Board 8 > Fire Emblem Engage: Official Release Topic *Tagged Spoilers*

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Etie Goldmary B feels like they're about to start throwing blows then makeout on the floor.

MacArrowny posted...

I would say Micaiah's map is too easy though, considering the air of despair the original had

OK so this wasn't just me. I fucking obliterated this map lol.

I'm most of the way through my second playthrough and I'd I had to pick ONE thing I'm not a fan of, it's the miasma. Maybe because it doesn't really feel as justified as I would like in the narrative, and feels more "gamey" than what is a shockingly well-integrated map to narrative standard for most of the game.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Etie Goldmary B feels like they're about to start throwing blows the makeouts on the floor.

oh my favorite ship dynamic

Also I'm like

100% confident I would do a 3rd playthrough after this if I didn't have so much backlog.

Maybe I'll do one more between this and the 4th DLC wave just to know what Normal Mode is like, use the rest of the characters I haven't touched, like Cook Man or Alpaca Man or Samurai Man.

I think those are the only 3 characters I never fielded once past their recruitment.

Gonna watch all the supports on YouTube once this run is over, though.

God it's gonna be impossible to get into Berwick Saga anytime soon after this lol.

Direct tomorrow means it's officially time to start getting upset every time they don't mention FE4R even though they won't acknowledge it exists for like a year minimum.

What happened to the FE6R rumors? I remember those were all the rage for a while.

Also wonder if the remake will be Switch or Switch 2.

FE6 rumors exist, but FE4 rumors came out alongside Engage beta screenshots, so there's just a lot more weight there.

I also don't think they'd seperately remake FE6 and 7. I know that they should but I don't think they would.

I actually expect FE6 to just be an FE1 style Eshop drop if I'm being honest. "Translated for the first time".

Not to be negative but I'm like an hour into Engage so far and this game was definitely made by the Fates team, huh.

It's using the Fates animation studio for the cutscenes which definitely contributes to that initial feel.

Kenri posted...

Not to be negative but I'm like an hour into Engage so far and this game was definitely made by the Fates team, huh.

Different lead writers! Assuming you're talking about what I think you are.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/9/AAeolZAAEKXB.jpg

MacArrowny posted...

Different lead writers! Assuming you're talking about what I think you are.

We probably are, though I also meant the gameplay.

First chapter in Firene was a big improvement though so I cautiously retract my negativity. Even the voice acting on the newest recruits is better!

Oh if gameplay is your worry then you can relax there. I say with complete confidence that this is the best gameplay in the series. Any worry I had that I may just be giving in to recency bias has pretty much been eliminated.

Nelucce is a great boss. I love the FE trope of "minor slimebag antagonist who is incredibly (and 100% unjustifiably) smug and confident in his own abilities".

I'm not quite sure why he escaped only to die three minutes later in a cutscene but whatever.

Not at all impressed with the seemingly more major antagonists so far but it's still early.

Kenri posted...

Nelucce is a great boss. I love the FE trope of "minor slimebag antagonist who is incredibly (and 100% unjustifiably) smug and confident in his own abilities".

This trope is consistently great, but it also somehow peaked in the Mission 2 of the first game ever released in the US

Hard to top a Level 3 Mercenary literally named Glass talking about how the gods fear his swordplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3oBYZK1HJQ&ab_channel=FandomGames

Corrupted Wyrms on Maddening are fucking nasty holy hell. Barely anyone can even do decent damage to them, you have to treat them like bosses with chain attack set ups, Alear's personal skill to ensure at least 3 damage per hit and possibly Engage skills to handle them.

KamikazePotato posted...

Hard to top a Level 3 Mercenary literally named Glass talking about how the gods fear his swordplay

FE9 "Shoulda gotten some baby hostages" says hello.

DLC Wave 2 is OUT today lol.

Why did they pick Camilla's Birthright map instead of Conquest Chapter 10? Literally picked the worst Birthright map over the best Conquest map.

I was too busy typing to notice the maps lol.

Mewtwo59 posted...

Why did they pick Camilla's Birthright map instead of Conquest Chapter 10? Literally picked the worst Birthright map over the best Conquest map.

why did they pick camilla at all instead of almost anyone else

(just kidding, I know why)

UshiromiyaEva posted...

DLC Wave 2 is OUT today lol.

Oh shit, what's the DLC?

Yeah, it looks like Hector gets Armads cave (I think from FE7), Soren gets the lava map from RD, and Veronica gets some floating land map (I guess that's something in Heroes?). They didn't show Chrom & Robin's map, but my guess is that it'd be the Validar map.

Them making this stuff DLC instead of including it with the game is really shitty (these first two waves specifically, not the later stuff).

So is it already out right now?

Out now, just booted up.

Not part of the DLC I think, so I assume it unlocks at some point well before where my second playthrough is at, but they add 3 recreation events to the Somniel to build supports between allies. This solves one of my biggest problems with the game!

The DLC Wave gives you a bunch of SP books, Silver weapons, and bond points.

Just started chapter 7. I liked Jean better when he was named Tony Tony Chopper, and I liked Alcryst and Hortensia better, uh, when they weren't in the game yet.

why is lapis red and pink instead of blue. what a weird decision.

Hortensia supremacy!!

