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CedarPointcp
10/27/22 11:24:07 PM
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btw, i mean, 1,2,3,4,5. Which do you think was the worst?
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Axl_Rose_85
10/27/22 11:29:43 PM
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Phantom Pain.

Excellent gameplay but half-assed unfinished story.

Still a great game but could have been one of the best ever if it had storytelling anywhere close to 1-4.
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KamikazePotato
10/27/22 11:33:57 PM
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I didn't play 5, but I'm 90% sure I'd like it the least if I had.

Otherwise, 3. Then Peace Walker. Big Boss is a stamp of mediocrity.

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hombad46
10/27/22 11:37:02 PM
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5, same reasoning as Axl

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KCF0107
10/27/22 11:43:23 PM
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I need to get back to V, but of the four that I have finished, definitely 3. It was a bit of a slog to get through.

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swirIdude
10/28/22 12:29:30 AM
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Probably 5 due to the unfinished story but 4 is the least memorable to me

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redrocket
10/28/22 12:33:07 AM
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Its easily V.

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pyresword
10/28/22 12:39:34 AM
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I never played 5 but 2 is easily the worst out of 1 through 4

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CassandraCain
10/28/22 1:03:44 AM
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5 is second best after 3

I wouldn't say any of them are worst though, my least favorite is probably... 4? Although I'd prefer to replay that over the first game so uhh I dunno

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XIII_Rocks
10/28/22 3:04:43 AM
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There is no mgs5

Mgs1 is the answer

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SHINE_GET_64
10/28/22 3:12:00 AM
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3 > 1 > 5 > 4 > 2

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Xiahou_Shake
10/28/22 3:32:47 AM
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It's V and it's not even close. Mechanics are absolutely top first rate but the overall game design is pitiful and literally unfinished.

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Evillordexdeath
10/28/22 5:17:35 AM
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I thought 4 was legit bad, with all of the worst traits of Kojima's writing in their most exaggerated form.

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junk_funk
10/28/22 5:46:09 AM
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MGS 1, 3, and 4 are all top 50 games for me. 2 is the only terrible one. 5 was average all around, felt unfinished, but had an interesting concept in gameplay.

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LightningStrikes
10/28/22 6:25:42 AM
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Easily 4. It was a bad game given a huge amount if slack for seemingly wrapping up the story which it didnt really.

V is great! Yes it was unfinished but so are a lot of games. The open world is still one of the best ever and set the stage for the GOAT open worlds of BotW and RDR2. The stealth mechanics are so good too. Even the story gets more slack than it deserves. Missions seem to have gotten rearranged leading to odd pacing though again thats common in games. The reality is it wasnt that unfinished. If they had made the bonus content that shipped with the limited edition free DLC the hanging elements of the story are all wrapped up. Its not like there was a third of the game missing like Halo 2 for instance. If you have not played it you absolutely should.

3>1>V>2>4.

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banananor
10/28/22 6:50:54 AM
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It's so hard to choose. Depending on what you care about you could list any game in the series. picking any particular one also feels bad- I love mgs as a whole


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banananor
10/28/22 6:56:03 AM
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My meme answer is launch mgs3 (aka not subsistence) because the camera, controls, and first aid systems were terrible, and I'm not that big on naked snake's characterization

I actually have to hand it to mgs4, even though I was very appreciative of it tying everything up and it has a ton of memorable moments. It was just unpleasant to slog through

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HanOfTheNekos
10/28/22 6:56:40 AM
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1 > 4 > 2 > 3

I feel bad saying that since I know 3 is probably the best, but I never finished it

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neonreaper
10/28/22 6:59:08 AM
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2 and it isnt close

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banananor
10/28/22 7:00:55 AM
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I really, really did not appreciate mgs2 on release. I appreciate it from a distance

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Leonhart4
10/28/22 7:12:23 AM
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3 > 1 > 4 > 2 >> V

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XIII_Rocks
10/28/22 7:15:49 AM
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2 > 3 > 4 > 1

The PS2 duo are so supreme

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ctesjbuvf
10/28/22 8:16:00 AM
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All five are some of the best games ever made.

V is hard to compare to the rest, probably uas the clearest flaws and could have been the best game ever with proper treatment. I'm only certain that 3 is not the 'worst'.

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Zylothewolf
10/28/22 8:33:57 AM
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5 by far.

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plasmabeam
10/28/22 8:40:38 AM
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4 easily. The pacing is awful and the game's chapter-by-chapter structure makes it feel so disjointed.

3 > 2 > Twin Snakes > 5 > 4

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Aecioo
10/28/22 8:48:09 AM
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4 is the worst

it has some bad chapters, the beauty and the beast unit is kind of lame, and the nostalgia/fan service only goes so far. the final fight is the best thing in the entire series though

5 edges it out by having great gameplay

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pezzicle
10/28/22 9:03:41 AM
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2 > 1 > 3 > 5 > 4

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Cavedweller2000
10/28/22 9:37:58 AM
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2 > 1 > 4 > 3 > 5

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Metal_DK
10/28/22 9:42:29 AM
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5 by far.

2 is the best and its not even close

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ViolentAbacus
10/28/22 9:51:40 AM
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4 is the only one I didn't finish, so that one.

Everything about it seemed off.

Overall ranking is probably 3 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 4

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tazzyboyishere
10/28/22 9:52:58 AM
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Probably 4, but I didn't finish V either. 4 is just infuriating and retroactively made me think less of the original trilogy.

