Board 8 > Fire Emblem Engage: Official Release Topic *Tagged Spoilers*

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Panthera posted...

What, you didn't like old classics like "it's chapter 8x and here's a guy that ORKOs your entire team and is basically immune to physical attacks" and "you can't hit this guy", the latter of which is extra funny because you know I'm talking about Binding Blade but you don't know which of seven different guys I might mean?

Sounds more like Conquest tbh, thank God for uhhh, Leo I think, whoever has the skill that lowers enemy evade just by being near them

I don't remember any Conquest bosses being bad to hit except for Kotaro really (and that pre-route split Ninja guy but he's not Conquest exclusive), maybe I'm forgetting somebody but I'm pretty sure there's no one even close to Kel.

I might have just had dogshit SKL because I couldn't hit anyone in that game. Was also playing on a higher difficulty than I did for FE6 though

I really need to read more carefully, I didn't even realize Antitoxins were also vulns. Sold a bunch of them :/

Oh and I just realized there's actually like....a mechanic to the ring polishing. Find the good spot with the A polish and then polish that spot firmly. I was wondering why they always seemed upset about me cleaning it <_<

I'm already looking forward to getting wacky with reclassing on a second playthrough.

Apparently Lapis is a prime target to reclass to Cav, which is good since honestly she was pretty bad in her actual tree, and I gave her plenty of opportunity to not be!

I'm convinced they put various characters in suboptimal starting classes just so you'd feel the need to reclass them. I've also heard that Lapis is one of the best potential Generals in the game since she retains her good Spd growths along with Str and Def; and then Anna has the best Mag growth in the game, despite starting as an Axe Fighter.

Axe Mage Knight Anna is my plan for sure, she her magic can catch up to her strength even when she stays in a Fighter class apparently. REALLY love how they went even further than Path of Radiance did with allowing you to pick promotion weapons. It even keep a sense of identity by having max weapon ranks still effected by the character. Just as a recent example, Goldmary in her default Hero Class has A Swd B Lnc, while my Lapis had A Swd C Lnc (more proof of needing a full Lapis reclass, lol, though her Swordmaster was obviously still S Swords if I had done that)

I'll use Jean next time too, no idea as what, though. I wonder if I his natural growths buff stacks with Tiki....

Sadly it does not seem there's any way to make Vander viable, short of just straight up Second Seal spamming. He holds is own for a few chapters, but he's basically Gunther 2.0.

Jumped right in with hard mode. Am I screwed?

Ultimaterializer posted...

Jumped right in with hard mode. Am I screwed?

on hard? nah, you're fine

I figured normal would be a joke like always. Hard in FE is the new normal.

Whatever Sigurds powers, it wont be the same as Marths.

LUL

Yeah no kidding, friendo.

Chapter 17.

2

Hours

Playing with Japanese voices you notice some weird censorship. Sucks that they removed Louis flirting with Rosado.

Something like that does suck, but funny that nobody has mentioned that change in the dozenish threads I've read. If people were talking about those kinds of alterations I would be more supportive of the complaints in general, but everyone complaining on Twitter only cares that the 11 year old doesn't want to make out with you anymore. Hmmmm I wonder what the key difference is there??

The other romance changes are dumb too. Alear, a 17 year old, can romance characters in their 40s but not other 17 year olds? It's like if P5 had only left in the adult romances or something. Utterly bizarre.

Maybe Alear just should've been 18 from the start and there shouldn't have been any romanceable child characters at all

Apparently that's too difficult though

Why make Alear older when the game's clearly aimed at a younger crowd? Anyway, I was talking about localization changes, not the original game's content, and it's a shame they screwed multiple things up.

I like how the sprites running on the loading screen after a battle only shows the characters that survived the fight. It's cute.

Probably way less so if you are playing on classic lol.

Leif's paralogue ended up being fairly simple once I broke out the staffs and Micaiah shenanigans. Very on brand for a Thracia chapter, though the part where I actually fought enemies was a bit out of place.

