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Muscles 06/10/22 3:12:36 PM #1: |
It's weird that songs like Stairway to Heaven and Smells Like Teen Spirit get way bigger than songs like When the Levee Breaks or Sliver for example --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 06/10/22 3:13:47 PM #2: |
it's because the public chooses those things --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/10/22 3:18:15 PM #3: |
Because youve heard the hits so many times that youre sick of them Theres also a very real psychological effect of feeling like you enjoy something thats not known to casual fans so you have more appreciation for the group/artist --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dikitain 06/10/22 3:37:44 PM #4: |
The Smashing Pumpkins are my favorite band of all time, but even I will admit the majority of their best songs (with the exception of some songs on Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness) are their hits. The rest of them feel like filler. And this is from a band that regularly releases 20-30 b-sides with every full-length album. --- After 16 years, I have decided my signature will NOT be about my job! But I still don't know what to put here so...yea... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 06/10/22 3:59:54 PM #5: |
Because you generally don't like the sort of music that tends to become popular. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ParanoidObsessive 06/10/22 5:44:11 PM #6: |
Because you're a hipster. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Firewood18 06/10/22 10:43:55 PM #7: |
Warren Zevon was known to come out and play werewolves of London and then go back stage for twenty minutes and wait for his real fans to stay for his real music. --- Nobody is perfect. Well, one guy was but we killed him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 06/10/22 10:45:20 PM #8: |
I do like that Pandora has a "Deep Cuts" shuffle option --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zareth 06/10/22 11:22:23 PM #9: |
Hoobastank comes to mind, The Reason sucks ass --- What would Bligh do? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/10/22 11:24:43 PM #10: |
the Killers is my favorite band but Somebody told me is probably one of my least favorite songs by them its not even close to the best song on that album --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/22 12:00:20 AM #11: |
Would you say Somebody Told Me is bigger than Mr. Brightside? I always thought Mr. Brightside was their biggest, either way neither are the best --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 06/11/22 12:03:29 AM #12: |
Africa isn't even top-5 Toto --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 06/11/22 12:16:42 AM #13: |
Muscles posted... It's weird that songs like Stairway to Heaven and Smells Like Teen Spirit get way bigger than songs like When the Levee Breaks or Sliver for example Sounds like you're a hipster. Not necessarily a major one but the fact that you can't understand why people don't all share the same favorite as you hints at it. I used to work with a guy with a major hipster complex he would talk about all the bands he used to like but lost interest in because they "made it" and he had gotten to the point (at the time I knew him) where all the stuff he listened to was basically difficult for me to acknowledge as music it was like he was intentionally listening to stuff so awful no one would ever like it. Typically stuff that is popular isn't popular because of lyrical or instrumental complexity or innovation. Stuff will be popular for having a beat you can bob your head to or a simple (usually positive) message that is widely relatable. Sliver is a great song, but Smells Like Teen Spirit obviously has the wider appeal given that most people don't even know what he is saying in the song while sliver is kinda sad. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/22 12:58:59 AM #14: |
I'm not saying they have to like my favorites, sometimes I don't even have a favorite song for a band. I'm also not saying every biggest hit is bad, I absolutely love (Don't Fear) The Reaper for example. --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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zebatov 06/11/22 2:29:36 AM #15: |
Theyre just overplayed. Stairway was done as soon as Waynes World used it. There are so many untapped tracks for each of us that we dont know about. I continually find new old music that Ive never heard before where I think Why?. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Count_Drachma 06/11/22 3:47:34 AM #16: |
Because things with mass appeal tend to be less distinct than other content by the very nature of having mass appeal. Or, like Zebatov says, it could be overplay. --- Everybody's got a price / Everybody's got to pay / Because the Million Drachma Man / Always gets his way. AhahahahMMH ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 06/11/22 4:15:52 AM #17: |
Dikitain posted... The Smashing Pumpkins are my favorite band of all time, but even I will admit the majority of their best songs (with the exception of some songs on Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness) are their hits. The rest of them feel like filler.so they're like bad radiohead (because with radiohead, the filler is good) --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/11/22 6:53:07 AM #18: |
