Board 8 > Fire Emblem Engage: Official Release Topic *Tagged Spoilers*

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UshiromiyaEva
01/16/23 7:30:30 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/9/AAeolZAAEGKv.jpg

https://www.nintendo.com/ph/switch/ayfn/index.html

ALL SPOILERS IN THIS TOPIC MUST BE TAGGED

Leaks are pouring out, and I would appreciate if discussion of those is avoided even with the the spoiler tags.

Engage's release is just a few days away! A lot of content has been shown pre-release, but there's plenty we don't know, so tread lightly.

Feel free to post your thoughts or hopes going into the game's launch and beyond, and let's all have a good time with the game's release! With over double Three Houses preorder numbers, it's gonna be a big one.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/4/1/AAeolZAAEGKx.jpg

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 9:12:09 AM
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Embargo has lifted.

https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/fire-emblem-engage

It looks like the game is putting a much larger focus in gameplay over the social sim aspects, which lines up with early impressions from the last couple weeks.

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Panthera
01/17/23 9:31:49 AM
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With all the insanely busted stuff we've seen the players have access to, this game is either going to be a cakewalk or its highest difficulty is going to murder you seventeen times a day if you don't break it like you've never broken anything before

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SHINE_GET_64
01/17/23 9:42:21 AM
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you can tell there's two types of reviews out there

the older FE fans that are rating it higher and the ones who came in with Awakening or Three Houses that are rating it lower

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MysteriousStan
01/17/23 10:26:27 AM
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SHINE_GET_64 posted...
you can tell there's two types of reviews out there

the older FE fans that are rating it higher and the ones who came in with Awakening or Three Houses that are rating it lower
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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 11:22:06 AM
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I'm seeing Three Houses comparisons specifically as the absolute sticking point for the lower ones. Based on pure sales numbers, it's clear that for a lot of people Three Houses was not only their first FE, but their ONLY FE, and they see 3H as the end all be all. "Fire Emblem wasn't worth playing until this one, and the games need to be like this moving forward".

I loved Three Houses to death, still one of my favorite games, but it can be so much more than that. It's also clear that the forced Monestary integration was a turn off to a lot of longtime fans, and they couldn't keep forcing such an aspect into all future games. It's not something I would PERSONALLY mind of course, I loved the Monestary, but I'm wierd.

That said, it's still mostly very strong reviews, so it's kind of a moot point.

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MacArrowny
01/17/23 11:30:09 AM
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Reviews seem about in line with Shadow Dragon on the DS. Hope it ends up a bit better than that.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
Based on pure sales numbers, it's clear that for a lot of people Three Houses was not only their first FE, but their ONLY FE
3H didn't sell that much better than Awakening or Fates. https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 11:36:05 AM
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.8-1.5 million more isn't a lot more??

Even that difference in Fates to 3H is more than the total sales numbers of MOST games in the series. The difference in Fates and 3H's sales is nearly the entirety of FE7's sales numbers!

That's a 40% increase in the case of Awakening.

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TheManaSword
01/17/23 11:39:03 AM
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As much as I liked Three Houses, I'm excited that this one reverts back a bit more to the traditional Fire Emblem formula. The Monastery stuff did get a little tedious.

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MacArrowny
01/17/23 11:54:19 AM
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Did people find the monastery stuff tedious on the first playthrough? I feel like it only got old due to playing the game multiple times.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
.8-1.5 million more isn't a lot more??
Not compared to the Switch boosts other series got...

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TheManaSword
01/17/23 11:57:24 AM
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I definitely began to tire of it during my first playthrough.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 11:59:11 AM
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I think that's a tough number to nail down when the game that *actually* came before 3 Houses comparatively tanked at around 750k. Was that Fates backlash, bad marketing, bad timing? I don't LOVE Echoes, it's fairly low on my list, but it's still shocking to see such a dip.

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Axl_Rose_85
01/17/23 11:59:19 AM
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82 for a modern mainline Fire Emblem game is not great. Haven't even played the Fates games which reviewed much better because of the really bad things I heard about the storyline. I'm buying this for sure like I buy most video games but gonna wait to see the consensus on the story and characters before I dig in.
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SomeKindOfJoke
01/17/23 12:04:20 PM
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I didnt even finish one playthrough of 3H because of how tedious the monastery became toward the end.