More DLC datamining for those interested.

https://serenesforest.net/2023/01/26/fire-emblem-engage-dlc-emblems-characters-classes-placeholders-found-in-version-1-1-0-base-game/

Second Sealed Rosado to give him Swords instead of Lances, went back to promoted level 1 from 7, with no effect on his stats. Looks like there really is no downside whatsoever to second sealing whenever you want. Also means people were right when they said you should just promote at 10 if you can and not wait.

I think (still need to confirm) the only limitation here other than the seals in your inventory/money to buy them is that you can't seal back to level 1 in the same advanced class until you cap it out?

Interesting, seems like Maddening has fixed stat growths? Would be cool to ensure a more balanced playthrough. I've seen people say you can keep those on lower difficulties too if you start Maddening and lower the difficulty, but I'm not sure if that part's true.

I know the fixed growths options unlocks on all difficulties when you beat the game, dunno about the maddening trick.

Considering how these three turned out, I'd rather keep the dice rolls going.

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I think Yunaka's generally considered the best unit in the game, especially if you keep her as a Thief.

My Etie isn't doing so hot statwise, tho.

These shots reminded me of an actual complaint I have that's been bothering me. I can't remember what it was like in 3H, but in the 3DS games I thought the auto equip all function was very reliable for the most part, and felt I could generally use it and then just go.

The auto equip logic in this game is baaaaad, I have no idea why it makes the decisions it does, but it's always fucked up. What would drive it to put the Steel Bow +3 AND the Steel Bow om Etie? And this is the least of it's problems.

Also I think the game needs the option to see a full ring collection list that you can sort by when equipping, instead of having to swap between master emblem lists.

MacArrowny posted...

My Etie isn't doing so hot statwise, tho.

The only character higher than Etie in strength for me right now is Panette, sitting at level 8 natural 32 strength before any buffs.

I knew before the game was even out that she was best girl.

Guess I gotta start getting picky with which Switch profile icons I buy.

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1618660955201867776?s=19

UshiromiyaEva posted...

The auto equip logic in this game is baaaaad, I have no idea why it makes the decisions it does, but it's always fucked up. What would drive it to put the Steel Bow +3 AND the Steel Bow om Etie? And this is the least of it's problems.

This is why Leif is a surprisingly bad Emblem a lot of the time, his Adaptable skill when engaged will make bizarre choices on enemy phase. Notably the game loves going Killer Axe against any lance user, even if there's no benefit to doing it and it tanks your damage and avoid compared to an engraved forged weapon you wanted to use.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Guess I gotta start getting picky with which Switch profile icons I buy.

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1618660955201867776?s=19

Ugh, I want these but they feel way too low effort to pay $8 shipping on. Would honestly prefer if it was just like, a single enamel pin instead.

I don't consider myself to be amazing at these games or anything, far from it. However, I've got so much recent experience that I'm running into a problem where I'm watching people stream Engage and all I can do is dissect every single wrong decision they make as it happens, lol.

I can't stress enough how much getting rid of weapon experience has made the multiclassing system so much better.

For that and various other reasons, something I honestly hated for the most part in Awakening and Fates and frankly wanted reversed feels like a huge advancement to the system now.

Don't know why I didn't think that Skill Inheritance worked like upgrading, and buying a tier of buff skill reduces that cost from the next tier (example, if you buy Avoid +10, it take that cost out of Avoid+15). I've been avoiding buying ANYTHING to save up, lol.

Of course now I'm just buying almost everyone Canter, so.....

Also I warp skipped this FE8 map both playthroughs, so this is my first time actually playing it lol.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Of course now I'm just buying almost everyone Canter, so.....

I could try to get some combination of skills that will help a unit fulfill their specific role

Or I could have everyone get to move around more!

Yeah Canter for everyone is the way

I wonder which DLC Emblem will end up giving the Mov+ Skills. You know it's coming!

