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lolife67
12/19/20 10:52:40 AM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Yep I can. Ahsoka and Luke both said training is necessary to utilize the Force. Rey gets Force abilities with zero training. I never moved the goalpost you seem to be intentionally failing to understand my point.
That's not what they said. They said it means nothing, as in one can't reach their full potential. Not that they can't use the Force at all. People have been shown to use the Force intuitively all the time. That's the part you seem to be missing.
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matteus70
12/19/20 11:10:45 AM
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I swear to God that I heard Fortuna say 'macklunky' at the end.

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CyricZ
12/19/20 11:12:07 AM
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matteus70 posted...
'macklunky'
OKAY I'm glad I'm not the only one.

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Returning_CEmen
12/19/20 11:50:41 AM
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AP3Brain posted...
People are complaining about the de-aging? I thought Luke looked great personally. There wasn't much "uncanny valley" that I could notice.

The episode was fantastic and the series as a whole is one of the best things to happen to the franchise in a long time.

I do wonder why they made sure to keep Moff Gideon alive though. I love his character but what can they even use him for? Didn't they just want the darksaber? I guess the writers just really want to use his character again later.
They did say they wanted to keep him alive for information
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2SweetforTurtle
12/19/20 11:53:51 AM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Oh, really?

I must have missed that completely, then
Is that ever mentioned in the show?

I dont think they ever explicitly say it, but given that shes royalty and her armor has been in her family for generations, it seems far more likely that she is already in possession and didnt have to earn it like Mando in S1.

ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
Can't imagine they just namedrop Thrawn for no reason. I would think that he would be important in the next season.

The Ahsoka show. Shes likely looking for him and Ezra in it. I dont think Ahsoka is showing up again in the Mandalorian.

ViewtifulGrave posted...
Yep I can. Ahsoka and Luke both said training is necessary to utilize the Force. Rey gets Force abilities with zero training. I never moved the goalpost you seem to be intentionally failing to understand my point.

Did you even watch the movies? Or are you just regurgitating what you read on the internet?

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2SweetforTurtle
12/19/20 11:57:00 AM
#156:


Returning_CEmen posted...
They did say they wanted to keep him alive for information


Yep that. Hes former ISB so he has knowledge of the Empires contingencies post-Palpatine. It was The New Republic Marshall who wanted him alive, so it makes sense that Imperial secrets are high on their priorities.

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CM_Ponch
12/19/20 1:03:55 PM
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ReignFury posted...
I wonder where they will go with Din now, without Grogu and the father/son bond hes just a boring mandalorian.
To retake Mandalore while trying to work with/survive Bo Katan

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ROBANN_88
12/19/20 1:21:29 PM
#158:


2SweetforTurtle posted...
but given that shes royalty and her armor has been in her family for generations

oh yeah, now that you mention that does make sense

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ViewtifulGrave
12/19/20 2:29:58 PM
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2SweetforTurtle posted...
Did you even watch the movies? Or are you just regurgitating what you read on the internet?
Present an argument.

lolife67 posted...
Not that they can't use the Force at all. People have been shown to use the Force intuitively all the time. That's the part you seem to be missing.
Of course I never said otherwise, but Rey gains specific abilities in situations that are most convenient for her.

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SamuelLJackdson
12/19/20 2:36:01 PM
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I liked the CGI effects, but couldnt they have found an actor that looked similar to a young Luke like Rogue One did with Leia? Especially if hes going to reappear in season 3?
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BlakPeppa
12/19/20 2:43:24 PM
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Did anyone in here mention
that Bo had no problem being handed the darksaber in Rebels from another Mandalorian who legit won in it in a Mando vs Mando duel?

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CommonStar
12/19/20 2:43:37 PM
#162:


SamuelLJackdson posted...
I liked the CGI effects, but couldnt they have found an actor that looked similar to a young Luke like Rogue One did with Leia? Especially if hes going to reappear in season 3?
Sebastian Stan looks exactly like young luke.
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MrToothHasYou
12/19/20 2:45:23 PM
#163:


BlakPeppa posted...
Did anyone in here mention
that Bo had no problem being handed the darksaber in Rebels from another Mandalorian who legit won in it in a Mando vs Mando duel?
Perhaps thats part of the reason she lost in in the first place - she took it when she didnt deserve it and now she needs to obtain it the right way

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Jabodie
12/19/20 2:45:45 PM
#164:


BlakPeppa posted...
Did anyone in here mention
that Bo had no problem being handed the darksaber in Rebels from another Mandalorian who legit won in it in a Mando vs Mando duel?
I've been wondering about that too lol. But maybe it didn't work out for her because of that reason.

