Board 8 > MCU General 8 - Ms. Marvel bringing the Love, She-Hulk bringing the Thunder

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IfGodCouldDie
05/12/22 10:07:10 AM
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Friendly reminder to tag spoilers.

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BlackDra90n
05/12/22 10:39:44 AM
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Tag.

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LinkMarioSamus
05/12/22 12:11:04 PM
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I wasn't trying to suggest that it was only anti-progressives who take issues with Wanda's character arc in Phase 4, more just asking how contentious it is beyond people who politicize the issue needlessly. I've also come to realize Midnight's Edge is probably mostly concerned with the response from the hardcore comic book crowd which is most definitely NOT the main audience for the MCU. The outlet attributed the mixed fan reception to Phase 4 to them adapting newer and less popular source material compared to before which sounds like a gross generalization at best. I mean, Iron Man is supposedly a much different character in the comics than he is in the MCU (origin tied to Vietnam instead of the War on Terror and not as much of a snark machine for starters), so that's probably not even very true to begin with. And even otherwise, who's to say the MCU writers can't just take whatever aspects of the comics they like and adapt them?

Even as someone who isn't very keen on Phase 4 beyond No Way Home (and yes I understand a lot of what I said about it seemed pretty generalized, but again I'm not particularly invested in the character to begin with so a lot of the nostalgia beats didn't really hit with me, although at the same time I at least recognized the characters from non-MCU Spidey films), the MCU doesn't come off to me now as being any different than it did before. I'm detecting lots of genuine racism and sexism under the veneer of legitimate film criticism and I don't like it one bit.

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colliding
05/12/22 12:13:18 PM
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'nuff said

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Grand Kirby
05/12/22 1:34:28 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/7/AABtbFAADOZB.jpg

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XIII_rocks
05/12/22 4:50:34 PM
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MoM spoilers

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cda6_atjeT7/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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LeonhartFour
05/12/22 11:19:22 PM
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one day I hope LMS will actually be able to discuss the movies themselves instead of continuing to give attention to the YouTube randos he claims to hate and avidly disagree with despite refusing to stop watching them

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Waluigi1
05/12/22 11:35:29 PM
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Whew, that other topic filled up so fast! Loved reading about all the MoM stuff though. I saw it again last night and still love it. It's really like a good theme park ride.

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LinkMarioSamus
05/13/22 10:35:29 AM
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Uh what you guys generally think of Chris Pratt? He seems to be turning into a more controversial figure as of late, albeit said controversies probably won't stop him.

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IfGodCouldDie
05/13/22 10:47:35 AM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
Uh what you guys generally think of Chris Pratt? He seems to be turning into a more controversial figure as of late, albeit said controversies probably won't stop him.
I have no strong feelings about his personal life at all. I do enjoy him as an actor.

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LinkMarioSamus
05/13/22 11:21:08 AM
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I'm mostly fine with him but it's starting to feel like he keeps playing the same character over and over again. Which also appears to be how he is in real life.

Apparently in 2020 there was a bit of a meme calling Pratt "the lamest Chris in Hollywood" or something.

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Leonhart4
05/13/22 11:45:24 AM
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Another day in which my hopes have been dashed

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TheRock1525
05/13/22 12:11:58 PM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
Apparently in 2020 there was a bit of a meme calling Pratt "the lamest Chris in Hollywood" or something.

Really? I had no idea. Tell me more, LMS.

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Waluigi1
05/13/22 12:17:59 PM
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I used to really like him before I found out more about him as a person. I still enjoy his acting.

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LinkMarioSamus
05/13/22 12:27:38 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Really? I had no idea. Tell me more, LMS.

James Gunn had to step in and defend Pratt when there were calls to can him from the MCU. Such a decision would probably be nothing short of a disaster, so yikes.

The whole "lamest Chris" thing is largely meant in jest though. People just liked to joke about the "four Chrises" Hemsworth, Evans, Pine, and Pratt and Pratt is apparently consistently the least popular of the bunch. It seems that a relative minority are also just tired of Pratt doing the same shtick over and over again, even though he's pretty much the perfect Hollywood everyman lead so audiences will keep turning out to see him. I suppose his casting as Mario also got some controversy.

