Board 8 > A bunch of Pokemon S/V stuff is leaking. *spoilers*

(+) Yeah! (+)

Over the past week, there's been a new leaker posting stuff on Twitter. He started by posting blurry and redacted screenshots, but has since changed to just answering questions. He's trying to stay private, so he's constantly deactivating his Twitter when not actively leaking, but www.twitter.com/CentroLeaks has been keeping track of them, including the pictures. There's also been another leaker that seems to be from the Chinese localization team. He's an awful 4chan type person and posts in obnoxious riddles, but thankfully since this new person showed up, he's had to start being more direct to maintain relevance.

Not so quick summary:

- 120-140 new Pokemon
- Primeape, Girafarig, Dunsparce have new evos
- Murkrow and Pawniard have new split evos
- Wooper (Poison) and Tauros are the only new regional forms
- Wooper has a regional evo
- Spriggatito becomes Dark, bipedal "gentleman thief"
- Fuecoco becomes Ghost, stays a crocodile, quadrepedal. Middle form has an egg on its head that hatches in final form.
- Quaxly becomes Fighting, is like a flamboyant dancer peacock.
- Pawmi has an Electric/Fighting evo
- Lechonk's evo has gender differences
- Smoliv becomes a feminine olive tree
- New flamingo, dolphin, ostrich, coin, Ghost-type dog, two more dogs, Fairy-type girl with a hammer, some other Fairy, an AI, spider, three other new Bug lines, maybe a bike Pokemon
- No third "cover legendary"
- Four sub-legendaries

- There's a new gimmick of time displaced past/future Pokemon. These are based on existing Pokemon, but apparently still have new names and Pokedex numbers. They've been likened to the Ultra Beasts, in that they're like a separate classification of Pokemon. There's like 8-9 total.
- Jigglypuff, Misdreavus, and Amoonguss have past forms
- Delibird has a future form
- Two pseudos have these forms
- A past legendary and a future legendary

- There's another new type of gimmick that's like convergent evolution. New Pokemon that strongly resemble old Pokemon.
- The only example we have so far is a pink Water-type eel Pokemon line that resembles Diglett/Dugtrio

- New battle gimmick that makes your Pokemon look crystalized and boosts the power of types or something.
- Gym leaders and so on all make use of it.

- Region has 3 cities and 9 towns
- Gyms can be faced in any order, but apparently no level scaling (hard to tell if some context was lost in translation)
- Can battle each gym twice during the story
- You need to clear three "routes" to beat the game (unclear, but may mean three separate main quest lines?)
- Something about having classes, exams, and interviews
- Says it took ~60 hours to beat the game
- No overworld catching
- Cover legends are mounts
- Can start battles while riding them
- No fishing
- Some kind of racing element

Probably other stuff I'm forgetting, but it should be all covered in the above Twitter.

mnkboy907 posted...

- Spriggatito becomes Dark, bipedal "gentleman thief"

Thanks I hate it

Most of this sounds pretty good to me but I'll take it all with a grain of salt like all Pokemon leaks.

Dunsparce has an evo?

Day 1 purchase

Going to guess this is fake, particularly since some of these things are too elaborate for pokemon.

Sounds decent. I'd be happy with the amount of new Pokmon, especially since the last few gens have come in at less than 100.

I wonder if they'll come up with something special for the 1000th Pokemon in the dex.

No fishing?

Failtendo strikes again

mnkboy907 posted...

- 120-140 new Pokemon

I immediately don't buy it

I will place money on this being bullshit.

The screenshots posted, despite many of which being reall blurry or otherwise bad, seem too varied and detailed to be fake. All the stuff he posted after he stopped posting pics could be fake I guess, but the guy isn't doing it for attention. He's only allowed like 190 people to follow him and specifically asks people not to screenshot him or post his Twitter handle. I think all his info is legit.

I think there's at least a decent chance of it being real, just because leaks HAVE been real in the past, they're not always fake (remember when people thought a real leak of the gen 7 starter evos was fake?)

but since these are some pretty optimistic projections of stuff that might happen I am keeping my expectations thoroughly in check

mnkboy907 posted...

