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Poop2
09/04/20 6:33:52 PM
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ayiiiiiiiiiiiikes
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GIT-GUD
09/04/20 6:34:21 PM
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Yikes!
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TheDurinator
09/04/20 6:34:58 PM
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Sadly, nothing can stop the live action remake train.
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TommyG663513
09/04/20 6:34:59 PM
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Yeah from the sounds of it they made a movie inferior to the animated version in everyway.

I'm sure the $30 price tag didn't help either.

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Doe
09/04/20 6:35:13 PM
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Is it because it's bad or because China hate

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Kazi1212
09/04/20 6:35:16 PM
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Yikes dont you gotta pay 30 bucks to watch it as well? Double yikes

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Abiz_
09/04/20 6:35:37 PM
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It's a movie made for China.
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Poop2
09/04/20 6:35:57 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Yikes dont you gotta pay 30 bucks to watch it as well? Double yikes
exactly.

imagine paying your buckos for disney then play another 30 SMACKERS on this shitty movie???!?!
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Abiz_
09/04/20 6:35:58 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Yikes dont you gotta pay 30 bucks to watch it as well? Double yikes
And a subscription.
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LightHawKnight
09/04/20 6:36:23 PM
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Doe posted...
Is it because it's bad or because China hate

From watching Jeremy Jahns' and Chris Stuckmann's reviews, pretty bad in comparison to the animated movie. If you don't compare it, it is an below average movie.

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CruelBuffalo
09/04/20 6:36:39 PM
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Is it because of being a bad movie or is this related to HK
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Vicious_Dios
09/04/20 6:37:32 PM
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Doe posted...
Is it because it's bad or because China hate

CruelBuffalo posted...
Is it because of being a bad movie or is this related to HK


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AlisLandale
09/04/20 6:43:48 PM
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None of the Disney live action remakes have been good so this isnt surprising.

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VonOrdelia
09/04/20 6:44:38 PM
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The critic score is 68 so I'd say it's pretty bad

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Poop2
09/04/20 6:44:42 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
None of the Disney live action remakes have been good so this isnt surprising.
yep. utter shit.

i wish they wouldnt make money though. now they are reinforcing their remake crap b/c of chinas billions
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LightHawKnight
09/04/20 6:45:06 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
None of the Disney live action remakes have been good so this isnt surprising.

Jungle Book was good.

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AlisLandale
09/04/20 6:47:18 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Jungle Book was good.

And other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself

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TheRealDill2022
09/04/20 6:47:43 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
AlisLandale posted...
None of the Disney live action remakes have been good so this isnt surprising.

Jungle Book was good.

Lion King too
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LightHawKnight
09/04/20 6:48:14 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
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So you didn't watch Jungle Book.

TheRealDill2022 posted...
Lion King too

No, Lion King was pretty bad.

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Zeeak4444
09/04/20 6:50:59 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
So you didn't watch Jungle Book.

No, Lion King was pretty bad.

both those and Aladdin were all okay. Inferior but whatever, maybe 65-75/100.

Beauty and the Beast is the only live action remake thats worth a damn.

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Prismsblade
09/04/20 7:00:32 PM
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If Disney keeps charging this much for their movies we may not have to worry about the theater disappearing anytime soon.

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Fam_Fam
09/04/20 7:03:04 PM
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wow $30 for unlimited access to a movie is so unreasonable!
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LightHawKnight
09/04/20 7:03:51 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
both those and Aladdin were all okay. Inferior but whatever, maybe 65-75/100.

Beauty and the Beast is the only live action remake thats worth a damn.

Nah, Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast were pretty meh. Only Jungle Book was good.

