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HaRRicH 12/10/20 10:08:49 PM #1: |
<b>PLAYABLE (62):</b>
Banjo Bayonetta Bowser Captain Falcon Captain Olimar Charizard Chrom Cloud Diddy Kong Donkey Kong Duck Hunt Dog Falco Lombardi Fox McCloud Ganondorf Ike Isabelle Jigglypuff Joker Ken King Dedede King K. Rool Kirby Link Little Mac Lucario Lucina Lucas Luigi Mario Marth Mega Man Meta Knight Mewtwo Mr. Game & Watch Nana Ness Pac-Man Palutena Pikachu Pit Pokemon Trainer Red Princess Daisy Princess Peach Richter Belmont Ridley Rosalina Ryu Samus Aran Sephiroth Shulk Simon Belmont Solid Snake Sonic Squirtle Steve Terry Bogard Toon Link Wario Wolf O'Donnell Yoshi Young Link Zelda <b>MII FIGHTER-COSTUMES (12):</b> Akira Yuki Black Knight Dunban Geno Heihachi (GameFAQs vote-in) Knuckles Lloyd Irving Mega Man X Proto Man Tails Toad Zero <b>SPIRITS (25):</b> Akuma Amy Rose Big Boss Black Shadow Chun-Li Dan Hibiki Fawful Felix Groose Liquid Snake M. Bison Metal Man Metal Sonic Mr. Resetti Otacon Raiden Rayman Revolver Ocelot Roll Sagat Shantae Sigma Soma Cruz Tharja The Boss <b>ASSIST TROPHIES/POKEBALLS/ITEMS (16):</b> Alucard Andross Blinky Bomberman Dr. Wily Guile Isaac Lugia Lyndis Midna Mother Brain Paddle Sandbag Shadow the Hedgehog Shovel Knight Waluigi <b>STAGE/CHARACTER/MODE-SPECIFIC CHARACTERS (8):</b> ? Block Captain Toad Creeper Doc Louis (GameFAQs vote-in) Dracula Master Hand Prince of All Cosmos Tingle <b>TROPHIES AND STICKERS (9):</b> Agent J Commander Video Crazy Redd Dr. Robotnik Epona Hades Mudkip Reyn Tom Nook <b>REFERENCED BY TEXT (1):</b> Giygas <b>GRAND TOTAL: 133</b> --- azuarc fgs rgth wertu,hgjg dgasg jhlhzsvc vnhmjvv! (Our champion razzle dazzle'd 141 Gurus like it was nothing, good job!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HaRRicH 12/10/20 10:09:14 PM #2: |
The list...it groooooooooows.....
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andylt 12/10/20 10:13:14 PM #3: |
So who are the strong characters still not to be in Smash in any form?
Crono, Tifa (though she's probably getting a spirit), Auron, Dante, Squall, Vivi, I guess most FF characters >_> --- Slowly becoming a Final Fantasy aficionado. Next up: FFVI Congrats to azuarc, Guru Champion 2020! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HaRRicH 12/10/20 10:31:15 PM #4: |
andylt posted...
So who are the strong characters still not to be in Smash in any form? Then to add to that, we may see an elevation of more FF7 characters like Aeris into that tier. --- azuarc fgs rgth wertu,hgjg dgasg jhlhzsvc vnhmjvv! (Our champion razzle dazzle'd 141 Gurus like it was nothing, good job!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PostContestUlti 12/10/20 10:36:23 PM #5: |
You missed L-Block as a spirit; not your fault though, since it was a limited special event and the spirit is called "L-Tetrimino & J-Tetrimino".
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/switch/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/faqs/77085 This is a good guide to use, and the author is on the ball about updating it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HaRRicH 12/10/20 11:27:30 PM #6: |
Cool, thank you -- that page leads me to more spirits, plus I double-checked for the latest Mii Fighter costumes.
Fifteen more, coming up! Altair Chris Redfield Cuphead Geese Howard (GameFAQs vote-in) Gruntilda Jill Valentine L-Tetrimino Leon Kennedy Primrose Reyn Sans Slime Travis Touchdown Vault Boy Wesker GRAND TOTAL: 148 --- azuarc fgs rgth wertu,hgjg dgasg jhlhzsvc vnhmjvv! (Our champion razzle dazzle'd 141 Gurus like it was nothing, good job!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 12/10/20 11:37:52 PM #7: |
i was just curious so I made a list of all the playable fighters who have NOT appeared in a contest:
Dark Samus Popo Pichu Roy Dark Pit Ivysaur Alph R.O.B. Villager Wii Fit Trainer Luma Greninja Mii Fighters Robin Bowser Jr. Any of the Koopalings Duck Hunt Duck Corrin Inkling Incineroar Piranha Plant Any of the represented DQ Heroes Kazooie Byleth Min Min Any of the non-Steve Minecraft characters Did I miss anyone? (I did not count Dr. Mario or Zero Suit Samus because I'm 100% certain they would be considered separate from Mario or Samus, but I left the rest of the questionably-eligible ones in) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PostContestUlti 12/10/20 11:46:16 PM #8: |
Paratroopa1 posted...