- Spriggatito becomes Dark, bipedal "gentleman thief"

maybe this old leak pic is actually real?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/6/AAcpo_AADWBm.jpg

looks kinda like a bipedal gentleman thief to me

mnkboy907 posted...

bipedal

uhoh

PrinceKaro posted...

maybe this old leak pic is actually real?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/6/AAcpo_AADWBm.jpg

looks kinda like a bipedal gentleman thief to me

This is the partial pic of its evo that he posted.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1546896595890880513

AriaOfBolo posted...

uhoh

if it's a gentleman thief and not horny with boobs I'll take that as a win

I hope they keep Frostbite over Freeze like in Arceus. Drowsy less so, but Frostbite is way better than Freeze.

"dolphin"

don't buy it.

No overworld catching? Wtf does that mean?

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

No overworld catching? Wtf does that mean?

Probably means its not like Arceus? You probably walk into Pokmon on the overworld and go into the standard encounter like Sword/Shield

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

No overworld catching? Wtf does that mean?

It's not like Arceus. You have to start a fight to catch stuff.

mnkboy907 posted...

- Primeape, Girafarig, Dunsparce have new evos

So actually evos and not regional/game-specific forms? They should be doing this way more often

Maybe, just maybe, this is the gen they make Ice not a defensive joke

barreldragon88 posted...

So actually evos and not regional/game-specific forms? They should be doing this way more often

Maybe, just maybe, this is the gen they make Ice not a defensive joke

Yeah, regular evos. This is the Girafarig one.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1548483805362606085

Today's posts:

• no daycare/nursery, but there's still a way to get eggs
• raids are back, but no Dynamaxing
• new earthworm and crab Pokemon
• Pawniard's new evo is based on a rook
• Volcarona has a past form and Gallade has a future form. Salamence has a new form, but not specified which
• the ostrich is Psychic and its hair reminds the leaker of Cleopatra
• all three dog lines evolve at least once
• (somewhat plot related) despite getting the cover legendary as a mount somewhat early, you can't battle with it until the post-game
• (also plot related) something about not being able to use your own team against the final boss

Hopefully there will be a trailer this week, and because these leaks have been so all-encompassing, it will prove these claims one way or the other.

Eww raids back is bad unless they fix how slow/tedious they were and how shit tier bad the AI partners were

Lack of Dynamax would automatically make them go faster.

Not if they still have the forced HP stopping points!

- Gyms can be faced in any order, but apparently no level scaling (hard to tell if some context was lost in translation)

This bothers me
I mean the Pokemon games are easy enough to begin with but come on

mnkboy907 posted...

* no daycare/nursery, but there's still a way to get eggs

I guess they're upset that everything they did in SwSh to try to streamline the process still didn't stop people from preferring to breed, so they're taking a more drastic measure.

I've been following the leaks. There's an overwhelming amount of evidence to indicate that it's real, including Khu, our reliable leaker who was proven legit when Legends Arceus leaked, corroborating most of this stuff. He says there may be some details wrong due to translation, but I'm banking on the majority of this information being accurate.

From what we've been able to piece together, Quaxly's evolution looks great!

Yeah I'm with Para, the least believable thing here is the amount of new Pokemon.

The rest of it isn't too crazy. The time travel gimmick is a bit weird but also doesn't sound complicated enough to be hugely impactful, if it's just a framing device for weird new Pokemon forms.

Lol the dolphin is hilarious if true because my wife who loves aquatic everything was just asking me the other day why there are no dolphin pokemon

mnkboy907 posted...

Ghost-type dog,

If he isn't a samurai, I will be disappointed.

The 120-140 new Pokemon includes the Ancient and Future forms, which will have their own dex entries and act as entirely different Pokemon. They're basically regional forms, but have their own dex page. I think that drives the number up.

Emeraldegg posted...

Lol the dolphin is hilarious if true because my wife who loves aquatic everything was just asking me the other day why there are no dolphin pokemon

It might be a monkey's paw dolphin. After one of the leakers mentioned it, the other one posted a pic of a buff anthro dolphin. He could've just been trolling.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Yeah I'm with Para, the least believable thing here is the amount of new Pokemon.

The rest of it isn't too crazy. The time travel gimmick is a bit weird but also doesn't sound complicated enough to be hugely impactful, if it's just a framing device for weird new Pokemon forms.

The thing is, they're claiming that the new gimmick forms are being considered new separate Pokemon with new names and dex numbers, so that's inflating the total count. One of them said it's like if Mega Evolutions had their own dex numbers. The more indirect leaker also suspects that number is including DLC.