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Poop2
09/04/20 7:08:11 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
wow $30 for unlimited access to a movie is so unreasonable!
It is

stop stanning
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R_Jackal
09/04/20 7:16:34 PM
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It's worse than bad, it's painfully mediocre. It oozes with what could have been at every turn, only to disappoint.
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Poop2
09/04/20 7:17:06 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
It's worse than bad, it's painfully mediocre. It oozes with what could have been at every turn, only to disappoint.
oooh. ew. thats worse than being terrible.

its a cock tease.
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Zikten
09/04/20 7:21:06 PM
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I'll watch it when it switches to free. I still think it looks good
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AngelsNAirwav3s
09/04/20 7:25:25 PM
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It it because of HK? Or because they turn Mulan into a Mary Sue Elsa rip-off who was born with magical powers making her a god but told not to use them?

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MrMallard
09/04/20 7:26:15 PM
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The lead actress is pro-China in regards to what's happening in Hong Kong. I'm glad this shit is bombing.

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AsucaHayashi
09/04/20 7:29:37 PM
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R_Jackal posted...
It oozes with what could have been at every turn, only to disappoint.

lol i like this description.

so much budget and production value, so much opportunity for the grandeur it painfully tries to aim for but fizzles at most turns. i'm guessing this is the fault of the director who seems like she was going for epic without any type of prior experience to do so.

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Fam_Fam
09/04/20 7:37:14 PM
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Poop2 posted...
It is

stop stanning

how much would it cost to take your family to watch if it was in theaters today? how about only you and your s/o or friend even?

How much would a DVD cost when it would eventually come out? Now imagine having a DVD for you and multiple other people (multiple access points like you have with Disney plus).
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AlisLandale
09/04/20 7:59:38 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
So you didn't watch Jungle Book.

In an early Beta version of Earthbound on the SNES, Ness looks into a trash can and finds the Jungle Book live action blu ray instead of a hamburger

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Chicken
09/04/20 8:18:48 PM
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MrMallard posted...
The lead actress is pro-China in regards to what's happening in Hong Kong. I'm glad this shit is bombing.
Jackie Chan supports it too.

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LookANinja
09/04/20 8:25:09 PM
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Poop2
09/04/20 8:26:35 PM
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Chicken posted...
Jackie Chan supports it too.
then both are p. scummy tbh
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StarReaper13
09/04/20 8:46:31 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
How much would a DVD cost when it would eventually come out? Now imagine having a DVD for you and multiple other people (multiple access points like you have with Disney plus).
But if you factor in the Disney+ sub shouldn't it be cheaper than 30 bucks?

I mean 20 would have been much better and people wouldn't have had as much a problem with it.

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JuanCarlos1
09/04/20 8:46:36 PM
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Lion King has been the biggest offender so far mainly because real lions cant emote, movie is pretty much monochromatic (Savannah color) and Scars be prepared got cut short.

Aladdin was pretty decent, and while Will Smith did a decent job his singing felt held down compared to the original...plus once again all creativity and magic has to be dumbed down due to realistic setting.

In that regard I guess Beauty and the beast and jungle book were much more successful....with jungle book being my favorite. Looking forward to Mulan but Im not going to rate it based on the actors opinions of home politics or the current price of admission...which is the price youd pay in most places for just 2 or 3 people and its an actual discount for families.

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Poop2
09/04/20 8:47:16 PM
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Aladdin sucked
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Fam_Fam
09/04/20 8:53:58 PM
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StarReaper13 posted...
But if you factor in the Disney+ sub shouldn't it be cheaper than 30 bucks?

I mean 20 would have been much better and people wouldn't have had as much a problem with it.

and fewer people would have a problem with it was 10. but more if it was 40. that's not a good metric of if the price is reasonable or not.

disney+ subscription was not intended to be the drop point of new movies, which were supposed to drop in theaters, giving them extra income for a while until it was included for "free" as part of the platform.

the COVID stuff changed all that, and was never intended to be part of the subscription upon release. it just "feels" bad because (some) people are already paying a subscription. that doesn't make it unfair though, if you actually think about it.
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AlisLandale
09/04/20 9:00:43 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
and fewer people would have a problem with it was 10. but more if it was 40. that's not a good metric of if the price is reasonable or not.

disney+ subscription was not intended to be the drop point of new movies, which were supposed to drop in theaters, giving them extra income for a while until it was included for "free" as part of the platform.

the COVID stuff changed all that, and was never intended to be part of the subscription upon release. it just "feels" bad because (some) people are already paying a subscription. that doesn't make it unfair though, if you actually think about it.