Did I miss anyone? (I did not count Dr. Mario or Zero Suit Samus because I'm 100% certain they would be considered separate from Mario or Samus, but I left the rest of the questionably-eligible ones in)By this logic you should leave Dark Samus off. Same reason Dark Link won't ever get in. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hbthebattle 12/11/20 12:41:03 AM #9: |
Dark Samus is actually a different character though and would probably be able to get in under the name Metroid Prime
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Team Rocket Elite 12/11/20 12:53:10 AM #10: |
Dark Link is a different character than Link.
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MZero 12/11/20 1:43:08 AM #11: |
HaRRicH posted...
Prince of All Cosmos wait what --- MZero, to the extreme I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 12/11/20 1:45:31 AM #12: |
Dark Samus is a major character and dark link is not
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Paratroopa1 12/11/20 1:48:37 AM #13: |
Like I said, I left the questionably-eligible ones in, lol
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-hotdogturtle-- 12/11/20 1:54:11 AM #14: |
MZero posted...
wait whatHe was in 2007. --- Hey man, LlamaGuy did encrypt the passwords. With what? ROT-13? -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 12/11/20 1:55:44 AM #15: |
Where in Smash is the Prince of all Cosmos?
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Nameless2000 12/11/20 1:59:53 AM #16: |
Paratroopa1 posted...
Where in Smash is the Prince of all Cosmos?The Pac-Man taunt where he holds out a character --- n2k ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 12/11/20 2:24:01 AM #17: |
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Xuxon 12/11/20 3:07:59 AM #18: |
i'm surprised Greninja never made it into a contest
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Mewtwo59 12/11/20 3:55:19 AM #19: |
How many contests have we had since X and Y?
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MZero 12/11/20 4:19:53 AM #20: |
-hotdogturtle-- posted...
He was in 2007. I know that >_> Nameless2000 posted... The Pac-Man taunt where he holds out a character I guess that makes sense, I never use Pac-Man --- MZero, to the extreme I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raka_Putra 12/11/20 5:58:09 AM #21: |
Man, I would totally vote for Wii Fit Trainer.
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HaRRicH 12/11/20 11:54:15 AM #22: |
Paratroopa1 posted...
Did I miss anyone? https://tenor.com/view/the-legend-of-zelda-smash-bros-super-smash-bros-nintendo-sheik-gif-18091887 Don't forget to nominate Sheik ya'll. #DownB is still on. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/0d/Sheik-Victory3-SSB4.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HaRRicH 12/11/20 12:00:30 PM #23: |
Xuxon posted...
i'm surprised Greninja never made it into a contestMewtwo59 posted... How many contests have we had since X and Y? Games 2015 Years 2017 Characters 2018 GotD 2020 --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/0d/Sheik-Victory3-SSB4.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 12/11/20 12:04:40 PM #24: |
Nah if I'm going to waste a nom I'd rather it be on something worthwhile like Sonic 3 & Knuckles or Mario vs. Sonic
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charmander6000 12/11/20 12:08:37 PM #25: |
I'm tempted to create a "GameFAQs" tournament. Just need four more playable characters (since Red/Charizard/Squirtle would be one entry). Or I can just buy some Mii costumes...
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HaRRicH 12/11/20 12:10:31 PM #26: |
For what it's worth, Mario VS Sonic should have won that whole contest.
S&K > S3&K, but S3&K was robbed too. Nothing wasted about a nom for Sheik! --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/0d/Sheik-Victory3-SSB4.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HaRRicH 12/11/20 12:11:49 PM #27: |
Forceful_Dragon posted...
Harrich, as usual you are doing God's work. You're too kind. Also, don't tell God. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/0d/Sheik-Victory3-SSB4.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 12/11/20 12:12:52 PM #28: |
I don't understand arguing S&K is better than S3&K unless you think Sonic 3 is actively detrimental to the experience
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HaRRicH 12/11/20 12:27:09 PM #29: |
I think S&K's levels are better than Sonic 3's. Also, just thinking of S&K automatically invokes Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 for me whereas S3&K excludes Sonic 2 a bit in my mind.
Dr. Mario and Toon Link don't have a chance of out-nominating Mario or Link. It's a longshot, but Sheik could out-nominate Zelda (and Sheik deserves to be in with or without Zelda). --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/0d/Sheik-Victory3-SSB4.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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charmander6000 12/11/20 12:27:14 PM #30: |
Goemon, Iori Yagami and Yu Narukami are Mii fighters
I'm not sure which priority you have, but Bomberman, Creeper and Isaac are Mii costumes too, but are listed elsewhere. --- Congratulations to azuarc for winning the guru challenge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 12/11/20 12:30:32 PM #31: |
I don't know how Sonic 3 doesn't make you think of Sonic 2 because it's the next number
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HaRRicH 12/11/20 1:05:57 PM #32: |
Nice catches, char!