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Johnbobb
05/13/22 6:28:49 PM
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Kinda seems like a dbag but he's not awful enough to hate

But I don't particularly care for him either because everything after Parks and Rec has been pretty unimpressive by him

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GuessMyUserName
05/13/22 6:37:01 PM
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no strong feelings beyond the memeable bit about voicing everything

a dbag but he definitely keeps to himself for the most part so you can't really give too much of a shit

easily the k in fuck marry kill of the MCU Chris category because the other two are obvious (f is hemsworth m is evans)

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colliding
05/13/22 9:17:42 PM
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the chris pratt drama is old news LMS. you need to be more up to date on your MCU youtubers. don't let us catch you slacking!

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Paratroopa1
05/13/22 9:26:30 PM
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GuessMyUserName posted...


easily the k in fuck marry kill of the MCU Chris category because the other two are obvious (f is hemsworth m is evans)
This is a pretty good way to describe Chris Pratt
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Janus5k
05/14/22 4:16:10 AM
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Just saw MoM

I think I appreciate Wandavision a bit more knowing that it was actually a villain origin story

also man what a movie to release on Mother's Day weekend

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LinkMarioSamus
05/14/22 5:19:54 AM
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colliding posted...
the chris pratt drama is old news LMS. you need to be more up to date on your MCU youtubers. don't let us catch you slacking!

I guess it has become more relevant as of late due to him having at least two major blockbusters this summer and possibly a third later on. Mostly I'm just noting how the tide seems to be turning on Pratt and Gal Gadot when both actors seemed beloved when they first stepped into their superhero roles, even if the latter has no MCU ties (beyond being seemingly good friends with Brie Larson). At this point I feel confident saying Arnold Schwarzenegger is a better actor than both of them.

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Waluigi1
05/14/22 12:04:01 PM
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Oof. Chris Pratt isn't a bad actor really though. He's just only great at playing himself lol.

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GuessMyUserName
05/14/22 12:46:52 PM
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something about Disney UK leaking that She-Hulk is due for August 17th

https://twitter.com/CineGeekNews/status/1525412261749194752

so let's see 6 episodes of Obi-Wan from May 27 covers through to July 1st, and 6 episodes of Ms. Marvel from June 8th gets us to July 13th (with some Love & Thunder dropping at the tail-end), and then it's just a month until She-Hulk

gonna be pretty set for the next few months wooo

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LinkMarioSamus
05/14/22 1:13:03 PM
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Apparently this new Doctor Strange movie is polarizing anyway, even outside of political reasons.

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bryans7
05/14/22 1:13:48 PM
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
Apparently this new Doctor Strange movie is polarizing anyway, even outside of political reasons.

I'm done.

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LinkMarioSamus
05/14/22 1:22:10 PM
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Waluigi1 posted...
Oof. Chris Pratt isn't a bad actor really though. He's just only great at playing himself lol.

I also don't think Arnie is a bad actor though.

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CassandraCain
05/14/22 1:29:13 PM
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All movies that do anything different are polarizing, watch better youtube content for gods sake.

So about Wanda in the new movie, not sure where everyone is now that we've had time to reflect on it, but does anyone seriously believe she's dead? I thought it was a well known rule that if we didn't see a body then they survived. 110% guarantee she's not dead. I don't believe for a second that they'd leave their best female character behind without giving her a chance at redemption.

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GuessMyUserName
05/14/22 1:31:32 PM
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definitely alive, especially with White Vision still unaddressed.

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IfGodCouldDie
05/14/22 1:35:41 PM
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CassandraCain posted...
All movies that do anything different are polarizing, watch better youtube content for gods sake.

So about Wanda in the new movie, not sure where everyone is now that we've had time to reflect on it, but does anyone seriously believe she's dead? I thought it was a well known rule that if we didn't see a body then they survived. 110% guarantee she's not dead. I don't believe for a second that they'd leave their best female character behind without giving her a chance at redemption.
the poof of chaos magic as the tomb was collapsing tells me she survived.

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Waluigi1
05/14/22 1:38:30 PM
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Apparently in the comics when someonthing similar happened, she showed up with amnesia and no powers near the mountain, so we'll see.

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bryans7
05/14/22 1:40:35 PM
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Bold most likely not correct prediction: Magneto finds her and convinces her she's his daughter.

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CassandraCain
05/14/22 1:44:21 PM
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I honestly do think at some point they will reveal her to be Magneto's biological daughter, if only because it's what everyone wants.

It will also give her an "excuse" as to why she was prone to fits of rage since oh hey it runs in the family!

