Current Events > That Mandalorian finale though (spoilers)

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KobeSystem posted...

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we should all just pretend it doesnt exist tbh

I think there's plenty to appreciate in it

One of my favorite bits of this season pretty directly references it

It's just draining to have every conversation in the fandom turn to a negative thing like that

DarthAragorn posted...

Fair enough

But I would maintain that criticism of it is still mostly valid

I have my criticisms of it but like I said above there's a lot to appreciate IMO

A lot of criticisms are valid though I will agree

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DarthAragorn posted...

Probably because it fucking sucked balls, I imagine

And yet because of the nature of it everything is fucking linked to it still

Dont see the issue with it. People say that the prequels sucked balls too yet some of the best Star Wars content (the Clone Wars show) is directly tied to them. On top of that the people in charge of Mandalorian worship the canon that the prequels brought us as well as the OT (for obvious reasons). Disney is going to do what Star Wars has always done, write around the garbage story telling to make the questionable canon that those movies established make sense. Theyve been using videogames and comics to do it for a bit now, so the Mandalorian is doing the same thing. If you hate the sequels, theyre not going anywhere, but Disney will continue to do everything in their power to make them more tolerable through the exploring the post ROTJ time period. Ignore their existence as much as you can, Disney wont. Youre literally watching a show thats dedicated to improving the sequels by telling the story of the creation of the First Order, Snoke, and Palpatines clones, lmfao

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So does this mean Din Djarin's part of the show is mostly over? The post credits scene seemed to imply that next season is going to mostly be about Boba Fett. And I imagine if that's the case, after Boba Fett's part of the show is over the focus will shift to Bo-Katan and Mandalore.

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

So does this mean Din Djarin's part of the show is mostly over? The post credits scene seemed to imply that next season is going to mostly be about Boba Fett. And I imagine if that's the case, after Boba Fett's part of the show is over the focus will shift to Bo-Katan and Mandalore.

I think the Boba tease is for his own spinoff show, and Mando season 3 will be about resolving the new issue between Din and Bo Katan. Thats how I see it.


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2SweetforTurtle posted...

I think the Boba tease is for his own spinoff show, and Mando season 3 will be about resolving the new issue between Din and Bo Katan. Thats how I see it.

Yeah I wasn't quite sure about that. I don't recall if a Boba show was one of the ones announced last week. But Disney announced a million things last week, so couldn't really keep track of them all either.

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Yeah I wasn't quite sure about that. I don't recall if a Boba show was one of the ones announced last week. But Disney announced a million things last week, so couldn't really keep track of them all either.

They didnt announce it last week, but I think that mightve been to keep it a surprise.

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I am more interested in the Boba show than Mandalorian season 3. That final shot was everything.

The X Dawg posted...

I am more interested in the Boba show than Mandalorian season 3. That final shot was everything.

I mean I definitely want more Din and whatnot but if they wrapped everything there I wouldn't even be upset

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Yeah. Remember literally nobody knew about Grogu's existence until the pilot aired. It could easily be a spinoff that they chose to wait on announcing

DarthAragorn posted...

Remember literally nobody knew about Grogu's existence until the pilot aired.

I'm still utterly amazed they managed to keep that under wraps

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Random thought but has anyone ever actually asked Sebastian Stan if he would play Luke?

Like he's an extremely popular fancast but I don't think I've ever heard the guy address it or if he'd even want to do it lol

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Doom_Art posted...

I'm still utterly amazed they managed to keep that under wraps

That was seriously impressive as hell tbh

everything gets leaked these days

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I clearly don't get some of the appeal to the show because the Luke reveal seemed kinda lame to me.

Less so if it seemed like it was anything other than a one time cameo, but I'm not confident that they are actually going to integrate the storylines.

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ViewtifulGrave posted...

You dont see how Rey gaining Force abilities out of nowhere with zero explanation goes against established and current lore?

You keep moving goalposts. But no, it isn't "out of nowhere" since she's directly related to one of the most powerful force users around. There was a literal explanation given.

Doom_Art posted...

Random thought but has anyone ever actually asked Sebastian Stan if he would play Luke?

Like he's an extremely popular fancast but I don't think I've ever heard the guy address it or if he'd even want to do it lol

Idk if hes ever said anything about it but he obviously loves working with Disney and is into this kind of nerdy shit. Mark Hamill has acknowledged it and every year on Sebs birthday posts a happy birthday message to his long lost son lol.

COVxy posted...

I clearly don't get some of the appeal to the show because the Luke reveal seemed kinda lame to me.

Less so if it seemed like it was anything other than a one time cameo, but I'm not confident that they are actually going to integrate the storylines.

Its definitely a one time thing. If anything theyll revisit it if/when they ever have Din see Grogu again, and if not, theres a chance we may see it referenced again in any of the other series or movies that are planned that take place in this time period (Rangers of the New Republic, maybe Rogue Squadron, idk). Also the comic books explore a lot of these kinds of things that dont get explored in the movies / shows.


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Omgomgomg

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lolife67 posted...

You keep moving goalposts. But no, it isn't "out of nowhere" since she's directly related to one of the most powerful force users around. There was a literal explanation given.

