Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 388: Ashley Madison Cawthorn

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526997132858822658?s=21

Who could have seen this coming

The fact that anyone believes the dude who posted Take the red pill in 2020 (before the election) is having a genuine GOP awakening or some shit is just pathetic.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

The fact that anyone believes the dude who posted Take the red pill in 2020 (before the election) is having a genuine GOP awakening or some shit is just pathetic.

Liberals turning conservatives later in life is a thing.

Musk's fans are nothing if not pathetic so yeah that tracks

Corrik7 posted...

Liberals turning conservatives later in life is a thing.

Because they accumulate wealth. Elon Musk was always wealthy. Also that really only applies to economic beliefs anyway. Furthermore it stopped being true because our generation stopped getting wealthier as they got older.

red sox 777 posted...

Actually, the GOP should run as the party of unity and love. That would make a great slogan. Unity and Love. And to prove their new direction, they can push Trump into retirement on the basis that he's too mean and divisive.

Then they would need to act nicer to the Dem candidates all campaign. Which would go completely against all their current campaign strategies.

Corrik7 posted...

Liberals turning conservatives later in life is a thing.

The point that went over your head is that someone who seriously pushed "redpilling" two years ago was already not anything close to liberal. He's being performative.

I hope Im misinterpreting this and its narrower than Im reading it, but is the 5th Circuit effectively saying that all SEC enforcement is unconstitutional???

https://twitter.com/prof_jpc/status/1527003339644362756?s=21

LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526997132858822658?s=21

Who could have seen this coming

This tweet is just a reverse LMS post

LordoftheMorons posted...

I hope Im misinterpreting this and its narrower than Im reading it, but is the 5th Circuit effectively saying that all SEC enforcement is unconstitutional???

https://twitter.com/prof_jpc/status/1527003339644362756?s=21

It seems to me that the SEC should still be able to enforce through the regular courts, provided that they are only enforcing laws clearly passed by Congress and not regulations the SEC promulgated without a clear grounding in statute passed by Congress.

Generally speaking, I don't know if you've actually looked at a lot of the federal laws and regulations which govern much of life in this country and internationally, but frequently the actual laws are very very vague and basically say, the President/executive branch agencies are given carte blanche to make regulations which will operate as law. For example, Trump's ability to impose tariffs arose from this kind of vague statute that delegated authority to the President.

Congress has gotten very lazy over the last few decades with regard to drafting statutes and routinely delegates stuff to the executive branch. So when people complain that the President has too much power, a lot of that is because Congress has been handing it to him, hand over fist, for decades. It would be a positive development if the courts cracked down on this practice and told Congress that they need to actually legislate.

Well, the general idea there is that Congress does neither has the subject matter expertise to precisely craft all regulations, nor can it anticipate every scenario that might occur for a given task (e.g. maintaining clean air and water). As long as Congress understands that its delegating this authority I dont see the issue; all regulations having to be exactly spelled out when we address a given issue maybe once every few decades would be very unwieldy.

This is old but I just saw it and it made me laugh

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/04/27/lets-go-brandon-cant-be-on-colorado-congressional-candidates-nickname-on-ballot-judge-rules/

LordoftheMorons posted...

Well, the general idea there is that Congress does neither has the subject matter expertise to precisely craft all regulations, nor can it anticipate every scenario that might occur for a given task (e.g. maintaining clean air and water). As long as Congress understands that its delegating this authority I dont see the issue; all regulations having to be exactly spelled out when we address a given issue maybe once every few decades would be very unwieldy.

It's a matter of degree, right?

Also, Congress should have subject matter expertise, or can obtain it. If they need to employ more people for that, they can vote themselves a higher budget. But the important thing is that Congress has democratic legitimacy in that they are elected by the people. It is really antidemocratic for elected representatives to delegate their decisionmaking authority to unelected people (and to the extent that the executive branch agencies are filling with non-political career people, they are unelected).

This process is self-perpetuating and likely to continue to be unless the courts get involved. If Congress believes they can pass one substantive bill a year through reconciliation at 2 a.m. after the final text of the bill was not even unveiled until 11 p.m. and none of the members have read the whole thing, because the bill is full of delegations to the executive branch so that Congress does not need to worry about the details, well, they won't worry about the details. And they'll think this is an appropriate way of governing.

https://twitter.com/wsbchairman/status/1527005770549800967?s=21&t=D2UKedJKJ4OsvRuEo5Mdwg

The stock market is literally not real

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://twitter.com/wsbchairman/status/1527005770549800967?s=21&t=D2UKedJKJ4OsvRuEo5Mdwg

The stock market is literally not real

Is this supposed to be a surprise? The stock market is mostly psychology. All capitalism is psychology. We value some things more, and other things less.

Ever notice how all Republicans do is complain. They never offer real solutions to anything. They just play the blame game. I wish more people would realize that.

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1527092111195226114

simulation glitched again

xp1337 posted...

