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IfGodCouldDie
03/19/22 6:46:26 PM
#402:


I feel like Moon Knight could be the darkest Marvel show since Netflix, and I am really hoping that they don't shy away from it. I think the popularity of things like Netflix, Deadpool, STAR tab, etc. has shown Disney that the world is ready to accept darker themes/more grown up shows even if they are associated with Disney in some capacity. I know Feigie has total control but he still needs everything to be ok'd by his bosses.

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redrocket
03/19/22 7:25:45 PM
#403:


Lets be real here. Even if this movie was just two hours of over the top MCU action scenes with zero context or explanation, it wouldnt even be half as bad as mortal kombat Annihilation.

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LinkMarioSamus
03/20/22 6:46:08 AM
#404:


XIII_rocks posted...
I don't hate Black Widow but I thought I was going to when I saw that

Genuinely horrific and my #1 issue with the movie

That's twice now where one of my favorite aspects of a Phase 4 film was one of your least favorite. The other being Ben Kingsley in Shang-Chi.

Anyway, if Lopen is saying that Black Widow didn't have a strong enough story to justify returning to the aftermath of Civil War he's right. If he insists that Black Widow doesn't explain the aftermath of Civil War he's wrong.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/20/22 7:07:45 AM
#405:


i hold the seemingly unpopular opinion that ben kingsley was terrible in iron man 3 AND shang-chi!

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LinkMarioSamus
03/20/22 10:10:10 AM
#406:


Maybe I have such a soft spot for Kingsley because of Schindler's List.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/20/22 10:19:50 AM
#407:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
If he insists that Black Widow doesn't explain the aftermath of Civil War he's wrong.

Again, no. That's just the setting. Civil War has very little impact on the Black Widow movie at all.

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LiquidOshawott
03/20/22 11:01:03 AM
#408:


Hawkeye beated

Good show! Probably my second favorite so far, loved the surprises at the end

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Waluigi1
03/20/22 11:49:58 AM
#409:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Maybe I have such a soft spot for Kingsley because of Schindler's List.
Nah, he's just wrong. Kingsley was great.

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Leonhart4
03/20/22 11:56:07 AM
#410:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
i hold the seemingly unpopular opinion that ben kingsley was terrible in iron man 3 AND shang-chi!

And I hold the perhaps more unpopular opinion that he was great in both...!

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Lopen
03/20/22 12:05:01 PM
#411:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Anyway, if Lopen is saying that Black Widow didn't have a strong enough story to justify returning to the aftermath of Civil War he's right. If he insists that Black Widow doesn't explain the aftermath of Civil War he's wrong.

It shouldn't and doesn't need to return to Civil War aftermath (nor explain it, having done so)

But I do think the ability to return to said aftermath let them get away with a very barebones plot early that gave it MK Annihilation nonstop pointless action vibes-- they wouldn't have tried that without the tie in

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scarletspeed7
03/20/22 12:08:53 PM
#412:


Leonhart4 posted...
And I hold the perhaps more unpopular opinion that he was great in both...!
The writing in IM3 wasn't great (and it's a little par-for-the-course in Shang-Chi), but I think that Kingsley had excellent comedic timing in both!

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FFDragon
03/20/22 12:27:15 PM
#413:


but guys black widow being set when it was allowed them to explain one of the biggest MCU potholes -- where scarjo got that vest

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LinkMarioSamus
03/20/22 1:45:07 PM
#414:


I mean, it's obvious in hindsight the Black Widow movie was a backdoor Yelena pilot. But it's equally obvious in hindsight the Black Panther movie was a backdoor pilot for more Wakanda movies.

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LeonhartFour
03/20/22 1:47:52 PM
#415:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
But it's equally obvious in hindsight the Black Panther movie was a backdoor pilot for more Wakanda movies.

"they made the Black Panther movie so that they could make more Black Panther movies"

this is the most LMS post in the history of the world

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LinkMarioSamus
03/20/22 1:55:32 PM
#416:


I didn't just mean that, I meant to set up Wakanda to be progressively more important to later MCU films. The whole plot is about Wakanda opening itself to the world and ending its isolationist ways.

Admittedly I feel like I watch "franchise" films not terribly often, so I'm more inclined to judge how their stories work standalone than anything else.

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scarletspeed7
03/20/22 2:05:13 PM
#417:


You're more inclined to judge how their stories work according to people on Youtube.

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Seanchan
03/21/22 9:18:00 PM
#421:


Guardians of the Galaxy 2 is still a good movie.

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Lopen
03/21/22 9:45:39 PM
#422:


Watched Shang Chi last night

Very pleasant surprise. Enjoyed it quite a bit. Was getting worried new Marvel movies were going to go too deep down the rabbit hole of self-referencing the universe when it wasn't really the place for it (Black Panther released over 4 years ago was the last one that didn't do much of it-- Captain Marvel used Nick Fury as a bit of a crutch imo) but keeping it to just Wong and Trevor, very minor characters used very sparingly, let the new characters and lore properly stand on its own. Thought Shang Chi and Katy were great characters-- though I suspect Katy might be kinda polarizing.

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GuessMyUserName
03/21/22 9:57:58 PM
#423:


Katy has her detractors (many bothered by her getting a significant shot in during the kaiju battle), but I enjoyed the character and their friendship with Shang.

Loved the ending with them having dinner explaining the adventure to their friends in disbelief until Wong showed up, they're just very charismatic to me.

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Lopen
03/21/22 10:05:15 PM
#424:


GuessMyUserName posted...
many bothered by her getting a significant shot in during the kaiju battle

Yeah. True story that's exactly what I was thinking people might be SEETHING about, or at least would be the rallying cry for people who didn't like her.

