Poll of the Day > Vaccinations vs Faith.

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Lobomoon
09/12/21 6:25:43 PM
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Do you think that the fact that even religious people are forced to take vaccines proves the diminishing importance of faith and religions in our daily lives?

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Clench281
09/12/21 6:29:29 PM
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There's no intrinsic reason that religiously motivated beliefs deserve any greater consideration than other beliefs.

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adjl
09/12/21 6:29:41 PM
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I think that any god that expects their followers to eschew life-saving technology for no reason isn't worth worshipping.

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Lobomoon
09/12/21 6:34:20 PM
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Clench281 posted...
There's no intrinsic reason that religiously motivated beliefs deserve any greater consideration than other beliefs.

Even if they are an essential part of any functional society?

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Clench281
09/12/21 6:35:23 PM
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Lobomoon posted...
Even if they are an essential part of any functional society?

I don't see why I need to entertain a hypothetical premise that is untrue

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adjl
09/12/21 6:38:19 PM
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Lobomoon posted...
Even if they are an essential part of any functional society?

A certain degree of moral consensus is an essential part of any functional society. Religion is just one way to achieve that, and that doesn't mean that all beliefs encompassed within a given religion are categorically more important than beliefs of any other sort.

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jsb0714
09/12/21 6:43:35 PM
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What good has faith and/or religion ever done?
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Lobomoon
09/12/21 6:48:28 PM
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adjl posted...
I think that any god that expects their followers to eschew life-saving technology for no reason isn't worth worshipping.

This is one of the reasons that majority of religions try to promote the concept of after-life.

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Clench281
09/12/21 6:50:08 PM
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Lobomoon posted...
This is one of the reasons that majority of religions try to promote the concept of after-life.
... Are you implying that the concept of the afterlife only came to be after modern medical technology?

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Mead
09/12/21 6:51:38 PM
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They need to get vaccinated.

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ArvTheGreat
09/12/21 7:08:51 PM
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Doesnt seem like the vaccine does that good so faith it is

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ArvTheGreat
09/12/21 7:09:32 PM
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jsb0714 posted...
What good has faith and/or religion ever done?
What has the vaccine ever done

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BEERandWEED
09/12/21 7:13:48 PM
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Clench281 posted...
I don't see why I need to entertain a hypothetical premise that is untrue
If it's hypothetical, how do you know it's untrue?
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Clench281
09/12/21 7:26:18 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
What has the vaccine ever done
... Prevented severe complications and/or death for most all those who've gotten it?

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agesboy
09/12/21 7:36:55 PM
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adjl posted...
I think that any god that expects their followers to eschew life-saving technology for no reason isn't worth worshipping.
theres been a million variations on the joke/story, but this one is always still relevant

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/c4rvqk/a_man_jumps_off_a_cliff_with_faith_that_god_will/

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SunWuKung420
09/12/21 7:39:40 PM
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Many have faith in science, despite all these of its faults.

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agesboy
09/12/21 7:47:25 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Many have faith in science, despite all these of its faults.
science fundamentally admits it's probably wrong about a lot of things and if you can prove otherwise please do so so we can be more right in the future

religion is generally a lot less flexible, though many pastors are great and don't rely on the immutability of the text

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adjl
09/12/21 7:52:20 PM
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agesboy posted...
theres been a million variations on the joke/story, but this one is always still relevant

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/c4rvqk/a_man_jumps_off_a_cliff_with_faith_that_god_will/

Pretty much. Mankind has been blessed - whether by a deity or by evolutionary dumb luck - with the free will and intelligence to go toe-to-toe with diseases that would have annihilated any other species (though, arguably, no other species lives a lifestyle that would permit such diseases to arise). To believe that a deity was responsible for that blessing but also doesn't want us using it is just silly and arbitrary.

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Far-Queue
09/12/21 7:53:11 PM
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Hey do you think they're referring to the company or the country

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jsb0714
09/12/21 8:03:35 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
What has the vaccine ever done
More than faith and religion.
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Blighboy
09/12/21 8:24:19 PM
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Imagine being Jesus, wasting all your "cure disease" spells on a bunch of nobodies from ten thousand years ago, and then having to wait Millenia for your mana to recharge while Covid ravages your faithful followers.

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Judgmenl
09/12/21 8:31:56 PM
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lmao, God makes vaccines so you don't have to have faith.
This is an example of the the drowning man story that evangelicals like.

Y'all just fucking delusional.

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Lynyrd_Skynyrd
09/12/21 8:37:50 PM
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agesboy posted...
theres been a million variations on the joke/story, but this one is always still relevant

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/c4rvqk/a_man_jumps_off_a_cliff_with_faith_that_god_will/
Yep. I love this joke. No reason you can't look at it as a blessing from God that they were able to create the vaccines
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papercup
09/12/21 8:40:41 PM
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If God didn't want people to take vaccines, he wouldn't have given humans the ability to make vaccines.

Checkmate, theists. Where is your God now?

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Cacciato
09/12/21 9:33:06 PM
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Far-Queue posted...


Hey do you think they're referring to the company or the country
Lmao
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Gaawa_chan
09/12/21 9:39:02 PM
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Religions don't say jack shit about vaccines and anyone who says otherwise is full of shit. Deliberately misreading religious texts so you can engage in otherwise unacceptable behavior should never be viewed as someone exercising genuine faith. :-/

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ReturnOfFa
09/12/21 9:53:37 PM
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'Faith' has always fucked over communities in certain ways, even if there are 'positives' to the community it can foster.

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Cacciato
09/12/21 9:55:07 PM
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TC has always struggled to compare two different things, mainly because he has no fucking idea of what one of those things usually are.
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MushroomMuncher
09/12/21 10:01:56 PM
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Lobomoon posted...
This is one of the reasons that majority of religions try to promote the concept of after-life.
People want what is the best for them. The atheist belief of a dark void of nothing after you die and nothing in your life mattering in the end isn't in people's best wishes. This wasn't a concept created with religion.

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Mead
09/12/21 10:02:58 PM
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MushroomMuncher posted...
The atheist belief of a dark void of nothing after you die

not all atheists believe in such a thing

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MushroomMuncher
09/12/21 10:06:12 PM
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Mead posted...
not all atheists believe in such a thing
Oh i'm sure some atheists believe in something else that happens after death.

All 3 of them

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Mead
09/12/21 10:07:57 PM
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MushroomMuncher posted...
Oh i'm sure some atheists believe in something else that happens after death.

All 3 of them

Did this sound witty or clever in your head? Maybe not quite so cringe?

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Lobomoon
09/12/21 10:08:28 PM
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You are confusing atheism and nihilism.

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MushroomMuncher
09/12/21 10:10:32 PM
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Mead posted...
Did this sound witty or clever in your head? Maybe not quite so cringe?
I can sense the seethe in this post

Lobomoon posted...
You are confusing atheism and nihilism.
Yes they are two completely different things that is true. One is flying very close to the sun and one IS the sun.

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Mead
09/12/21 10:22:05 PM
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MushroomMuncher posted...
I can sense the seethe in this post

more of a fleeting bemusement

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