Board 8 > I've got an interview for my dream job tomorrow. Wish me luck!

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I haven't told anyone because I don't want to jinx it (too much), but I've gotta share with B8.

Given the competition and my previous experience with the hiring process at this institution, I'm not realistically expecting to land this thing, but I can't help expressing my excitement and giving it my all tomorrow.

If I get the offer, it might be one of the best days of my life.

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Best of luck mate. I'm rooting for you!

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You already know youve GOT this

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Good luck! I'm looking forward to the future post expressing your joy!

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Good luck!

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Kill it man

GL

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Best of luck!

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Awesome to hear!

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oh man could we even handle baig2?

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Good luck!

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FFDragon posted...

oh man could we even handle baig2?

lol they're literally running this right now on the trash heap of a board that is CE.

Eleven YEARS behind the curve.

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good luck!! what makes it your dream job?
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Anyway, in case anyone is interested, I can divulge more about the interview. It's for a lecturer of financial literacy position at my local university. As a part-time finance instructor for the past two years, I applied as an internal candidate, which I'm hoping will provide me a slight edge. However, my actual finance credentials probably lag behind the competition (my masters degree and the bulk of my work experience are in accounting).

Teaching has been, by leaps and bounds, the funnest and most rewarding job I've ever had, but doing so at the part-time level pays poverty wages (I'm almost ashamed to divulge what I've been making), so I really needed an opportunity like this to eventually spring up.

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Have you actually taken any teaching courses? I'm just curious because I've always wanted to do something similar for accounting, but don't have any teaching background.
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Shaduln posted...

Have you actually taken any teaching courses? I'm just curious because I've always wanted to do something similar for accounting, but don't have any teaching background.

Nothing official. Prior to landing the part-time role, my only somewhat relevant experience was as a Graduate Assistant (glorified tutor) for this same finance department while I was in grad school. Luckily, I made a good impression on the department chair, and he remembered me when they needed a part-timer almost five years after I graduated.

Based on my experience, I'd say landing a part-time teaching gig is much more attainable at whichever school you actually attended. Do you keep in touch with any of the accounting faculty there?

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oh man - good luck. i've never taught, but it would also be my dream job.
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good luck my man.

sounds like you have the right attitude- let's see where this goes!

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

(I'm almost ashamed to divulge what I've been making)

No shame necessary. It's an important job - not your fault that salaries right now are shit across the board.

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Good luck, dude. I sometimes wonder how I'd have done at the university level.

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Wishing you all the best.

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good luck!

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GO YO Gooooooo


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wrist control that interviewer and topsy turvy that motherfucker

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Good luck!

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Pssh like he needs luck. Hes already got the skillz to pay the billz.

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but society has tricked you into thinking any job should be worthy of a dream, maaaannnnnnn

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kill it man, I hope you get it!

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Good luck.

Also good luck that the job doesn't turn out to totally suck shit.

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Good luck pal.

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Best of luck, yo. Hoping this swings your way!

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I do have to say that I did quite like actually lecturing students when I TA'd; I just hated that it came with extremely unfun tasks like grading. Though maybe you'd have TAs of your own to deal with that for you?

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Finished! I feel like I had solid answers for the panel's questions and did an effective job selling myself. They said the final decision will be made within the next week or two, leading me to believe that this may have been the only round of interviews. Guess we'll see.

LordoftheMorons posted...

I do have to say that I did quite like actually lecturing students when I TA'd; I just hated that it came with extremely unfun tasks like grading. Though maybe you'd have TAs of your own to deal with that for you?

Yep, I've had access to the TAs even as a part-timer, but I've never asked them to grade since I don't mind doing that myself (it's kinda fun!). I might lean on them more if I ever get busier, though.

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Nice, good luck with the result.

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yo got this

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good luck

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That job sounds cool but completely attainable, especislly with your background which seems pretty appropriate. That makes for a pretty shit dream. But it might be a nice reality for a while. You always gotta keep looking for the next thing!

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foolm0r0n posted...

That job sounds cool but completely attainable, especislly with your background which seems pretty appropriate. That makes for a pretty shit dream. But it might be a nice reality for a while. You always gotta keep looking for the next thing!