It's hard to prioritize these, but I started with playable characters followed by Mii Fighter costumes since they were the next most playable. From there, it was a bit of a crapshoot besides Giygas at the very bottom. I've updated this a bit. <b>PLAYABLE (62):</b> Banjo Bayonetta Bowser Captain Falcon Captain Olimar Charizard Chrom Cloud Diddy Kong Donkey Kong Duck Hunt Dog Falco Lombardi Fox McCloud Ganondorf Ike Isabelle Jigglypuff Joker Ken King Dedede King K. Rool Kirby Link Little Mac Lucario Lucina Lucas Luigi Mario Marth Mega Man Meta Knight Mewtwo Mr. Game & Watch Nana Ness Pac-Man Palutena Pikachu Pit Pokemon Trainer Red Princess Daisy Princess Peach Richter Belmont Ridley Rosalina Ryu Samus Aran Sephiroth Shulk Simon Belmont Solid Snake Sonic Squirtle Steve Terry Bogard Toon Link Wario Wolf O'Donnell Yoshi Young Link Zelda <b>MII FIGHTER-COSTUMES (24):</b> Akira Yuki Altair Black Knight Bomberman Creeper Cuphead Dunban Geno Goemon Heihachi (GameFAQs vote-in) Iori Yagami Isaac Knuckles Lloyd Irving Mega Man X Proto Man Sans Slime Tails Travis Touchdown Toad Vault Boy Yu Narukami Zero <b>SPIRITS (34):</b> Akuma Amy Rose Big Boss Black Shadow Chun-Li Chris Redfield Dan Hibiki Fawful Felix Geese Howard (GameFAQs vote-in) Groose Gruntilda Jill Valentine L-Tetrimino Leon Kennedy Liquid Snake M. Bison Metal Man Metal Sonic Mr. Resetti Otacon Primrose Raiden Rayman Revolver Ocelot Reyn Roll Sagat Shantae Sigma Soma Cruz Tharja The Boss Wesker <b>ASSIST TROPHIES/POKEBALLS/ITEMS (14):</b> Alucard Andross Blinky Dr. Wily Guile Lugia Lyndis Midna Mother Brain Paddle Sandbag Shadow the Hedgehog Shovel Knight Waluigi <b>STAGE/CHARACTER/MODE-SPECIFIC CHARACTERS (7):</b> ? Block Captain Toad Doc Louis (GameFAQs vote-in) Dracula Master Hand Prince of All Cosmos Tingle <b>TROPHIES AND STICKERS (9):</b> Agent J Commander Video Crazy Redd Dr. Robotnik Epona Hades Mudkip Reyn Tom Nook <b>REFERENCED BY TEXT (1):</b> Giygas <b>GRAND TOTAL: 151</b> --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/0d/Sheik-Victory3-SSB4.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 12/12/20 2:52:23 AM #33: |
HaRRicH posted...
You're too kind. Also, don't tell God. True. He is a jealous God. He might not like it if you are doing his work for him. I think it's a Union thing. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 12/13/20 12:19:59 PM #34: |
If the lists are a hierarchy of some sort, Tom Nook should be moved up as he appears in a stage and in the final smashes of Villager of Isabelle.
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Underleveled 12/13/20 12:37:39 PM #35: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
If the lists are a hierarchy of some sort, Tom Nook should be moved up as he appears in a stage and in the final smashes of Villager of Isabelle.And Tingle has been an Assist Trophy. --- darkx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 12/13/20 2:02:17 PM #36: |
Hmm, Captain Toad, Doc Louis, Dracula, Master Hand and Tingle are also spirits, but it feels weird to include them there, especially the two bosses, as that's definitely their bigger role.
From the trophies and stickers, I checked went and checked the rest. Redd, Robotnik, Epona, Hades, Reyn and Tom Nook are all spirits too. Redd is also in the same stage as Tom Nook. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 12/17/20 5:18:28 PM #37: |
You can add Barret, Tifa and Aerith to Mii Fighter costumes now.
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Leonhart4 12/17/20 5:24:20 PM #38: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
You can add Barret, Tifa and Aerith to Mii Fighter costumes now. Tifa has already been in Ehrgeiz anyway (as have Zack and Vincent) in addition to Dissidia. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 12/17/20 5:44:25 PM #39: |
Yes, but this was the Smash Bros characters topic and not the fighting game characters topic.
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Leonhart4 12/17/20 5:53:42 PM #40: |
Oh right, having two similar topics is confusing!
