Board 8 > Fire Emblem Engage: Official Release Topic *Tagged Spoilers*

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UshiromiyaEva
01/27/23 5:49:28 PM
#201:


I do not understand Celine's stats.

Why is she just good at everything? Why does she have high defense, attack, magic, and speed?

Why is her only weakness resistance, of all things? This has actually almost fucked me because I ASSUMED she would have good res.

She must be hiding armor plating under than giant dress.

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Panthera
01/27/23 6:07:28 PM
#202:


For me Celine is pretty sketchy in terms of stats at this point, she was a star early on with Celica powers but at some point her level ups became awful. She's one of my highest level people and yet she's not fast enough to double anything but generals, has unimpressive magic (Chloe has almost caught up to her in magic by now), has no defense and her HP sucks too much for her decent resistance to matter. She's a staffbot that can chip stuff now, nothing more.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/27/23 6:10:09 PM
#203:


The miracle of FE then! Gotta play it by ear, see how the stats fail. For me, Alfred, Jade, Chloe, Lapis and Folgatto all shit the bed and had to bench. Meanwhile Etie has nearly caught up to Panette in STR, and that's NOT a slight in Panette's Str growth. I gave Etie Sigurd now and it's incredible.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/27/23 8:41:35 PM
#204:


Finally looked up the full growth list.

https://serenesforest.net/engage/characters/growth-rates/

.....Swordmaster Celine next time??


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TheRock1525
01/27/23 9:12:04 PM
#205:


Celine is way too overdesigned so I'll never end up using her.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/27/23 11:58:13 PM
#206:


In what can only amount to karma, I have decided to stick with Roy on Alear.

TheRock1525 posted...
Celine is way too overdesigned so I'll never end up using her.

If you reclass her she loses most of that, at least I assume!

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Panthera
01/28/23 3:11:25 AM
#207:


And that's it, Engage officially beaten on my end!

My initial final impressions, if that makes any sense, are that my concerns pre-release that Engage would be underwhelming were unwarranted because this playthrough was a blast. I'll have to see how Maddening feels but I suspect this ends up in the New Mystery/Conquest category as far as gameplay goes, no maps really stood out as bad and a lot were great. Chapter 17 is definitely going to go down as a great Fire Emblem map, and in general some of the gimmicks the maps throw out are great, especially with how some bosses abuse Emblem shenanigans against you during the mid to late game. It does get a bit tiring fighting the same bosses so much though. As far as the story goes, it's pretty generic but not really bad and manages to have some fairly solid scenes here and there, helped by the good voice acting for Alear who is way more likable than I was expecting. I'll need some time to look back on it but I could actually see this game breaking into my top three for the series, which I never dreamed I'd even be considering.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/28/23 12:56:08 PM
#208:


Unit + Class growth rate calculator (column X has the drop downs)

Full unit list spoilers obviously.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1nSbBEfNY53KOTSVPjciCdh7mrjZrcnC9UV7bDEeWFug/htmlview

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UshiromiyaEva
01/28/23 12:56:49 PM
#209:


Panthera posted...
And that's it, Engage officially beaten on my end!

Really hoping I can go all out on these 2 days off after today.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/29/23 9:50:33 PM
#210:


Chapter 21 and 22

Jesus what a ride

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UshiromiyaEva
01/29/23 11:22:50 PM
#211:


Only now as I'm spamming gifts for A supports am I realizing that not everyone is always at the Somniel.

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TheRock1525
01/30/23 4:06:01 AM
#212:


So I haven't gotten to their supports yet, but, uh, the way Rosado and Goldmary talk makes me think they have a... unique relationship.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/30/23 3:14:14 PM
#213:


Chapter 24 introduction.

I can't BELEIVE this is the truth of that opening cutscene. I had completely forgotten about my confusion at the intro.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/30/23 7:18:33 PM
#214:


Had to stop for a bit, but I'm sitting on the deployment screen for the final chapter (I assume)

What a fucking game.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/30/23 10:27:21 PM
#215:


DUNZO

Fuck yes.

