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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 8:18:47 AM
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I wanted to continue my rant about the Nostalgia Critic vs. the Jurassic Park movies from the Rings of Power topic but figured that wasn't the right thread for it. So here goes...

The first Jurassic Park movie the NC reviewed, and the only one he did so before the initial cancellation, was The Lost World. He mocks the heroes' concerns over the dinosaurs at first by flashing back to scenes of the dinosaurs in the first film causing trouble...even though the dinosaurs in question in Lost World were plant-eating dinosaurs getting rounded-up by the Ingen guys as opposed to the dinosaurs in the scenes he shows from the first film being meat-eaters, implying Doug thinks all dinosaurs are carnivorous monsters and not just animals with their own sets of necessities. This basically sets the tone for the rest of the review where he acts like he has no idea why we should be rooting for the heroes against the villains, making it seem like he completely misunderstands the whole idea of the franchise. His other JP reviews don't help at all, with his review of the first one focusing on its strengths as blockbuster entertainment rather than its techno-thriller plot (e.g. he asks how no one realized the dinosaurs had frog DNA when the implication is clearly more that the people in charge had no idea how that would impact the dinosaurs. Granted it's still a good question why frog DNA was used in the first place, although the book explains it better at least).

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BetrayedTangy
07/16/22 9:22:31 AM
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How would you personally rank all the Jurassic Park movies?

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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 10:19:34 AM
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Based on what I remember 1 > Lost World > World > Fallen Kingdom > 3. Haven't seen Dominion.

That being said it has been a while since I saw Lost World or 3 and haven't fully seen World since it came out (tried watching it while channel-surfing recently to see how much of it I could endure, got annoyed pretty fast).

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colliding
07/16/22 10:28:36 AM
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why do your posts focus more on what youtubers/other people have to say about films rather than your own personal feelings or reactions to the source material?

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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 11:11:54 AM
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I get annoyed by ridiculous takes like that. In that case however the big thing is I got surprised by how The Lost World has a reputation as the Jurassic Park movie where "the heroes are responsible for all the deaths while the villains do nothing bad" which I never felt whenever I've seen the movie. The one grain of truth is that the main reason the villains are villains is because they want to build another park, which went SO well the first time. Although I guess that point is a bit moot since the park was later successfully opened for a while.

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/16/22 11:13:59 AM
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Talking about Nostalgia Critic in 2022

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SeabassDebeste
07/16/22 11:34:57 AM
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colliding posted...
why do your posts focus more on what youtubers/other people have to say about films rather than your own personal feelings or reactions to the source material?

it seems like a weird blend of celebrity worship (like discussing pro athletes/sports, or personalities like the kardashians) and thinking this is actually current events/news (like discussions about politics or game release schedules)

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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 11:41:46 AM
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I'll move on from Jurassic Park: I feel like people make a WAY bigger deal about the whole "no one can name any character from Avatar" thing than it really is. Would The Exorcist or heck even Citizen Kane fare much better in such a discussion? Trying to act like Avatar should have been the next Star Wars is ridiculous. Comparisons to Cameron's own Titanic are more understandable but you're still talking about a two-person period romance vs. a science fiction film. Also maybe Avatar was intended for an older audience than stuff like Star Wars and Titanic?

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scarletspeed7
07/16/22 11:43:31 AM
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Regan MacNeil

Jake Sully

My argument is that people suck at remembering names.

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Underleveled
07/16/22 11:45:34 AM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
I'll move on from Jurassic Park: I feel like people make a WAY bigger deal about the whole "no one can name any character from Avatar" thing than it really is. Would The Exorcist or heck even Citizen Kane fare much better in such a discussion? Trying to act like Avatar should have been the next Star Wars is ridiculous. Comparisons to Cameron's own Titanic are more understandable but you're still talking about a two-person period romance vs. a science fiction film. Also maybe Avatar was intended for an older audience than stuff like Star Wars and Titanic?
What is this post?

