Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 379: Kabulshit

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red sox 777 posted...

Yes, what I mean is that the right falls in line behind the conservative party very well. For whatever reasons the left/center has not figured out the benefits of falling in line or just doesn't care.

it's called "having principes."

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Leafeon13N posted...

You could have just said your post was unrelated to the conspiracy nuts in the thread. Then you double downed on the unproven part of it(and falsely claiming its only been a year, it has actually been 5).

Doubling down on what unproven part?

Havana Syndrome itself is literally unproven, what are you arguing about?

I genuinely dont know what your issue is here?

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The source is unproven. The condition itself is not.

Changes literally nothing about what I said, lol

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Changes literally nothing about what I said, lol

That is literally different from what the post you just made said.

I understand now.

Because of the way your brain works when reading my posts, you think I was saying the symptoms are a fake conspiracy, but from the first post I said what I meant, the source is literally a presumed conspiracy:

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

potential (read: not proven in any way) directed-radiation related injuries within a year of it happening, with 0 people voting against it, and yet compensation for literally countless other people with provable illnesses and injuries is basically impossible.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

They passed a bill giving compensation to people for a condition they literally havent identified the source of.

I guess thats technically conspiracy but the source of the conspiracy accusation is the government itself, so get off my dick

inb4 you do that thing where you assume your interpretation of my post is actually what I really meant, despite the fact that you can see from my responses that Im not, or Id have understood what you were saying.

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https://twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/1431612712396615680?s=19

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Yeah, like one of the cases was literally I was at an intersection in my car, and my kid started crying in the back seat while I got a migraine. When my kid stopped crying my migraine went away.

Whats more likely, a directed radiation weapon (something that should be impossible) shooting some guy and his kid for a couple minutes, or a stressed out guy with a crying kid having a migraine?

The symptoms are real, the source is a conspiracy theory.

And I say again, it is very funny that we can unanimously pass a bill compensating them for it.

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I mean, we've always been able to get universal support behind our troops and our intelligence agencies and have struggled to do the same behind "everyone else".

That's really the entire bottom line that needs to be focused on.

And if our intelligence agents have brain damage (regardless of cause) then sure, they should receive assistance.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

The symptoms are real, the source is a conspiracy theory.

The source is unknown and the theories paraded around in that twitter thread(and now parroted by another non-tony user here) are conspiracy theories.

Also the people upset at people getting health care that need health care are mostly hypocrites.

Leafeon13N posted...

The source is unknown and the theories paraded around in that twitter thread(and now parroted by another non-tony user here) are conspiracy theories.

Also the people upset at people getting health care that need health care are mostly hypocrites.

You absolutely don't get to play tbat healthcare card here. That is bullshit. You traded it for a dam

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

You absolutely don't get to play tbat healthcare card here. That is bullshit. You traded it for a dam

That literally had nothing to do with health care.

Can't waste time fighting for stuff. Got dams to repair.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Can't waste time fighting for stuff. Got dams to repair.

That was literally fighting for something we (close to got) in the following months. Your memory is failing you here.

(That was the bill in December Trump almost self sabotaged over $2000 checks. No one was fighting for health care)

same principle, I know it isn't literal healthcare.

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Leafeon13N posted...

Also the people upset at people getting health care that need health care are mostly hypocrites.

There is nothing hypocritical about making fun of the government for making special exceptions for healthcare for service members even when the source is literally unknown instead of doing something more universal or even just making sure service members had adequate healthcare from the start. It is the entire point of the "lol"

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

same principle, I know it isn't literal healthcare.

Not even close. Because you are choosing to cherry pick something i identified as in the bill when the whole debate was that the alternative to it was likely nothing in the bill passing, which would have fucked a lot of people(unemployment extension was also in that bill if i recall).

Leafeon13N posted...

The source is unknown and the theories paraded around in that twitter thread(and now parroted by another non-tony user here) are conspiracy theories.

No dude, the working theory posed by the government, based on literally zero evidence, is that its caused by a directed weapon of some sort from a foreign power.

Thats the definition of a conspiracy theory. We are making fun of it, you are defending it.

Thus, YOU are the conspiracy theorist.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

There is nothing hypocritical about making fun of the government for making special exceptions for healthcare for service members even when the source is literally unknown instead of doing something more universal or even just making sure service members had adequate healthcare from the start. It is the entire point of the "lol"

The people that keep getting propped up here are the ones focusing on the first part, adding their own conspiratorial nonsense, and barely or not at all mentioning the second part.

Hell the tweet you just linked never mentions health care. Just baseless conspiracy about something already teetering on conspiracy.

Leafeon13N posted...

Hell the tweet you just linked never mentions health care. Just baseless conspiracy about something already teetering on conspiracy.

It's literally making fun of the conspiracy theories. Is that also a conspiracy according to you? Should we be peer-reviewing jokes?

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

It's literally making fun of the conspiracy theories. Is that also a conspiracy according to you? Should we be peer-reviewing jokes?

The tweet you linked literally thinks the neurological issues are fake.

Leafeon13N posted...

The tweet you linked literally thinks the neurological issues are fake.

This is the same person replying to their own tweet:

https://twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/1431613565836922885?s=21

Literally what are you talking about, dude?

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Leafeon13N posted...

The tweet you linked literally thinks the neurological issues are fake.

