Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 381: Attack On Rittenhouse

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Mr Lasastryke 11/11/21 2:18:34 AM #51:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... I was curious about this so I did a little research: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ Interesting numbers. Obviously there's a disproportionate number of minorities in that list, but given all of the screeching in the last year, I would have figured it was far more biased. This leads credence to my point about police brutality being an accountability issue rather than a racism issue. only BT would observe that a disproportinate amount of minorities is killed by the police and conclude that "this leads credence to my point that the police isn't racist." --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:959891583] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>I was curious about this so I did a little research: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ Interesting numbers. Obviously there's a disproportionate number of minorities in that list, but given all of the screeching in the last year, I would have figured it was far more biased. This leads credence to my point about police brutality being an accountability issue rather than a racism issue.</quote> only BT would observe that a disproportinate amount of minorities is killed by the police and conclude that "this leads credence to my point that the police isn't racist." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/21 8:59:17 AM #52:	Well, it isn't that surprising when you look at the statistics of crime committed by race. The lesson here is that people either don't understand statistics, or ignore them when it doesn't suit their preferred political tribe's narrative --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:959896385] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Well, it isn't that surprising when you look at the statistics of crime committed by race. The lesson here is that people either don't understand statistics, or ignore them when it doesn't suit their preferred political tribe's narrative </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/11/21 1:38:43 PM #53:	It's funny how every liberal is talking about how corrupt and rigged this case is and every conservative is talking about how obvious this result was from the start. The only thing they agree on is that he will be found not guilty. Lol. (Every is hyperbole) --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik PSN User Name - Corrik7 Currently playing: Control (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:959904029] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>It's funny how every liberal is talking about how corrupt and rigged this case is and every conservative is talking about how obvious this result was from the start. The only thing they agree on is that he will be found not guilty. Lol. (Every is hyperbole) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 1:50:52 PM #54:	Rittenhouse Trial Update The first witness Defense called was a video expert who showed the exact seconds that it took between everything. But first, Binger objected because he "made character assumptions" with video by titling them "lunge" and "strike" as though that actually means anything. This included the Judge saying "is there a reason for that face?" when Binger gave him a shitty look and literally said, "Judge, I've had your ire yesterday, so I would like to please ask that you treat both of us the same." Literally "JUDGE PLEASE STOP BULLYING ME FOR VIOLATING CONSTITUTIONAL RULES AND BLATENTLY DISREGARDING YOUR RULINGS!" And the Judge was like "I was chastising you for violating a constitutional rule that has been here for 50 years and has nothing to do with that discussion." The Judge then said, "Hey how long does it take to change the name of these video files?" "Like five minutes." "Okay then change the video file names and we'll go forward." So the guy goes through each video to the millisecond of time it took between shots. This basically blows the fuck out of the Prosecution because he spent FOREVER talking about "Kyle, why did you decide to do this?" And presenting the slow-mo footage and trying to present that everything happened so unbelievably fast, which was important. My only criticism is that the Defense didn't make this point until AFTER the very dry testimony. Anyway, in case anyone was wondering, it was 1 second with all of the shots Kyle fired into Rosenbaum, and between the shot on Huber and the shot on Grosskuertz, it was 6.5 seconds, and overall from when Kyle was attacked to the time that Kyle had disengaged after the second set of shootings, it was only 3.5 minutes. This was pretty damaging to Binger's case. Binger opens by questioning how much he's being paid (lol) and then this footage that he's been using all trial to make his case, he tried to discredit by asking the man who originally recorded it. It's freaking wild. He had not much of anything. The next person was the detective who got all the bullets and Grosskuertz's gun from the second shooting. She testified all the bullets were accounted for that were shot and there were no bullets from the rifle that weren't shot, which lends to Kyle not racking the gun (like Grosskuertz has lied about and the video footage does not show him racking it at all), and to Binger's credit he got her to say that racking the gun doesn't necessarily mean that the bullet isn't used (just usually very unlikely). And now they have a right-leaning dude who went to all the violent protests that were happening. Very well-spoken and smart, despite whatever political affiliation he has. The footage spoke for itself and his testimony was outstanding for Kyle and backed up entirely by his footage. Proved that Rosenbaum absolutely went for the gun and wasn't falling on it like the Prosecution claimed. And then Binger comes on and tries a bunch of impotent discrediting statements and was like "OKAY BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY WERE RIOTERS?" "Because they were rioting, as clearly seen on the footage we were just watching." Like Binger was just awful here and so untrustworthy and the guy is a professional speaker. He kept trying to appeal to "He's a conservative so he's biased here." Really strange to bring up this is a political trial to the Jury when it's clear they have no evidence this should have gone to trial. And then he attempted to bring up that he hired the same law firm for a video dump that an expert retained. And the Judge got pissed, sent the jury to lunch, then was very close to reaming out Binger again because he's trying to violate attorney-client privilege laws now. The Judge is allowing him a little rope to discuss this, and knowing Binger he's very likely to get his ass chewed out when he oversteps again. That's my prediction. But honestly, there's no bias here because a phone information dump is no big deal at all and it wasn't like he was talking with them about the lawfirm. He already testified that the Prosecution also had the videos and did nothing with them (obviously). The Jury hates Binger. The Judge has had to send them away during his cross examinations at least five times now. He looks slimy and unreasonable and untrustworthy. There is no way the Jury has any reason to legitimately believe he's acting in good faith, especially after that miserable cross examination of Kyle yesterday. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959904380] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Rittenhouse Trial Update The first witness Defense called was a video expert who showed the exact seconds that it took between everything. But first, Binger objected because he "made character assumptions" with video by titling them "lunge" and "strike" as though that actually means anything. This included the Judge saying "is there a reason for that face?" when Binger gave him a shitty look and literally said, "Judge, I've had your ire yesterday, so I would like to please ask that you treat both of us the same." Literally "JUDGE PLEASE STOP BULLYING ME FOR VIOLATING CONSTITUTIONAL RULES AND BLATENTLY DISREGARDING YOUR RULINGS!" And the Judge was like "I was chastising you for violating a constitutional rule that has been here for 50 years and has nothing to do with that discussion." The Judge then said, "Hey how long does it take to change the name of these video files?" "Like five minutes." "Okay then change the video file names and we'll go forward." So the guy goes through each video to the millisecond of time it took between shots. This basically blows the fuck out of the Prosecution because he spent FOREVER talking about "Kyle, why did you decide to do this?" And presenting the slow-mo footage and trying to present that everything happened so unbelievably fast, which was important. My only criticism is that the Defense didn't make this point until AFTER the very dry testimony. Anyway, in case anyone was wondering, it was 1 second with all of the shots Kyle fired into Rosenbaum, and between the shot on Huber and the shot on Grosskuertz, it was 6.5 seconds, and overall from when Kyle was attacked to the time that Kyle had disengaged after the second set of shootings, it was only 3.5 minutes. This was pretty damaging to Binger's case. Binger opens by questioning how much he's being paid (lol) and then this footage that he's been using all trial to make his case, he tried to discredit by asking the man who originally recorded it. It's freaking wild. He had not much of anything. The next person was the detective who got all the bullets and Grosskuertz's gun from the second shooting. She testified all the bullets were accounted for that were shot and there were no bullets from the rifle that weren't shot, which lends to Kyle not racking the gun (like Grosskuertz has lied about and the video footage does not show him racking it at all), and to Binger's credit he got her to say that racking the gun doesn't necessarily mean that the bullet isn't used (just usually very unlikely). And now they have a right-leaning dude who went to all the violent protests that were happening. Very well-spoken and smart, despite whatever political affiliation he has. The footage spoke for itself and his testimony was outstanding for Kyle and backed up entirely by his footage. Proved that Rosenbaum absolutely went for the gun and wasn't falling on it like the Prosecution claimed. And then Binger comes on and tries a bunch of impotent discrediting statements and was like "OKAY BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY WERE RIOTERS?" "Because they were rioting, as clearly seen on the footage we were just watching." Like Binger was just awful here and so untrustworthy and the guy is a professional speaker. He kept trying to appeal to "He's a conservative so he's biased here." Really strange to bring up this is a political trial to the Jury when it's clear they have no evidence this should have gone to trial. And then he attempted to bring up that he hired the same law firm for a video dump that an expert retained. And the Judge got pissed, sent the jury to lunch, then was very close to reaming out Binger again because he's trying to violate attorney-client privilege laws now. The Judge is allowing him a little rope to discuss this, and knowing Binger he's very likely to get his ass chewed out when he oversteps again. That's my prediction. But honestly, there's no bias here because a phone information dump is no big deal at all and it wasn't like he was talking with them about the lawfirm. He already testified that the Prosecution also had the videos and did nothing with them (obviously). The Jury hates Binger. The Judge has had to send them away during his cross examinations at least five times now. He looks slimy and unreasonable and untrustworthy. There is no way the Jury has any reason to legitimately believe he's acting in good faith, especially after that miserable cross examination of Kyle yesterday. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 11/11/21 2:02:22 PM #55:	I guess my "It's my first day!" joke was somehow giving this prosecutor too much credit. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:959904778] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>I guess my "It's my first day!" joke was somehow giving this prosecutor too much credit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 2:11:31 PM #56:	kevwaffles posted... I guess my "It's my first day!" joke was somehow giving this prosecutor too much credit. Yes and no. They just have no facts in this case and it shouldn't have gone to trial. At this point, the Prosecution is just trying their best to make the Jury do anything to convict him, but unfortunately there's nothing here they can do but appeal to emotions and try scummy tactics. Unfortunately for him, the Judge is seeing right through all of it though, which means he's a good Judge. He's been more than fair, no matter what anyone says. It's just the Prosecution is doing so much bad faith acting he has no choice but to chastise them constantly. So when you see Binger here acting like a total idiot, it's out of desperation, not necessarily because he actually is an idiot. Everything he does is because it's literally the best case scenario for him at this point. It's just good to be disgusted and laugh at him because he's a Prosecutor and the majority of them are scum, and he has a particular arrogance about him and seeing him humiliate himself over this case is really satisfying. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959905041] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>kevwaffles posted... </cite> <quote>I guess my "It's my first day!" joke was somehow giving this prosecutor too much credit.