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1527092111195226114

simulation glitched again

I thought for sure that the tweet was just adding its own commentary

xp1337 posted...

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1527092111195226114

simulation glitched again

An actual literal lol

https://twitter.com/radioguychris/status/1526150975920013312?s=21&t=88Sy101pU-JsrlZZYYqkhA

Ooh boy.

GWB called the invasion of Iraq brutal and unjustified. He then said he meant Ukraine. But maybe he was thinking about Iraq!

xp1337 posted...

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1527092111195226114

simulation glitched again

*chef's kiss*

Dancedreamer posted...

Ever notice how all Republicans do is complain. They never offer real solutions to anything. They just play the blame game. I wish more people would realize that.

Forget that, they make up imaginary problems.

Suprak the Stud posted...

https://twitter.com/radioguychris/status/1526150975920013312?s=21&t=88Sy101pU-JsrlZZYYqkhA

Ooh boy.

What is ooh boy about this? I looked at the comments and saw just people blaming Republican trade policies.

Also another perfect attack angle for democrats to open up formula imports denouncing Republican policy! Will they? Of course not they dont do anything.

Also damn. That was a poll swinger

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/19/1099844097/abortion-polling-roe-v-wade-supreme-court-draft-opinion

masterplum posted...

What is ooh boy about this? I looked at the comments and saw just people blaming Republican trade policies.

"Lets be very clear: this is a capitalist country. The government does not make baby formula, nor should it" is insanely tone deaf A) when talking about people not being able to feed their kids and B) for 2022 in general.

masterplum posted...

What is ooh boy about this? I looked at the comments and saw just people blaming Republican trade policies.

Also another perfect attack angle for democrats to open up formula imports denouncing Republican policy! Will they? Of course not they dont do anything.

Yeah not allowing imports from countries with comparable safety standards is bad and left us more vulnerable to a severe shortage due to one supplier being compromised.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527317718931677186?s=21&t=xmK8L9SSMN4sU84PaxWFiQ

lol I know were all tired of Elon, but the notion that the Right is moving more towards center is offensively stupid.

Edit: I feel like hes specifically saying thats how it should be in this tweet, not saying thats how it IS, but Im inferring he believes it is by how hes voting Republican now

He explained in a video that the issue that sways him is Biden being pro-labor unions, which he dislikes and says are just another form of monopoly and against the public good

He is trying to win my vote.

Unfortunately for him, I was one of the 7% or whatever of Americans who wanted to vote for him 2 years ago

Jakyl25 posted...

He explained in a video that the issue that sways him is Biden being pro-labor unions, which he dislikes and says are just another form of monopoly and against the public good

That's what it comes down to for these rich businessmen. They don't want workers having any power, because they might have to exploit them a little less. Sadly, they've won the war against unions (except, of course, Police Unions.)

This was finally confirmed:

https://twitter.com/aaronblake/status/1527332036100251648?s=21

Something something bootstraps

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527317718931677186?s=21&t=xmK8L9SSMN4sU84PaxWFiQ

lol I know were all tired of Elon, but the notion that the Right is moving more towards center is offensively stupid.

Edit: I feel like hes specifically saying thats how it should be in this tweet, not saying thats how it IS, but Im inferring he believes it is by how hes voting Republican now

I feel like he's taking the observed electoral trends of how voters flip based on parties in power, then trying to apply a radical centrist ideological explanation to it. Very incorrectly. But also as Jakyl says he's trying to justify his anti-union stance. Plenty of reasons to not overanalyze it too much.

Jakyl25 posted...

You literally said if I moved to Europe I would have to fear Russian tanks

Lasa check the archives

well, apparently he didn't literally say this because i can't find this post >_>

do you remember when this approximately took place? would make looking a whole lot easier.

speaking of the archive, this is a post i made a few topics ago:

wait why the hell are people arguing with black turtle about this

the student debt thing has been elaborately explained to him 10000 times before in this topic. he never listens. in a few months, he'll return with the exact same "blah blah useless degree blah blah why is this my problem" bullshit.

wow look what we have in this topic

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I don't see why the people who paid their debts, used their degree to get a good job and pay taxes, have to be punished because someone signed up for a 4 year philosophy degree at an out of state school, partied for 2 years then dropped out to work a minimum wage job.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

well, apparently he didn't literally say this because i can't find this post >_>

do you remember when this approximately took place? would make looking a whole lot easier.