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Aecioo
07/16/22 11:47:58 AM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
I'll move on from Jurassic Park

do the last jedi next


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Corrik7
07/16/22 11:57:12 AM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
I'll move on from Jurassic Park: I feel like people make a WAY bigger deal about the whole "no one can name any character from Avatar" thing than it really is. Would The Exorcist or heck even Citizen Kane fare much better in such a discussion? Trying to act like Avatar should have been the next Star Wars is ridiculous. Comparisons to Cameron's own Titanic are more understandable but you're still talking about a two-person period romance vs. a science fiction film. Also maybe Avatar was intended for an older audience than stuff like Star Wars and Titanic?
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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 12:00:56 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Talking about Nostalgia Critic in 2022

Yeah this was solely to explain a joke I made in the Rings of Power topic about how David S. Goyer ruined Foundation the way he ruined DC and Terminator because NC frequently mocks Goyer and his last two screenwriting credits were Batman v. Superman and Terminator: Dark Fate. Admittedly I haven't fully seen the former but I do not like what I have seen at all.

Speaking of Dark Fate, it also took me until like yesterday to realize how often anti-progressives keep bringing up the same few examples for "Get Woke, Go Broke". Part of the reason I started following Midnight's Edge recently again is because I wanted to see someone mock Rings of Power, only to result in the same old jabs at the Ghostbusters reboot and The Last Jedi. In 2021. Accuse me of hypocrisy all you want but wow. Then I went back and saw an earlier video about how they were afraid Black Widow would be the next coming of TLJ because of how many interviews involved Scarlett Johansson talking about her career struggles (while simultaneously flashing some reports about how she's the highest-paid Hollywood actress, which doesn't actually mean much) and what the character means to her and women as a whole and how she always wanted Black Widow to be a more fleshed-out character instead of a glorified sex object. This was eventually accompanied by a slideshow of promotional images for Dark Fate, Charlie's Angels, and Birds of Prey as if BW was set up to be the same thing. And then once the movie came out the main spokesperson for the site said the movie was somehow *not* as woke as he feared it would be based on that and previous Phase 4 entries which clashed with my own opinion on the movie after watching it where I felt if any movie deserved to be labelled a social message in search of a plot it was Black Widow. I like the movie was a celebration of action girls but my god, what plot was there actually beyond finding out a cartoonish caricature of Harvey Weinstein was somehow not dead and putting a stop to his sex trafficking ring once and for all? And somehow this is not political according to them while Last Jedi is. Ugh.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 12:02:20 PM
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Underleveled posted...
What is this post?

I just happened on this argument elsewhere and decided I agree with it.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 12:03:48 PM
#15:


Aecioo posted...
do the last jedi next

TBH I feel like many of the problems people have with the ST if not Disney-era Star Wars as a whole come down to the films being more clearly intended for nostalgic adults compared to Lucas's films which creates whiplash amongst some of the more hardcore fans, to continue on from my Avatar argument.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 2:24:52 PM
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On another note, am I the only one who finds it disgusting how Will Smith gets banned from the Oscars ceremony for 10 years and has his next projects put on hold just because he slapped someone while Mel Gibson and Kevin Spacey still get work? I guess it's understandable considering most probably don't realize they are though - I can name exactly four movies released over the past decade Gibson has been involved with. And I'm not even sure if one of them is less than 10 years old.

My attitude towards the Ezra Miller situation shifted drastically for similar reasons. Doesn't help that 'grooming' has become a Republican buzzword, making it seem like a ploy to sabotage The Flash. I don't even think it needs that much help in that regard but who knows.

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Leonhart4
07/16/22 2:38:08 PM
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colliding posted...
why do your posts focus more on what youtubers/other people have to say about films rather than your own personal feelings or reactions to the source material?

He doesn't know how to form his own opinions

or he hasn't actually watched the thing he's ranting about so he doesn't have anything real to draw from

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Aecioo
07/16/22 3:24:38 PM
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I'm so close LMS.

Do Metroid Other M now

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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 3:36:09 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
He doesn't know how to form his own opinions

or he hasn't actually watched the thing he's ranting about so he doesn't have anything real to draw from

Funny you say that since I try to make sure I have an actual opinion regarding what I'm commenting on nowadays.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 3:37:29 PM
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Aecioo posted...
I'm so close LMS.