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stoltenberg11
12/19/20 3:03:52 PM
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I always chuckle any time someone tries to act like the reasoning for Rey's force powers and proficiency was anything other than bad

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Smashingpmkns
12/19/20 3:33:05 PM
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Episode was great. Also the Boba show isn't s3. It's a spin off. So there are now 3 spin off series to the Mandalorian that will be out next year. Boba Fett show has been filming before the other two, and is supposedly only planned for one season.
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CyricZ
12/19/20 3:37:11 PM
#167:


MrToothHasYou posted...
Perhaps thats part of the reason she lost in in the first place - she took it when she didnt deserve it and now she needs to obtain it the right way
I admit my mind was going the same direction, and this is the only explanation that makes sense.

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2SweetforTurtle
12/19/20 3:51:52 PM
#168:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Present an argument.

Already did but you conveniently ignored it.


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dameon_reaper
12/19/20 4:01:51 PM
#169:


Future_Trunks posted...
hammils voice is all old. Do they credit hammil in the episode?

Hammil is a voice actor. You don't think he can't mimic is youthful voice? lol
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CM_Ponch
12/19/20 4:23:12 PM
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littlebro07
12/19/20 4:37:13 PM
#171:


CM_Ponch posted...
https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/1340396608454676480?s=19

How the hell did they do this AND keep Baby Yoda a secret until the first episode aired

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Smashingpmkns
12/19/20 4:39:14 PM
#172:


littlebro07 posted...
How the hell did they do this AND keep Baby Yoda a secret until the first episode aired

Small crews working on the show and they probably sign crazy contracts. Any leak would probably be easily traced back and blacklist them lol
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matteus70
12/19/20 4:57:10 PM
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Grogu's name was leaked a few days before the Ahsoka episode but somehow they kept this in wraps.

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ViewtifulGrave
12/19/20 6:11:59 PM
#174:


2SweetforTurtle posted...
Already did but you conveniently ignored it.
All you did was make a baseless accusation.

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GeneralKenobi85
12/19/20 6:15:37 PM
#175:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Episode was great. Also the Boba show isn't s3. It's a spin off. So there are now 3 spin off series to the Mandalorian that will be out next year. Boba Fett show has been filming before the other two, and is supposedly only planned for one season.
I wonder what the Boba show will be about. Bounty hunting seems like an obvious answer. And it's interesting how that was what we expected The Mandalorian to be about. And it was at first.

I'm expecting at least Bossk to show up. But what would really get me interested is the live action debut of Cad Bane.

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Crescente
12/19/20 6:16:00 PM
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With the way they handled luke in this...they should just retcon the sequel trilogy. THIS is the real Luke. Not that...whatever that was in TLJ.
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IShall_Run_Amok
12/19/20 6:47:14 PM
#177:


Crescente posted...
With the way they handled luke in this...they should just retcon the sequel trilogy. THIS is the real Luke. Not that...whatever that was in TLJ.
The Luke in this episode was basically a non-character. He just showed up, did some badass things, and impressed the other characters with his aura, before leaving. He was basically Jesus from Ben Hur, if Jesus had a cool sword. The Luke in T:LJ was an actual character. Fuck "the real Luke", that is better.

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CyricZ
12/19/20 6:53:03 PM
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The real Luke is a green laser sword that destroys all the bad robots.

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SSJ2GrimReaper
12/19/20 6:56:33 PM
#179:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
The Luke in this episode was basically a non-character. He just showed up, did some badass things, and impressed the other characters with his aura, before leaving. He was basically Jesus from Ben Hur, if Jesus had a cool sword. The Luke in T:LJ was an actual character. Fuck "the real Luke", that is better.
Subverting expectations


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2SweetforTurtle
12/19/20 6:57:57 PM
#180:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
All you did was make a baseless accusation.

The fuck are you going on about? I literally answered your question about why Rey was powerful.

Ill cote it for you. Not a single baseless accusation in this post.

2SweetforTurtle posted...
There is an explanation. Shes a Palpatine and a part of a force dyad with Kylo. If one grows powerful, so does the other. Theyre meant to be balanced with one another. Then theres her sensing of history of things. Its almost like a sign of psychometry, she can feel things and learn from it, something that happens in Ep 7 when she takes Anakins blade.

The question of whether or not there is an explanation is answered. Now whether you think its a good explanation is another question. I think its lazy writing and couldve been explained a little better so that we dont have to retread these insanely stupid and repetitive conversations.


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Crescente
12/19/20 7:01:22 PM
#181:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
The Luke in this episode was basically a non-character. He just showed up, did some badass things, and impressed the other characters with his aura, before leaving. He was basically Jesus from Ben Hur, if Jesus had a cool sword. The Luke in T:LJ was an actual character. Fuck "the real Luke", that is better.

TLJ ain't my Luke. I bet you they will retcon it and it will be glorious.
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Bad_Mojo
12/19/20 7:02:24 PM
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Who do you want to play Grand Admiral Thrawn next season?

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ThunderTrain
12/19/20 7:02:58 PM
#183:


Crescente posted...
TLJ ain't my Luke. I bet you they will retcon it and it will be glorious.