There is an explanation. Shes a Palpatine and a part of a force dyad with Kylo. If one grows powerful, so does the other. Theyre meant to be balanced with one another. Then theres her sensing of history of things. Its almost like a sign of psychometry, she can feel things and learn from it, something that happens in Ep 7 when she takes Anakins blade.

The question of whether or not there is an explanation is answered. Now whether you think its a good explanation is another question. I think its lazy writing and couldve been explained a little better so that we dont have to retread these insanely stupid and repetitive conversations.

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COVxy posted...

I clearly don't get some of the appeal to the show because the Luke reveal seemed kinda lame to me.

Less so if it seemed like it was anything other than a one time cameo, but I'm not confident that they are actually going to integrate the storylines.

Star Wars fans want pandering, not quality. He stood there like a fucking puppet.

Disney needs to start recasting these characters if they actually want to use them in stories. Solo, for all it's faults, got that much right.

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RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Yeah Filoni should be the Feige to this shit

Jon Favreau is in charge of this show, and the latest episode was written by Favreau and directed by Peyton Reed.

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2SweetforTurtle posted...

Theres literally another 10 or so years before Ben Solo turns on Luke. Plenty of time for Din to visit Grogu multiple times.

They literally already showed us. They directly show a Snoke in a vat, mention needing a donor for midichlorians, and Moff says he got what he needed (Grogus blood). Theyre using his blood to clone Palpatine.

I must have missed that. I gotta go back and rewatch

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Star Wars fans want pandering, not quality. He stood there like a fucking puppet.

Disney needs to start recasting these characters if they actually want to use them in stories. Solo, for all it's faults, got that much right.

I mean I don't see how him showing up is pandering

Also I don't fault them for not recasting since if the intent was only to have him in briefly then you probably don't want to commit to an actor and start signing contracts and shit

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I mean, almost immediately after it happened, I realized how much sense it made.

Luke is probably looking to build his New Jedi Order. And what other Jedi is going to answer Grogu's call? Ahsoka was the one that sent him there. Nobody knows where Ezra is. We don't know about Cal or Cere but that's a story that still needs to be told.

It's fanservice, but it's fanservice that totally fits the context of the story.

And I mean they could have recast...but as stated above, that would mean committing to an actor for Young Luke.

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2SweetforTurtle posted...

There is an explanation. Shes a Palpatine and a part of a force dyad with Kylo. If one grows powerful, so does the other. Theyre meant to be balanced with one another. Then theres her sensing of history of things. Its almost like a sign of psychometry, she can feel things and learn from it, something that happens in Ep 7 when she takes Anakins blade.

The question of whether or not there is an explanation is answered. Now whether you think its a good explanation is another question. I think its lazy writing and couldve been explained a little better so that we dont have to retread these insanely stupid and repetitive conversations.

And you thinking that their reasoning sucks or is lazy is fair. Saying there was zero explanation is not.

I also think the execution was badly done, as am fyi.

lolife67 posted...

And you thinking that their reasoning sucks or is lazy is fair. Saying there was zero explanation is not.

I also think the execution was badly done, as am fyi.

I was agreeing with you. The argument that Rey is too OP with little training is tired. There is an explanation, but some people would rather act like there isnt just because they either dont like it or dont pay attention.

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2SweetforTurtle posted...

I was agreeing with you.

Oh, I know. I was agreeing with your agreement lol

Just finished it holy FUCK what an episode and fantastic season.

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I wish it wasn't Luke - part of the appeal of the show was that it wasn't a Skywalker story - and godamn that de-aging is fucking horrible, but it does make sense. I assume future seasons will show Grogu leaving his training before getting burned up, but maybe not.

Overall, I give it a holy fuck/10.

Just realized Boba might have been mad af if he saw Luke lol.

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Can't wait for the Han Solo, Chewy, maybe Princess Lea and Vader cameos, feed us memberberries and we'll feast on them, at least they won't have too much trouble de-aging Chewy and armor Vader.

bknight posted...

Can't wait for the Han Solo, Chewy, maybe Princess Lea and Vader cameos, feed us memberberries and we'll feast on them, at least they won't have too much trouble de-aging Chewy and armor Vader.

hoes mad

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Doom_Art posted...

No Star Wars conversation nowadays is ever complete without pointless complaining about the Sequel Trilogy

I wasnt complaining. Just pointed out that The Mandalorian twice brought up something that the sequels omitted.

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Should just officially cast Sebastian Stan, people will get over it.

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lolife67 posted...

You keep moving goalposts. But no, it isn't "out of nowhere" since she's directly related to one of the most powerful force users around. There was a literal explanation given.

Thats not how the Force works. That doesnt make sense since we know that Palpatine trained under Plagueis. Being Force sensitive doesnt automatically grant access to all Force abilities.

Anakin is literally the chosen one and has the highest Force potential, yet he still needed to be trained. Luke inherited his fathers potential and he had to be trained. Ezra had to be trained. Ahsoka straight up said that Grogu was trained.

Rey does pull Force abilities out of nowhere. In TFA she does the Jedi Mind Trick casually multiple times and Force Pulls Anakins lightsaber away from Kylo with no prior knowledge of their existence. Lets not forget Force Healing and Force Lightning.

