Poll of the Day > Alex Baldwin shot and killed someone

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likehelly 10/22/21 12:25:54 AM #1:	https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048246249/woman-killed-alec-baldwin-film-prop-firearm-new-mexico SANTA FE, N.M. The director of photography on a movie starring Alec Baldwin has been killed and the film's director injured, according to the sheriff's office of Santa Fe County, N.M. They were shot by a prop firearm that was discharged by Baldwin, who is also a producer on the film, the sheriff's office statement says. Halyna Hutchins, 42, the director of photography, was airlifted to the University of New Mexico hospital, where she was pronounced dead. The second victim, director Joel Souza, 48, was being cared for at Christus St. Vincent Medical Center. The investigation is ongoing and authorities say no charges have been filed in this incident. Detectives are continuing to interview witnesses. Production has been halted on the Western movie "Rust," which is being directed by Souza with Baldwin producing and acting. --- HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY <cite>likehelly posted [p:959273168] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2021/10/21/1048246249/woman-killed-alec-baldwin-film-prop-firearm-new-mexico <quote>SANTA FE, N.M. The director of photography on a movie starring Alec Baldwin has been killed and the film's director injured, according to the sheriff's office of Santa Fe County, N.M. They were shot by a prop firearm that was discharged by Baldwin, who is also a producer on the film, the sheriff's office statement says.</quote> <quote>Halyna Hutchins, 42, the director of photography, was airlifted to the University of New Mexico hospital, where she was pronounced dead. The second victim, director Joel Souza, 48, was being cared for at Christus St. Vincent Medical Center.</quote> <quote>The investigation is ongoing and authorities say no charges have been filed in this incident. Detectives are continuing to interview witnesses.</quote> <quote>Production has been halted on the Western movie "Rust," which is being directed by Souza with Baldwin producing and acting.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 10/22/21 12:33:34 AM #2:	If he fired a prop gun, I'd argue that the props master is actually the one who killed someone. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:959273307] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>If he fired a prop gun, I'd argue that the props master is actually the one who killed someone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 10/22/21 12:37:05 AM #3:	ParanoidObsessive posted... If he fired a prop gun, I'd argue that the props master is actually the one who killed someone. Exactly. Hes hardly at fault here. I feel sorry for him. --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/Khu5iBF <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:959273367] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>If he fired a prop gun, I'd argue that the props master is actually the one who killed someone.</quote> Exactly. Hes hardly at fault here. I feel sorry for him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 10/22/21 12:37:55 AM #4:	ParanoidObsessive posted... If he fired a prop gun, I'd argue that the props master is actually the one who killed someone. was it the prop masters decision for him to aim at the other directors with it and then pull the trigger --- HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY <cite>likehelly posted [p:959273379] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>If he fired a prop gun, I'd argue that the props master is actually the one who killed someone.</quote>was it the prop masters decision for him to aim at the other directors with it and then pull the trigger </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSlinja 10/22/21 12:39:56 AM #5:	likehelly posted... was it the prop masters decision for him to aim at the other directors with it and then pull the trigger no, it was the directors decision cause he was filming a movie in case you forgot --- DIRT ON ME I'M FINNA BLOSSOM <cite>TheSlinja posted [p:959273423] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>likehelly posted... </cite> <quote>was it the prop masters decision for him to aim at the other directors with it and then pull the trigger</quote>no, it was the directors decision cause he was filming a movie in case you forgot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 10/22/21 12:42:27 AM #6:	TheSlinja posted... no, it was the directors decision cause he was filming a movie in case you forgot but he is also a director on that movie --- HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY <cite>likehelly posted [p:959273464] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>TheSlinja posted... </cite> <quote>no, it was the directors decision cause he was filming a movie in case you forgot</quote>but he is also a director on that movie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firewood18 10/22/21 12:45:25 AM #7:	Im just glad this post doesnt have a poll. --- Nobody is perfect. Well, one guy was but we killed him. <cite>Firewood18 posted [p:959273528] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Im just glad this post doesnt have a poll. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Entity13 10/22/21 12:52:56 AM #8:	ParanoidObsessive posted... If he fired a prop gun, I'd argue that the props master is actually the one who killed someone. The props master would have to take that responsibility, but the burden may or may not be felt by the person (Alec in this case) holding the prop. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:959273657] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>If he fired a prop gun, I'd argue that the props master is actually the one who killed someone.</quote> The props master would have to take that responsibility, but the burden may or may not be felt by the person (Alec in this case) holding the prop. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 10/22/21 12:55:47 AM #9:	I get shooting someone with a prop gun and killing them by accident, but how do you shoot a SECOND person with the same gun afterwards? --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Friends don't make their friends die Hanz. Psychopathic friends do. <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:959273710] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>I get shooting someone with a prop gun and killing them by accident, but how do you shoot a SECOND person with the same gun afterwards? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Entity13 10/22/21 12:58:35 AM #10:	Manic confusion coupled with having a past you're not proud of (eg., drug abuse). --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:959273761] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Manic confusion coupled with having a past you're not proud of (eg., drug abuse). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 10/22/21 1:02:01 AM #11:	That's sad all around. Horrible for the woman whose life was cut short like this, as well as traumatizing for Baldwin. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:959273811] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>That's sad all around. Horrible for the woman whose life was cut short like this, as well as traumatizing for Baldwin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 10/22/21 1:23:18 AM #12:	What part of shooting a scene (pun not intended) involves shooting someone, presumably by accident, and then shooting a second person without noticing the first shot. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:959274174] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>What part of shooting a scene (pun not intended) involves shooting someone, presumably by accident, and then shooting a second person without noticing the first shot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 10/22/21 1:27:03 AM #13:	Oh, it was an accident. Thought maybe he finally snapped. --- In my opinion, all slavery is wrong, even the really fancy kind - Mead <cite>Zareth posted [p:959274244] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Oh, it was an accident. Thought maybe he finally snapped. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 10/22/21 1:52:43 AM #14:	sources are saying he was charging his Samsung Galaxy s8 --- wieners and farts??? idk lol <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:959274648] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>sources are saying he was charging his Samsung Galaxy s8 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 10/22/21 2:09:01 AM #15:	i don't understand whatever reference that is --- i want you, to matter to you forget those backstabbers <cite>helIy posted [p:959274870] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>i don't understand whatever reference that is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Shadow 10/22/21 5:13:48 AM #16:	https://twitter.com/BBCBweaking/status/1451394335900147718?t=QoZEVgkvLPXDN9aUjRhP3Q&s=19 --- GT My Lord Shadow "Your Grace, please, the people have surrendered..." "I didn't offer surrender." <cite>Lord_Shadow posted [p:959276818] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/BBCBweaking/status/1451394335900147718?t=QoZEVgkvLPXDN9aUjRhP3Q&s=19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeUsername529 10/22/21 7:23:37 AM #17:	Alec <cite>SomeUsername529 posted [p:959278025] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Alec </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/22/21 7:42:38 AM #18:	DirtBasedSoap posted... sources are saying he was charging his Samsung Galaxy s8 god dammit why is this always so funny --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:959278243] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>DirtBasedSoap posted... </cite> <quote>sources are saying he was charging his Samsung Galaxy s8</quote> god dammit why is this always so funny </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 10/22/21 12:14:47 PM #19:	a tweet from 2017 lol --- wieners and farts??? idk lol <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:959284362] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote> a tweet from 2017 lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornedLion 10/22/21 12:33:27 PM #20:	This movie is going to make a killing! --- I'm actually really enjoying GodFall. <cite>HornedLion posted [p:959284857] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>This movie is going to make a killing! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 10/22/21 12:42:47 PM #21:	"Fun" fact, my show is filming down the road from where this happened. I have some friends and colleagues on Rust, but they stopped responding to me when the police arrived. Really sad day, but there were warnings. The camera team had just left a day or 2 prior, walked off set, in part because of the bad gun safety on set. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:959285120] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>"Fun" fact, my show is filming down the road from where this happened. I have some friends and colleagues on Rust, but they stopped responding to me when the police arrived. Really sad day, but there were warnings. The camera team had just left a day or 2 prior, walked off set, in part because of the bad gun safety on set. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 10/22/21 12:44:05 PM #22:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... Really sad day, but there were warnings. The camera team had just left a day or 2 prior, walked off set, in part because of the bad gun safety on set. wow, crazy. someones goin to jail --- wieners and farts??? idk lol <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:959285150] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>Really sad day, but there were warnings. The camera team had just left a day or 2 prior, walked off set, in part because of the bad gun safety on set.</quote> wow, crazy. someones goin to jail </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 10/22/21 12:55:30 PM #23:	Entity13 posted... The props master would have to take that responsibility, but the burden may or may not be felt by the person (Alec in this case) holding the prop. Kinda this. The show has/had an armorer, which is not uncommon on a show with a lot of guns, especially antique ones, so they could be to blame as well. My thought it is had to be live ammo, since there's no way a blank, even improperly loaded, should be able to shoot through someone, and strike someone behind them, which is what happened. Something went horrible wrong either way, this wasn't a "freak" accident or an acceptable risk type of thing, that much I can tell you. But this was also a low budget show, filled with unqualified people at these positions it sounds like. The camera crew actually resigned the night before, siting many reasons, among other things, improper weapon safety on set. This was an on-going issue the Producer KNEW about. That said, blame could be placed on Baldwin as well. The actor themselves is supposed to review and check a gun on set with the Prop Master/armorer, you don't just trust them at face value. And even then, you NEVER aim a gun at someone on set, prop gun or otherwise. In fact, you almost always cheat the angle and camera to make it look like a gun is pointed at someone in a movie, when it's really angled well over their shoulder or something. So for Baldwin to have shot the DP during rehearsal means he was breaking safety protocols there as well. AND as writer/producer, he can certainly be held responsible for this as well. Heads need to roll over this. This should never, ever have happened. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:959285455] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Entity13 posted... </cite> <quote>The props master would have to take that responsibility, but the burden may or may not be felt by the person (Alec in this case) holding the prop.</quote>Kinda this. The show has/had an armorer, which is not uncommon on a show with a lot of guns, especially antique ones, so they could be to blame as well. My thought it is had to be live ammo, since there's no way a blank, even improperly loaded, should be able to shoot through someone, and strike someone behind them, which is what happened. Something went horrible wrong either way, this wasn't a "freak" accident or an acceptable risk type of thing, that much I can tell you. But this was also a low budget show, filled with unqualified people at these positions it sounds like. The camera crew actually resigned the night before, siting many reasons, among other things, improper weapon safety on set. This was an on-going issue the Producer KNEW about. That said, blame could be placed on Baldwin as well. The actor themselves is supposed to review and check a gun on set with the Prop Master/armorer, you don't just trust them at face value. And even then, you NEVER aim a gun at someone on set, prop gun or otherwise. In fact, you almost always cheat the angle and camera to make it look like a gun is pointed at someone in a movie, when it's really angled well over their shoulder or something. So for Baldwin to have shot the DP during rehearsal means he was breaking safety protocols there as well. AND as writer/producer, he can certainly be held responsible for this as well. Heads need to roll over this. This should never, ever have happened. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 10/22/21 1:01:22 PM #24:	Seems like a lot of negligence transpired in many different positions. Can't wait to see the lawsuit. --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:959285613] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Seems like a lot of negligence transpired in many different positions. Can't wait to see the lawsuit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 10/22/21 1:24:09 PM #25:	helIy posted... i don't understand whatever reference that is Phone go boom boom --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:959286283] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>helIy posted... </cite> <quote>i don't understand whatever reference that is</quote>Phone go boom boom </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 10/22/21 1:30:57 PM #26:	but it was the galaxy note 7 that exploded --- HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY <cite>likehelly posted [p:959286494] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>but it was the galaxy note 7 that exploded </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Criminalt 10/22/21 1:41:54 PM #27:	Apparently Hutchins was brought upon a Soviet