I mean they already did retcon it in ROS. What they should do is add more context to Luke's failure instead of just flashbacks from a bunch of different perspectives.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/19/20 7:12:25 PM
#184:


Crescente posted...
TLJ ain't my Luke.
Good, your Luke sucks and is boring.

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Blightzkrieg
12/19/20 7:18:05 PM
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TLJ Luke is exactly what Han says Luke is in TFA. It's only a subversion because people expected there to be some kind of twist, which likely wouldn't have made any sense.

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Crescente
12/19/20 7:22:03 PM
#186:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Good, your Luke sucks and is boring.

Your Luke is dead
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CyricZ
12/19/20 7:22:30 PM
#187:


Crescente posted...
TLJ ain't my Luke. I bet you they will retcon it and it will be glorious.
How... would they do that? Just say the ST doesn't exist?

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Smashingpmkns
12/19/20 7:25:44 PM
#188:


GeneralKenobi85 posted...
I wonder what the Boba show will be about. Bounty hunting seems like an obvious answer. And it's interesting how that was what we expected The Mandalorian to be about. And it was at first.

I'm expecting at least Bossk to show up. But what would really get me interested is the live action debut of Cad Bane.

Yeah the Boba Fett show will be interesting. I think it's safe to say that these spin offs will be integral to the larger story in the Mandalorian. And I think Baby Yoda will be at center of the franchise overall moving forward. They really hit gold here and have created an opportunity to expand the universe more in one show than they did with the sequels.
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ViewtifulGrave
12/19/20 7:26:02 PM
#189:


2SweetforTurtle posted...
The f*** are you going on about? I literally answered your question about why Rey was powerful.
My bad I missed that post.

The dyad is just bad writing. In TLJ Snoke says the he was the one that set up their connection, but in TRoS Palpatine acts as if the dyad is a natural occurrence. Again having a powerful relative doesnt grant one intimate knowledge on the Force..

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/19/20 7:27:07 PM
#190:


Blightzkrieg posted...
TLJ Luke is exactly what Han says Luke is in TFA. It's only a subversion because people expected there to be some kind of twist, which likely wouldn't have made any sense.
Rian Johnson subverted expectations by relying on Star Wars not paying attention to the movie. Dastardly!

Crescente posted...
Your Luke is dead
And is still a better character than yours, lol, get wrecked.

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MrToothHasYou
12/19/20 7:39:31 PM
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Anyone hoping they are gonna retcon the sequels is out of their mind. If they were gonna retcon shit they would have started with the prequels lmao.

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2SweetforTurtle
12/19/20 7:52:49 PM
#193:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
My bad I missed that post.

The dyad is just bad writing. In TLJ Snoke says the he was the one that set up their connection, but in TRoS Palpatine acts as if the dyad is a natural occurrence. Again having a powerful relative doesnt grant one intimate knowledge on the Force..

Yeah, I agree that its bad writing and certainly flies in the face of the lessons that they tried to teach in the OT, hence why Luke says what he says in Mando. I just think that the argument that it has no explanation is annoying. It does, its just a horrible explanation lmao

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Accolon
12/19/20 7:54:29 PM
#194:


CyricZ posted...
How... would they do that? Just say the ST doesn't exist?

Ezra does some nonsense in the World between Worlds and changes the future.

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BeyondWalls
12/19/20 7:59:24 PM
#195:


Accolon posted...
Ezra does some nonsense in the World between Worlds and changes the future.
They don't have the balls to have a live action Ezra go back to one of those time traveling stargates and change the future. That would be some shit if he did though.

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Bad_Mojo
12/19/20 7:59:45 PM
#196:


Bad_Mojo posted...
Who do you want to play Grand Admiral Thrawn next season?


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nexigrams
12/19/20 8:00:45 PM
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I've never been super into Star Wars. The movies were great as a modern day retelling of greek mythology, but they were all pretty surface level, no deep character development or storytelling going on. Good popcorn movies.

Mandalorian has been awesome so far, though. Great writing, characters. Sweet western, bounty hunter type feel to it. Anyways, I had no idea what was going on at the end, except that I thought that Jedi was a fucking badass. Then he spoke and I recognized his voice, and I thought maybe it was like a clone of Luke or something, or like a love child lol?

Anyways after I came here and read this stuff I thought it was pretty fucking hype. Actually the more I read made me realize that maybe the non-movie stuff actually did have some depth to it, and it made me want to check out where all these characters I've seen this season come from. Probably gonna check out Clone Wars now!

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DarthAragorn
12/19/20 8:00:59 PM
#198:


BeyondWalls posted...
They don't have the balls to have a live action Ezra go back to one of those time traveling stargates and change the future. That would be some shit if he did though.
Some good shit
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Smashingpmkns
12/19/20 8:01:08 PM
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Michael Fassbender as Thrawn.
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littlebro07
12/19/20 8:01:29 PM
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