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Leonhart4
07/17/21 11:37:23 PM
#101:


Also the Bucks have won 3 straight since Amin Elhassan said he didn't think they were capable of winning a single game in this series

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Suprak the Stud
07/17/21 11:41:29 PM
#102:


I feel like its worth remembering Gianniss knee was going the wrong direction like two weeks ago.

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xp1337
07/17/21 11:42:14 PM
#103:


Leonhart4 posted...
I think my Suns in 5 pick isn't going to pan out
my curse kicked in the moment i agreed with you on suns in 5

sorry phoenix

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MZero
07/17/21 11:45:50 PM
#104:


xp1337 posted...
my curse kicked in the moment i agreed with you on suns in 5

sorry phoenix

I was going to curse you but I think you're a Jets fan, you've suffered enough

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Leonhart4
07/17/21 11:46:56 PM
#105:


Hey at least he's not a Kings fan

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RaidenGarai
07/17/21 11:48:31 PM
#106:


Holiday's steal on Booker will always be overshadowed by the Giannis block from game 4, but that was outstanding.

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BlueCrystalTear
07/18/21 12:02:57 AM
#107:


It seemed like the Bucks lost interest in winning midway through the 4th quarter and only found it again when it was a one-point game. You can't take your foot off the gas when the other team has their foot on the gas.

That last minute was something else though, and that strip-steal was incredible. (I say this despite this being the first time I've ever cared about the NBA - simply because of the fair weather in Wisconsin, if you know what I mean.)
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guffguy89
07/18/21 12:23:07 AM
#108:


The Giannis block in Game 4. The steal and oop in Game 5. Some memorable tight finishes after 3 routs before that. go bucks!

There were a lot of people saying the Suns were going to easily win this after Game 2. I always felt that was premature simply because it was their 2 home games. I feel like talk like that shouldnt start until the other team gets a chance to defend themselves at home. That's not to say that they didnt play well, because they did, and they have continued to play well outside of Game 3. These last two games went down to the wire and the bucks were fortunate enough to snag them both.

I am very optimistic about the Bucks chances in Game 6, but I know the Suns are tough and they'll need to play their A-game to hold down the fort at home.

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Fastbreak
07/18/21 2:57:56 AM
#109:


Leonhart4 posted...
Hey at least he's not a Kings fan

I came here to be attacked thanks

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DeepsPraw
07/18/21 3:00:15 AM
#110:


ya go my bucks

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SeabassDebeste
07/18/21 12:37:45 PM
#111:


yeah i definitely thought the series was over

still feels kind of wrong when the bucks do win but i guess that's crisp all for you
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Leonhart4
07/18/21 12:42:02 PM
#112:


Fastbreak posted...
I came here to be attacked thanks

Hey you could be a Cowboys fan

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MZero
07/18/21 12:54:35 PM
#113:


The Suns definitely earned that L but Holiday fouled Booker on that steal. No one cares because Booker got away with worse at the end of Game 4, but I wonder if things would be different if Booker fouled out when he was supposed to. I think that moment turned the Suns into the villains in many people's eyes, unfortunately. To be clear, I'm not blaming the refs, it's just an observation

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Leonhart4
07/18/21 1:00:05 PM
#114:


I think it's more Giannis has impressed the heck out of everyone with his performance in the series and he's really easy to like

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RaidenGarai
07/18/21 1:01:55 PM
#115:


We love Giannis here.

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MZero
07/18/21 1:11:08 PM
#116:


Leonhart4 posted...
I think it's more Giannis has impressed the heck out of everyone with his performance in the series and he's really easy to like

Giannis is my favorite player so I definitely see that angle too!

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ChainLTTP
07/18/21 1:17:30 PM
#117:


I went to Greece a few years ago and they absolutely HATE Giannis. Might be an immigrant thing.
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SeabassDebeste
07/18/21 1:49:25 PM
#118:


giannis is maybe my favorite non celtic but the way he plays so recklessly does bother me
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guffguy89
07/18/21 3:10:49 PM
#120:


ChainLTTP posted...
I went to Greece a few years ago and they absolutely HATE Giannis. Might be an immigrant thing.