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HaRRicH 12/18/20 10:56:57 PM #41: |
Appreciate the updates here, I'll get them in soon!
Regarding hierarchy, I think I tried to go from most playable to least playable, but you can already tell how that got weird. It's not perfect, but I also don't want to deal with duplicates. Regarding the costumes, fun additions to the list! We even almost got Boko...real close. I can't confirm this yet but I thought I saw a Cid Highwind spirit in the latest Nintendo Direct about Sephiroth...? Google didn't show me anything here so I could be wrong, but maybe somebody else can confirm or deny. And I can't believe how close we are to getting the Midgar Zolom on this list. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/0d/Sheik-Victory3-SSB4.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WazzupGenius00 12/18/20 11:19:54 PM #42: |
they didn't say anything about Spirits in the presentation at all actually, so we're just kinda waiting until the rest of the update drops to find out. For what it's worth there are four "spots" remaining on the DLC spirits page for new sets so it seems likely
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DomaDragoon 12/19/20 11:39:42 AM #43: |
https://twitter.com/NinWire/status/1339718267590492160
Nintendo Wire had posted an article and a tweet shortly after the presentation that shows the first page and a few of the other Spirits from the second page. Cid and Vincent are Spirits. --- Congratulations to azuarc, Guru champion! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 12/19/20 11:47:54 AM #44: |
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WazzupGenius00 12/19/20 12:12:35 PM #45: |
Whats the one on the bottom for the next page? I thought it might be The Turks but that wouldnt be long enough for the text to be at the edge of the image like that. Top one must be Chocobo Racing/Racer. Guessing Jenova will be a Legend, or will evolve into a Legend spirit
Oh, that link in the tweet has it. Its The Turks & Rufus Shinra. Chocobo is Chocobo and Moogle and there is also Shiva and at least two more not shown yet. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MegamanX 12/19/20 12:15:05 PM #46: |
time for a character battle
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HaRRicH 12/21/20 1:14:25 PM #47: |
<b>PLAYABLE (62):</b>
Banjo Bayonetta Bowser Captain Falcon Captain Olimar Charizard Chrom Cloud Diddy Kong Donkey Kong Duck Hunt Dog Falco Lombardi Fox McCloud Ganondorf Ike Isabelle Jigglypuff Joker Ken King Dedede King K. Rool Kirby Link Little Mac Lucario Lucina Lucas Luigi Mario Marth Mega Man Meta Knight Mewtwo Mr. Game & Watch Nana Ness Pac-Man Palutena Pikachu Pit Pokemon Trainer Red Princess Daisy Princess Peach Richter Belmont Ridley Rosalina Ryu Samus Aran Sephiroth Shulk Simon Belmont Solid Snake Sonic Squirtle Steve Terry Bogard Toon Link Wario Wolf O'Donnell Yoshi Young Link Zelda <b>MII FIGHTER-COSTUMES (27):</b> Aerith Akira Yuki Altair Barret Black Knight Bomberman Creeper Cuphead Dunban Geno Goemon Heihachi (GameFAQs vote-in) Iori Yagami Isaac Knuckles Lloyd Irving Mega Man X Proto Man Sans Slime Tails Tifa Travis Touchdown Toad Vault Boy Yu Narukami Zero <b>SPIRITS (41):</b> Akuma Amy Rose Big Boss Black Shadow Cid Highwind Chun-Li Chris Redfield Crazy Redd Dan Hibiki Dr. Robotnik Epona Fawful Felix Geese Howard (GameFAQs vote-in) Groose Gruntilda Hades Jill Valentine L-Tetrimino Leon Kennedy Liquid Snake M. Bison Metal Man Metal Sonic Mr. Resetti Otacon Primrose Raiden Rayman Revolver Ocelot Reyn Roll Sagat Shantae Sigma Soma Cruz Tharja The Boss Tom Nook Vincent Valentine Wesker <b>ASSIST TROPHIES/POKEBALLS/ITEMS (15):</b> Alucard Andross Blinky Dr. Wily Guile Lugia Lyndis Midna Mother Brain Paddle Sandbag Shadow the Hedgehog Shovel Knight Tingle Waluigi <b>STAGE/CHARACTER/MODE-SPECIFIC CHARACTERS (6):</b> ? Block Captain Toad Doc Louis (GameFAQs vote-in) Dracula Master Hand Prince of All Cosmos <b>TROPHIES AND STICKERS (3):</b> Agent J Commander Video Mudkip <b>REFERENCED BY TEXT (1):</b> Giygas <b>GRAND TOTAL: 155</b> --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/0d/Sheik-Victory3-SSB4.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 12/21/20 1:38:33 PM #48: |
Leonhart4 posted...
Poor Cid, put on the same level as Cait Sith Well for what its worth, he's a primary spirit, Cait Sith is support. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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