Do Metroid Other M now

Can't really think of anything resembling a rant I could do there. That ship has sailed sort of?

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Underleveled
07/16/22 3:39:12 PM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
am I the only one who finds it disgusting how Will Smith gets banned from the Oscars ceremony for 10 years and has his next projects put on hold just because he slapped someone while Mel Gibson and Kevin Spacey still get work?
No I'm pretty sure most people are disgusted by this, particularly regarding Spacey.

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LeonhartFour
07/16/22 3:39:20 PM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
Funny you say that since I try to make sure I have an actual opinion regarding what I'm commenting on nowadays.

maybe one day you could try sharing it instead of posting about YouTube randos for attention

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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 3:41:03 PM
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Literally every YTer I cite is a rando apparently.

Also if I didn't have my own opinions I wouldn't be ranting about these.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/16/22 3:43:16 PM
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Underleveled posted...
No I'm pretty sure most people are disgusted by this, particularly regarding Spacey.

Fun thing is, my dad was not even aware of Gibson's history of anti-Semitism. So I guess that explains it? But I've still never heard anyone express that.

I like Gibson BTW, love the first two Lethal Weapons.

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LeonhartFour
07/16/22 3:44:48 PM
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being banned from the Oscars isn't the same as getting work

Will Smith will get work and I highly doubt Gibson or Spacey will ever be anywhere near the Oscars again

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Lopen
07/16/22 3:45:09 PM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
Literally every YTer I cite is a rando apparently.

Now you're getting it. They don't matter.

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NFUN
07/16/22 3:48:49 PM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
Literally every YTer I cite is a rando apparently.
you cited Doug Walker who is perhaps the least respected Youtuber outside of scammers and predators

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Underleveled
07/16/22 3:55:18 PM
#28:


LeonhartFour posted...
I highly doubt Gibson or Spacey will ever be anywhere near the Oscars again
Didn't Roman Polanski get a nomination fairly recently?

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LeonhartFour
07/16/22 3:57:07 PM
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if by recently you mean 20 years ago then yes

he's won stuff at independent film festivals in recent years but not at the Oscars

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Underleveled
07/16/22 3:58:33 PM
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Oh, I thought he got an Oscar nom within the last 5-10 years. My bad.

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Dantezoid
07/16/22 4:14:34 PM
#31:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Literally every YTer I cite is a rando apparently

accurate

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TheRock1525
07/16/22 4:37:57 PM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
Can't really think of anything resembling a rant I could do there. That ship has sailed sort of?

Damn blue balled so bad.

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Aecioo
07/16/22 5:00:31 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Damn blue balled so bad.

I'm in so much pain

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redrocket
07/16/22 8:46:26 PM
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Aecioo posted...
I'm in so much pain

LMS you monster.

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colliding
07/16/22 9:58:10 PM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...


Speaking of Dark Fate, it also took me until like yesterday to realize how often anti-progressives keep bringing up the same few examples for "Get Woke, Go Broke". Part of the reason I started following Midnight's Edge recently again is because I wanted to see someone mock Rings of Power, only to result in the same old jabs at the Ghostbusters reboot and The Last Jedi. In 2021. Accuse me of hypocrisy all you want but wow. Then I went back and saw an earlier video about how they were afraid Black Widow would be the next coming of TLJ because of how many interviews involved Scarlett Johansson talking about her career struggles (while simultaneously flashing some reports about how she's the highest-paid Hollywood actress, which doesn't actually mean much) and what the character means to her and women as a whole and how she always wanted Black Widow to be a more fleshed-out character instead of a glorified sex object. This was eventually accompanied by a slideshow of promotional images for Dark Fate, Charlie's Angels, and Birds of Prey as if BW was set up to be the same thing. And then once the movie came out the main spokesperson for the site said the movie was somehow *not* as woke as he feared it would be based on that and previous Phase 4 entries which clashed with my own opinion on the movie after watching it where I felt if any movie deserved to be labelled a social message in search of a plot it was Black Widow. I like the movie was a celebration of action girls but my god, what plot was there actually beyond finding out a cartoonish caricature of Harvey Weinstein was somehow not dead and putting a stop to his sex trafficking ring once and for all? And somehow this is not political according to them while Last Jedi is. Ugh.

this one jumped the shark and now I'm totally convinced you're just an elaborate bit

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/16/22 10:28:06 PM
#36:


colliding posted...
this one jumped the shark and now I'm totally convinced you're just an elaborate bit
All I did was point out anyone in the world is talking about Nostalgia Critic in 2022.