</quote>Yes and no. They just have no facts in this case and it shouldn't have gone to trial. At this point, the Prosecution is just trying their best to make the Jury do anything to convict him, but unfortunately there's nothing here they can do but appeal to emotions and try scummy tactics. Unfortunately for him, the Judge is seeing right through all of it though, which means he's a good Judge. He's been more than fair, no matter what anyone says. It's just the Prosecution is doing so much bad faith acting he has no choice but to chastise them constantly. So when you see Binger here acting like a total idiot, it's out of desperation, not necessarily because he actually is an idiot. Everything he does is because it's literally the best case scenario for him at this point. It's just good to be disgusted and laugh at him because he's a Prosecutor and the majority of them are scum, and he has a particular arrogance about him and seeing him humiliate himself over this case is really satisfying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 3:33:13 PM #57:	lmao Gaige Grosskreutz is such a lying piece of shit. "Hey Grosskreutz, want to come on Good Morning America to attempt to salvage your civil case?" I loved "It was my lifelong duty to help people" when he was convicted for a violent burglary and isn't working as an EMT. I love that it ends with "WOW, HE WASN'T POINTING HIS GUN LIKE OTHER PEOPLE SAID." He literally admitted on the stand that he did so. I'm thinking he wants to drum up stuff for a civil case against Rittenhouse. https://youtu.be/oocNVvTHP5M --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959907441] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>lmao Gaige Grosskreutz is such a lying piece of shit. "Hey Grosskreutz, want to come on Good Morning America to attempt to salvage your civil case?" I loved "It was my lifelong duty to help people" when he was convicted for a violent burglary and isn't working as an EMT. I love that it ends with "WOW, HE WASN'T POINTING HIS GUN LIKE OTHER PEOPLE SAID." He literally admitted on the stand that he did so. I'm thinking he wants to drum up stuff for a civil case against Rittenhouse. https://youtu.be/oocNVvTHP5M </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/21 3:50:29 PM #58:	This trial is a great example of what happens when you let mob mentality try to dictate how the criminal justice system works. I'm actually surprised the Chauvin trial went down as it did, given how ballsy it was to go after a murder charge instead of the more appropriate manslaughter, but I think the people involved in that trial were more concerned about more riots than they were about laying appropriate charges. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:959907957] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>This trial is a great example of what happens when you let mob mentality try to dictate how the criminal justice system works. I'm actually surprised the Chauvin trial went down as it did, given how ballsy it was to go after a murder charge instead of the more appropriate manslaughter, but I think the people involved in that trial were more concerned about more riots than they were about laying appropriate charges. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/21 4:00:51 PM #59:	I saw somewhere that people were calling the 3 people Rittenhouse shot pedophile/abuser and such, and wow, I had not actually seen any of this: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/11/rittenhouse-victims-records/ tl;dr Rosenbaum was jailed for 15 years for sexually assaulting 5 children while Huber threatened and assaulted his brother/sister/grandmother. Grosskreutz only had minor items on his rap sheet, aside from one occurence of him being drunk while armed, so not sure where you're getting the violent robbery from. --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:959908278] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>I saw somewhere that people were calling the 3 people Rittenhouse shot pedophile/abuser and such, and wow, I had not actually seen any of this: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/11/rittenhouse-victims-records/ tl;dr Rosenbaum was jailed for 15 years for sexually assaulting 5 children while Huber threatened and assaulted his brother/sister/grandmother. Grosskreutz only had minor items on his rap sheet, aside from one occurence of him being drunk while armed, so not sure where you're getting the violent robbery from. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 11/11/21 4:02:15 PM #60:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... This included the Judge saying "is there a reason for that face?" when Binger gave him a shitty look and literally said, "Judge, I've had your ire yesterday, so I would like to please ask that you treat both of us the same." So the lawyer is playing into the perception that the trial is unfair and that's why he is failing. It sounds like the guy is trying to create good sound bites to make the trial look less legitimate so him losing wont matter. Same for why he brought up the witness being conservative. It's not for the jury at this point, it's for the public that will just see the clips with no context --- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:959908319] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>This included the Judge saying "is there a reason for that face?" when Binger gave him a shitty look and literally said, "Judge, I've had your ire yesterday, so I would like to please ask that you treat both of us the same."</quote>So the lawyer is playing into the perception that the trial is unfair and that's why he is failing. It sounds like the guy is trying to create good sound bites to make the trial look less legitimate so him losing wont matter. Same for why he brought up the witness being conservative. It's not for the jury at this point, it's for the public that will just see the clips with no context </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/21 4:08:09 PM #61:	Also sounds like Grosskreutz was part of some anarcho-communist cult, so I guess that goes to show what we're dealing with here --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:959908508] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Also sounds like Grosskreutz was part of some anarcho-communist cult, so I guess that goes to show what we're dealing with here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/21 4:09:02 PM #62:	Maniac64 posted... So the lawyer is playing into the perception that the trial is unfair and that's why he is failing. If you look on Reddit, even on general subs like r/news, the top voted comments are all people who get their news from Twitter complaining about how the justice system is broken and Rittenhouse should be flayed alive --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:959908539] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Maniac64 posted... </cite> <quote>So the lawyer is playing into the perception that the trial is unfair and that's why he is failing.