Current Events > Turns out the Kenosha shooter acted in self-defense

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De Evolution 08/26/20 12:27:56 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/courrielche/status/1298521601089007622?s=20 Don't know what preceded the incident, however, it's hard to argue someone shot you in "cold blood" when you're stomping them, hitting em with your skateboard, or aimed your pistol at em. Video footage clearly shows him being attacked. https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1298647269298909184?s=20 Was the kid racist? Possibly. Was he dumb? Absolutely. Should he have been there? Hell no. Was it even legal for him to be carrying that weapon? Since he was 17, I don't think so. HOWEVER.... don't start no shit won't be no shit. One of the dudes he shot in the arm pulled a gun on him first. Another dude threw a lit bottle/molotov cocktail at him. Another tried to stomp his head and smash him with a skateboard. You can't attack someone else then play victim. As awful as these shootings are, the kid didn't just walk up to people and murder them in cold blood. They attacked him. There has to be some accountability and common sense in these sensationalized incidents. If you don't want to be shot how about you don't attack other people as a start? --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:943843243] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/courrielche/status/1298521601089007622?s=20 Don't know what preceded the incident, however, it's hard to argue someone shot you in "cold blood" when you're stomping them, hitting em with your skateboard, or aimed your pistol at em. Video footage clearly shows him being attacked. https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1298647269298909184?s=20 Was the kid racist? Possibly. Was he dumb? Absolutely. Should he have been there? Hell no. Was it even legal for him to be carrying that weapon? Since he was 17, I don't think so. HOWEVER.... don't start no shit won't be no shit. One of the dudes he shot in the arm pulled a gun on him first. Another dude threw a lit bottle/molotov cocktail at him. Another tried to stomp his head and smash him with a skateboard. You can't attack someone else then play victim. As awful as these shootings are, the kid didn't just walk up to people and murder them in cold blood. They attacked him. There has to be some accountability and common sense in these sensationalized incidents. If you don't want to be shot how about you don't attack other people as a start? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 08/26/20 12:28:24 PM #2:	FUCK THAT i don't want to hear it --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:943843262] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>FUCK THAT i don't want to hear it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lysandear 08/26/20 12:29:00 PM #3:	De Evolution posted... Was the kid racist? Possibly. Was he dumb? Absolutely. Should he have been there? Hell no. Was it even legal for him to be carrying that weapon? Since he was 17, I don't think so. TC: self defense <cite>Lysandear posted [p:943843288] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>De Evolution posted... </cite> <quote>Was the kid racist? Possibly. Was he dumb? Absolutely. Should he have been there? Hell no. Was it even legal for him to be carrying that weapon? Since he was 17, I don't think so.</quote> TC: self defense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 08/26/20 12:30:31 PM #4:	Lysandear posted... TC: self defense But none of those things stop it from being self-defense. The worst part would be him illegally carrying a weapon. However even if you're illegally carrying a weapon, if someone attacks you and you use your gun, the use of force itself might not be illegal. Only the possession of the weapon. There are justified shootings where the person was illegally carrying the weapon. At the end of the day you can't just attack other human beings because you feel like it. For people who claim to care about individual lives, safety, and freedom, I would hope that would be understood. It's not quite murder if you're aiming a pistol at me or smashing my head with a skateboard. You can't attack someone else then play the victim. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:943843348] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Lysandear posted... </cite> <quote>TC: self defense</quote> But none of those things stop it from being self-defense. The worst part would be him illegally carrying a weapon. However even if you're illegally carrying a weapon, if someone attacks you and you use your gun, the use of force itself might not be illegal. Only the possession of the weapon. There are justified shootings where the person was illegally carrying the weapon. At the end of the day you can't just attack other human beings because you feel like it. For people who claim to care about individual lives, safety, and freedom, I would hope that would be understood. It's not quite murder if you're aiming a pistol at me or smashing my head with a skateboard. You can't attack someone else then play the victim. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 08/26/20 12:32:09 PM #5:	These people brought weapons to the protest clearly to intimidate people theres an easy argument to be made that they instigated everything by brandishing weaponry --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:943843408] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>These people brought weapons to the protest clearly to intimidate people theres an easy argument to be made that they instigated everything by brandishing weaponry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 08/26/20 12:32:24 PM #6:	This is copied from a Facebook post: Unfriendly reminder that self-defense laws in Wisconsin require an inability to retreat + credible threat to life. Kyle Rittenhouse didn't meet the criteria. He's just a murderer, cut and dry. Not to mention you have to be 18 in Wisconsin to open carry. He's 17 years old. Did he have the ability to retreat? --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:943843424] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>This is copied from a Facebook post: <quote>Unfriendly reminder that self-defense laws in Wisconsin require an inability to retreat + credible threat to life. Kyle Rittenhouse didn't meet the criteria. He's just a murderer, cut and dry. Not to mention you have to be 18 in Wisconsin to open carry. He's 17 years old.