Board 8 > A bunch of Pokemon S/V stuff is leaking. *spoilers*

(+) Yeah! (+)

Bisharp's evolution stays Dark/Steel

All three regional Tauros forms may be Fighting type, and the two-non mono have either Fire, Electric, Water, Grass, Ice, Psychic, or Ghost as a second type (if I'm decoding the colors on a Japanese type chart correctly).

Sprigatito's middle-evo uses this:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/5/AAI16ZAADjIf.jpg
He didn't specify if it was a wand or a yo-yo, and asked people what they think. "Magician Pokemon" is its Pokedex classification.

He posted this pic in regards to Quaxly's final evo:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/6/AAI16ZAADjIg.jpg

Mentions a Fire Warrior and Fire Blade Pokemon that may be version exclusive evolutions. Posted this picture when talking about them:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/7/AAI16ZAADjIh.jpg

Seems there's a salt block Pokemon. Tweeted the word "salt" with a picture of Minecraft.

The quartet of sub-legendaries are Fire/Dark, Ground/Dark, Ice/Dark, and Grass/Dark.

No please dont ruin Quaxly like the Popplio line

Maybe it's just really flamboyant without being overly effeminate

swordz9 posted...

No please dont ruin Quaxly like the Popplio line

Primarina's great. The only thing ruinous about that line is Brionne.

I cant agree with that since its probably my least favorite starter line and one of my least favorite lines across the entire series even.

Yeah what we saw of it from the other bad cropped/blurred images, it didn't look overly feminine. I think it's just supposed to be a flamboyant dancer.

Putting the two pics together, someone made this mock-up of it.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/2/AAI16ZAADjIw.jpg

Based on the other hints, I think what that guy drew as arm feathers is actually it's tail. Though obviously with how blurred the face was, it's impossible to decipher if its facial features are gonna be more feminine or not

I... don't hate that!

Inviso posted...

Primarina's great. The only thing ruinous about that line is Brionne.

This. I love Primarina.

Brionne is a contender for worst Pokemon made.

Wait, Bisharp gets an evo? Like, not a regional form but an evo?

That thing is gonna be a beast in competitive.

Sheep007 posted...

Wait, Bisharp gets an evo? Like, not a regional form but an evo?

That thing is gonna be a beast in competitive.

Yep, of the five cross-gen evolutions, the only one that's of a regional form is Wooper.

Is Bisharp getting an evo or is it Pawniard getting a different evo?

Shattered posted...

Is Bisharp getting an evo or is it Pawniard getting a different evo?

There was confusion when he first posted about it, but it's since been made clear to be an actual Bisharp evo.

Time for "Inviso's Arbitrary Starter Ranking/Discussion" again.

Blaziken is one of my favorite Pokemon, let alone among the starters. Blaziken > Torchic >>>>>>>>> Combusken

Decidueye was the first Grass-starter since Venusaur to really wow me beyond pre-release memes, and even though it would've been cool to get a serious Grass/Flying-type outside of Tropius, Grass/Ghost is still good, despite there being like, five of them in two generations. Decidueye > Rowlet >>>> Dartrix

Infernape is another really good one, and people need to stop complaining so much about Fire/Fighting, because they're mostly great. Infernape >>> Monferno >>>>>>>>> Chimchar

Greninja is really cool as a design, and getting Protean as a special ability just made it even more awesome. Greninja > Frogadier > Froakie

Rillaboom is another really great Grass-type after some rough going in the early generations. Wish it was multi-type, but hey, it's not awful to be mono-type, so long as you're cool and good in-game. Rillaboom > Grookey >>>> Thwackey

Charizard is overrated as hell, but at the same time, I think it's become SO overrated that people correctly criticize it for being overrated, so its popularity is more fair nowadays. It's still gets way more attention than other starters, but whatever. Charizard > Charmander >>>>>>>>>>> Charmeleon

Feraligatr is a badass, for sure. Great Pokemon and able to solo the shit out of GSC/HGSS. Feraligatr > Totodile >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Croconaw

Delphox is a really cool concept, and Fire/Psychic was a unique-ish typing at the time. I don't get why furries love Braixen so much more than Delphox...Delphox looks badass. Delphox > Fennekin >>>> Braixen

Samurott is probably my least favorite of the "best of the generation" starters. It's fine. Not a HUGE fan of the Hisui version, but it's fine. Everything in Gen V is perfectly fine across the board. Samurott > Dewott >> Oshawott

Incineroar looks badass, and I'll always appreciate a funny wrestling theme for a Pokemon. Plus I like all three evolutionary stages, which is rare, given middle evolution syndrome is often a thing. Litten > Torracat > Incineroar

Venusaur is fine. I admit to having a ton of nostalgia for it, but as the years go on, I feel myself falling more and more out of love with my first ever starter. Bulbasaur > Venusaur = Ivysaur