</quote>If you look on Reddit, even on general subs like r/news, the top voted comments are all people who get their news from Twitter complaining about how the justice system is broken and Rittenhouse should be flayed alive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe 11/11/21 4:17:31 PM #63:	In other rabbit hole news, because people were making a big deal of the judge's ringtone of a song made in 1984 that was really popular after 9/11, turns out Len Greenwood did a version of the song called God Bless You Canada which is absolutely terrible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf3e9Cl1-Bs --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:959908801] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>In other rabbit hole news, because people were making a big deal of the judge's ringtone of a song made in 1984 that was really popular after 9/11, turns out Len Greenwood did a version of the song called God Bless You Canada which is absolutely terrible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf3e9Cl1-Bs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 11/11/21 4:35:27 PM #64:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... If you look on Reddit, even on general subs like r/news, the top voted comments are all people who get their news from Twitter complaining about how the justice system is broken and Rittenhouse should be flayed alive what are you talking about, this is not true lol --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:959909368] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>If you look on Reddit, even on general subs like r/news, the top voted comments are all people who get their news from Twitter complaining about how the justice system is broken and Rittenhouse should be flayed alive</quote> what are you talking about, this is not true lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 11/11/21 4:38:05 PM #65:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... This trial is a great example of what happens when you let mob mentality try to dictate how the criminal justice system works. I'm actually surprised the Chauvin trial went down as it did, given how ballsy it was to go after a murder charge instead of the more appropriate manslaughter, but I think the people involved in that trial were more concerned about more riots than they were about laying appropriate charges. it is legitimately staggering how often you post things like this with no self-awareness at all i am begging you to, just once, think before posting --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:959909479] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>This trial is a great example of what happens when you let mob mentality try to dictate how the criminal justice system works. I'm actually surprised the Chauvin trial went down as it did, given how ballsy it was to go after a murder charge instead of the more appropriate manslaughter, but I think the people involved in that trial were more concerned about more riots than they were about laying appropriate charges.</quote>it is legitimately staggering how often you post things like this with no self-awareness at all i am begging you to, just once, think before posting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 11/11/21 4:39:49 PM #66:	a lot of missing posts on this topic eh --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:959909527] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>a lot of missing posts on this topic eh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 11/11/21 4:42:53 PM #67:	To be fair, soundbites like these create themselves --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:959909625] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote> To be fair, soundbites like these create themselves </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StartTheMachine 11/11/21 4:51:20 PM #68:	For something entirely different (vaccine misinformation): https://youtu.be/5wRDLf54Scs Out of all the times I've seen grifters like Tim Pool using the same tactics of cherry picking an article and reorganizing it to fit a narrative, I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually alter the text itself before. A new low --- - Blur - Welcome to your Divinity. <cite>StartTheMachine posted [p:959909879] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>For something entirely different (vaccine misinformation): https://youtu.be/5wRDLf54Scs Out of all the times I've seen grifters like Tim Pool using the same tactics of cherry picking an article and reorganizing it to fit a narrative, I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually alter the text itself before. A new low </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 5:24:07 PM #69:	The Prosecution fought extremely hard to get this image admitted into court that proves that Kyle Rittenhouse pointed his gun before he was being chased. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959910768] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>The Prosecution fought extremely hard to get this image admitted into court that proves that Kyle Rittenhouse pointed his gun before he was being chased. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TotallyNotMI 11/11/21 5:24:43 PM #70:	Bigfoot?! --- I'm not sure who this MI guy is but he sounds sexy. <cite>TotallyNotMI posted [p:959910779] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Bigfoot?! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 11/11/21 5:50:13 PM #72:	GuessMyUserName posted... a lot of missing posts on this topic eh It's like a 50% chance. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:959911506] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>GuessMyUserName posted... </cite> <quote>a lot of missing posts on this topic eh</quote> It's like a 50% chance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 6:00:11 PM #73:	Welp, this is the last update on the Defense of Kyle Rittenhouse. So Binger didn't bother going back to going after the witness' attorneys because he knew it was thin ice. But that's okay because I finally get to say one thing nice about Prosecutor Binger. The break did him good because the reporter they got was kind of a dope and just made himself look bad because he couldn't stop saying "rioter" in every answer. He didn't like Binger, and it was clear, and even though the Jury and everyone on the planet doesn't like Binger, he still came across like kind of a dope who didn't have great answers to his leading questions. It felt more like he was trying to avoid being trapped? I dunno, but good laugh half of that cross examination for Binger. A very rare W for him. They got the visual guy from earlier in the day back on to finish up his testimony. Nothing noteworthy came of it. So that's it then. After this, they had a big ado about letting in blurry ass over enhanced grainy drone footage. I mentioned yesterday Prosecution needed to prove that the images they wanted to bring in would be accurate, because they wanted to show them to the Jury and go "This is Kyle Rittenhouse aiming his gun before he's chased." They could not find an expert, despite the visual guy I mentioned being right there. So they went with the guy who enhanced it that works for the state. This poor asshole was grilled and demolished by the Defendant and asked repeatedly his knowledge, what happens when you use this software to zoom in. Basically, they distinctly proved that they create more pixels and an algorithm guesses what color it is. So basically, if you have an already blurry and grainy image, enhance it, and you get something even more blurry and grainy. So after destroying this man, the big boy Prosecutor who got completely killed on cross two days ago tried to make a case and lead him into the answers he wanted, but it was clear this guy knew nothing about it but didn't want to give the wrong answers and didn't compare images and check to see if it's accurate. So the Defense then argues "This guy knows nothing and you asked them to get an expert because there's no expert to back up what they're saying, so they got this guy again." This absolute fucking asshole Prosecutor goes "Your Honor, with all due respect I think the Defense is trying