Which I mean I understand where that's coming from. A big peeve of mine is when supporting mostly comic relief characters get too competent for their own good. I blame Gabrielle.

As long as she doesn't turn into Legolas in future entries and is just a naturally talented archer who got a lucky shot in a clutch moment let her have her time in the sun I say.

But yeah they just had good chemistry and interactions. Lots of good stuff throughout the film with them bantering, that last one being a great one.

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colliding
03/21/22 11:04:06 PM
#426:


man I really disliked shang chi aside from the actor who plays shang chi's dad (I love him in everything though)

that last fight/act is such a stinker; should've played it straight kung-fu the entire time

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Mr Lasastryke
03/22/22 3:15:18 AM
#427:


katy was annoying as hell.

shang-chi (the character) was meh.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/22/22 3:21:16 AM
#428:


colliding posted...
should've played it straight kung-fu the entire time

agree with this, it could have been awesome if they made it a retro kung fu style movie. just cast the guy who played bruce lee in once upon a time in hollywood.

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Aecioo
03/22/22 3:56:19 AM
#429:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
agree with this, it could have been awesome if they made it a retro kung fu style movie. just cast the guy who played bruce lee in once upon a time in hollywood.

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MoogleKupo141
03/22/22 4:02:44 AM
#430:


the problem is, and maybe the problem with any marvel movie, is they werent casting for a single film. They cast a guy whos going to be fighting Kang or Doom or whoever were building to.

I think theyve deliberately powered Shang Chi up a bit so they can have him be a core Avenger type guy instead of a c-list karate dude like he is in the comics.

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Aecioo
03/22/22 4:16:56 AM
#431:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
the problem is, and maybe the problem with any marvel movie, is they werent casting for a single film.

no the biggest problem is that you need to be aware of the events of civil war to understand the plot of what's happening in future movies


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XIII_rocks
03/22/22 10:19:39 AM
#432:


colliding posted...
that last fight/act is such a stinker;

I think I have never been more annoyed with an MCU movie than that fight with the dragon. Why the fuck. You don't need it.

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GuessMyUserName
03/23/22 5:28:08 PM
#433:


one week to go for Moon Knightttt

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mnkboy907
03/24/22 2:07:53 PM
#434:


Nova project in the works. No clarification yet on if it's a movie or show.

https://deadline.com/2022/03/marvel-nova-moon-knight-sabir-pirzada-1234985015/

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Waluigi1
03/26/22 12:24:36 PM
#435:


Oh I thought Moonknight was the 25 oops

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Pokalicious
03/26/22 11:44:26 PM
#436:


Been watching Daredevil for the first time these last couple of days. About to start the season one finale.

Man, what an amazing ride this has been!

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IfGodCouldDie
03/27/22 12:06:42 AM
#437:


I still haven't finished The Eternals

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FFDragon
03/27/22 11:52:57 AM
#439:


Playing the Guardians game and oh man I want more of this Mantis.

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GuessMyUserName
03/28/22 2:35:52 AM
#440:


https://twitter.com/ClintRLamb/status/1508293103312158730

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Waluigi1
03/28/22 12:38:43 PM
#441:


Wait, what happened? Lol

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Aecioo
03/28/22 1:05:07 PM
#442:


Waluigi1 posted...
Wait, what happened? Lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjEoDypUD8

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Seanchan
03/28/22 3:45:10 PM
#444:


UltimaterializerX posted...
A desperate publicity stunt happened last night because award shows are having their worst ratings in history. Anyone who actually buys this is a clown.

...really...you think that moment was a prearranged, designed "publicity stunt"?!? As opposed to the simpler explanation of Will Smith losing his head and doing something dumb...

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GuessMyUserName
03/28/22 3:50:25 PM
#445:


you're just supposed to enjoy the tasty tasty memes

both sides are fine and by all reports have made up, who cares beyond that

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Pokalicious
03/28/22 4:09:50 PM
#446:


UltimaterializerX posted...
It's an unreal show, and so good. S2 is weird, but S3 is the best one of all.
Now the question is, do I watch the other Marvel Netflix shows?

I guess I'm a tad curious about Jessica Jones and Punisher, but I honestly couldn't care less about Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

Will I miss anything important regarding Daredevil's season 2 and 3 if I don't watch any of the other shows, including The Defenders?

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RyoCaliente
03/28/22 4:14:19 PM
#447:


Pokalicious posted...
Now the question is, do I watch the other Marvel Netflix shows?

I guess I'm a tad curious about Jessica Jones and Punisher, but I honestly couldn't care less about Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

Will I miss anything important regarding Daredevil's season 2 and 3 if I don't watch any of the other shows, including The Defenders?

S3 kinda follows up directly from the Defenders.

I would also say that while I understand why people love DD S3, for me the majority of it is a retread from S1 which kinda bummed me out. I love all of JJ, the first half of LC and the second season I found very enjoyable, and Iron Fist is kinda lame all the way through. Punisher suffers from pacing issues, more than any of the others imo, but the core of it is pretty good.

Defenders isn't super amazing, but it is neat to see them interact and it's only like 8 episodes anyway.

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colliding
03/28/22 4:27:04 PM
#448:


this is maybe like the only time I've ever agreed with ulti about anything but I also think it's a stunt

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Mac Arrowny
03/28/22 4:39:23 PM
#449:


I don't really think DD S3 follows up that much on The Defenders, though Defenders does tie up some loose ends from S2.

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scarletspeed7
03/28/22 4:58:06 PM
#450:


Absolutely not a stunt. Absolutely not.

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CrashLightning
03/28/22 5:34:09 PM
#451:


Will The Defenders make sense if i skip Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist?
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scarletspeed7
03/28/22 5:50:43 PM
#452:


It's not complicated, though you might miss some of the context via, of all things, Iron Fist.

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