Muscles posted... Would you say Somebody Told Me is bigger than Mr. Brightside? I always thought Mr. Brightside was their biggest, either way neither are the best I think Somebody Told Me was a bigger hit(I could be wrong) initially but obviously Mr Brightside has become a total classic. It definitely gets played a lot more at bars and clubs and whatnot. --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 06/11/22 7:43:24 AM #19: |
Why is the newest Red Hot Chili Pepper's terrible song being played on the radio? Oh yeah, corporations telling you what to enjoy and the populace follows. --- "I don't question our existence, I just question our modern needs" Pearl Jam - Garden My theme song - https://youtu.be/-PXIbVNfj3s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/11/22 8:24:26 AM #20: |
SunWuKung420 posted... Why is the newest Red Hot Chili Pepper's terrible song being played on the radio? Oh yeah, corporations telling you what to enjoy and the populace follows. or they want to sell album and make ad revenue $$$$ --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BUMPED2002 06/11/22 10:15:19 AM #21: |
Probably because it's all determined by sales for the most part. The songs that are good that do not sell well usually get tossed aside. --- SpankageBros ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/22 10:21:18 AM #22: |
BUMPED2002 posted... Probably because it's all determined by sales for the most part. The songs that are good that do not sell well usually get tossed aside.It doesn't make much sense since they can get away with pushing garbage and artificially making it popular, so why not push good songs and make them popular instead? --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/11/22 10:24:00 AM #23: |
Muscles posted... It doesn't make much sense since they can get away with pushing garbage and artificially making it popular, so why not push good songs and make them popular instead? its all subjective, the music you think is garbage, a lot of people like and enjoy there are plenty of hits that are incredible songs btw if you talk about popular music like that irl, plenty of folks are just gonna think youre an asshole if you start calling music they like trash or garbage --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/22 10:37:28 AM #24: |
I mean, you can't really say that a lot of popular music isn't popular only because it got pushed so hard, that's why they do it, record labels know what they're doing. I'm not saying people can't like low effort music like Hanson, Bieber, Jonas brothers, drake, etc. but it sure helps when you get it shoved down your throat and it gets stuck in your head on a regular basis. If you like generic pop, go a head, I'm not gonna hate you, and I don't talk trash about it irl, but you have to admit that a good chunk of the appeal is the fact that it's popular, not that it's good, and we can get more complex and skilled songs just as popular of record labels pushed Tool, Primus and Dream Theater instead of Kanye, Taylor swift and whatever other flavor of the week that gets pushed. --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 06/11/22 10:46:31 AM #25: |
Muscles: perpetually mentally 12 im jealous in a way ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 06/11/22 10:49:22 AM #26: |
guys i only like good music like primus and tool, not garbage poop (hehe see what i did there??) music like KANYE WEST AND TAYLOR SWIFT listen to yourself man. this is why girls dont like you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 06/11/22 10:50:30 AM #27: |
dream theater and tool are fucking terrible Im sorry i would rather listen to the wiggles https://youtu.be/a13WnqsRc5g ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 06/11/22 10:52:23 AM #28: |
You're just a hipster --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 06/11/22 10:52:55 AM #29: |
Kyuubi4269 posted... You're just a neckbeard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/22 11:00:55 AM #30: |
As I already said, it's cool if you like that, I won't argue with you over it (at least irl) but you have to admit top 40 stuff isn't as complex or skilled as prog, that's not subjective. But that's not what this topic is about, good bands can have bad/underwhelming songs and they usually make it big for some reason. --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 06/11/22 11:02:54 AM #31: |
if you think that music is about complexity or prowess you dont really understand or like music ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/22 11:07:48 AM #32: |
I don't think that's all music is about, hell I like pop punk and that's no more complex than pop. I also admit that, despite my feelings towards pop punk, that's its kinda shit, why can't we just all admit when we like something that's shit instead of trying to justify it? --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/11/22 11:14:33 AM #33: |
Because it's only your opinion that those things are "shit" or "low effort." I'd love to see you write, produce and record a hit pop song since it's so low effort and easy? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 06/11/22 11:16:23 AM #34: |