No? Even if you interpreted it that way you can literally just read the replies and see them discussing other medical causes of the symptoms.

https://twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/1431613565836922885?s=19

Here is another joke they made that includes the word healthcare, as per your other request

https://twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/1440542938308612099?s=19

You gotta stop making up guys to be mad at

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

This is the same person replying to their own tweet:

https://twitter.com/spacetwinks/status/1431613565836922885?s=21

Literally what are you talking about, dude?

That is literally exactly what I am talking about.

Unless this guy is really a doctor that has examined these patients.

I'm not sure thinking heatstroke and stress are more likely than secret radiation beams makes you a conspiracy theorist. Armchair diagnosis isn't unreasonable like it usually is given the circumstances.

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Leafeon13N posted...

That is literally exactly what I am talking about.

Unless this guy is really a doctor that has examined these patients.

Dude, the experts you arent quoting have literally said they dont know the cause.

You have yet to make a point besides laughing at the idea that its a conspiracy is a conspiracy.


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I mean there are plenty of sources claiming that "foreign attack" is the unofficial stance of the US government on this even though they publicly deny it, and a handful of scientific experts and papers published as recently as last year supporting the microwave theory. There's a lot of legitimate, but conflicting information! So I would get calling the skeptics conspiracy theorists if one were to believe the scattered support for the microwave weapon, but it's the both-sidesing here that's baffling me.

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The microwaves are the leading theory, but even the proponents of it say its inconclusive, because of how theres no evidence something like that can even be created.

Some of the experts theyve asked said it could be acoustic, radio frequency, or even lasers. I cannot emphasize any harder how little evidence they have of the source, literally all they have is the symptoms.

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Sanders, my dude, I'd have expected you to know better than this!

https://twitter.com/maxpcohen/status/1440757902583558146

(Following news in Congress has just been soul-crushingly depressing these past couple of weeks I'm just waiting to see how it all turns out but what a fucking shitshow)

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Narrator voice: It turns out, Republicans are that crazy.

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Right, and I'll say I point this out not to give credibility to the theory because information turns out to be wrong all the time, but mostly to point out we DO have semi-official support for it. I mean, it was openly the US's stance at one point, when we accused Cuba of using sonic weaponry over it, and we know enough to know that there's still leftover support for that as it's being investigated, being treated basically as fact even though the facts are up in the air. And it's precisely that with the lack of evidence that makes it so memeable.

As far as conspiracy theories go this would be a pretty harmless one EXCEPT it's a shadow policy accepted by some circles in the government and you can actually see it affect policy and foreign relations. At that point what is even left to do but joke about how absurd the entire situation is?

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Man what a headline. This really does make it feel like politics is stuck in a time loop

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1440784677434916868?s=19

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Man what a headline. This really does make it feel like politics is stuck in a time loop

https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1440784677434916868?s=19

I almost posted this exact link, but I didnt feel like someone arguing with me about it being good and necessary, actually

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It's really time we stop giving Republicans credit, and treat them the way they treat us.

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Dancedreamer posted...

It's really time we stop giving Republicans credit, and treat them the way they treat us.

I would like to not have a civil war thanks

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masterplum posted...

I would like to not have a civil war thanks

Considering how many Republicans GENUINELY believe the election was stolen and are eagerly awaiting the day Biden gets arrested and killed, I think its inevitable tbh.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Considering how many Republicans GENUINELY believe the election was stolen and are eagerly awaiting the day Biden gets arrested and killed, I think its inevitable tbh.

The moment someone fires a shot 99% of them retreat. A civil war isn't likely. Widespread civil unrest is probably as far as it ever gets.

Yeah, leaving wasn't the issue. Hell Trump was gonna leave also.

sorry to bring up an old corrik comment from the previous topic but uh... is this true? did trump say he wanted to withdraw from aghanistan? why didn't he do it?

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masterplum posted...

I would like to not have a civil war thanks

So you admit that Republicans are a danger to the well being of the country. Good centrism you've got there

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Peace___Frog posted...

So you admit that Republicans are a danger to the well being of the country. Good centrism you've got there

When have I ever not said that lol

I am absolutely not a centrist. Dont confuse some of my right wing stances with thinking the Republican Party isnt a fascist dumpster fire


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masterplum posted...

found out my ex-wife is an anti vaxer now.

Not saying I want anything to happen, but getting out of child support a decade early would be nice

Yeahhhh... Hopefully this vaccine mandate goes into effect soon so she loses her job too.

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Oh yeah, the coin discourse is back. Gotta love it.

https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1441005132641095680?s=19

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tucker straight out naming the The Great Replacement as policy in action jesus fucking christ

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

sorry to bring up an old corrik comment from the previous topic but uh... is this true? did trump say he wanted to withdraw from aghanistan? why didn't he do it?

Yes. He made the exit deal with the Taliban and Afghan government. He set a deadline for early in what he thought would be his second term.

But then he lost and Biden just continued his planned departure but with a delay in the deadline.

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And now Trump wants to send troops back to get the equipment we left

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Isn't it mostly stuff we gave to the Afghan military and no longer technically belongs to us?

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Maniac64 posted...

Yes. He made the exit deal with the Taliban and Afghan government. He set a deadline for early in what he thought would be his second term.

But then he lost and Biden just continued his planned departure but with a delay in the deadline.

ok. good move by trump, though i'm not exactly sure why four years was apparently not long enough to get the troops out of there.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

ok. good move by trump, though i'm not exactly sure why four years was apparently not long enough to get the troops out of there.

He didn't reach the deal with the Taliban until 2020. Our negotiator in chief ended up getting a promise from them that they would no longer harbor terrorists. Which is somewhat better than nothing, I suppose.

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