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10/28/22 9:53:00 AM
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redrocket posted...
Its easily V.


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HaRRicH
10/28/22 10:19:46 AM
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1 > 3 >= 2 >> V

Never played 4. MGS1 remains the best despite recent years piling on it for outdated gameplay mechanics -- it's still the most tightly-built game and the only one I can stand to follow the cinematics for anymore. Longer cutscenes we're the thing that became outdated for me in this series more than anything.

Fantastic trilogy. V was okay but I didn't play much.

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most_games_r_ok
10/28/22 10:29:00 AM
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3. MGSV is the only entry with stellar gameplay but 3 is the only game that is unfun to play.

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pjbasis
10/28/22 10:29:39 AM
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It's 4 vs 5, for completely opposite reasons.

I'll give it to 5 for being the one that just doesn't really belong/unnecessary


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junk_funk
10/28/22 2:15:23 PM
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Cant believe the disparity in this topic. Also cant believe people actually think 2 was a good game.

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UshiromiyaEva
10/28/22 2:25:27 PM
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It's obvious why people would pick V but I can't agree in the slightest. The story was a mess but it cannot be understated how high quality the gameplay was. I would go as far as to say the MGSV is mechanically the best gameplay experience ever in a video game for me.

I also get 4, the movie, being in the opposite end of the story spectrum. However, that also has such an absurd amount of charm and is an unforgettable experience. I adore its bullshit.

Obviously 3 is just good on all fronts.

And MGS1 is a much more compact, solid, frankly revolutionary experience.

I have to pick MGS2 just via process of elimination, but MGS2 is an EXCELLENT game.

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Leonhart4
10/28/22 2:39:18 PM
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For all the talk of V's great gameplay, I got tired of doing the same things over and over again. I have zero desire to go back to it just to do all the same missions 50 times.

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foolm0r0n
10/28/22 2:47:29 PM
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There are only 4 main MGS. The lettered ones are PW, GZ, V which could arguably be mainline, or their own separate series.

So out of the 4, probably 4 even though I still love it. The structure was too disjointed.

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Xiahou_Shake
10/28/22 3:40:55 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
For all the talk of V's great gameplay, I got tired of doing the same things over and over again.
This is what I meant when I said that it's got great mechanics but awful game design. Like, Ground Zeroes absolutely stomps Phantom Pain when it comes to mission variety, which is a serious problem when it was only supposed to whet our appetites. Like "oh man, if what's essentially a demo has this much variety in its content, imagine how awesome Phantom Pain will be!" Only to realize the "full" game is significantly more boring.

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foolm0r0n
10/28/22 5:00:02 PM
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When people say V has great gameplay they mean it has great controls, but bad gameplay. Which is a terrible reason to say a game is good. It's like saying the Breville Smart Oven Pro is the best Metal Gear because the knobs have a great click when you turn them.

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UshiromiyaEva
10/28/22 5:02:07 PM
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I could spend an entire day just playing MGSV with no actual story progression, just interacting with its systems is a joy, even though I typically despise open world games.

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Uglyface2
10/28/22 5:23:04 PM
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I missed 4, but I hated 2. The oil rig was an intensely dull environment.
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Leonhart4
10/28/22 5:34:36 PM
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Eh, I can only piddle around for so long before I need the feeling of progression.

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colliding
10/29/22 10:52:15 AM
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V

yeah the distinction between controls and gameplay is really important. the mission-based structure completely ruins the game (along with not being finished)

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plasmabeam
10/29/22 10:56:57 AM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I could spend an entire day just playing MGSV with no actual story progression, just interacting with its systems is a joy, even though I typically despise open world games.

Yeah, I hate open world games but loved MGSV. Like you mentioned, the systems were tight and the map had a sense of cohesiveness to it that most open worlds lack.

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ctesjbuvf
11/02/22 8:39:58 PM
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Xiahou_Shake posted...
This is what I meant when I said that it's got great mechanics but awful game design. Like, Ground Zeroes absolutely stomps Phantom Pain when it comes to mission variety, which is a serious problem when it was only supposed to whet our appetites. Like "oh man, if what's essentially a demo has this much variety in its content, imagine how awesome Phantom Pain will be!" Only to realize the "full" game is significantly more boring.

This is misleading imo, Ground Zeroes has what like 7 missions that are all different. Phantom Pain has way more than than 7 different types of missions, but there's a lot of more of each of them. The latter has way more variety unless you insist on doing everything, which you don't have to.

plasmabeam posted...
Yeah, I hate open world games but loved MGSV. Like you mentioned, the systems were tight and the map had a sense of cohesiveness to it that most open worlds lack.

I don't hate open world games but they often become a drag for me and I take a longer break. This was never the case with MGSV which I loved every part of as I spent +200 hours doing everything.

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Big_Bob
11/02/22 9:30:04 PM
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I haven't played V, but of 1-4, I really disliked 4.

2 > 1 > 3 > 4

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pjbasis
11/03/22 4:52:11 AM
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There's so much variety to how you approach things I don't really see how the game could have gotten THAT repetitive for people.

I mean, it certainly did for me because I got the plat and it extended the game by 50 hours it didn't need, but for at least 80 of those hours I never really got tired of it. I did turn off that dumb exclamation mark thing though.

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