Bruh Disney's got like, a jillion dollars they don't need your help defending their shitty business practices lol


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Poop2
09/04/20 9:09:17 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
Bruh Disney's got like, a jillion dollars they don't need your help defending their shitty business practices lol

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creativerealms
09/04/20 9:13:47 PM
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I dont know how trustworthy it is due to Anti-chinese sentiment.

Abiz_ posted...
It's a movie made for China.
There was a time not so long ago when China banned movies about their past. Including the animated Mulan.

And I don't care if it's made for China. I only care if its good or not. Quality matters not motive.

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creativerealms
09/04/20 9:14:23 PM
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I don't trust the audence rating. Its too easy to minipulate.

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Annihilated
09/04/20 9:17:29 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Jungle Book was good.

Jungle Book was justifiable, I wouldn't say good, because at least the original movie wasn't all that great to begin with so they had plenty of room to improve upon it. Mulan 2020 also seems justifiable, not necessarily good. While the original Mulan was a cherished classic, I had high hopes that they would try a different spin on it instead of just CTRL+V the original script.
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IShall_Run_Amok
09/04/20 9:28:19 PM
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Slant Magazine gave it a 1 star rating, with the headline "Disneys Mulan Remake Is a Lazy Show of Nationalist Messaging".

https://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review-disneys-mulan-remake-is-a-lazy-show-of-nationalist-messaging/

The reviewer, Sam C. Mac, seems fond of Chinese arthouse films - Wild Goose Lake, Ash Is Purest White, A Family Tour, Saturday Fiction and Wang Bing's monumental 8 hour documentary Dead Souls all got 3 1/3 stars - so he may have a bias against this sort of movie, as Chinese art films are far from nationalist. But nationalism sucks and so does Disney, so I think he's probably on the money.

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MrMallard
09/04/20 10:04:57 PM
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Here's what bothers me about the live action remakes - hypothetically, giving a new coat of paint to an old property is a decent idea. Cinderella apparently wasn't bad. The Jungle Book remake was pretty good.

Remaking Disney renaissance movies is where they've gone wrong, because they're still pretty recent in the cultural memory. The Lion King didn't need a remake. Beauty and the Beast didn't need a remake. Both of them look worse than the original movies, and they rehash the original material poorly. Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty and Snow White are older properties, and they profit from a reintroduction to modern audiences.

But there's a second, bigger issue that's marring these movies - Disney is basically revising each movie to address meaningless nitpicks. Dumbo is an older property which could benefit from a new coat of paint, but the new movie addresses animal cruelty in the circus and they reference Dumbo getting drunk with a bubble show and by Danny DeVito specifically saying "no champagne for the baby". Any ounce of edge or understated emotional maturity is gone. It's in line with Beauty and the Beast, where Belle is an outsider because she's a reader and an inventor and the close-minded villagers want to trample all over her dreams. So at this point, it doesn't matter what the property is - it's going to be wringed out into a soulless product made for the CinemaSins crowd, with passive-progressive aspects that don't appeal to actual progressive values and which mar the entire experience for everyone.

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creativerealms
09/04/20 10:25:47 PM
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As long as they make enough changes to justify the new version I'm fine with the remake. Something like Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin and Lion King didn't change enough and were mostly just the same movie done worse. Mulan at least changes alot, is a different take on the same story so at least feels more justified then some of the others.

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Fam_Fam
09/04/20 11:39:24 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
Bruh Disney's got like, a jillion dollars they don't need your help defending their shitty business practices lol

oh well i guess they should just stop making money then. they can afford it.
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Poop2
09/04/20 11:40:15 PM
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Fam_Fam posted...
oh well i guess they should just stop making money then. they can afford it.
this is the lowest effort trolling

do better
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