military base in the Arctic Circle. That's got to have been one tough upbringing. --- Take me to the dark <cite>Criminalt posted [p:959286810] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Apparently Hutchins was brought upon a Soviet military base in the Arctic Circle. That's got to have been one tough upbringing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 10/22/21 1:46:56 PM #28:	likehelly posted... but it was the galaxy note 7 that exploded The plot thickens --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:959286947] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>likehelly posted... </cite> <quote>but it was the galaxy note 7 that exploded</quote>The plot thickens </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/22/21 1:48:38 PM #29:	likehelly posted... was it the prop masters decision for him to aim at the other directors with it and then pull the trigger I love how you cut out the part of the article where it says they were shooting a scene. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959286984] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote> was it the prop masters decision for him to aim at the other directors with it and then pull the trigger </quote> I love how you cut out the part of the article where it says they were shooting a scene.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 10/22/21 2:20:35 PM #30:	apparently they weren't shooting. they were doing an unfilmed dress rehearsal between scenes. there was 1 live round and 1 bullet shot through both people. --- https://imgur.com/4ihiyS2 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:959287863] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>apparently they weren't shooting. they were doing an unfilmed dress rehearsal between scenes. there was 1 live round and 1 bullet shot through both people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teddy241 10/22/21 2:21:52 PM #31:	HornedLion posted... This movie is going to make a killing! Alright Crypt-Keeper <cite>teddy241 posted [p:959287900] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>HornedLion posted... </cite> <quote>This movie is going to make a killing!</quote>Alright Crypt-Keeper </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bugmeat 10/22/21 3:00:19 PM #32:	wolfy42 posted... I get shooting someone with a prop gun and killing them by accident, but how do you shoot a SECOND person with the same gun afterwards? Both of the people shot are people who are likely to be in the area behind the camera and it's not unlikely that the gun would be pointed toward the camera. If the scene called for him to fire multiple rounds in quick succession, he could easily hit multiple people before realizing something was wrong. --- "DO NOT INTIMIDATE ROBO-DUDE." <cite>Bugmeat posted [p:959288989] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>I get shooting someone with a prop gun and killing them by accident, but how do you shoot a SECOND person with the same gun afterwards?</quote> Both of the people shot are people who are likely to be in the area behind the camera and it's not unlikely that the gun would be pointed toward the camera. If the scene called for him to fire multiple rounds in quick succession, he could easily hit multiple people before realizing something was wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dmess85 10/22/21 3:03:34 PM #33:	i hope they kick him out of the Film Actor's Guild for this. --- Previewing your message before you post is for suckers. --- <cite>Dmess85 posted [p:959289069] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>i hope they kick him out of the Film Actor's Guild for this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 10/22/21 4:10:18 PM #34:	How the fuck could this happen again after Brandon Lee? --- In my opinion, all slavery is wrong, even the really fancy kind - Mead <cite>Zareth posted [p:959290996] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>How the fuck could this happen again after Brandon Lee? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gaminggamer13 10/22/21 5:41:30 PM #35:	I'm just a passerby here, yes, what happened was a tragic accident, whoever was in charge of props should be held accountable for incorrectly handling the gun. At the same time... Alec should be held accountable as well. He didn't know the gun was loaded, yes, but he still killed someone. That cannot be justified or denied. If it could, then we wouldn't have tens of thousands of articles reporting on the incident. I assume he'd just flash some money around and walk away like nothing happened, because actors are always above the law. cough Amber Heard cough If this occurred away from the set, and it was just a bunch of ordinary Joe's mucking around with a prop gun, and misfired, I'd assume there'd be a huge inquest into the crime, and the person would be charged with manslaughter. But hey, if an actor commits a crime, its okay, cause he cried a few tears and is cooperating with police. I kinda doubt he'd take responsibility of the incident, or acknowledge the reality of the situation. No way in hell would he be willing to be charged, if there will be any. Just a tragic incident overall, just kinda miffed people are in denial over the gravity of the situation, instead of solely honing in on the props crew, blame also lies elsewhere with the actor that actually killed someone. <cite>gaminggamer13 posted [p:959293426] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>I'm just a passerby here, yes, what happened was a tragic accident, whoever was in charge of props should be held accountable