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Leonhart4
05/14/22 1:46:18 PM
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Another day in which my hopes have been dashed

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swordz9
05/14/22 1:48:40 PM
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The more I see of the MCU the more excited I get about Deadpool meeting all the other characters. Also excited to see some X-Men. Theres just a lot of exciting possibilities really. Its crazy to think Black Panther 2 is this year. I have no idea what to expect of it after Bosemans passing and have heard virtually nothing about the project still other than how weird it felt for everyone without him there.
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IfGodCouldDie
05/14/22 1:52:49 PM
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Yea BP2 is very interesting to me because of a lack of Boseman. I'm just very intrigued as to where they will go with it.

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CassandraCain
05/14/22 1:56:37 PM
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swordz9 posted...
heard virtually nothing about the project still other than how weird it felt for everyone without him there.

I fear that might show through their performances as well. There will be an underlying feeling of discomfort throughout the whole movie. I still trust it'll be good though.

As for Deadpool I really can't see him crossing over with the MCU proper for a long time. I don't think Disney has any idea how to handle such a vulgar character yet.

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IfGodCouldDie
05/14/22 2:00:00 PM
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CassandraCain posted...
I fear that might show through their performances as well. There will be an underlying feeling of discomfort throughout the whole movie. I still trust it'll be good though.

As for Deadpool I really can't see him crossing over with the MCU proper for a long time. I don't think Disney has any idea how to handle such a vulgar character yet.
Yea, I think things like Moon Knight and MoM are them kind of testing the waters to see how far they can go before people get upset at the subject matter of Marvel movies.

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LinkMarioSamus
05/17/22 1:44:48 PM
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Look, I gave the warning earlier about those YouTube randos and me. I'm still struggling to come to terms with some of the news outlets I used to follow going this far down the alt-right path. The only thing that remotely makes sense is that they started to endorse ridiculous conspiracy theories during the pandemic because there were no new releases to cover. And it just feels surreal to have essentially the #1 multimedia franchise have so many people vocally against it, especially in such a politicized way.

Virtually every time I've seen any of their stuff over the past year and a half is out of sheer curiosity. Now even that's starting to die down.

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IfGodCouldDie
05/17/22 1:46:57 PM
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On the internet everything is political, and if you want to get a way from that, the best thing to do is not bring those topics of discussion up in places that aren't talking about them.

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Leonhart4
05/17/22 1:56:13 PM
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Yet another day in which my hopes have been dashed

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Aecioo
05/17/22 1:58:44 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Yet another day in which my hopes have been dashed

You should be thankful that LMS continues to grace us with his presence.

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CassandraCain
05/17/22 2:02:23 PM
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Maybe he needs help finding better youtubers to wean him off the toxicity he's trapped himself in. Here's a few MCU related videos by more constructive people, allow the healing process to begin.

Spoilers for new Marvel stuff so be cautious:
https://youtu.be/NGy0aUsyq6I
https://youtu.be/bYaFTJ1r6Qk
https://youtu.be/KSvsGbarbfs

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GuessMyUserName
05/17/22 2:08:59 PM
#43:


uh-oh RLM mention 'bout to spur another dip into Brie Larson madness

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Aecioo
05/17/22 2:17:55 PM
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GuessMyUserName posted...
uh-oh RLM mention 'bout to spur another dip into Brie Larson madness

I like how he says constructive and posts those hack frauds

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CassandraCain
05/17/22 2:20:12 PM
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Oh RLM is controversial now? Fuck.

edit: Actually yeah now that I think of it they may not be the best choice to watch for someone impressionable. I don't agree with everything they say but I know how to accept opinions that aren't my own.

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GuessMyUserName
05/17/22 2:30:47 PM
#46:


I don't really follow critics but I mean if we're talking around LMS then RLM's got a pretty well known weak-point to dart on right up his alley

personally I just stick to easter-egg, theory, and hypeman videos though... pretty much just ScreenCrush/Heavy Spoilers/New Rockstars

new rockstars comes up with the most absurd reach theories it's hilarious, oh my god poor MT got wrecked when he went all-in on Moon Knight moving the starts as if they were actually time travelling the whole universe outside of earth

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Seanchan
05/17/22 2:59:55 PM
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I like that one guy who does those pitch reads

"Actually it'll be SUPER easy! BARELY an inconvenience!"

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CassandraCain
05/17/22 3:07:07 PM
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I love Pitch Meeting, and thankfully they have their own channel now.

https://youtu.be/10EY4Qj9wlQ

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swordz9
05/17/22 3:08:55 PM
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Pitch Meeting is amazing.
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Aecioo
05/17/22 4:14:16 PM
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In all seriousness RLM is my favorite youtube channel but I do not trust LMS to understand what satire is.

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