I wanna say around January 2021? I could be off on that

Ah. This must be the "dirty tricks campaign" Elon warned us about (because he was asked for comment and knew it was about to be published)

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1527417752574644230?t=AzbrR0xP-w4Vg6c10xTLWA&s=19

Speaking of the topics titular villain, now he actually sounds like one

https://www.businessinsider.com/madison-cawthorn-expose-republicans-election-defeat-dark-maga-2022-5?utm_source=reddit.com

He also wrote that the time for "gentile politics as usual" is over, declaring that it's "time for the rise of the new right, it's time for Dark MAGA to truly take command."
"Dark MAGA" refers to a burgeoning aesthetic movement gaining traction among the far-right online. The Global Network on Extremism & Technology has identified the movement as one that "celebrates violence and the terror that fascist organising might inspire."
"We have an enemy to defeat, but we will never be able to defeat them until we defeat the cowardly and weak members of our own party," he wrote. "Their days are numbered. We are coming."

Mr Lasastryke posted...

speaking of the archive, this is a post i made a few topics ago:

wow look what we have in this topic

You raise excellent points as to why the tax paying hard working members of society should fund the fiscally irresponsible, lazy Philosphy major dropouts of the country to sit on their ass and "party" for a couple years. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea clearly has NO concept how how society, economics or the job market work. People who went and got a loan they couldn't pay back, for a degree that doesn't translate into any real world use deserve a bailout just as much as the minimum wage worker that took out a high interest loan to buy a "sick truck bruh". This isn't society's problem, this is an individual's problem resulting directly from their poor decisions.

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

You raise excellent points as to why the tax paying hard working members of society should fund the fiscally irresponsible, lazy Philosphy major dropouts of the country to sit on their ass and "party" for a couple years. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea clearly has NO concept how how society, economics or the job market work. People who went and got a loan they couldn't pay back, for a degree that doesn't translate into any real world use deserve a bailout just as much as the minimum wage worker that took out a high interest loan to buy a "sick truck bruh". This isn't society's problem, this is an individual's problem resulting directly from their poor decisions.

what do you have against philosophy majors anyway

did one of them steal your milkshake or something

They're one of the most common programs people get into that have no actual monetary value. I don't have anything against philosophy as a subject, just the people that thought it was a sound financial decision to take out loans to get a Philosphy degree that are now asking everyone else to pay it off for them. You could substitute any number of other degrees that have zero job prospect.

Philosophy degrees account for less than .4% of bachelor degrees earned, or roughly 7000 degrees. And 95% of them are employed.

But philosophy majors also have some of the highest scores in the LSAT and GMAT the required tests for entry to law and business school respectively, according to figures from the Educational Testing Service (ETS). And when it comes to earnings for people who only have undergraduate degrees, philosophy majors have the fourth-highest median earnings, $81,200 per year, out-ranking business and chemistry majors, according to the ETS. Bar none, philosophy majors have the highest salary growth trajectory from entry to mid-career.

People need to shut the hell up about how philosophy is a pointless degree.

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

You raise excellent points as to why the tax paying hard working members of society should fund the fiscally irresponsible, lazy Philosphy major dropouts of the country to sit on their ass and "party" for a couple years. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea clearly has NO concept how how society, economics or the job market work. People who went and got a loan they couldn't pay back, for a degree that doesn't translate into any real world use deserve a bailout just as much as the minimum wage worker that took out a high interest loan to buy a "sick truck bruh". This isn't society's problem, this is an individual's problem resulting directly from their poor decisions.

What if I want to fund the med students and educators and game designers? Am I permitted to do that in junction with philosophy majors? Or am I supposed to want a less-utopian society because dumb people get hard-ons for punishing people young adults for doing a normal thing in our society?

Frankly, I think the world would be a better place if people in stem and the arts took ethics courses (part of philosophy).

TheRock1525 posted...

Philosophy degrees account for less than .4% of bachelor degrees earned, or roughly 7000 degrees. And 95% of them are employed.

People need to shut the hell up about how philosophy is a pointless degree.

I am sure most the people who take philosophy degrees are doing so because they can afford to fuck off and are already rich and etc.

I am sure it's cute, but James Franco isn't taking Philosophy to get a job out of it.

I got my minor in Philosophy, what does that amount to in Black Turtles mind

TheRock1525 posted...

Philosophy degrees account for less than .4% of bachelor degrees earned, or roughly 7000 degrees. And 95% of them are employed.

People need to shut the hell up about how philosophy is a pointless degree.

I'd like to see a source for that that also includes the number of people that sign up for a Philosophy program and drop out after the first year

Dig that hole

HanOfTheNekos posted...

What if I want to fund the med students and educators and game designers? Am I permitted to do that in junction with philosophy majors? Or am I supposed to want a less-utopian society because dumb people get hard-ons for punishing people young adults for doing a normal thing in our society?

That's the beauty of society, you don't need to "fund" med students/educators/game designers, because those people will be able to "fund" themselves by converting their education into a well paying career

Jakyl25 posted...

I got my minor in Philosophy, what does that amount to in Black Turtles mind

Depends, what was your major, and are you currently asking me to pay off your student debts for you because you don't "feel like it"

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I'd like to see a source for that that also includes the number of people that sign up for a Philosophy program and drop out after the first year

Source: Philosophy Admissions/Recruiting Department.