That's not what I've heard from everywhere else. Though I know I've heard giannis say how he faced a lot of discrimination growing up there, so its possible I suppose.

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RaidenGarai
07/18/21 3:56:26 PM
#121:


Ive read articles about how they hated him because hes black, but now they love him.

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ChainLTTP
07/18/21 4:16:18 PM
#122:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Explain?
It's a very common thing in Europe. The "blue collar" Europeans generally loathe refugees (particularly from Africa). Imagine the stereotypical racist in Texas who hates Mexicans, but actually real.

Anyway, the few guys I talked to in Greece (waiters and resort workers) really hate Giannis. They loved Kobe and Lebron though, so it's not a race thing per se. Definitely an immigration issue.
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guffguy89
07/18/21 8:32:52 PM
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I guess you would have to define what "a few years ago" is. I know I say several news reports with video on site of Greece fans gushing over Giannis when the team started playing extremely well back in 2019. Obviously not everyone is expected to have the same opinion on everything, but many seemed very proud of him.

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ChainLTTP
07/18/21 9:57:57 PM
#124:


I was there in 2019. They don't consider him Greek.
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guffguy89
07/19/21 12:52:13 AM
#125:


Ok, you need to stop speaking in absolutes like that, because that's how misinformation is spread. While I'm not doubting your experience with the waiter and resort workers or whoever, a simple Google search of credible news articles and dozens of reddit posts from Greek people and people who visited Greece paint a completely different picture from what you are saying.

The overwhelming consensus seems to be that the majority of Greeks support Giannis, and while there are no doubt people there who do not like him because he's an immigrant or whatever, to speak of it in such absolutes as you do is painting an incorrect picture of reality.

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ChainLTTP
07/19/21 8:23:58 AM
#126:


guffguy89 posted...
Ok, you need to stop speaking in absolutes like that, because that's how misinformation is spread. While I'm not doubting your experience with the waiter and resort workers or whoever, a simple Google search of credible news articles and dozens of reddit posts from Greek people and people who visited Greece paint a completely different picture from what you are saying.

The overwhelming consensus seems to be that the majority of Greeks support Giannis, and while there are no doubt people there who do not like him because he's an immigrant or whatever, to speak of it in such absolutes as you do is painting an incorrect picture of reality.
Lol it's not "misinformation" to write about my own experience. When I was in Athens, I spoke to 3 guys separately about basketball. All 3 had utter contempt for Giannis. Small sample size, but that seems like a not-insignificant feeling amongst a certain demographic (30s, male, no college education).
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Reg
07/19/21 8:35:39 AM
#127:


ChainLTTP posted...
Lol it's not "misinformation" to write about my own experience.
Anecdote != data, and speaking in absolute terms as if the two are equal is misinformation.
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ChainLTTP
07/19/21 8:42:11 AM
#128:


Reg posted...
Anecdote != data, and speaking in absolute terms as if the two are equal is misinformation.
Ok you're right, I should have spent my honeymoon conducting a data analysis of Giannis's approval rating before posting.

How about this: every Greek I've spoken to about basketball hates Giannis and I got xenophobic, anti-immigrant vibes from them when I brought him up.
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MZero
07/19/21 8:51:56 AM
#129:


ChainLTTP posted...
I went to Greece a few years ago and they absolutely HATE Giannis. Might be an immigrant thing.

ChainLTTP posted...
I spoke to 3 guys separately about basketball.

ChainLTTP posted...
3 guys

lmao what

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ChainLTTP
07/19/21 8:55:47 AM
#130:


I'm confused. You don't talk to people on vacation?
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MZero
07/19/21 9:06:33 AM
#131:


I don't make sweeping generalizations about the entire country after talking to 3 people

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ChainLTTP
07/19/21 9:31:31 AM
#132:


This board never ceases to astound me with how incapable you all are to understand sentences based on context.

Why even bother trying? Here we go:
100% of Greeks hate Giannis because he's an immigrant.
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guffguy89
07/19/21 9:50:07 AM
#133:


What most confuses me is why people who are employees in the tourism industry would badmouth Giannis to an American tourist like that. That just seems like bad business to say that even if you hold those beliefs. Unless you aren't American perhaps?