Typhlosion is cool, but when you compare it to almost every other Fire starter as a dual-type, it's almost forgettable (especially in a generation that has SO much fodder already). Hisui Typhlosion is pretty cool though, with the Ghost-typing. Typhlosion > Cyndaquil >>>> Quilava

Empoleon is in that tier with Venusaur/Typhlosion where it was the first Pokemon I chose for its generation, and it's fine, but it's just gotten completely overshadowed since then. Empoleon > Piplup >>> Prinplup

Serperior is another one that I picked initially for the memes, but Grass-type really struggled to be useful early on. There's so little reason to pick them over superior Fire or even Water-types. Serperior > Snivy >>>> Servine

Primarina is a fun mermaid design, and I love the Water/Fairy-typing. I just wish it wasn't part of Slowlola, since everything just moves so goddamn slow in that generation, and it hurts Primarina more than the other two. Primarina >>>> Popplio >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brionne

Inteleon is a cool design, and I love the signature move but it just gets overshadowed by how unique and cool Rillaboom is as well, and there are better mono-Water starters. Inteleon > Sobble >>>> Drizzile

Sceptile is cool enough, and I think the Mega evolution does a lot for it...but the final design is almost a little too busy for me. Grovyle > Treecko > Sceptile

Cinderace is one that you'd think would appeal to me as a furry, and it's good to have a fast starter, but this just feels so generic, and the color scheme gives me similar problems to Chesnaught. Still, the agility is much-appreciated. Scorbunny > Cinderace >>> Raboot

Emboar is probably the worst Fire-starter, but the worst Fire-starter is still better than many options, because Fire is so much better as a starting type than the other two. Pignite > Emboar > Tepig

Blastoise is a line I've never gotten onboard with. Squirtle coasts almost entirely on its anime appearance, and Blastoise just feels like a lame attempt to try and be as cool as Charizard (which is weird, because the original pairing in Japan was Red/Green, not Red/Blue). Squirtle >>>>>>> Blastoise > Wartortle

Meganium exists. Bayleef > Meganium > Chikorita

Swampert exists. Slightly moreso than Meganium, but Swampert is the starter that, to me, feels the most like a Pokemon you should just be able to find out in the wild. It doesn't come across as special. Marshtomp is especially problematic in this regard. Mudkip > Swampert >>>>> Marshtomp

Chesnaught looks so stupid. Everything about this line is derpy, and not really in a fun way, either. I hate the change in color scheme upon final evolution as well. Quilladin > Chespin > Chesnaught

Torterra is one of my least favorite starters, if not outright my least favorite. Designwise, it feels like the same as Venusaur, but worse. Having finally played through BDSP with Torterra, it's SO disappointing. It's slow, it doesn't learn enough good moves for its typing, and it's surprisingly flimsy due to being a Grass-type. Grotle > Torterra > Turtwig

Inviso posted...

Primarina's great. The only thing ruinous about that line is Brionne.

ctesjbuvf posted...

This. I love Primarina.

Brionne is a contender for worst Pokemon made.

WOW. The disrespect. Brionne is the best part of that line

Brionne is awful.

Oh right, and Khu posted "tumbleweed" with no context, so maybe there's a tumbleweed Pokemon.

https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/1557502807611408385

I continue to be astounded by how mid all the Gamefreak work from Toby has been. It's hard not start up the conspiracy theory that his stuff is being sanded down either at request or in post, because none of it has hit, when he's typically never a miss.

I'm sorry, are you saying that the "The Baby Is You" battle theme from Sword and Shield is not a certified Toby banger?

https://youtu.be/WSig9qC9tWE

Anyways I think it's weird to judge from a version with trailer voiceover cut, and anyways however you slice it Toby is too prolific to not have some misses. Not that weird!

Also he's been open about how the creative process has worked, it's not really a conspiracy
https://twitter.com/tobyfox/status/1532038920183205888?t=gCkQ254HRaR6VsfMP5AwyQ&s=19

The Battle Tower theme is my favourite SwSh track. I guess that isn't saying much - I find it kind of an uninspiring soundtrack apart from the gym theme - but I still really like it

I liked all the rival themes from Sw/Sh. They were a bop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLir8xB0kKg&ab_channel=Artastiq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmPyVBF5FvM&ab_channel=Artastiq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pUC0ja2Hcs&ab_channel=Artastiq

I thought that the OST was the one thing SwSh had going for it.

Gen 6 has a very underrated soundtrack that has sequences that are unlike the rest of the series imo they make me bop (and it's the one thing XY has going for it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg7dwGS082M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAPS1axIA_4 this reminds me of PW:AA investigation themes but better imo

Oh yeah I definitely enjoyed XY's soundtrack

Xerneas/Yveltal theme is one of the best in the series

The flower Pokemon that was in the initial batch of leaked screenshots is a 2-stage Poison type.

The new Electric frog apparently functions similar to Rotom?

There's a new way to battle, but he didn't elaborate aside from saying "wild".

No diving.