</quote> Did he have the ability to retreat? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 08/26/20 12:33:21 PM #7:	Tired-Insomniac posted... This is copied from a Facebook post: Did he have the ability to retreat? Did you not see him on the ground getting jumped with multiple armed attackers on him? He was literally running away and was attacked. The video is right there. If the people he shot don't attack him, they don't go home in body bags. Everyone needs to keep their hands to themselves. TheGoldenEel posted... These people brought weapons to the protest clearly to intimidate people theres an easy argument to be made that they instigated everything by brandishing weaponry No. Simply being armed is not intimidation. That's not how the 2nd amendment and US gun laws work. At the end of the day, the people that were shot violently attacked someone else first. I don't care if people are just standing around holding weapons, not harming anyone. I do care if people are violently attacking and physically assaulting other people. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:943843462] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Tired-Insomniac posted... </cite> <quote>This is copied from a Facebook post: Did he have the ability to retreat?</quote> Did you not see him on the ground getting jumped with multiple armed attackers on him? He was literally running away and was attacked. The video is right there. If the people he shot don't attack him, they don't go home in body bags. Everyone needs to keep their hands to themselves. TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>These people brought weapons to the protest clearly to intimidate people theres an easy argument to be made that they instigated everything by brandishing weaponry</quote> No. Simply being armed is not intimidation. That's not how the 2nd amendment and US gun laws work. At the end of the day, the people that were shot violently attacked someone else first. I don't care if people are just standing around holding weapons, not harming anyone. I do care if people are violently attacking and physically assaulting other people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelestialVoices 08/26/20 12:34:05 PM #8:	they tried to rush him and execute him while he tripped and was on the ground so and then that one guy tried again even after being shot at and got his arm blown off and you can still see the gun in his hand in a picture later so --- ginger ale is lit http://www.last.fm/user/pinkfloydrulez <cite>CelestialVoices posted [p:943843499] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>they tried to rush him and execute him while he tripped and was on the ground so and then that one guy tried again even after being shot at and got his arm blown off and you can still see the gun in his hand in a picture later so</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 08/26/20 12:35:46 PM #9:	Is one of those militia idiots literally smoking a cigarette at the gas station hes trying to protect? Also because a guy said shoot me N word that means the shooting is justified? Lol wut <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:943843576] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Is one of those militia idiots literally smoking a cigarette at the gas station hes trying to protect? Also because a guy said shoot me N word that means the shooting is justified? Lol wut </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pkmas1702 08/26/20 12:35:54 PM #10:	Play stupid game, win stupid prize... --- I'm gonna stand outside. If anyone asks, I'm outstanding. <cite>Pkmas1702 posted [p:943843581] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Play stupid game, win stupid prize... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 08/26/20 12:37:05 PM #11:	Pkmas1702 posted... Play stupid game, win stupid prize... Yup and now a 17 year old played a stupid game and his whole life is thrown away because he wanted to cosplay as a cop <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:943843625] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Pkmas1702 posted... </cite> <quote>Play stupid game, win stupid prize...</quote> Yup and now a 17 year old played a stupid game and his whole life is thrown away because he wanted to cosplay as a cop </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 08/26/20 12:37:10 PM #12:	De Evolution posted... Did you not see him on the ground getting jumped with multiple armed attackers on him? He was literally running away and was attacked. The video is right there. Can't watch it since I'm at work, that's why I asked if he could retreat --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:943843630] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>De Evolution posted... </cite> <quote>Did you not see him on the ground getting jumped with multiple armed attackers on him? He was literally running away and was attacked. The video is right there.</quote> Can't watch it since I'm at work, that's why I asked if he could retreat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Warrior_Man 08/26/20 12:37:24 PM #13:	CruelBuffalo posted... Is one of those militia idiots literally smoking a cigarette at the gas station hes trying to protect? Also because a guy said shoot me N word that means the shooting is justified? Lol wut I don't think he shot him for saying "shoot me n**", pretty sure he shot him for charging at him like a moronic bull. --- In memory of Calvin Johnson Jr.'s touchdown catch to beat the Bears. 