This is definitely top 3 in the franchise but I don't know exactly where yet.

I'll have more thoughts later.

I'm going to need a ZIP of all these credit pictures yesterday.

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MacArrowny
01/31/23 12:59:09 AM
#216:


Man, it's so silly how the localizers won't let anyone say god

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UshiromiyaEva
01/31/23 2:12:26 AM
#217:


So I guess just to get the bad stuff out of the way.

Supports outside of Alears are too hard to earn. You can spend half the game focusing to get one pair to A.

Somniel isnt great. I like the look and feel, but its mostly near worthless activities, and theres only one activity to reliably raise supports in cooking, which is just one at a time. Arena works fine, but its still random. Excersize serves no point on normal or hard, and the people who play maddening are going to hate that kind of thing to begin with. Also the clothing stuff is just a big swing an a miss, don't know why these couldn't have been in supports at least. As a huge fan of Greg Mach, Somniel is a letdown.

Theres some iffy UI choices, mainly Bond Leveling and Skill Inheritance being different rooms with a loading screen between them, and not being able to forge from the deploy screen. Also the recommended level stuff is broken, since its based on internal level and not displayed level. Once you start promoting units, those numbers dont gel unless you promoted at 20, which you shouldnt be doing.

I spent most of the game thinking the economy was fucked, but realized that you shouldnt bother putting a ton of money into nation investments unless youre going to be doing a ton of skirmishes, and I got everything to level 3 and did.2 skirmishes, so yeah I did that to myself.

It seems like an oversight that your fucked out of Magic and staff proficiency for a huge middle chunk of the game.

And uh..checking my notes..yeah thats it. I like everything else about the game.

Its clearly not controversial to say the gameplay here is great. I dont know how controversial its going to be to say its the series best. This is of course based on hard mode, I cant speak for maddening players. Removing permanently earning sills from classes to destroy just about any incentive to go through a bunch of different classes on one unit basically saved the entire second seal system to me, after hating it in Awakening and not loving it in Fates. I can so easily change my class on the fly and theres no penalty, no excess effort I have to go through, and unless Im changing from a Berserker to a Sage or something I likely wont have screwed my growths over. The Unit/Class growth split is thankfully very alive here. Even though everyone can do everything, everyone still feels unique.

Maps are excellent, OK at worst, across the board. There wasnt a single time where one didnt work for me, even t he most draining, multi hour maps were a ride.

The story here is totally fine, good even? Often cheesy but in a good way, and with some genuinely strong points. Its certainly better on that front than any of the 3DS games. It without a doubt puts its worst foot forward, with the first 7 or 8 chapters not really getting me invested as much (which unfortunately was the entire preview chunk of the game). It was enough that while going into chapter 10 I was hunkering Diamant having been the main lord of the game instead. By the end though I was complete on board. The Hounds are a ton of fun and they really brought it al together for me. Some people Ive seem complain you fight them too much, but thats what makes it work!

It's getting late so Im starting to lose track here, but yeah, I absolutely adored my time here and have already stated another playthrough. Not going to fuck up and promote at 30 this time either lol.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/31/23 3:50:05 PM
#218:


Wait

You can use tonics from the deploy menu???

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MacArrowny
01/31/23 10:22:47 PM
#219:


Does Anna have two moms who are lesbian Annas?

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UshiromiyaEva
01/31/23 10:43:52 PM
#220:


If only.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/31/23 10:44:59 PM
#221:


My second playthrough Alear has gained strength every single levelups and it's fucking with me.

By level 10 in my first playthrough she'd gained 2 points.

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MacArrowny
01/31/23 11:16:06 PM
#222:


Is there anywhere online I can see what every character looks like in every class? Would rather not do all the promotes manually...