for incorrectly handling the gun. At the same time... Alec should be held accountable as well. He didn't know the gun was loaded, yes, but he still killed someone. That cannot be justified or denied. If it could, then we wouldn't have tens of thousands of articles reporting on the incident. I assume he'd just flash some money around and walk away like nothing happened, because actors are always above the law. cough Amber Heard cough If this occurred away from the set, and it was just a bunch of ordinary Joe's mucking around with a prop gun, and misfired, I'd assume there'd be a huge inquest into the crime, and the person would be charged with manslaughter. But hey, if an actor commits a crime, its okay, cause he cried a few tears and is cooperating with police. I kinda doubt he'd take responsibility of the incident, or acknowledge the reality of the situation. No way in hell would he be willing to be charged, if there will be any. Just a tragic incident overall, just kinda miffed people are in denial over the gravity of the situation, instead of solely honing in on the props crew, blame also lies elsewhere with the actor that actually killed someone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/22/21 6:04:54 PM #36:	gaminggamer13 posted... I'm just a passerby here, yes, what happened was a tragic accident, whoever was in charge of props should be held accountable for incorrectly handling the gun. At the same time... Alec should be held accountable as well. He didn't know the gun was loaded, yes, but he still killed someone. That cannot be justified or denied. If it could, then we wouldn't have tens of thousands of articles reporting on the incident. I assume he'd just flash some money around and walk away like nothing happened, because actors are always above the law. cough Amber Heard cough If this occurred away from the set, and it was just a bunch of ordinary Joe's mucking around with a prop gun, and misfired, I'd assume there'd be a huge inquest into the crime, and the person would be charged with manslaughter. But hey, if an actor commits a crime, its okay, cause he cried a few tears and is cooperating with police. I kinda doubt he'd take responsibility of the incident, or acknowledge the reality of the situation. No way in hell would he be willing to be charged, if there will be any. Just a tragic incident overall, just kinda miffed people are in denial over the gravity of the situation, instead of solely honing in on the props crew, blame also lies elsewhere with the actor that actually killed someone. I flat out dont like Alec Baldwin, but he is a victim in this accident as well it seems. Unless something fishy turns up in the investigation it doesnt seem fair to blame him for the tragedy unless he was doing something knowingly reckless --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:959294022] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>gaminggamer13 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm just a passerby here, yes, what happened was a tragic accident, whoever was in charge of props should be held accountable for incorrectly handling the gun. At the same time... Alec should be held accountable as well. He didn't know the gun was loaded, yes, but he still killed someone. That cannot be justified or denied. If it could, then we wouldn't have tens of thousands of articles reporting on the incident. I assume he'd just flash some money around and walk away like nothing happened, because actors are always above the law. cough Amber Heard cough If this occurred away from the set, and it was just a bunch of ordinary Joe's mucking around with a prop gun, and misfired, I'd assume there'd be a huge inquest into the crime, and the person would be charged with manslaughter. But hey, if an actor commits a crime, its okay, cause he cried a few tears and is cooperating with police. I kinda doubt he'd take responsibility of the incident, or acknowledge the reality of the situation. No way in hell would he be willing to be charged, if there will be any. Just a tragic incident overall, just kinda miffed people are in denial over the gravity of the situation, instead of solely honing in on the props crew, blame also lies elsewhere with the actor that actually killed someone.</quote> I flat out dont like Alec Baldwin, but he is a victim in this accident as well it seems. Unless something fishy turns up in the investigation it doesnt seem fair to blame him for the tragedy unless he was doing something knowingly reckless </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 10/22/21 7:14:30 PM #37:	@CyborgSage00x0 i was in Albuquerque last week and they covered a few houses in a neighborhood in fake snow. You know anything about that? --- wieners and farts??? idk lol <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:959295888] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>@CyborgSage00x0 i was in Albuquerque last week and they covered a few houses in a neighborhood in fake snow. You know anything about that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 10/22/21 11:26:59 PM #38:	DirtBasedSoap posted... @CyborgSage00x0 i was in Albuquerque last week and they covered a few houses in a neighborhood in fake snow. You know anything about that? That was Better Call Saul --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:959302984] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>DirtBasedSoap posted... </cite> <quote>@CyborgSage00x0 i was in Albuquerque last week and they covered a few houses in a neighborhood in fake snow. You know anything about that?