he were power he would've said so. I think something weird happened last night but it doesn't make sense to deep dive it at this juncture.

i dont mean this in an accusatory way because I lean town on you but why doesnt it make sense to deep dive into this?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Anyways ##vote:Ulti

yesterday he still ended on Chris but that Dropping his vote to join Chris was really weird. I said it yesterday and I'll say it again today I wouldn't be surprised if they are linked

what is this i dont even

Ulti right now is the one most aggressively trying to solve who could be Chris's scummate. I don't like this, Sultan.

Looking back at scum Chris:

Chris 1.069: Sultan are you ok? Feels like you should know that was a joke. [This gives Sultan an opportunity to mention his concussion, fwiw]

Sultan 1.073: Tbh not exactly...

I didnt want to mention this in game but I actually have a mild concussion.... [did it actually pain Sultan to mention this lol]

not to seem like a dick hopefully I dont

wallmasterz posted...

Looking back at scum Chris:

Chris 1.069: Sultan are you ok? Feels like you should know that was a joke. [This gives Sultan an opportunity to mention his concussion, fwiw]

Sultan 1.073: Tbh not exactly...

I didnt want to mention this in game but I actually have a mild concussion.... [did it actually pain Sultan to mention this lol]

not to seem like a dick hopefully I dont

##vote: Sultan

Yeah, Sultan's scum

wallmasterz posted...

i dont mean this in an accusatory way because I lean town on you but why doesnt it make sense to deep dive into this?

Because we lack the information to even attempt to figure out why Death was killed, even if it appears to be weird. It doesn't help us in any way to seriously pursue that angle.

Chris would not stage such a thing fully knowing a teammate would respond in that kind of manner. He would feel it goes against the spirit of the game, and it's a sentiment I agree with.

That exchange amounts to nothing on Sultan.

I still want Sultan to explain why he thinks Ulti and Chris are linked though, seeing as that's what sounded many alarm bells to begin with.

Seriously no one finds ults flip flopping to be scum theater??
Did he ever exsplain why he due that to begin with? I was frustrated beacuse we had momentum on Chris and he backed off and looked to have wasted most of the day.. maybe im still made or confused at this flip flop but i wouldn't put it last Ulti and Chris to pull something lime this.

Also i legit have a concussion I wouldn't pull that stuff if you know me at all..

And yet, Ulti's now the one trying to prove you innocent, Sultan. I don't follow. I just think Ulti was trying to figure out what was going on seeing as I flip-flopped quite a bit on D1.

I do hope you concussion gets better, my friend, but you've raised my eyebrow.

However I am starting to feel alot better went back to taequando today

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Seriously no one finds ults flip flopping to be scum theater??
Did he ever exsplain why he due that to begin with? I was frustrated beacuse we had momentum on Chris and he backed off and looked to have wasted most of the day.. maybe im still made or confused at this flip flop but i wouldn't put it last Ulti and Chris to pull something lime this.

Ulti flapping his vote around all over the place is actually slightly +town for him. Scum Ulti is more likely to just straight up tunnel there.

Would I be completely shocked if he's scum of course not, but surely you have other takeaways than just this from last night?

So basically I was the victim of being beanbuzzled but still sticking to my gut on Chris helped us lynch him by ulti tricking me got it!

##unvote

##unvote

I think I'm happy with that defense. I think.

UltimaterializerX posted...

And yeah the lack of activity makes me think scum gave up, or that my read of AFK/time zone allies is right. Feeling real good about my MZero heat check.

MZero is also setting off alarm bells for me. A disinterested MZero is usually a scum MZero, right?

I wasn't wanting to be apart of that camp beacuse Mzero is always kind of inactive but he is usually more active as town right?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

##unvote

I think I'm happy with that defense. I think.

MZero is also setting off alarm bells for me. A disinterested MZero is usually a scum MZero, right?

I'm not even sure disinterested is a strong enough word. His one post today vibes as not giving any sort of crap at all.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I wasn't wanting to be apart of that camp beacuse Mzero is always kind of inactive but he is usually more active as town right?

MZero is not generally active but when he gives no effort at all he's more likely to be scum.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Never change, Sultan.

And yeah the lack of activity makes me think scum gave up, or that my read of AFK/time zone allies is right. Feeling real good about my MZero heat check.