to take advantage of your lack of knowledge." And he gets all pissed off and shitty and keeps accusing the Defense of bad faith here. Absolutely unprofessional. But what's even more insane? More maddening? Eventually the Judge walks up there and has to put his face against the big TV they have to even see what he's talking about. And despite Prosecution not making any sort of convincing case, the Judge allowed it. Absolutely mind-blowing stuff. Even the Judge admitted he didn't really trust them. I cannot understand this. But I will hear no more further bullshit about this Judge being biased. Not a single other word. I can't explain why this was let in or allowed. I'm profoundly confused. I think maybe he wanted to prove he's not biased or wanted to throw them a bone. But who cares, idiots on social media still want him to lose his job because he made a joke about he hopes his Asian food doesn't come overseas because of the shipping delays everywhere. So they rehash this in front of the Jury so they know that this image is full of bullshit, since the Defense argued with this "expert witness" again and made the same points that the images they would be shown are absolute trash and he did no due diligence to ensure they were accurate. I posted one of the images in question that is supposed to definitely show that Kyle raised his gun before he was chased. Absolute clown shit. The only thing I can think of is the Judge is going to be like "They're going to argue this is definitive proof on their closing statement and their arguments have been absolute madness so far and the Jury will see through it." This is a hail mary among hail mary's. Imagine you're on trial for something and your innocence relied on that picture. And that's it. They may or may not televise tomorrow's stuff, but the Jury will come back for closing arguments on Monday. They're hashing out jury instructions and other boring legal stuff in preparation for it tomorrow. No Jury will be there. Worth noting is that the Judge was like "Okay, I'll let you go on Monday, but please for the love of god do me a favor and keep it to one hour." And the Binger talked him into letting them have two and a half hours each to talk for their closing argument. About WHAT? There is nothing to his argument at all. I don't know what he can possibly whine about for two and a half hours that the Jury won't want to smash their heads off the table to make it end. So look forward to me likely being a grumpy boy on Monday, I guess. I don't anticipate I'll have much to say tomorrow, if it's even televised. But that's a wrap for the witnesses. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959911744] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Welp, this is the last update on the Defense of Kyle Rittenhouse. So Binger didn't bother going back to going after the witness' attorneys because he knew it was thin ice. But that's okay because I finally get to say one thing nice about Prosecutor Binger. The break did him good because the reporter they got was kind of a dope and just made himself look bad because he couldn't stop saying "rioter" in every answer. He didn't like Binger, and it was clear, and even though the Jury and everyone on the planet doesn't like Binger, he still came across like kind of a dope who didn't have great answers to his leading questions. It felt more like he was trying to avoid being trapped? I dunno, but good laugh half of that cross examination for Binger. A very rare W for him. They got the visual guy from earlier in the day back on to finish up his testimony. Nothing noteworthy came of it. So that's it then. After this, they had a big ado about letting in blurry ass over enhanced grainy drone footage. I mentioned yesterday Prosecution needed to prove that the images they wanted to bring in would be accurate, because they wanted to show them to the Jury and go "This is Kyle Rittenhouse aiming his gun before he's chased." They could not find an expert, despite the visual guy I mentioned being right there. So they went with the guy who enhanced it that works for the state. This poor asshole was grilled and demolished by the Defendant and asked repeatedly his knowledge, what happens when you use this software to zoom in. Basically, they distinctly proved that they create more pixels and an algorithm guesses what color it is. So basically, if you have an already blurry and grainy image, enhance it, and you get something even more blurry and grainy. So after destroying this man, the big boy Prosecutor who got completely killed on cross two days ago tried to make a case and lead him into the answers he wanted, but it was clear this guy knew nothing about it but didn't want to give the wrong answers and didn't compare images and check to see if it's accurate. So the Defense then argues "This guy knows nothing and you asked them to get an expert because there's no expert to back up what they're saying, so they got this guy again." This absolute fucking asshole Prosecutor goes "Your Honor, with all due respect I think the Defense is trying to take advantage of your lack of knowledge." And he gets all pissed off and shitty and keeps accusing the Defense of bad faith here. Absolutely unprofessional. But what's even more insane? More maddening? Eventually the Judge walks up there and has to put his face against the big TV they have to even see what he's talking about. And despite Prosecution not making any sort of convincing case, the Judge allowed it. Absolutely mind-blowing stuff. Even the Judge admitted he didn't really trust them. I cannot understand this. But I will hear no more further bullshit about this Judge being biased. Not a single other word. I can't explain why this was let in or allowed. I'm profoundly confused. I think maybe he wanted to prove he's not biased or wanted to throw them a bone. But who cares, idiots on social media still want him to lose his job because he made a joke about he hopes his Asian food doesn't come overseas because of the shipping delays everywhere. So they rehash this in front of the Jury so they know that this image is full of bullshit, since the Defense argued with this "expert witness" again and made the same points that the images they would be shown are absolute trash and he did no due diligence to ensure they were accurate. I posted one of the images in question that is supposed to definitely show that Kyle raised his gun before he was chased. Absolute clown shit. The only thing I can think of is the Judge is going to be like "They're going to argue this is definitive proof on their closing statement and their arguments have been absolute madness so far and the Jury will see through it." This is a hail mary among hail mary's. Imagine you're on trial for something and your innocence relied on that picture. And that's it. They may or may not televise tomorrow's stuff, but the Jury will come back for closing arguments on Monday. They're hashing out jury instructions and other boring legal stuff in preparation for it tomorrow. No Jury will be there. Worth noting is that the Judge was like "Okay, I'll let you go on Monday, but please for the love of god do me a favor and keep it to one hour." And the Binger talked him into letting them have two and a half hours each to talk for their closing argument. About WHAT? There is nothing to his argument at all. I don't know what he can possibly whine about for two and a half hours that the Jury won't want to smash their heads off the table to make it end. So look forward to me likely being a grumpy boy on Monday, I guess. I don't anticipate I'll have much to say tomorrow, if it's even televised. But that's a wrap for the witnesses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 11/11/21 6:05:12 PM #74:	throwback --- Kneel... or you will be knelt <cite>NFUN posted [p:959911885] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>throwback </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 6:10:49 PM #75:	NFUN posted... throwback lmfao god damnit. If only I knew that they frontloaded the only witnesses they had that were worth a damn. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959912033] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>NFUN posted... </cite> <quote>throwback </quote>lmfao god damnit. If only I knew that they frontloaded the only witnesses they had that were worth a damn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/11/21 6:12:47 PM #76:	Yeah image enhancement from blurry footage without inference is definitely not a thing; you cant add information you dont have by zooming in. Shame on Binger for trying to pull that shit. Also obligatory https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:959912096] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Yeah image enhancement from blurry footage without inference is definitely not a thing; you cant add information you dont have by zooming in. Shame on Binger for trying to pull that shit. Also obligatory https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 11/11/21 7:00:48 PM #77:	LordoftheMorons posted... Yeah image enhancement from blurry footage without inference is definitely not a thing; you cant add information you dont have by zooming in. Shame on Binger for trying to pull that shit. It probably would've worked on a lot of judges, sadly! --- It's Reyn Time. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:959913528] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah image enhancement from blurry footage without inference is definitely not a thing; you cant add information you dont have by zooming in. Shame on Binger for trying to pull that shit.</quote>It probably would've worked on a lot of judges, sadly! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/11/21 7:09:40 PM #78:	I think its sad how much attention the Rittenhouse trial is getting, meanwhile the Defense Attorney for the Ahmaud Arbery case literally complained that having black pastors in the courtroom might intimidate the jury. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:959913785] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>I think its sad how much attention the Rittenhouse trial is getting, meanwhile the Defense Attorney for the Ahmaud Arbery case literally complained that having black pastors in the courtroom might intimidate the jury. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 7:10:44 PM #79:	So here's more images they also presented. This is why they wanted to be able to enhance and zoom in further. I have seen this dude's name thrown around, but I don't know him or care, but this illustrates the amount of scumminess going on with these images. Comparison between both the original already enhanced one, and the further enhanced one. https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1458919593355919363?s=20 Comparison between the video from a second prior and then where they've stopped their image on. https://twitter.com/Evollove19Mac/status/1458932653831372805?s=20 They basically had this guy work like a mad man over the weekend to find a moment in this footage where, if further enhanced, it can look like Kyle is holding a rifle up because it's so much more blurry. And even then, Kyle would be holding the rifle in his opposite hand in these images too. Imagine that the Prosecutor wants to wrongfully put someone in jail this badly he's willing to do this. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959913818] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>So here's more images they also presented. This is why they wanted to be able to enhance and zoom in further. I have seen this dude's name thrown around, but I don't know him or care, but this illustrates the amount of scumminess going on with these images. Comparison between both the original already enhanced one, and the further enhanced one. https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1458919593355919363?s=20 Comparison between the video from a second prior and then where they've stopped their image on. https://twitter.com/Evollove19Mac/status/1458932653831372805?s=20 They basically had this guy work like a mad man over the weekend to find a moment in this footage where, if further enhanced, it can look like Kyle is holding a rifle up because it's so much more blurry. And even then, Kyle would be holding the rifle in his opposite hand in these images too. Imagine that the Prosecutor wants to wrongfully put someone in jail this badly he's willing to do this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 11/11/21 7:33:24 PM #80:	I appreciate the work PB --- IGN: Pandora <cite>htaeD posted [p:959914406] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>I appreciate the work PB</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/11/21 8:09:06 PM #81:	Jack Posobiec is, no exaggeration, one of the biggest pieces of shit in media/politics today. Can we not post him here unless were making fun of him, please? --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:959915343] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Jack Posobiec is, no exaggeration, one of the biggest pieces of shit in media/politics today. Can we not post him here unless were making fun of him, please? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 8:11:48 PM #82:	I don't know him at all, but I had gathered he was right leaning and some degree of an asshole. But piece of shit or not, he had the only picture I could find of precisely what I was talking about with these images so I'm not deleting it. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959915427] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>I don't know him at all, but I had gathered he was right leaning and some degree of an asshole. But piece of shit or not, he had the only picture I could find of precisely what I was talking about with these images so I'm not deleting it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 11/11/21 8:17:00 PM #83:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... I don't know him at all, but I had gathered he was right leaning and some degree of an asshole. But piece of shit or not, he had the only picture I could find of precisely what I was talking about with these images so I'm not deleting it. I'm not accusing you of anything here and I understand why you posted it, but in a typical situation, referring to Jack Posobiec on anything severely weakens a case, he's a very hardcore misinformationist <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:959915576] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't know him at all, but I had gathered he was right leaning and some degree of an asshole. But piece of shit or not, he had the only picture I could find of precisely what I was talking about with these images so I'm not deleting it.