For the Fire warrior/blade Pokemon mentioned yesterday, the warrior evolution is exclusive to Scarlet, and the blade evolution to Violet

The new crab mentioned before is single-stage

Donphan is the Pokmon that gets both future and past forms

which seems like a super weird choice to me, but Im into it

I like Brionne AND Primarina (and Popplio) fight me

What are all the Gen 5 Pokmon getting love in S/V? Too lazy to go back through multiple posts/pages

Amoongus is supposed to get a past form, Volcarona gets both past and future, and Bisharp gets an evolution

also maybe Virizion gets a future form, but it may not be until DLC

so "past" and "future" forms is different than terastalizing and hasnt been revealed yet, right?

do we know if there are in-battle changes from this or is it the same as a regional form?

GTM posted...

so "past" and "future" forms is different than terastalizing and hasnt been revealed yet, right?

Correct.

do we know if there are in-battle changes from this or is it the same as a regional form?

They're supposedly completely separate Pokemon with new names and Pokedex numbers. I guess the idea is they've changed so much over time that they're no longer classified as the same Pokemon from the present day (even though the two we've seen in the leaks don't really look any more different than usual regional forms).

new names as in "Past Amoongus" or like "Cartoongus"?

All the mechanical pokemon should have past forms imo

mnkboy907 posted...

(even though the two we've seen in the leaks don't really look any more different than usual regional forms).

Are "past" and "future" actual classifications or maybe just a description and just happens a lot look like that? Maybe it's like runigerus, similar enough but a different named pokemon.

Man of all the top tier Gen 5 stuff they pick some random stuff like that. Bisharp is cool at least

GTM posted...

new names as in "Past Amoongus" or like "Cartoongus"?

From what we've been told, more like the latter.

GTM posted...

Are "past" and "future" actual classifications or maybe just a description and just happens a lot look like that? Maybe it's like runigerus, similar enough but a different named pokemon.

They're all said to be single-stage with high stats, and one of the leakers likened them to Ultra Beasts. There's supposed to be an odd name to their classification, but I don't think it's just "past" or "future".

Maniac64 posted...

All the mechanical pokemon should have past forms imo

Today's new tidbits suggests one of the Magnemite line has a past form.

in Gen V news, Im seeing that Hydreigon may be the remaining unconfirmed future/past pokemon

so that would be neat

someone else said it was Goodra, but that would be pretty weird right after it got the Hisuain form

I won't stand for this Brionne slander, one of my fave pokemon

MoogleKupo141 posted...

in Gen V news, Im seeing that Hydreigon may be the remaining unconfirmed future/past pokemon

so that would be neat

someone else said it was Goodra, but that would be pretty weird right after it got the Hisuain form

Khu posted a tweet with hints of the remaining ones, and said one guess that used Magnezone and Goodra to fill in a couple of the blanks was the most accurate guess.

Id have like to see something for Scolipede or Crustle. Lilligant too since the Hisui one looked ugly. Golurk couldve been cool too even though its already great.

theres obviously another meowth form!

When asked again about how many new Pokemon there are, Kaka now says 103-106, significantly down from when he said 120-140 before. \_()_/

Khu says there's 45 different lines (seems to be including the 6 legendaries) + 5 cross-gen evos + 16 past/future Pokemon (I guess they're being referred to as paradox forms at the moment).

Perhaps the 120-140 included form changes. It's still confusing though, because 106 total implies Primeape evo's National Dex number wouldn't be over 1000. 106 puts us at 1011 total Pokemon, and the last 22 spaces would almost definitely be for the legendaries and paradoxes. \_()_/

If we're going Gen 5 let's get something for Krookodile imo

Krookodile is already perfect, no need for anything new

The best thing for Krookodile is to get into Unite so it can get a bunch of neat costumes.

The salt Pokemon is a Rock type and the scarab beetle is Bug/Ground.

Also mentioned yesterday that the three Tauros forms are black, red, and blue. Khu says we can discern their types from that, so probably Fighting, Fire/Fighting, and Ice or Water/Fighting.

I wonder what type the earthworm will be, if there's another Bug/Ground.

According to the Khu, this is the breakdown of the new Pokemon (not in Pokedex order).
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/4/6/AAI16ZAADkNa.jpg

105 total. 8 3-stage lines, 21-22 2-stage lines, 31 1-stage lines/legendaries/paradoxes.

I think the Es represent the 5 cross-gen evos, which you could say adds two more 3-stage and three more 2-stage lines.

I think the S and V are Koraidon and Miraidon, since there's six spots after the Es to reflect the six legendaries.

I think the bottom row is the 16 paradox forms, with the TBDs being the last two the leakers haven't specifically named yet.

It's possible this also includes paradox Suicune/Virizion, which are apparently in the game files but not in the base game (likely DLC). I'm not sure if they're supposed to be part of the 16 total paradox forms or not.

i wonder if any of the remaining few totally unhinted Pokmon are fossils

or maybe no fossils this time around