Pawniards new evo is based on a rook

This seems a bit sus. Pawniard and Bisharp dont have a chess theme in their Japanese names or in general.

mnkboy907 posted...

* (also plot related) something about not being able to use your own team against the final boss

taking ideas from Nexomon: Extinction huh

DoctorJimmy133 posted...

This seems a bit sus. Pawniard and Bisharp dont have a chess theme in their Japanese names or in general.

I thought that was weird too, but the leaker is Japanese so *shrug*

NFUN posted...

if it's a gentleman thief and not horny with boobs I'll take that as a win

Apparently, the Riddler says there is going to be 4 waifumons this generation:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FU8o0ZDWUAABkfz?format=jpg&name=medium

Also, "Titan" is the development codename for Pokemon S/V.

I think we know three of them. Fairy with a hammer is the "loli", Smoliv evo is maybe the plant, and it seems "hardcore queen" is future Gallade and Khu is a transphobe asshole.

Other new info:

• the new flamingo is Fighting/Flying single-stage
• A Grass/Fire Pokemon
• Pawmi is a 3-stage, and the leaked screenshot is the final stage
• Pawmi line has a new attack that's like a defibrillator. A 1PP move that can revive a teammate
• the Pawniard split-evo is actually a Bisharp evo (lots of mixed messaging, a post he made yesterday with chess emojis implied Pawniard evolved into a rook and then into a king)
• Primeape's evo has a National Dex number over 1000.
• Fairy with the hammer is a 2-stage
• 2-stage icicle/glacier Pokemon similar to Avalugg (though Khu says it's not as similar as Kaka claims)
• 2-stage salt Pokemon
• 2-stage engine Pokemon
• Volcarona has both ancient and future forms (future form apparently loses Bug type)
• The other Pokemon with both ancient and future forms is from Gen II
• future forms may have a lame naming convention, like Iron or Steel *Pokemon name* (so sounds like they might be something like Iron Delibird). This could of course be something totally different in English.

How is queen Gallade when its male only now isnt it?

swordz9 posted...

How is queen Gallade when its male only now isnt it?

Because one of the two leakers, Khu, is a gross immature individual who loves to sexualize Pokemon and probably thinks Gallade in general is like a hermaphrodite or something. Khu actually said that the new form is a combination of Gallade and Gardevoir. It's apparently based on an archer wearing traditional Japanese garb that looks like a robe, so it seems more likely it isn't a mix of both, and Gallade is just wearing a robe, and Khu is a shitty misogynist/transphobe.

If that's true, it's disappointing that they didn't give future Gallade a gun instead.

I read that thinking that Khu was a new pokemon, and it's gimmick was being a transphobe and I was very confused. I have no reading comprehension.

maybe the future Gallade is legitimately female and it comes from a future where female Kirlias have won the right to become Gallades

so because this person is into pokemon sexually (let's be real - many people are) and called some new gallade/gardevoir alternate form a "queen", they are misogynistic and transphobic??? i don't get your logic. am i missing something?

Dels posted...

so because this person is into pokemon sexually (let's be real - many people are) and called some new gallade/gardevoir alternate form a "queen", they are misogynistic and transphobic??? i don't get your logic. am i missing something?

This isn't a one-time thing. He's constantly gross and is like a stereotypical 4chan poster. One of his tweets referencing the Gallade form was calling it a "hardcore queen (with a dick... jk), which yes, is a bad transphobic or misogynistic joke depending on what his intentions for the joke were.

is the new gallade form still male...? or female? since it's a new pokemon. i had to look this up but gardevoir can be both. well whatever. i don't know this person. maybe i also misunderstand the connotation of "queen". you're saying the issue is that that if its a male but he calls it a queen because it wears a robe (which is a "girl" thing) then he's implying a male can't wear a robe? hence why he calls it a waifu and not a husbando, even though it's male? i thought queen could be a homophobic slur maybe but that's the one thing you didn't say. i dunno. i'm just confused. but i don't think it matters enough to warrant another reply so whatever.

y'know there are topics I expect to devolve into arguing about trans stuff and there are topics I don't

Mewtwo59 posted...

I guess they're upset that everything they did in SwSh to try to streamline the process still didn't stop people from preferring to breed

Why do they want to stop breeding?

If theres really a third version of Diglett in this game, they need to do a Dugtrio form that is one of each Diglett.