literally doesnt even matter how easy or hard it is/was to write. music comes from a place of passion. THATS IT ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/11/22 11:19:48 AM #35: |
Muscles I'd actually love to know if you actually know what the process of creating a song is? Especially a pop or electronic song? You truly only seem to think music is full of effort if you see a band playing music in front of you visually. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 06/11/22 11:21:43 AM #36: |
seven nation army is like 6 notes and doesnt even have a chorus lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/22 11:22:13 AM #37: |
DirtBasedSoap posted... literally doesnt even matter how easy or hard it is/was to write. music comes from a place of passion. THATS ITMost pop artists don't write their own stuff, how can it come from a place of passion if it's not even coming from them? That's besides the point though, this topic is about music relative to an artists discography not whole genres of music. --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 06/11/22 11:23:57 AM #38: |
Kanye west and Taylor swift both write their own shit homie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/22 11:24:30 AM #39: |
Good thing I said most and not all --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/11/22 11:25:50 AM #40: |
Most pop artists contribute to writing their songs. Many pop artists also write songs for other artists. https://www.openmicuk.co.uk/advice/singers-who-write-their-own-songs/ Pop music is a very collaborative genre. You think NONE of the dozens of people who work on a pop album have passion? Writing songs = passion? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/22 11:29:39 AM #41: |
How did this topic become about pop music? It started off exclusively about rock bands with randomly popular songs. If you like pop music, good for you, go do your thing, I'm not trying to get it banned or anything. --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirtBasedSoap 06/11/22 11:30:22 AM #42: |
Muscles posted... It doesn't make much sense since they can get away with pushing garbage and artificially making it popular, so why not push good songs and make them popular instead? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/11/22 11:33:58 AM #43: |
Muscles posted... How did this topic become about pop music? It started off exclusively about rock bands with randomly popular songs. No but every time you bring it up it's the same dumb shit and you never even try to reconsider your opinion. Your opinion makes no sense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 06/11/22 11:34:05 AM #44: |
Pop music isn't the only popular music, that can apply to any popular artist regardless of genre. They managed to get nickleback huge and they're a garbage rock band. --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/11/22 11:34:35 AM #45: |
DirtBasedSoap posted... seven nation army is like 6 notes and doesnt even have a chorus lmao it totally has a chorus though it goes like this Bloo, bloo bloo bloo bloo bloo bloo Bloo, bloo bloo bloo bloo bloo bloo bloo bloo bloo --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/11/22 11:36:50 AM #46: |
Muscles posted... Pop music isn't the only popular music, that can apply to any popular artist regardless of genre. They managed to get nickleback huge and they're a garbage rock band. omg muscles I cannot even with you today anymore --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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captpackrat 06/11/22 12:05:04 PM #47: |
KISS' number one top selling song of all time is... "Beth" Their one song that isn't even a rock song. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 06/11/22 12:23:42 PM #48: |
Muscles posted... I don't think that's all music is about, hell I like pop punk and that's no more complex than pop. I also admit that, despite my feelings towards pop punk, that's its kinda shit, why can't we just all admit when we like something that's shit instead of trying to justify it? You're basically attacking things people like and demanding they justify it? Then asking why people are justifying stuff. I liked a lot of the pop punk bands when I was a kid and still listen to it now, I don't care if a hipster shits on them. You seem to have become more of a hipster as this thread has gone on. Here I'll give you something that might appeal to your hipster sensibilities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT7x1NvGf5k ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/11/22 12:26:02 PM #49: |
I liked the California Raisins til they went all corporate --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dikitain 06/11/22 12:37:11 PM #50: |
BlackScythe0 posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT7x1NvGf5k I have so many questions that I don't think they will fit into the character limit of one post, and I doubt I really want the answers to them. --- After 16 years, I have decided my signature will NOT be about my job! But I still don't know what to put here so...yea... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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