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Kenri
01/17/23 2:33:49 PM
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MacArrowny posted...
Reviews seem about in line with Shadow Dragon on the DS. Hope it ends up a bit better than that.
not even in my wildest dreams is this game better than shadow dragon so i hope you're right

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 2:44:29 PM
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Aggregate review scores don't really have any value unless it's, like, a yearly sports release, or you're a publisher looking for an excuse to kill your employee's payment bonuses. Objectivity doesn't exist, you gotta know what the reviewer likes in the first place and what they had to say.

The pains of a Tales fan.

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TheRock1525
01/17/23 2:47:38 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJCOoTp6v5I&ab_channel=NintendoofAmerica

FIRE EMBLEM FOR ALL

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 2:49:13 PM
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I swear I CANNOT handle the generic Nintendo lady English video narrator.

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TheRock1525
01/17/23 2:53:36 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I swear I CANNOT handle the generic Nintendo lady English video narrator.

Really? I love her. She's adorable.

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Panthera
01/17/23 5:42:24 PM
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MacArrowny posted...
Did people find the monastery stuff tedious on the first playthrough? I feel like it only got old due to playing the game multiple times.

I find the monastery tedious if I do multiple playthroughs in relatively short succession, or towards the end of any given playthrough. The last couple chapters the monastery pretty much always ends up feeling a bit superfluous.

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andylt
01/17/23 6:38:00 PM
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I don't have very much interest in this (weak story bah) but hopefully the presence of past lords is an indicator of some upcoming much needed remakes.

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KamikazePotato
01/17/23 6:41:32 PM
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The FE4 remake is essentially confirmed.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 6:44:14 PM
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Indeed, the person who leaked all the 100% confirmed Engage content months before announcement, including screenshots of early builds, has stated that Geneology Remake is already in the works and not even necessarily far away.

I'd say the only way it wouldn't come out is if it gets canned internally for some reason. Or they were just lying, but I don't see why they would.

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KamikazePotato
01/17/23 6:47:45 PM
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Honestly even without that, you could just look at how Sigurd was promoted heavily when Engage was revealed. There's a reason they did that.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 6:50:20 PM
#25:


Sigurd supremacy.

https://twitter.com/GrimaceDuMinace/status/1614480794981900288?s=19

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KamikazePotato
01/17/23 6:54:15 PM
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Interesting bit of trivia.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/10ekbdm/based_on_fire_emblem_engages_credits_almost_no/

Comparing Engage's credits with Three Houses' credits is interesting, because it looks like almost no one from Three Houses worked on Engage.

Based on the credits, Three Houses and Engage don't share the same writers - and it makes sense since Three Houses was written by Koei Tecmo (a fact a lot of FE fans don't even know).

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 6:56:48 PM
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It makes me wonder if KT will be heavily involved with FE4R.

Which, given FE4....would actually make a lot of sense??

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KamikazePotato
01/17/23 6:58:58 PM
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If we're assuming that FE now has two teams, then based on development timing the KT team would have to be the one doing FE4.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 7:00:05 PM
#29:


Could also explain why there's no Three Hopes DLC in sight even though the game was very successful, I imagine they're busy!

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MacArrowny
01/17/23 7:09:13 PM
#30:


KamikazePotato posted...
If we're assuming that FE now has two teams, then based on development timing the KT team would have to be the one doing FE4.
The main IS team is working on Heroes I think

KamikazePotato posted...
Based on the credits, Three Houses and Engage don't share the same writers -
For some reason I thought most FE games brought in external writers. I remember them advertising that with Fates

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skullbone
01/17/23 7:17:47 PM
#31:


Three Houses was my first, and only, Fire Emblem game and I didn't like it very much. The Monastery stuff was a chore by the end and honestly the combat is a little too easy sometimes.