</quote>I'm not accusing you of anything here and I understand why you posted it, but in a typical situation, referring to Jack Posobiec on anything severely weakens a case, he's a very hardcore misinformationist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 8:21:43 PM #84:	Paratroopa1 posted... I'm not accusing you of anything here and I understand why you posted it, but in a typical situation, referring to Jack Posobiec on anything severely weakens a case, he's a very hardcore misinformationist Good to know, I'll keep that in mind for the future. I appreciate knowing bad actors. I'll at least attest that he isn't spreading misinformation in this instance. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959915733] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not accusing you of anything here and I understand why you posted it, but in a typical situation, referring to Jack Posobiec on anything severely weakens a case, he's a very hardcore misinformationist</quote>Good to know, I'll keep that in mind for the future. I appreciate knowing bad actors. I'll at least attest that he isn't spreading misinformation in this instance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/11/21 8:30:35 PM #85:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Good to know, I'll keep that in mind for the future. I appreciate knowing bad actors. I'll at least attest that he isn't spreading misinformation in this instance. Yeah, as Tony and Para have pointed out, the fact you couldnt find it elsewhere would genuinely concern me in most circumstances. Hes right wing propaganda and (like theyre accusing the prosecutor of) intentionally posts misleading or incomplete information. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:959915990] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>Good to know, I'll keep that in mind for the future. I appreciate knowing bad actors. I'll at least attest that he isn't spreading misinformation in this instance.</quote> Yeah, as Tony and Para have pointed out, the fact you couldnt find it elsewhere would genuinely concern me in most circumstances. Hes right wing propaganda and (like theyre accusing the prosecutor of) intentionally posts misleading or incomplete information. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RaidenGarai 11/11/21 8:33:51 PM #86:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... The Prosecution fought extremely hard to get this image admitted into court that proves that Kyle Rittenhouse pointed his gun before he was being chased. Holy shit they found Grimace --- https://www.twitch.tv/zerothe14th <cite>RaidenGarai posted [p:959916093] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>The Prosecution fought extremely hard to get this image admitted into court that proves that Kyle Rittenhouse pointed his gun before he was being chased. </quote>Holy shit they found Grimace </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/11/21 8:36:14 PM #87:	He looks like Mr Game and Watch --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:959916175] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>He looks like Mr Game and Watch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 8:39:46 PM #88:	Suprak the Stud posted... Yeah, as Tony and Para have pointed out, the fact you couldnt find it elsewhere would genuinely concern me in most circumstances. Hes right wing propaganda and (like theyre accusing the prosecutor of) intentionally posts misleading or incomplete information. Tbh I just picked the first one I could find. I didn't look too hard. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959916267] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, as Tony and Para have pointed out, the fact you couldnt find it elsewhere would genuinely concern me in most circumstances. Hes right wing propaganda and (like theyre accusing the prosecutor of) intentionally posts misleading or incomplete information.</quote>Tbh I just picked the first one I could find. I didn't look too hard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/11/21 8:43:01 PM #89:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... But piece of shit or not, he had the only picture I could find of precisely what I was talking about with these images so I'm not deleting it. PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Tbh I just picked the first one I could find. I didn't look too hard. More holes than the prosecutions story smh (Im just joking in case that isnt clear) --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:959916368] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>But piece of shit or not, he had the only picture I could find of precisely what I was talking about with these images so I'm not deleting it.</quote> PrivateBiscuit1 posted... </cite> <quote>Tbh I just picked the first one I could find. I didn't look too hard.</quote> More holes than the prosecutions story smh (Im just joking in case that isnt clear) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrivateBiscuit1 11/11/21 9:12:53 PM #90:	Suprak the Stud posted... More holes than the prosecutions story smh (Im just joking in case that isnt clear) Lol Honestly, the most frustrating part about this is how it's obviously going to attract so many right wing bad actors for this, because of course, but they don't even have to try hard for any grifts. But the left wing media has been so impossible insane about this to the point it feels like parody of what's actually happening. Like I can't even look to any left leaning sources because it's all a complete circus for anything important or clips or anything. --- I stream sometimes. Check it out! www.twitch.tv/heroicbiz/ <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:959917196] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>More holes than the prosecutions story smh (Im just joking in case that isnt clear)</quote>Lol Honestly, the most frustrating part about this is how it's obviously going to attract so many right wing bad actors for this, because of course, but they don't even have to try hard for any grifts. But the left wing media has been so impossible insane about this to the point it feels like parody of what's actually happening. Like I can't even look to any left leaning sources because it's all a complete circus for anything important or clips or anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 11/11/21 9:21:47 PM #91:	The left seems to be approaching this trial in the same way the right approaches...everything else, and the right is confused because they were...ALSO planning to approach this trial like that. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:959917414] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>The left seems to be approaching this trial in the same way the right approaches...everything else, and the right is confused because they were...ALSO planning to approach this trial like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/11/21 10:09:45 PM #92:	BlAcK TuRtLe posted... This trial is a great example of what happens when you let mob mentality try to dictate how the criminal justice system works. I'm actually surprised the Chauvin trial went down as it did, given how ballsy it was to go after a murder charge instead of the more appropriate manslaughter, but I think the people involved in that trial were more concerned about more riots than they were about laying appropriate charges. Could you please look into what the charges he was convicted of mean in Minnesota instead of spouting ignorance? Thanks --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:959918696] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>BlAcK TuRtLe posted... </cite> <quote>This trial is a great example of what happens when you let mob mentality try to dictate how the criminal justice system works. I'm actually surprised the Chauvin trial went down as it did, given how ballsy it was to go after a murder charge instead of the more appropriate manslaughter, but I think the people involved in that trial were more concerned about more riots than they were about laying appropriate charges.</quote> Could you please look into what the charges he was convicted of mean in Minnesota instead of spouting ignorance? Thanks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 11/12/21 4:58:03 AM #94:	PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Lol Honestly, the most frustrating part about this is how it's obviously going to attract so many right wing bad actors for this, because of course, but they don't even have to try hard for any grifts. Yeah I have already seen people say that this trial somehow proves that Biden stole the election and stuff... Opportunists gonna opportune --- IGN: Pandora <cite>htaeD posted [p:959925497] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>PrivateBiscuit1 posted...</cite> <quote> Lol Honestly, the most frustrating part about this is how it's obviously going to attract so many right wing bad actors for this, because of course, but they don't even have to try hard for any grifts. </quote> Yeah I have already seen people say that this trial somehow proves that Biden stole the election and stuff... Opportunists gonna opportune</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/12/21 9:16:19 AM #95:	https://twitter.com/anar_christ/status/1458899641265758210?s=21 --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:959929097] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/anar_christ/status/1458899641265758210?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/12/21 9:17:17 AM #96:	https://twitter.com/wsteaks/status/1459135584274890781?s=21 --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:959929122] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/wsteaks/status/1459135584274890781?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/12/21 9:28:40 AM #97:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... https://twitter.com/anar_christ/status/1458899641265758210?s=21 Seems like a weird take given the context of his speech but its the NY POST so of course they go for the right wing talking point headline. Biden said that more products are being delivered than ever before thats because people have a little more breathing room than they did last year. And thats a good thing. But it also means weve got higher demand for goods at the same time were facing disruptions in the supplies to make those goods. Earlier Wednesday, Biden urged Congress to tackle the highest annual inflation rate since 1990 by approving a bill with nearly $2 trillion in new social and environmental spending. That spending arguably would be paid for by tougher and broader IRS enforcement and new taxes on businesses and the rich. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:959929392] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/anar_christ/status/1458899641265758210?s=21</quote> Seems like a weird take given the context of his speech but its the NY POST so of course they go for the right wing talking point headline. <quote>Biden said that more products are being delivered than ever before thats because people have a little more breathing room than they did last year. And thats a good thing. But it also means weve got higher demand for goods at the same time were facing disruptions in the supplies to make those goods.</quote> <quote>Earlier Wednesday, Biden urged Congress to tackle the highest annual inflation rate since 1990 by approving a bill with nearly $2 trillion in new social and environmental spending. That spending arguably would be paid for by tougher and broader IRS enforcement and new taxes on businesses and the rich.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/12/21 9:40:34 AM #98:	Suprak the Stud posted... Seems like a weird take given the context of his speech but its the NY POST so of course they go for the right wing talking point headline. Imo the source and context dont matter as much as that headline being more fodder for radical centrists to say reduce government spending. His reasoning was wrong, but Trump was right that the media causes a lot of our problems (we could go into a whole side-discussion about how money is the cause, but yeah) --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:959929681] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>Seems like a weird take given the context of his speech but its the NY POST so of course they go for the right wing talking point headline.</quote> Imo the source and context dont matter as much as that headline being more fodder for radical centrists to say reduce government spending. His reasoning was wrong, but Trump was right that the media causes a lot of our problems (we could go into a whole side-discussion about how money is the cause, but yeah) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/12/21 10:12:51 AM #99:	Oh that part is 100% true. But the thing is my current position is "who the fuck cares what they think" because that is going to be their take no matter what is going on. And NY Post is going to find some way to twist headlines to fit that narrative anyway. Biden is at least saying the right sort of stuff if you look into it past their hysteria. Like his solution is an even bigger spending bill with social and environmental spending with sounds A+ to me. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:959930479] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>Oh that part is 100% true. But the thing is my current position is "who the fuck cares what they think" because that is going to be their take no matter what is going on. And NY Post is going to find some way to twist headlines to fit that narrative anyway. Biden is at least saying the right sort of stuff if you look into it past their hysteria. Like his solution is an even bigger spending bill with social and environmental spending with sounds A+ to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/12/21 10:19:11 AM #100:	That sounds ok, I just have zero faith in his ability to push it past Manchin and Sinema, unfortunately. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:959930641] in Politics C... [t:79753164]...</cite> <quote>That sounds ok, I just have zero faith in his ability to push it past Manchin and Sinema, unfortunately. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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