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NFUN
07/16/22 10:40:18 PM
#37:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
All I did was point out anyone in the world is talking about Nostalgia Critic in 2022.
the thing is there are a few popular personalities that still make fun of him semi-regularly

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ChichiriMuyo
07/17/22 3:30:04 AM
#38:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
On another note, am I the only one who finds it disgusting how Will Smith gets banned from the Oscars ceremony for 10 years and has his next projects put on hold just because he slapped someone while Mel Gibson and Kevin Spacey still get work? I guess it's understandable considering most probably don't realize they are though - I can name exactly four movies released over the past decade Gibson has been involved with. And I'm not even sure if one of them is less than 10 years old.

My attitude towards the Ezra Miller situation shifted drastically for similar reasons. Doesn't help that 'grooming' has become a Republican buzzword, making it seem like a ploy to sabotage The Flash. I don't even think it needs that much help in that regard but who knows.
Mel Gibson and Kevin Spacey both spent five years out of work. Maybe it's not enough of a punishment, but they didn't go completely unpunished. As for Will Smith's punishment - that is being enacted by a private organization at their own discretion, and they aren't keeping him from picking up any new projects. In fact, he has more projects in the works right now than the other two combined. The punishment Smith faces is a joke.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/17/22 5:32:28 AM
#39:


Yeah I might have jumped the gun on that one.

Sorry to disappoint you guys but I couldn't think of anything to "rant" about regarding Other M.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/17/22 5:36:44 AM
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colliding posted...
this one jumped the shark and now I'm totally convinced you're just an elaborate bit

It was actually Terminator: Dark Fate which kickstarted this whole thing in a way. That movie sucks but anyone who was against it before release because feminism is basically a misogynist. Especially Terminator of all franchises. That and Captain Marvel were basically my first real hints that the vocal "f*** TLJ" crowd seemed to care more about opposing identity politics than for the health of any franchise.

Dark Fate actually being a nuclear flop at the box office didn't help one iota.

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Mr_Lasastryke
07/17/22 6:47:46 AM
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i only read the first post but you get that the nostalgia critic is a fictional character who's supposed to be a dumbass, right? you're not supposed to take him that seriously. nostalgia critic is comparable to the AVGN, who often overexaggerates how terrible the games he reviews are.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/17/22 8:36:06 AM
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Yeah but they line up pretty well with Doug's actual opinions on the films from what I gather. And even then I don't get the point of asserting that dinosaurs are all man-eating monsters, whether seriously or not.

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Leonhart4
07/17/22 8:37:44 AM
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It means you don't get how humor works so you're probably taking everything he says at face value

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Mr_Lasastryke
07/17/22 8:41:26 AM
#44:


there is overlap between the nostalgia critic character and doug, but doug as the nostalgia critic does often exaggerate his opinions or make intentionally dumb arguments for comedic effect.

the walker brothers made the "real thoughts" series to, well, explain what their real thoughts are on the movies the nostalgia critic reviewed.

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SeabassDebeste
07/17/22 8:43:12 AM
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kayfabe doesn't exist!

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Leonhart4
07/17/22 8:59:13 AM
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SeabassDebeste posted...
kayfabe doesn't exist!

It's real to me darn it

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LinkMarioSamus
07/17/22 3:47:03 PM
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Either way it doesn't serve the review. And yes that's one reason why I've comparatively soured on NC, though I still watch him every now and then.

Not really a rant but I feel so stupid it took me this long to realize anti-progressives have an effective victim complex. So them accusing someone like Anita Sarkeesian of benefiting from such a narrative just reeks of self-projection.

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Leonhart4
07/17/22 4:03:25 PM
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so you're the kind of guy who gets mad when a comedian makes a science joke and it's not scientifically accurate

That tracks

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