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Leonhart4
07/19/21 10:42:27 AM
#134:


ChainLTTP posted...
I'm confused. You don't talk to people on vacation?

Not if I can help it

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ChainLTTP
07/19/21 10:48:07 AM
#135:


guffguy89 posted...
What most confuses me is why people who are employees in the tourism industry would badmouth Giannis to an American tourist like that. That just seems like bad business to say that even if you hold those beliefs. Unless you aren't American perhaps?
It's why I came to the conclusion that I did. People don't really say negative things like that unless it's not a controversial opinion in their circles.
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ChainLTTP
07/19/21 12:16:31 PM
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Lmao good point
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MZero
07/19/21 12:27:14 PM
#138:


it takes a lot of social skills to talk to three waiters

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ninkendo
07/20/21 8:04:05 AM
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Sorozone
07/20/21 11:28:57 AM
#140:


Scott Foster and Tony brothers are refing tonight. Really bringing the "A" team here...Guessing the game will have a few controversial calls, with it ultimately goin to a game 7.

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RaidenGarai
07/20/21 11:53:50 AM
#141:


Is that the same crew that gave Booker 8 fouls, or are they in health and safety protocol?

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neonreaper
07/20/21 11:56:55 AM
#142:


I think Chris Paul has never won in the postseason with Scott Foster as ref?

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Sorozone
07/20/21 12:00:55 PM
#143:


RaidenGarai posted...
Is that the same crew that gave Booker 8 fouls, or are they in health and safety protocol?

I have no idea. Scott Foster hates CP3 though. 0-12 in games he has reffed in the playoffs, but that's also a bit misleading because Paul doesn't have the greatest playoff record and has chocked in big games. Foster also tends to ref big playoff games. Foster also just shouldn't be a ref either.

I haven't looked into Brothers too much, but from the little I have seen Bucks fans hate him too.

All in all, I think with little to no funny business, Bucks close it out tonight.

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RaidenGarai
07/20/21 12:36:58 PM
#144:


I hope they do. Giannis deserves to be the face of Wisconsin sports.

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Leonhart4
07/20/21 3:23:38 PM
#145:


RaidenGarai posted...
I hope they do. Giannis deserves to be the face of Wisconsin sports.

And now that Aaron Rodgers has reportedly turned down a massive extension offer, he soon will be!

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RaidenGarai
07/20/21 3:35:48 PM
#146:


I have yet to talk to someone that supports Rodgers over the Packers. I know that's not going to be true for all of Wisconsin, but I figured at least one person in my life would be siding with him over the team. He might be more hated than Favre was after all of this!

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Leonhart4
07/20/21 3:43:13 PM
#147:


Fans always support the team over the player that wants to leave the team unless it's an extreme circumstance

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LiquidOshawott
07/20/21 4:45:59 PM
#148:


Its weird because that Love move was terrible but the Packers probably have more talent around Rodgers than like, every team thats not the Bucs or Chiefs (and even those teams dont have a RB as good as Jones)

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Leonhart4
07/20/21 4:50:21 PM
#149:


Yeah, Rodgers' best bet to win a second title is to stay in Green Bay, but I think he's just tired of being there and wants out, period. I don't think it's about the money or winning for him at this point.

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colliding
07/20/21 4:55:55 PM
#150:


RaidenGarai posted...
I have yet to talk to someone that supports Rodgers over the Packers. I know that's not going to be true for all of Wisconsin, but I figured at least one person in my life would be siding with him over the team. He might be more hated than Favre was after all of this!

I wouldn't say I support Rodgers "over" the Packers, but, as a Packers fan, I don't hate him. Circumstances in the NFL and NBA have proven that, in this day and age, if you're a sports superstar you can go to a team and get whatever and whoever you want to win a championship. I also think there's probably stuff beyond what we've heard about the culture there. Basically, I think he just wants out, and he wants to go to a team that'll say "tell us what you want and we'll do it." He also is very obviously thinking about a Michael Strahan-esque career beyond football, and Green Bay isn't exactly the best place to play for that.

Does all of this kind of screw over the team this season? Yeah, so I get why people are mad. But I can't say I blame him.

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