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LiquidOshawott 08/08/22 9:12:05 PM #1: |
Who is the villain?
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Leonhart4 08/08/22 9:17:49 PM #2: |
Seymour is the primary antagonist. Jecht is sort of a tragic hero if anything. It's hard for me to consider Sin or Yu Yevon the main villains when they have no real personality to speak of. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mobilezoid 08/08/22 9:19:56 PM #3: |
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PrivateBiscuit1 08/08/22 9:22:30 PM #4: |
The lightning bolts in the Thunder Plains. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 08/08/22 9:24:06 PM #5: |
I think 'the Cycle' is the real answer here. Everything that happens in the game is a result of the cycle Yu Yevon set up, but Yu Yevon is basically dead already so I'll go with the more systemic angle. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackDra90n 08/08/22 9:53:19 PM #6: |
Sin and the cycle are just a force of nature though, they aren't really actively bad guys. Seymour is probably the answer here since he's the most antagonistic. --- http://psnprofiles.com/Drayxs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Emeraldegg 08/08/22 10:00:16 PM #7: |
Seymour also tried to merge with sin and actively destroy everything, that could very easily have been the final boss instead of braska's final aeon and I think is probably more important for the setting's health, seymour controlling sin is probably worse than just letting sin's cycle continue as is. So I'm going to say seymour. It's hard for me to say yu yevon is the villain despite him creating the cycle, because the reason he did that was to defeat a nation he was at war with. --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/08/22 10:06:23 PM #8: |
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NFUN 08/08/22 10:06:45 PM #9: |
It's hard for me to really say any of the beings are. I think the Cycle is the only answer that makes sense. Sure, there are lots of antagonists, but they're all so tragic and trapped and have no real agency. They're just kind of caught up in the SPIRAL OF DEATH GET IT IT'S SPIRA. Anyway Seymour is the closest as he is actively trying to change fate but he also, like, doesn't matter, and he's more of a personified representation of the pain of the cycle --- Kneel... or you will be knelt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 08/08/22 10:11:40 PM #10: |
Yu Yevon is the most literal answer in the ultimate sense. Emeraldegg posted... Seymour also tried to merge with sin and actively destroy everything, that could very easily have been the final boss instead of braska's final aeon and I think is probably more important for the setting's health, seymour controlling sin is probably worse than just letting sin's cycle continue as is. So I'm going to say seymour. that's why he should have been the final boss imoooo --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 08/08/22 10:19:24 PM #11: |
Seymour is the primary antagonist in the sense that he drives the actions of the heroes and the plot somehow even more than the Pilgrimage does at times but he's also such a loser that he deserved to get owned before the final boss getting the emotional payoff with Jecht at the end was better than some lame final showdown with Seymour (even if it does have great boss music) --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scarletspeed7 08/08/22 10:36:02 PM #12: |
Yuna for wasting my time with her bullshit --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 08/08/22 11:04:32 PM #13: |
The cycle & Yu Yevon are what need to be defeated, but they aren't concious. Yunalesca is the only active conscious supporter of the cycle (and her cronies like Mika), so it's clear she's the ultimate villain. Not only of Tidus/Yuna's story, but Auron's, and every summoner. Defeating her was the climax of the party's mission (aka "our story") and killing Sin was the end. Then only Tidus' story to beat Jecht remained. Seymour actually wants to the end the cycle just as much as Tidus/Yuna, but using destruction instead. He was absolutely a loser who did not deserve to be the final boss. Glad they didn't do that. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 08/08/22 11:52:15 PM #14: |
WELL I mean ideally he would have been a character with actual presence befitting that, I get why the Seymour we have got shafted --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 08/08/22 11:54:12 PM #15: |
Definitely the Luca Goers --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Menji 08/08/22 11:56:05 PM #16: |
According to the Villains Contest it's Sin, so what else needs to be said? --- Menji+ https://i.imgur.com/F5UEyUw.gif | http://i.imgur.com/pPZsSZU.gifv Congrats to azuarc! [ https://myanimelist.net/profile/Menjii ] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paperwarior 08/08/22 11:57:16 PM #17: |
None of the others are remotely as evil as the birds. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MartinFF7 08/09/22 1:12:20 AM #18: |