Oh my God.

https://twitter.com/hresvelgers/status/1623502368133328897?s=19

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Oh my God.

https://twitter.com/hresvelgers/status/1623502368133328897?s=19

Is that a reference to something? I don't get it

Soren has never had fun in his life and he's not about to start now.

Oh I like Morion and Saphir. This probably means neither is playable and at least one will die but for now I like them. Amber is super cute but unfortunately I don't like him at all so to the bench he goes.

Why is Leif the Sage Lord? he's not even a sage

Chapter 8 was good but it really feels like it should've been a defend chapter. I mean it kind of was but making it defeat boss means they can't lay on as much pressure as if it was defend for X turns.

Alfred was my first promotion. Emblem Sigurd is insanely good and on Alfred it feels almost unfair. On the other hand Alear+Marth are kinda falling behind even at level 10 bond. Thus are the perils of sword infantry I guess. Diamant likely gonna get benched for the same reason.

Probably gonna do the second paralogue before heading to chapter 9.

Of the new paralogues Soren's was tough, Hector's was relatively simple, and I'm only two turns into Camilla's but I can tell it is not going to be fun because the frame rate is hot garbage on this map

Oh I saw that "35 turns expected" before the map and turned alllllll animations off for that shit lol.

Kenri posted...

On the other hand Alear+Marth are kinda falling behind even at level 10 bond. Thus are the perils of sword infantry I guess. Diamant likely gonna get benched for the same reason.

You should look at their promotion weapons unlocks and ranks before making those judgments!

When I do tackle another playthrough, it's going to be very interesting comparing these DLC maps when they're scalling to early game rather than near endgame like where I'm at right now.

Game beated, 35 hours

I did not enjoy Three Houses and I did not enjoy this game.

Probably will not ever play another Fire Emblem game, lesson learned!

Kenri posted...

Why is Leif the Sage Lord? he's not even a sage

Its his title at the end of FE4:

In the annals of Thracian history, the name of King Leif the Wise, the "Sage-Lord," will echo for eternity..."

Pretty obscure.

Alear gets way better at promotion, if only because they now get 5 move instead of 4.

Whilst I think the class rebalancing and adjustments have generally been fairly good, is there a bigger loser than Paladin with all the changes? It feels like such a mediocre class compared to reclassing into Great Knight or promoting into Wolf Knight, and I'm not even that big a fan of Wolf Knight. Pivot isn't that much of a selling point and it's class growths are nothing special. It's really missing it's old movement advantage and the easy access to Aegis.

My Sword Paladin Lapis sometimes even doubles thieves and Swordmaster, but that may just be her.

I feel like that might be a Lapis thing considering the funny stuff you can do with her in most non-magical classes.

Bitto posted...

Its his title at the end of FE4:

In the annals of Thracian history, the name of King Leif the Wise, the "Sage-Lord," will echo for eternity..."

Pretty obscure.

Alear gets way better at promotion, if only because they now get 5 move instead of 4.

Oh lol, I don't remember that ending at all but I retract my criticism, that's a cool callback

it hurts my soul that almost everyone has 4 move right now. definitely makes me long for the games where even infantry had 6 move standard

Eh, I think it's good for keeping map size restrained.

They're big on promotion move buffs, and with early promotion being optimal I don't mind the low starting move as much. Maps feel like they were built for it, rarely do I find myself inching forward without some type of actual move being made unless someone had to go off to the middle of nowhere for some reason.

I really like that Alear gets fists on promotion, felt wierd at first but a Smithed Silver First can get pretty damn strong, and there's only one other viable fist class for damage that's still a focused healer regardless (theoretically you could make a naturally high strength growth character Martial Monk, but that's a lot of dedication for not that much payoff).

I'm not sure if this has been brought up in this topic yet, because I don't think the game tells you since I only learned it from a random Youtube video, but the way damage is calculated for fist weapons is completely different from how it worked in Three Houses. In Engage it's the character's Str + Mag stat divided by 2, plus the Mt of the weapon, and then minus the enemy Def. It's why the damage seems so weirdly low for characters you'd think it could work on, and really limits the number of characters it's viable on.

It does lead to builds like this though, if you're willing to go above and beyond to make a niche weapon type work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwqgqNytpDQ

Oh wait, really??

That explains why my damage felt so fucking wierd sometimes!

That changes everything, I assumed Pandreo had no business throwing hands.

The way they handled fist weapons (and whilst we're at it, daggers as well. Why are there only 2 widely available classes that use them?) is just all round weird. Unless you buy the DLC to get Tiki's emblem, the only ring that gives proficiency is Byleth's. I guess having it work like it did in TH was too broken, maybe? Since it'd effectively be a brave weapon operating outside of the weapon triangle. As it is though it seems like you need to jump through a lot of hoops (a lot of which aren't available for a while) to make it work for DPS, otherwise it's basically just extra break utility for healers, which is how a lot of people seem to be treating it.

Yeah that explains a lot regarding why Jean can suddenly chip people for 4-6 despite his abysmal strength

lol wait did they change the leave map borders from blue to green in that patch?

Guess some people were having trouble seeing them.

Replaced Yunaka's Corrin ring with Camilla.

Now she had Pass AND Flight AND a Mov +1 from Boots, and can still create avoid fog on the fly since Camilla also has Dragon Vein.

What a setup.