9-12-10 Terrible officiating to prevent a miracle. <cite>Warrior_Man posted [p:943843637] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>CruelBuffalo posted... </cite> <quote>Is one of those militia idiots literally smoking a cigarette at the gas station hes trying to protect? Also because a guy said shoot me N word that means the shooting is justified? Lol wut</quote>I don't think he shot him for saying "shoot me n**", pretty sure he shot him for charging at him like a moronic bull. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pkmas1702 08/26/20 12:38:49 PM #14:	CruelBuffalo posted... Yup and now a 17 year old played a stupid game and his whole life is thrown away because he wanted to cosplay as a cop I mean the rioters --- I'm gonna stand outside. If anyone asks, I'm outstanding. <cite>Pkmas1702 posted [p:943843700] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>CruelBuffalo posted... </cite> <quote>Yup and now a 17 year old played a stupid game and his whole life is thrown away because he wanted to cosplay as a cop</quote>I mean the rioters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 08/26/20 12:39:00 PM #15:	CruelBuffalo posted... Also because a guy said shoot me N word that means the shooting is justified? Lol wut Huh? No one's saying that. That guy seems to rush one of the armed men and attack them. The video and context is literally in the first twitter thread I linked. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:943843711] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>CruelBuffalo posted... </cite> <quote> Also because a guy said shoot me N word that means the shooting is justified? Lol wut</quote> Huh? No one's saying that. That guy seems to rush one of the armed men and attack them. The video and context is literally in the first twitter thread I linked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lysandear 08/26/20 12:39:27 PM #16:	Is it really moddable to bring up that thing TC is? <cite>Lysandear posted [p:943843729] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Is it really moddable to bring up that thing TC is? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 08/26/20 12:39:52 PM #17:	Lysandear posted... Is it really moddable to bring up that thing TC is? You guys hate the truth so much. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:943843741] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Lysandear posted... </cite> <quote>Is it really moddable to bring up that thing TC is?</quote> You guys hate the truth so much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 08/26/20 12:40:10 PM #18:	TheGoldenEel posted... These people brought weapons to the protest clearly to intimidate people theres an easy argument to be made that they instigated everything by brandishing weaponry "Protest" --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:943843758] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>These people brought weapons to the protest clearly to intimidate people theres an easy argument to be made that they instigated everything by brandishing weaponry</quote>"Protest" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 08/26/20 12:40:24 PM #19:	Pkmas1702 posted... I mean the rioters I said what I said <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:943843767] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Pkmas1702 posted... </cite> <quote>I mean the rioters</quote>I said what I said </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 08/26/20 12:44:29 PM #20:	There's no way this doesn't get worse. People are sick of the rioting and I don't blame them. But you can't keep doing this shit night after night and expect no resistance from the other side. That's just naive --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:943843906] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>There's no way this doesn't get worse. People are sick of the rioting and I don't blame them. But you can't keep doing this shit night after night and expect no resistance from the other side. That's just naive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 08/26/20 12:55:16 PM #21:	I'm just disgusted at how counter-productive all this rioting is to any practical social justice. What does this do? Embolden Trump voters. Drives reactionaries to the polls. Democrats lose House seats, Senate seats, and SCOTUS positions as public opinion turns against social justice as it becomes more and more associated with violence. Real change becomes impossible. White Supremacists become emboldened and racist dogwhistles become the new norm. Welcome to the New America, one where we commit violence because we are unheard, and no one listens because we are committed to violence. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:943844265] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>I'm just disgusted at how counter-productive all this rioting is to any practical social justice. What does this do? Embolden Trump voters. Drives reactionaries to the polls. Democrats lose House seats, Senate seats, and SCOTUS positions as public opinion turns against social justice as it becomes more and more associated with violence. Real change becomes impossible. White Supremacists become emboldened and racist dogwhistles become the new norm. Welcome to the New America, one where we commit violence because we are unheard, and no one listens because we are committed to violence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 08/26/20 12:55:17 PM #22:	Pogo_Marimo posted... "Protest" Violent protest is still protest if the powers that be hadnt ignored the peaceful protests they wouldnt have escalated into violent protests --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:943844266] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Pogo_Marimo posted... </cite> <quote>"Protest"</quote>Violent protest is still protest if the powers that be hadnt ignored the peaceful protests they wouldnt have escalated into violent protests </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 08/26/20 12:56:23 PM #23:	TheGoldenEel posted... Violent protest is still protest if the powers that be hadnt ignored the peaceful protests they wouldnt have escalated into violent protests It's a riot and that doesn't excuse it --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:943844309] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>Violent protest is still protest if the powers that be hadnt ignored the peaceful protests they wouldnt have escalated into violent protests</quote>It's a riot and that doesn't excuse it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poop2 08/26/20 12:57:48 PM #24:	why would i believe a racist tiwtter account? <cite>Poop2 posted [p:943844364] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>why would i believe a racist tiwtter account? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 08/26/20 12:58:44 PM #25:	Smackems posted... It's a riot and that doesn't excuse it Violent uprising has been the catalyst for political change for centuries just because it makes you uncomfortable doesnt mean it cant be effective in fact, that it makes you uncomfortable and is making you confront the movement instead of just ignoring it, means it is having an effect --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:943844408] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>It's a riot and that doesn't excuse it</quote>Violent uprising has been the catalyst for political change for centuries just because it makes you uncomfortable doesnt mean it cant be effective in fact, that it makes you uncomfortable and is making you confront the movement instead of just ignoring it, means it is having an effect </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 08/26/20 1:02:52 PM #26:	TheGoldenEel posted... Violent uprising has been the catalyst for political change for centuries just because it makes you uncomfortable doesnt mean it cant be effective in fact, that it makes you uncomfortable and is making you confront the movement instead of just ignoring it, means it is having an effect gamefaqs revolutionary posters are my favorite posters --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:943844542] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>Violent uprising has been the catalyst for political change for centuries just because it makes you uncomfortable doesnt mean it cant be effective in fact, that it makes you uncomfortable and is making you confront the movement instead of just ignoring it, means it is having an effect</quote> gamefaqs revolutionary posters are my favorite posters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 08/26/20 1:06:20 PM #27:	TheGoldenEel posted... Violent uprising has been the catalyst for political change for centuries just because it makes you uncomfortable doesnt mean it cant be effective in fact, that it makes you uncomfortable and is making you confront the movement instead of just ignoring it, means it is having an effect You're not going to spin this into something positive lmao. What they're doing is wrong and turning people against them including me. Fuck them And before you start in on the other bs, yes cops are in the wrong too and yes this kid was stupid. Doesn't give them a pass to destroy shit and people's lives that have nothing to do with it --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:943844675] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>Violent uprising has been the catalyst for political change for centuries just because it makes you uncomfortable doesnt mean it cant be effective in fact, that it makes you uncomfortable and is making you confront the movement instead of just ignoring it, means it is having an effect</quote>You're not going to spin this into something positive lmao. What they're doing is wrong and turning people against them including me. Fuck them And before you start in on the other bs, yes cops are in the wrong too and yes this kid was stupid. Doesn't give them a pass to destroy shit and people's lives that have nothing to do with it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfThaJedi 08/26/20 1:14:28 PM #28:	If only the cops hadnt shot that guy --- https://vine.co/v/OnxDJZlq5nF #1 RWBY Superfan <cite>ReturnOfThaJedi posted [p:943844945] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>If only the cops hadnt shot that guy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HANGtheDJ_86 08/26/20 1:16:40 PM #29:	Please leave your pew pews by the door next time please --- Green is the Color <cite>HANGtheDJ_86 posted [p:943845048] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Please leave your pew pews by the door next time please </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KyerWiz 08/26/20 1:20:34 PM #30:	De Evolution posted... No. Simply being armed is not intimidation. That's not how the 2nd amendment and US gun laws work. So a guy (illegally) open carrying a weapon with the very obvious context that he's here against the protesters is not intimidation and untrained civilians have no reason to fear for their lives. Meanwhile, trained cops regularly get away with "fearing for their lives" against civilians should there be a weapon (or the possibility of) anywhere near. That's fucked up, dude. <cite>KyerWiz posted [p:943845197] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>De Evolution posted... </cite> <quote>No. Simply being armed is not intimidation. That's not how the 2nd amendment and US gun laws work.</quote>So a guy (illegally) open carrying a weapon with the very obvious context that he's here against the protesters is not intimidation and untrained civilians have no reason to fear for their lives. Meanwhile, trained cops regularly get away with "fearing for their lives" against civilians should there be a weapon (or the possibility of) anywhere near. That's fucked up, dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 08/26/20 1:22:25 PM #31:	Smackems posted... There's no way this doesn't get worse. People are sick of the rioting and I don't blame them. But you can't keep doing this shit night after night and expect no resistance from the other side. That's just naive It is also naive to think that continually allowing police to murder people without consequence won't meet with resistance. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:943845272] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote> Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>There's no way this doesn't get worse. People are sick of the rioting and I don't blame them. But you can't keep doing this shit night after night and expect no resistance from the other side. That's just naive</quote>It is also naive to think that continually allowing police to murder people without consequence won't meet with resistance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 08/26/20 1:23:13 PM #32:	ScazarMeltex posted... It is also naive to think that continually allowing police to murder people without consequence won't meet with resistance. Agreed --- Common sense is the most uncommon thing in the world-some dude. <cite>Smackems posted [p:943845301] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>It is also naive to think that continually allowing police to murder people without consequence won't meet with resistance.</quote>Agreed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 08/26/20 1:26:53 PM #33:	KyerWiz posted... So a guy (illegally) open carrying a weapon with the very obvious context that he's here against the protesters is not intimidation and untrained civilians have no reason to fear for their lives. Meanwhile, trained cops regularly get away with "fearing for their lives" against civilians should there be a weapon (or the possibility of) anywhere near. That's fucked up, dude. Isn't Wisconsin an open carry state? --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:943845444] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>KyerWiz posted... </cite> <quote>So a guy (illegally) open carrying a weapon with the very obvious context that he's here against the protesters is not intimidation and untrained civilians have no reason to fear for their lives. Meanwhile, trained cops regularly get away with "fearing for their lives" against civilians should there be a weapon (or the possibility of) anywhere near. That's fucked up, dude.</quote> Isn't Wisconsin an open carry state? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 08/26/20 1:28:13 PM #34:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Isn't Wisconsin an open carry state? Yes. The thing is the shooter was 17 so technically not allowed to do so. Though by just appearances or general law, open carry is allowed. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:943845503] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>AngelsNAirwav3s posted... </cite> <quote>Isn't Wisconsin an open carry state?</quote> Yes. The thing is the shooter was 17 so technically not allowed to do so. Though by just appearances or general law, open carry is allowed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 08/26/20 1:30:41 PM #35:	ReturnOfThaJedi posted... If only the cops hadnt shot that guy If only it was that simple. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:943845598] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfThaJedi posted... </cite> <quote>If only the cops hadnt shot that guy</quote> If only it was that simple. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeantownHero 08/26/20 1:31:54 PM #36:	The Trent posted... gamefaqs revolutionary posters are my favorite posters only topped by gamefaqs contrarians --- Black In America https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1527-black-in-america <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:943845644] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>The Trent posted... </cite> <quote>gamefaqs revolutionary posters are my favorite posters</quote> only topped by gamefaqs contrarians </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arrow2theknees 08/26/20 1:32:37 PM #37:	Seems like he went there looking to make something violent happen. --- GOATS WILL BE STOLEN <cite>Arrow2theknees posted [p:943845668] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Seems like he went there looking to make something violent happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeantownHero 08/26/20 1:32:52 PM #38:	Anyway, that kid is going down. He was already arrested --- Black In America https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1527-black-in-america <cite>BeantownHero posted [p:943845677] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Anyway, that kid is going down. He was already arrested </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KyerWiz 08/26/20 1:33:09 PM #39:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Isn't Wisconsin an open carry state? De Evolution posted... Was it even legal for him to be carrying that weapon? Since he was 17, I don't think so. That would be why I put (illegally) in parenthesis since that's not something that could've been known by simple observation. Hardly changes the point, I think. <cite>KyerWiz posted [p:943845689] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>AngelsNAirwav3s posted... </cite> <quote>Isn't Wisconsin an open carry state?</quote> De Evolution posted... </cite> <quote>Was it even legal for him to be carrying that weapon? Since he was 17, I don't think so.</quote> That would be why I put (illegally) in parenthesis since that's not something that could've been known by simple observation. Hardly changes the point, I think. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 08/26/20 1:33:53 PM #40:	Arrow2theknees posted... Seems like he went there looking to make something violent happen. Violent things were already happening. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:943845711] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Arrow2theknees posted... </cite> <quote>Seems like he went there looking to make something violent happen.</quote> Violent things were already happening. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tm315 08/26/20 1:37:12 PM #41:	Are you his lawyer TC? He's being charged with murder. But it's cool you know so much about the self defense law in Wisconsin https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/kenosha-gunman-kyle-rittenhouse-arrested-for-after-cops-let-him-flee-out-of-state/ <cite>tm315 posted [p:943845850] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Are you his lawyer TC? He's being charged with murder. But it's cool you know so much about the self defense law in Wisconsin https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/kenosha-gunman-kyle-rittenhouse-arrested-for-after-cops-let-him-flee-out-of-state/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 08/26/20 1:39:53 PM #42:	rekt --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:943845958] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>rekt </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 08/26/20 1:41:44 PM #43:	Yeah, if it was illegal open carry then he's going to jail for murder. GG dude. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:943846017] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, if it was illegal open carry then he's going to jail for murder. GG dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tigerslashII 08/26/20 1:44:29 PM #44:	Pogo_Marimo posted... Yeah, if it was illegal open carry then he's going to jail for murder. GG dude. The two charges are independent. If you have a weapon and defend yourself, but you shouldn't have the weapon, that's not an automatic murder charge. --- Get a loada this guy here. https://imgur.com/5fTKLaM <cite>tigerslashII posted [p:943846129] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Pogo_Marimo posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, if it was illegal open carry then he's going to jail for murder. GG dude.</quote>The two charges are independent. If you have a weapon and defend yourself, but you shouldn't have the weapon, that's not an automatic murder charge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 08/26/20 1:45:17 PM #45:	tigerslashII posted... The two charges are independent. If you have a weapon and defend yourself, but you shouldn't have the weapon, that's not an automatic murder charge. This. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:943846164] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>tigerslashII posted... </cite> <quote>The two charges are independent. If you have a weapon and defend yourself, but you shouldn't have the weapon, that's not an automatic murder charge.</quote> This. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tigerslashII 08/26/20 1:47:17 PM #46:	Kid is going to get tried as a juvie and get probation for a month. --- Get a loada this guy here. https://imgur.com/5fTKLaM <cite>tigerslashII posted [p:943846236] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Kid is going to get tried as a juvie and get probation for a month. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 08/26/20 1:47:27 PM #47:	tigerslashII posted... The two charges are independent. If you have a weapon and defend yourself, but you shouldn't have the weapon, that's not an automatic murder charge. He's been charged with murder so does it really matter at this point --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:943846240] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>tigerslashII posted... </cite> <quote>The two charges are independent. If you have a weapon and defend yourself, but you shouldn't have the weapon, that's not an automatic murder charge.</quote> He's been charged with murder so does it really matter at this point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
De Evolution 08/26/20 1:48:17 PM #48:	tigerslashII posted... Kid is going to get tried as a juvie and get probation for a month. If he gets a good lawyer he might beat the case outright. The footage shows him being attacked while trying to flee. Even the first guy who was shot in the head seems to be bumrushing him.... This shit is so weird I don't get what is going on. --- Let go your earthly tether. Enter the void. Empty, and become wind. <cite>De Evolution posted [p:943846277] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>tigerslashII posted... </cite> <quote>Kid is going to get tried as a juvie and get probation for a month.</quote> If he gets a good lawyer he might beat the case outright. The footage shows him being attacked while trying to flee. Even the first guy who was shot in the head seems to be bumrushing him.... This shit is so weird I don't get what is going on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 08/26/20 1:50:21 PM #49:	De Evolution posted... If he gets a good lawyer he might beat the case outright. The footage shows him being attacked while trying to flee. Even the first guy who was shot in the head seems to be bumrushing him.... This shit is so weird I don't get what is going on. Probably because you're really bad at analyzing this --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:943846339] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>De Evolution posted... </cite> <quote>If he gets a good lawyer he might beat the case outright. The footage shows him being attacked while trying to flee. Even the first guy who was shot in the head seems to be bumrushing him.... This shit is so weird I don't get what is going on.</quote> Probably because you're really bad at analyzing this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 08/26/20 1:52:34 PM #50:	Crazy how TC did all this internet detective work to show how it was self defense yet the real authorities arrested him the next day before noon and charged him with murder. It's almost like watching videos from social media doesn't make you an expert. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:943846417] in Turns out ... [t:78935002]...</cite> <quote>Crazy how TC did all this internet detective work to show how it was self defense yet the real authorities arrested him the next day before noon and charged him with murder. It's almost like watching videos from social media doesn't make you an expert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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