It's a well-paying (for my standards), highly rewarding job with summers off. It's also usually low stress. It checks every single one of my boxes.

But yeah generally speaking, you're right - being a lecturer doesn't command nearly the same pay or prestige as being a tenured professor who produces research, so it may not be a "dream" for most career academics (though I've never been one of those anyway). A PhD is necessary for the latter, and that's a huge barrier to entry for many people (many also do prefer teaching to research, despite the enormous pay difference).

Though I will say that lecturing fulltime might be less attainable than the PhD-required professor positions that pay more than double. Fulltime lecturer positions can be exceedingly rare - if you don't have a PhD, a university will usually use you in an adjunct role for peanuts (which has been the case for me since 2019). This is the first fulltime lecturer position I've seen offered in this specific department for at least a decade, which is why I'm trying to temper my expectations despite my excitement.

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

But yeah generally speaking, you're right - being a lecturer doesn't command nearly the same pay or prestige as being a tenured professor who produces research, so it may not be a "dream" for most career academics (though I've never been one of those anyway). A PhD is necessary for the latter, and that's a huge barrier to entry for many people (many also do prefer teaching to research, despite the enormous pay difference).

I had several teachers in community college who left professor positions at prestigious universities because they wanted to focus more on teaching than research. I think it's pretty common

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foolm0r0n posted...

That job sounds cool but completely attainable, especislly with your background which seems pretty appropriate. That makes for a pretty shit dream. But it might be a nice reality for a while. You always gotta keep looking for the next thing!

There's nothing wrong with having a realistic dream instead of unobtainable bullshit.

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No response yet. All department faculty received an email asking if there were any among us who were ok switching their in-person classes to remote instruction on short notice. I responded that I'd happily teach either in-person or remotely and would do whatever the department feels is best for my students (I consider this a flex because I know there are older faculty members who have detested online instruction and will protest it if they can).

I leveraged this flex by then immediately asking for an update on the position... so yeah we'll see.

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I don't think I got it. =/

Bummer news, but thank you everyone for your support. I'll keep trying.

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no worries. i was always a fan of the shotgun approach to interviews anyway

each interview that doesn't result in a job is practice for the next one. schools in particular are loathe to promote from within

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Aw man. Like ban said, it's all practice and experience

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Its 100% their loss dude, they fucked up

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Gotta vent a bit

This is the second time I've reached the final interview stage of a lecturer position within this university, so hopefully next time is the charm. The problem is that "next time" might not be for another five years (unless I'm willing to move, which I probably am at this point).

I don't feel proud admitting it, but this one stings badly. When I couldn't seal the deal last year (for a job with the accounting department), I lost to a lady with an incredible reputation and skillset. As a part-timer, she was teaching a specialized grad-level course that hadn't even been offered in years. I had no problem taking that L and fully acknowledged her as the most qualified candidate for that job.

During this interview, the hiring department told me they were looking for a mutual long-term commitment with someone who could excite students about finance and possibly encourage some of them to pursue it as a major...

so of course, they select a retiree pushing 70, who, as far as I understand, has a reputation as a lousy teacher. Perhaps I'll reevaluate and come to accept the decision based on merit, but for now, it's hard not to feel like a victim of internal academic politics.

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Damn, sucks, but hopefully just use it a practice for the next one. Academia is weird.

Similar thing just happened to me. Found a great job, looked like I was the final candidate and then they're like, actually we're hiring someone from within that turned us down three months ago and changed their mind.

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Unbelievable!


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CaptainOfCrush posted...

so of course, they select a retiree pushing 70, who, as far as I understand, has a reputation as a lousy teacher. Perhaps I'll reevaluate and come to accept the decision based on merit, but for now, it's hard not to feel like a victim of internal academic politics.

My mom works in academia. I've heard lots of stories. Internal academic politics are INCREDIBLY rampant like you wouldn't believe. The amount of nepotism probably runs deeper than in an actual corporation. Don't take this as a referendum on yourself - other guy got chosen due to connections. Sorry it didn't work out for you.

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