It's just really low energy for a day start. Way too many people aren't here for them to all be scum.

Sheep007 posted...

Okay I said I was gonna go to bed but this kinda annoys me if you're town tbh. You missed a D1 lynch of Chris as Scum and this is the only thing you have to say? C'mon man, you're a better player than that. Best case scenario you're just town vanilla, playing an awful game and need a kick up the arse. Far more likely, you're scum who's unmotivated and doesn't believe they can win after seeing Chris get ganked.

look I haven't had the chance to read those 1000 posts yet and it's going to take awhile. I don't even know why Chris was lynched because no one was suspecting him when I went to bed

MZero posted...

look I haven't had the chance to read those 1000 posts yet and it's going to take awhile. I don't even know why Chris was lynched because no one was suspecting him when I went to bed

But we had an entire 24 hour night phase so...

Crescent-Moon posted...

It's just really low energy for a day start. Way too many people aren't here for them to all be scum.

Yeah, it's so weird to me for a D2. Really feels like there are only a few of us left, but whatever.

MZero posted...

look I haven't had the chance to read those 1000 posts yet and it's going to take awhile. I don't even know why Chris was lynched because no one was suspecting him when I went to bed

So? I took too long to get caught up but I was still trying to be active in what was current. Seems to me like you're doing your usual scum shtick and not caring about activity.

Chris:
Murder: han, ulti, Sultan
Veto: jc, wall, Crescent

Would Chris want to Veto a kill on a team mate?

What's kinda amazing is everyone on his kill list was voting him at the end of the day.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Also i legit have a concussion I wouldn't pull that stuff if you know me at all..

Sultan I just want to clear the air a little bit, at no point did I think you lied about having a concussion. I do think some people who play this game, not implying anyone but I just mean in general, might have no trouble using something legit theyre experiencing like Covid brain fog or a concussion to their benefit. I dont know you at all but I really wanted to get the opinion of people who know you and know what kinds of lines have been drawn in the sand for years when it comes to this. I felt like it was just due diligence with Chris flipping scum. But I never for a second doubted your concussion was legit and Im really grateful youre feeling better. I hope theres no hard feelings.

wallmasterz posted...

Sultan I just want to clear the air a little bit, at no point did I think you lied about having a concussion. I do think some people who play this game, not implying anyone but I just mean in general, might have no trouble using something legit theyre experiencing like Covid brain fog or a concussion to their benefit. I dont know you at all but I really wanted to get the opinion of people who know you and know what kinds of lines have been drawn in the sand for years when it comes to this. I felt like it was just due diligence with Chris flipping scum. But I never for a second doubted your concussion was legit and Im really grateful youre feeling better. I hope theres no hard feelings.

I'm not mad dont worry

UltimaterializerX posted...

Hi Wall.

Crescent thinks youre scum. I dont.

What say you?

He's already said something, now I'm just processing it.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Hi Wall.

Crescent thinks youre scum. I dont.

What say you?

i think its weird af you offered to help sultan by asking him to claim twice when I didnt even cast a vote for him

Why do you think Im not scum? Clearly a few people do. Although if cop scanned me they know Im town but theyre doing the right thing and keeping their mouth shut about it

I've been real busy so don't expect much more out of me.

MZero is like, the easy answer. I haven't actually analyzed the lynch or anything yet. Probably smart to revisit JC again.

Actually the easy answer is often mislynch bait, except when it's actually an established player like MZero following a trend like this.

Anyways the best way I've been able to internalize Wall's response to my immediate shot at him is that it feels... Candid. Like he's not even trying to make any real excuse for just how bad he looked at the end of the day yesterday and just acknowledges it.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Because you reacted exactly how Id expect noob town to react when pressured. Noob scum panics at the thought of being scanned.

Fair. One other question, if you dont mind me asking

UltimaterializerX posted...

Hi Wall.

Crescent thinks youre scum. I dont.

What say you?

Whats your purpose in asking me this? New guy with some mediocre reads so far who is obviously going to say youre right and crescent is wrong. Hell, Id be saying this town or scum. This post reminds me of Chris when he asked nearly everyone a question through d1. Im trying to learn what I can about the game and this feels kinda pointless, but youve all played a lot of mafia so Im assuming theres a reason for this?