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Kenri
02/01/23 6:33:29 PM
#223:


So Target threw my SE into the ocean and told me to fuck off but after a couple days of trying I've managed to get one from Amazon. Unfortunately even at retail price it's still $10 more than I was paying at Target and it'll probably be damaged when it shows up based on what other people who ordered from Amazon have said.

This makes me 3 for 3 on snagging SEs from Amazon after release since I did it with Fates and Echoes too

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UshiromiyaEva
02/01/23 6:35:53 PM
#224:


I will say that my Amazon order of the SE came in immaculately, so there's hope.

Artbook is gorgeous too. It's purely an art book, no writeups or anything, but it's super extensive. Even has full page detailed breakdowns of all the unique character mounts.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/01/23 6:36:14 PM
#225:


MacArrowny posted...
Is there anywhere online I can see what every character looks like in every class? Would rather not do all the promotes manually...

Been looking but no luck so far, I imagine that may be a ways off.

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TheRock1525
02/01/23 9:11:09 PM
#226:


I believe the outfits are the same from character to character so whatever Alear looks like in one outfit will be the same for people of the game gender.

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Ultimaterializer
02/01/23 10:49:44 PM
#227:


Its dawned on me that almost every single thing between fights is pointless. The Somniel is just not very interesting.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/02/23 12:25:42 AM
#228:


Fishing for the Olwen S Ring.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/9/AAeolZAAEJQZ.jpg

FUCK OFF WITH THAT!

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UshiromiyaEva
02/02/23 12:27:05 PM
#229:


I feel like Bunet is gonna end up the least used unit once the stats come out.

There's nothing wrong with the guy, but that's my gut.

Also I somehow managed to get enough Olwen rings to fuse up to Platinum without any save stage shenanigans after about 11 pulls on Leif.

Now I just need like....12k bond points and change....

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MacArrowny
02/02/23 12:43:41 PM
#230:


Fun fact: none of the cooking, training, and Tonic stat bonuses stack. So training is pretty much pointless!

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UshiromiyaEva
02/02/23 12:53:27 PM
#231:


I mean I would have thought that even if they DID stack, the training sucks! I do them just to get the SSS ranks on file, not because I care lol.

Though if you train for a different stat than you got with cooking, that's still viable.

That's just Maddening tech, though, even on Hard mode it really doesn't matter unless your Alear is just totally fucked.

Which can happen of course! I'm watching Mekkah play and his Alear promoted at 12/2 has 11 Strength, and my unpromoted level 15 Alear has 15 Strength. In the first playthrough, though, I had 14 Strength at level 17 before promoting....AFTER an Energy Drop, so really I'd only gotten to 12.

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Hades
02/02/23 1:02:10 PM
#232:


I don't know if it's a hidden passive effect for him or what, but I feel like it's no coincidence Bunet has been the only unit to cook S+ rank meals for me so far.
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UshiromiyaEva
02/02/23 4:46:49 PM
#233:


Dawn Engrave on a +5 Minibow for Alcryst, next level dodge tank.

Reliable sub 20% hit rate from enemies with 1 range counter.

And since the game considers the Minibow to be trash, it's dirt cheap.

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MacArrowny
02/03/23 12:08:21 AM
#234:


And now I see they cut out the ending where you can make lesbian babies too? Sigh, shame 8-4 didn't work on this.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/03/23 1:15:31 AM
#235:


I refuse to not use Panette on this playthrough even though I used her last time. I at least need to reclass her, though I hate to lose that outfit.

Wyvern Rider? I have no other fliers except Ivy this run and I don't think Goldmary is a good fit for one.

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TheRock1525
02/03/23 1:33:03 AM
#236:


Is it just me or is this music kinda unremarkable? Not saying it's bad, it's perfectly fine. Just no standout tracks.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/03/23 1:42:37 AM
#237:


Music is some of the best we've gotten! Matter of opinion of course.