</quote>That was Better Call Saul </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/22/21 11:36:11 PM #39:	gaminggamer13 posted... I'm just a passerby here, yes, what happened was a tragic accident, whoever was in charge of props should be held accountable for incorrectly handling the gun. At the same time... Alec should be held accountable as well. He didn't know the gun was loaded, yes, but he still killed someone. That cannot be justified or denied. If it could, then we wouldn't have tens of thousands of articles reporting on the incident. I assume he'd just flash some money around and walk away like nothing happened, because actors are always above the law. cough Amber Heard cough If this occurred away from the set, and it was just a bunch of ordinary Joe's mucking around with a prop gun, and misfired, I'd assume there'd be a huge inquest into the crime, and the person would be charged with manslaughter. But hey, if an actor commits a crime, its okay, cause he cried a few tears and is cooperating with police. I kinda doubt he'd take responsibility of the incident, or acknowledge the reality of the situation. No way in hell would he be willing to be charged, if there will be any. Just a tragic incident overall, just kinda miffed people are in denial over the gravity of the situation, instead of solely honing in on the props crew, blame also lies elsewhere with the actor that actually killed someone. The rest of your post is an oxymoron. CyborgSage00x0 posted... That was Better Call Saul I wonder how close they are to airing it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959303189] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>gaminggamer13 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm just a passerby here, yes, what happened was a tragic accident, whoever was in charge of props should be held accountable for incorrectly handling the gun. At the same time... Alec should be held accountable as well. He didn't know the gun was loaded, yes, but he still killed someone. That cannot be justified or denied. If it could, then we wouldn't have tens of thousands of articles reporting on the incident. I assume he'd just flash some money around and walk away like nothing happened, because actors are always above the law. cough Amber Heard cough If this occurred away from the set, and it was just a bunch of ordinary Joe's mucking around with a prop gun, and misfired, I'd assume there'd be a huge inquest into the crime, and the person would be charged with manslaughter. But hey, if an actor commits a crime, its okay, cause he cried a few tears and is cooperating with police. I kinda doubt he'd take responsibility of the incident, or acknowledge the reality of the situation. No way in hell would he be willing to be charged, if there will be any. Just a tragic incident overall, just kinda miffed people are in denial over the gravity of the situation, instead of solely honing in on the props crew, blame also lies elsewhere with the actor that actually killed someone. </quote> The rest of your post is an oxymoron. CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote> That was Better Call Saul </quote> I wonder how close they are to airing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Entity13 10/22/21 11:39:25 PM #40:	Revelation34 posted... I wonder how close they are to airing it. I'd call it a snowball's chance in Albuquerque, but... --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:959303262] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>I wonder how close they are to airing it.</quote> I'd call it a snowball's chance in Albuquerque, but... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/22/21 11:43:13 PM #41:	Entity13 posted... I'd call it a snowball's chance in Albuquerque, but... I don't know how hot it gets there. It snowed in various places in Maricopa a little bit last year. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959303338] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Entity13 posted...</cite> <quote> I'd call it a snowball's chance in Albuquerque, but... </quote> I don't know how hot it gets there. It snowed in various places in Maricopa a little bit last year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 10/23/21 12:21:03 AM #42:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... That was Better Call Saul omg no way --- wieners and farts??? idk lol <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:959304221] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>That was Better Call Saul</quote>omg no way </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 10/23/21 3:00:36 AM #43:	Some new evidence is in... it looks like the on-set armourer is going to get heavily slammed since not only were they inexperience, but there is a strike going on and they're a scab. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:959306746] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Some new evidence is in... it looks like the on-set armourer is going to get heavily slammed since not only were they inexperience, but there is a strike going on and they're a scab. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonClaw01 10/23/21 9:57:26 AM #44:	No crap. It is the armorer's responsibility to check that the gun is loaded with blanks. I would imagine they are going to get more than being "heavily slammed", probably some criminal negligence charges at the very least. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous <cite>DragonClaw01 posted [p:959311172] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>No crap. It is the armorer's responsibility to check that the gun is loaded with blanks. I would imagine they are going to get more than being "heavily slammed", probably some criminal negligence charges at the very least. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/23/21 11:19:38 AM #45:	DragonClaw01 posted... No crap. It is the armorer's responsibility to check that the gun is loaded with blanks. I would imagine they are going to get more than being "heavily slammed", probably some criminal negligence charges at the very least. https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/23/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-saturday/index.html Let's blame Alec Baldwin some more now! --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959312712] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>DragonClaw01 posted...</cite> <quote>No crap. It is the armorer's responsibility to check that the gun is loaded with blanks. I would imagine they are going to get more than being "heavily slammed", probably some criminal negligence charges at the very least. </quote> https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/23/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-saturday/index.html Let's blame Alec Baldwin some more now!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chelsea_wtf 10/23/21 11:37:42 AM #46:	Mead posted... I flat out dont like Alec Baldwin, but he is a victim in this accident as well it seems. Unless something fishy turns up in the investigation it doesnt seem fair to blame him for the tragedy unless he was doing something knowingly reckless i don't think he's culpable for pulling the trigger, but he's absolutely culpable for being a producer on this shitshow of a movie. this was the third time they loaded live ammo into a gun that wasn't even supposed to have blanks --- hi im chelsea ^__^ You have entered the lair of SOMA - the Sega Online Machine Agent. Turn back now, or prepare to be digitized! <cite>chelsea_wtf posted [p:959313138] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>I flat out dont like Alec Baldwin, but he is a victim in this accident as well it seems. Unless something fishy turns up in the investigation it doesnt seem fair to blame him for the tragedy unless he was doing something knowingly reckless</quote> i don't think he's culpable for pulling the trigger, but he's absolutely culpable for being a producer on this shitshow of a movie. this was the third time they loaded live ammo into a gun that wasn't even supposed to have blanks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatalAccident 10/23/21 11:38:17 AM #47:	Sage I thought you worked in a hospital? Or is all this coming from friends you know who work in film --- walks away <cite>FatalAccident posted [p:959313163] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Sage I thought you worked in a hospital? Or is all this coming from friends you know who work in film </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
argonautweakend 10/23/21 11:42:09 AM #48:	Not really sure what you'd charge Alec Baldwin with, if it is indeed a case of the prop master being negligent. He is a producer on the film, but the role of a producer varies wildly from film to film. some producers on some films do a lot of hands on stuff, some do absolutely nothing other than pony up some cash. If it is determined Alec had no role, as producer, in the props, then I really don't know what you'd charge him with. People say Alec is also responsible, but I just don't see how this is in any way his fault. <cite>argonautweakend posted [p:959313248] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Not really sure what you'd charge Alec Baldwin with, if it is indeed a case of the prop master being negligent. He is a producer on the film, but the role of a producer varies wildly from film to film. some producers on some films do a lot of hands on stuff, some do absolutely nothing other than pony up some cash. If it is determined Alec had no role, as producer, in the props, then I really don't know what you'd charge him with. People say Alec is also responsible, but I just don't see how this is in any way his fault. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 10/23/21 11:42:51 AM #49:	Revelation34 posted... The rest of your post is an oxymoron. Something can both be an accident and be blamed on somebody. If you have a responsibility to prevent certain mistakes from happening, allowing them to happen is negligent. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:959313272] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>The rest of your post is an oxymoron.</quote> Something can both be an accident and be blamed on somebody. If you have a responsibility to prevent certain mistakes from happening, allowing them to happen is negligent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/23/21 12:02:05 PM #50:	chelsea_wtf posted... i don't think he's culpable for pulling the trigger, but he's absolutely culpable for being a producer on this shitshow of a movie. this was the third time they loaded live ammo into a gun that wasn't even supposed to have blanks good point --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:959313699] in Alex Baldw... [t:79722676]...</cite> <quote>chelsea_wtf posted... </cite> <quote>i don't think he's culpable for pulling the trigger, but he's absolutely culpable for being a producer on this shitshow of a movie. this was the third time they loaded live ammo into a gun that wasn't even supposed to have blanks</quote> good point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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