I wonder why they took out the zoomed in camera option that was in 3H? Obviously it isn't a modeling issue, you walk through all these maps after the fact.

Must have been a performance problem. I neve rushed it in 3H but I'd like to have used it here!

I broke down and bought the DLC.

I love the 3H trio so much.

I am going to marry this woman.

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Panette turned from a person I deployed as total filler because Louis finally started taking too much damage to be a tank and I had no other ideas on who to use besides Pandreo and I had a lot of staff users already into one of my core units, she doesn't double much but her damage output is absolutely insane. Reclassed her to Warrior so she can use Longbow to murder at three range and also chain attack more and she's mostly not even been relying on any Emblem shenanigans to do it. I can only imagine putting Lyn on her would be the most absurd offense ever.

Having to strategically set up a good 10 units to surround a boss including a mix of 1, 2, and 3 range characters, proper attack order, chain setups, and proper Canto planning.

Some good boss fighting, my dudes.

I've had to surround bosses with 10 units before in other FE games, but that wasn't because of good boss mechanics, it was because I had hit rates in the 10s to 30s and just kept MISSING their ass on stupid HEAL THRONES.

Got up to Chapter 11.

I had a feeling that I might lose my rings. Anti-shoutout to Alfred having 974 SP before this chapter. I did 1 skirmish and he ended up at 995 SP. Jesus. I hate skirmishes so much that I didn't bother to do a second one. That said, I'm likely benching Alfred so it's all moot. Also, really regretting not making all my units gain Level 5 proficiency with Leif so that they have more promotion options.

One thing I noticed that Engage does is that the new units they give you are pretty dang good. Usually, I try to stick to my starting crew and maybe pick up a new unit every now and then when one isn't working out. In Engage, I feel like I have to revaluate my entire crew each time I pick up a new unit. Definitely makes me want to do a second playthrough, which I will probably do once all the DLC is out.

Diamant/Timerra B Support.

A thing of legends.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I've had to surround bosses with 10 units before in other FE games, but that wasn't because of good boss mechanics, it was because I had hit rates in the 10s to 30s and just kept MISSING their ass on stupid HEAL THRONES.

Then there's the chapter 2 and 3 bosses in Shadow Dragon on H5, where you can't surround them because they kill nearly everyone, but you also struggle to hit them or do damage when you do until you just accept you're using the map saves to reset for Killing Edge crits because the only "good" alternative is using fort healing for infinite longevity as you eventually break their hand axe.

So are Skirmishes levels based on your Alear's level?

Yeah, it makes for a difficult time if you want to go back and level lower level units. Not sure what the solution there is just yet, other than cheesing it and spamming Micaiah Great Sacrifice for free levelups.

If you trap and archer on a map with a lot of puddles you can go nuts with it (unless you can't Sacrifice when everyone is at full, I haven't tested that.)

Continuing tales of broken Panette.

She's broken with Sigurd but also broken with Lyn in a different way. But honestly even more broken with Ike.

The moral of the story is that Panette is always supreme.

It's funny that she's honestly pretty lame on her join map!

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Continuing tales of broken Panette.

She's broken with Sigurd but also broken with Lyn in a different way. But honestly even more broken with Ike.

The moral of the story is that Panette is always supreme.

It's funny that she's honestly pretty lame on her join map!

I've been tempted to try out the Silver Greataxe Great Aether trick and Panette does seem like the best candidate for it, Ike's absurd passives should be enough to cover her low defenses against most enemy groups

She was only taking 2 to 3 damage a hit while GAing when I through her into a huge pile of enemies early. It's not as good as the 0 damage Timerra was taking, but still. The obvious risk is from chain attacks, but her health bar is enormous she still holds out.

That same health pool also makes her a beast with Ike's Wrath + Killer Axe as well as well, since the way Wrath works in this game is that you gain +1 crit for every HP you're missing from your max, plus the natural extra crit from Berserker. It caps at +30 Wrath, but that's not even half her health.

MacArrowny posted...

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Alear is such a nerd I love it.