Bright Sandstorm still never gets old, throw that shit on a loop.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/03/23 2:08:38 AM
#238:


3 turned 12, that's some goooooood shit.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/5/AAeolZAAEJcX.jpg

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TheRock1525
02/03/23 2:52:49 AM
#239:


Still waiting for a Tearing through Heaven or Chasing Daybreak to make me go "God damn let's do this shit."

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skullbone
02/03/23 3:14:03 AM
#240:


I'm currently at Chapter 17, 21 hours and I think I'm realizing I just don't like Fire Emblem.

I didn't like Three Houses very much and this game isn't doing it for me either.

Every battle boils down to sitting just outside aggro range, drawing enemies in, and then blasting them down.

I probably should have played on Hard Casual instead of Normal Classic since I time crystal anytime anyone dies anyway but that feels like it would have been way too easy.

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MacArrowny
02/03/23 11:15:50 AM
#241:


I thought Tear Streaked (Ice), the chapter 10 music, was pretty great. But one of the cool things about Engage's music is how the tracks are dynamic and change throughout the battle, which I guess doesn't come across as well when listening to them on their own.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/03/23 11:21:37 AM
#242:


Chapter 10 track is excellent.

The track flow throughout the game between Calm and Fiery (Rain/Thunder in 3H, though I guess in this one they have different terms for the different regions? ) is fantastic, and can't really be recreated in out of game listening no matter how good the mix is.

I don't think any battle track here surpasses Fodlan Winds, but I think the soundtrack on average is better.

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Kenri
02/03/23 6:49:45 PM
#243:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I will say that my Amazon order of the SE came in immaculately, so there's hope.
You spoke it into reality lol, it showed up with zero damage.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/03/23 10:09:26 PM
#244:


Niccccce

Speaking of deliveries!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/9/1/AAeolZAAEJmT.jpg

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mnk
02/03/23 10:37:13 PM
#245:


Got around to starting this yesterday, through Chapter 4. Story and characters are definitely not great so far. I'm only playing on Normal/Casual, but I'm still annoyed at my bad level ups so far. The only one who's really gotten any Str/Mag boosts is the girl twin getting two Str boosts by level 4, lol. Alear's gotten 1 Str boost in four levels, and I don't think anyone else has gotten any yet (granted there haven't exactly been many level ups in general).

Funniest moment was doing Alear/Marth's first bond conversation and being bewildered at how pointless it was.

Wandering the battlefield after battle is kinda neat, but most of the after-battle dialogue is barely a step up from recent Pokemon NPC dialogue. Just short little blurbs of no real interest. =/

Hoping it'll improve, because this isn't the greatest first impression. Maybe I shouldn't have played this so close after doing two runs of Triangle Strategy.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/03/23 10:47:13 PM
#246:


I have not been able to get to mission 2 of Triangle Strategy yet because I just can't force myself through the boring characters and cutscenes lol, so I think our situations are reversed.

I do think the opening chapters of Engage are by far it's weakest story wise. Says something that I'm still here 13 chapters into a second playthrough right now purely to try out new units, though.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/04/23 12:01:04 AM
#247:


Realized Panette's natural weapon is actually DAGGERS, not axes, and given the backstory...decided to get nutty.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/9/0/AAeolZAAEJn2.jpg

Which means Zelkov is going Wyvern Knight, which should be interesting.


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UshiromiyaEva
02/04/23 12:06:04 AM
#248:


Man you really do gotta get the supports to judge these characters at all.

I didn't get a single support with Pandreo last time and thought he was some pious pretty boy.

I didn't know he was Cooler Yamcha. Unleash the wolf! AROOOOOO!

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MacArrowny
02/04/23 1:13:16 AM
#249:


aroo is bad

not like the JP version is much better, but it's still bad

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KamikazePotato
02/04/23 1:16:46 AM
#250:


The Fire Emblem subreddit brigading Engage's metacritic score because they're salty about the low user rating is kinda funny

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