Pre-ordered this game today based on the reviews because it seems to be moving away from the Monastery stuff and maybe better combat.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 7:22:44 PM
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MacArrowny posted...
For some reason I thought most FE games brought in external writers. I remember them advertising that with Fates

Conquest and Birthright were written by Kobayashi who I don't really know (Get Backers I have hear did at least, but no idea what it is), and they got the Senran Kagura person for Revelations, which as far as I'm concerned should have resulted in prison time for all involved.

I think in all 3 cases though they gut well over 50% of the supplied content, if sources are to be believed.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/17/23 10:30:05 PM
#33:


Apparently the Games Radar reviewer has had to lock their Twitter. People are the worst.

It's a pretty bad review, but there are some high review scores that are also not written particularly well, and it wouldn't matter regardless.

Unless a review is plagiarized, intentionally malicious, or they slip up and reveal they never actually played the game (which I think happened with am FE game once?), there's never an excuse to harass a reviewer.

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KamikazePotato
01/17/23 10:31:46 PM
#34:


Years later, we live in the shadow of 8.8/10.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/18/23 11:22:32 AM
#35:


https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/1615712996986167296?s=19

They went nearly 1 to 1 on all of Mika's final designs except they put their foot down on the black anime character with blonde/white hair trope, lol.

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Kenri
01/18/23 2:26:34 PM
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honestly they made the right call on that one

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UshiromiyaEva
01/19/23 12:00:16 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/6/AAbVz1AADnRg.png

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UshiromiyaEva
01/19/23 4:29:17 PM
#38:


One thing that never bother me is music spoilers, so I've been digging pretty heavily into the OST. Obviously not posting any of that here.

It's uh....REALLY good. I know music for a game that's specifically going out of it's way to remix the best tracks from the entire franchise has no business NOT being good, but even given high expectations it's pretty wildly high quality.

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Ultimaterializer
01/19/23 4:42:02 PM
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Couldn't be more hyped. I remember before 3H when I was worried about the high school dating sim bit, then ended up loving it to death. Now that we're getting a huge focus on combat and less on everything else, I think I'm going to miss the "everything else". 99% sure I'll still love this game anyway, but still.

Oh and LTM I truly am sorry if I was ever a dick to you. You didn't deserve any of that junk and it will never happen again. I come with nothing but love.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/19/23 8:41:08 PM
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https://twitter.com/SerenesForest/status/1616246198406447107?s=19

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greengravy294
01/19/23 8:42:28 PM
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n-gage

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MacArrowny
01/19/23 8:46:16 PM
#42:


Can you be gay in this? Is there a list of the gay/bi girls/boys?

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UshiromiyaEva
01/19/23 8:49:39 PM
#43:


MacArrowny posted...
Can you be gay in this? Is there a list of the gay/bi girls/boys?

There are 15 explicitly romantic S-Links and none of them are gender locked. 8 females and 7 males. Alear can actually S-Link anyone, but the remainder are platonic.

Yes, this does mean Female Alear technically has more gay options than straight.

Yes, this is something I openly searched for and didn't care if I was spoiled about lol.

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MacArrowny
01/19/23 8:51:37 PM
#44:


that is amazing thanks (I don't consider that to be spoilers heh)

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UshiromiyaEva
01/19/23 8:55:06 PM
#45:


As for the specific list of romantic vs platonic, I've seen it but lost it, and am a bit paranoid to be seeking it out this close to release.

From what I recall it should be a obvious seperation, thogh.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/19/23 8:55:48 PM
#46:


https://twitter.com/SerenesForest/status/1616242732070236161?s=19

Man I gotta remember to do this for SIX weeks this time? I almost forgot on week 4 for XB3!

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mnk
01/19/23 8:59:15 PM
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Saw the list and my first choice for husbando is cited as a romantic S-rank, so woohoo! That's an upgrade from Three Houses, at least.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/19/23 9:03:00 PM
#48:


What you don't like Linhardt, the most popular Three Houses character who everyone adores??

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MacArrowny
01/19/23 9:03:46 PM
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Now I wonder if characters can be gay with each other... I assume they can at least romance.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/19/23 9:05:39 PM
#50:


I know there's no in game S rank aside from your Alear pairing, but I don't know about, like, ending credit scrawl "where are they now" stuff. They often sneak character pairing in there.

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