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ViewtifulGrave posted...

Thats not how the Force works. That doesnt make sense since we know that Palpatine trained under Plagueis. Being Force sensitive doesnt automatically grant access to all Force abilities.

Anakin is literally the chosen one and has the highest Force potential, yet he still needed to be trained. Luke inherited his fathers potential and he had to be trained. Ezra had to be trained. Ahsoka straight up said that Grogu was trained.

Rey does pull Force abilities out of nowhere. In TFA she does the Jedi Mind Trick casually multiple times and Force Pulls Anakins lightsaber away from Kylo with no prior knowledge of their existence. Lets not forget Force Healing and Force Lightning.

But she acknowledges the existence of Luke Skywalker with excitement, basically hailing him as a well known Jedi in that respect. With heroes come stories, and with stories come experiences. Even if hailed as "legend" people spoke of his mind tricks, and various other things he did. It's not entirely out of left field that when she learned his existence was real, that the stories of him and what he did weren't untold. Her hearing about his exploits, his abilities and capabilities isn't unheard of at all. Someone like Luke who met so many people along the way and was directly involved with the destruction of two death stars and the destruction of the sith are going to have a lot of tales attached and a lot of witnesses to his capabilities as a Jedi knight.

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Hearing stories about someone doesnt explain how Rey can use Force abilities when its suddenly convenient for her.

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Did Bo Katan survive?
it looked like she got shot up pretty bad

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ROBANN_88 posted...

Did Bo Katan survive?
it looked like she got shot up pretty bad

she's fine

I always considered when she touched the lightsaber and had a full-on rush of visions while doing so a sudden connection and mild understanding of the force in that moment. Maybe it's left to interpretation, or I don't take sci-fi that entirely seriously but that's what I took away from it and that moment in the film. Her reaction during that scene seemed like it was an overwhelming rush of information that scared her away initially, before dwelling on what it meant.

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How?
She was hit several times?
She doesn't have Beskar to block it

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ROBANN_88 posted...

How?
She was hit several times?
She doesn't have Beskar to block it

Honestly the build up of her having to fight for the darksaber going into next season was too big for her to just be flat out dead now. With baby Yoda being in Luke's hands, the plot is gonna need to go a different direction, and I think the darksaber is going to be a primary focus.

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ROBANN_88 posted...

How?
She was hit several times?
She doesn't have Beskar to block it

What? Yes she does. It's not shiny silver but it's Beskar

I thought it was Coska or whatever Bo's right hand woman is that got shot by Gideon.

They definitely left a cliffhanger in regards to Din and Bo with the darksaber.

We saw Din ease up on Mandalorian tradition and is more at ease at taking his helmet off in front of others. Meanwhile Bo won't accept the darksaber from Din even though he tried to give it to her on a technicality. We know Din never wanted the thing.

Does the darksaber choose it's wielder? (Winner of a battle for it) or is it a Mandalorian tradition thing that's nonsense in retrospect?

DarthAragorn posted...

What? Yes she does. It's not shiny silver but it's Beskar

Oh, really?

I must have missed that completely, then
Is that ever mentioned in the show?


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Can't imagine they just namedrop Thrawn for no reason. I would think that he would be important in the next season.

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...

Can't imagine they just namedrop Thrawn for no reason. I would think that he would be important in the next season.

I think he'll be the big bad of the Disney+ Star Wars universe.

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I wonder where they will go with Din now, without Grogu and the father/son bond hes just a boring mandalorian.

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ViewtifulGrave posted...

Thats not how the Force works. That doesnt make sense since we know that Palpatine trained under Plagueis. Being Force sensitive doesnt automatically grant access to all Force abilities.

Anakin is literally the chosen one and has the highest Force potential, yet he still needed to be trained. Luke inherited his fathers potential and he had to be trained. Ezra had to be trained. Ahsoka straight up said that Grogu was trained.

Rey does pull Force abilities out of nowhere. In TFA she does the Jedi Mind Trick casually multiple times and Force Pulls Anakins lightsaber away from Kylo with no prior knowledge of their existence. Lets not forget Force Healing and Force Lightning.

Bruh, can you even see the original goal post anymore?

Pitbuller_26 posted...

Does the darksaber choose it's wielder? (Winner of a battle for it) or is it a Mandalorian tradition thing that's nonsense in retrospect?

The latter. I believe it intentionally parallels how Bo spoke of the "zealots" for the helmet thing. Kind of a "now who's being unreasonable" moment, especially when Din takes off the helmet later in the episode.

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ROBANN_88 posted...

Oh, really?

I must have missed that completely, then
Is that ever mentioned in the show?

They're Mandalorians in Mandalorian armor. Most Mandalorian armor is painted (or maybe it's given color some other way, but I believe it's painted), usually to reflect what clan they belong to.

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lolife67 posted...

Bruh, can you even see the original goal post anymore?

Yep I can. Ahsoka and Luke both said training is necessary to utilize the Force. Rey gets Force abilities with zero training. I never moved the goalpost you seem to be intentionally failing to understand my point.

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