Anagram posted... No lightning? There's the trick of that one crater that triggers a lightning bolt when you walk into it, so you can just abuse that to get the 200. There is no trick against the birds. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 08/09/22 1:15:08 AM #19: |
All except for the laughter. Laughter is the hero. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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colliding 08/09/22 4:16:19 PM #20: |
it's absolutely not seymour real answer is yu yevon/church/cycle as others have pointed out --- while you slept, the world changed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pyresword 08/09/22 4:33:15 PM #21: |
Can't wait to play the version of FFX where Sin is a mecha used by the Luca Goers and all the events of the game are a gigantic conspiracy to ensure their continued unrivaled blitzball dominance. --- I didn't do guru this year but azuarc can be in my sig anyways. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/09/22 4:36:34 PM #22: |
pyresword posted... Can't wait to play the version of FFX where Sin is a mecha used by the Luca Goers and all the events of the game are a gigantic conspiracy to ensure their continued unrivaled blitzball dominance. The grand championship is played inside Sin, and Tidus invents the Tidus Shot Mark IV in front of Jecht just to spite him --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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colliding 08/09/22 4:52:45 PM #23: |
X-3 was one of my most wanted games for years. still think it should happen. get the gang back together, explore spira in glorious 3D. make yuna a summoner again. have paine take auron's place. it's free money square --- while you slept, the world changed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 08/09/22 4:53:42 PM #24: |
garik ronso --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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most_games_r_ok 08/09/22 5:37:09 PM #25: |
The Cycle although Seymour tries so hard to be the big bad --- "I do because I can." http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Micer101.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/09/22 5:39:20 PM #26: |
colliding posted... X-3 was one of my most wanted games for years. still think it should happen. get the gang back together, explore spira in glorious 3D. make yuna a summoner again. have paine take auron's place. it's free money square The X-3 we would get based off of the radio drama is something that should never see the light of day --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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most_games_r_ok 08/09/22 5:55:36 PM #27: |
Leonhart4 posted... The X-3 we would get based off of the radio drama is something that should never see the light of dayThe radio drama that never happened right --- "I do because I can." http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Micer101.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/09/22 6:07:36 PM #28: |
most_games_r_ok posted... The radio drama that never happened right Unfortunately Square wouldn't see it that way --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lopen 08/09/22 6:46:03 PM #29: |
Seymour is the villain of the story but it is not a story primarily about overcoming a villain. And that's okay. So I agree with the general sentiment in this topic but general sentiment isn't answering the question. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MoogleKupo141 08/09/22 6:49:07 PM #30: |
the villain is Tidus Spiras got a good thing going, a system that works, and he comes along and Fuchs it all up. --- For your Azuarc . At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/09/22 6:51:31 PM #31: |
In that sense the real villain is Auron because he's the one who puts everything into motion and makes it all happen --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 08/09/22 7:01:06 PM #32: |
If you are being literal with "the villain" or "the antagonist" in that they have to be characters, then it's Sin. But really this question misses the central conflict of FFX which is against power structures and The Cycle. Sin physically embodies the cycle so that's the closest. No, it doesn't have much of a personality and is more of a force of nature, but that's not an argument against it being a character. You could apply this to like, Godzilla, you wouldn't say Godzilla isn't a character. Seymour is doing a similar thing by personifying the Church, Jecht is the source of so many of Tidus's issues, but Sin and the Cycle are bigger than them and ends up literally assimilating these other things. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dilateDChemist 08/09/22 7:11:16 PM #33: |
Religion --- -sent from DC's phone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 08/09/22 8:09:24 PM #34: |
Red butterflies --- "So much love in his words." - RIP Stephen Sondheim, 1930-2021 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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