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JBaLLEN66
08/06/20 1:42:35 PM
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Quit bringing him up Bernie bros

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BudDupree48
08/06/20 1:43:29 PM
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I cant think of anyone more irrelevant than Bernard sanders

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Doom_Art
08/06/20 1:44:14 PM
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BudDupree48 posted...
I cant think of anyone more irrelevant than Bernard sanders
Oh shut up lol

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
08/06/20 1:44:36 PM
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sad state for humanity when Bernie Sanders loses against Donald Trump.
I am legit worried about all the Trump voters no matter who wins the election. Not like these people will be going away.

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JimmyFraska
08/06/20 1:47:41 PM
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And Biden will lose too. Even the Dems best choice, Kamala Harris, would have likely lost against Trump.
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Big_Nabendu
08/06/20 1:47:51 PM
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So will Biden

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Doom_Art
08/06/20 1:48:23 PM
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Before covid I'm not entirely certain Sanders would've won. He's well-liked on an individual level but a lot of folks don't care for his politics. He's also not particularly good at making political relationships or electioneering.

After covid and the Floyd protests? Oh heck I'm sure he'd have beaten Trump in the fall

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Broseph_Stalin
08/06/20 1:55:33 PM
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I mean there's a reason Trump was so desperate to run against Bernie.

In fact there's been a noticeable change in his demeanor since Biden got the nomination, like he's already accepted his loss.
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Doom_Art
08/06/20 1:57:18 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
I mean there's a reason Trump was so desperate to run against Bernie.
Trump is also an idiot.

Iunno if Bernie would've won pre-covid but he certainly would be a formidable challenge to Trump.

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JBaLLEN66
08/06/20 1:57:25 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
And Biden will lose too. Even the Dems best choice, Kamala Harris, would have likely lost against Trump.

how will he win

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MaxEffingBemis
08/06/20 1:58:36 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Before covid I'm not entirely certain Sanders would've won. He's well-liked on an individual level but a lot of folks don't care for his politics. He's also not particularly good at making political relationships or electioneering.

After covid and the Floyd protests? Oh heck I'm sure he'd have beaten Trump in the fall
Im gonna challenge you on a lot of folks dont care for his politics when upon exit polls most people supported things like Medicare for all

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ALIEN_WORK2HOP
08/06/20 1:58:54 PM
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It always amazes me how Bernie was made out to be some crazy hardcore radical leftist, when most of his stances were fucking normal for basically most of the western world.

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ThunderTrain
08/06/20 1:59:54 PM
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Bernie: Hey how about a better life for everyone and all we have to do is tax the ultra billionaires a bit more?

Most people in the USA: UGH, fucking disgusting socialism, go back to Russia commie bastard.

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Doom_Art
08/06/20 2:00:29 PM
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
It always amazes me how Bernie was made out to be some crazy hardcore radical leftist, when most of his stances were fucking normal for basically most of the western world.

you're not trying to win an election in most of the western world

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Alpha218
08/06/20 2:03:49 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
I mean there's a reason Trump was so desperate to run against Bernie.

In fact there's been a noticeable change in his demeanor since Biden got the nomination, like he's already accepted his loss.
Privately he was freaking out about Sanders

The change in demeanor with respect to Biden is when he realizes hes fucked up hard on covid and cant stick labels on Biden (the Burisma thing isnt working as well as theyd hoped, because while they were screaming about Hillarys emails nonstop at this point in 2016, I have heard almost nothing about Ukraine since the senate acquitted Trump)

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Broseph_Stalin
08/06/20 2:04:16 PM
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ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted...
It always amazes me how Bernie was made out to be some crazy hardcore radical leftist, when most of his stances were fucking normal for basically most of the western world.

I'm so tired of hearing this argument. Nationalization, price controls, protectionism, wealth taxes, etc have not been "normal" in the western world since keynesianism collapsed in the 70s. It's like you guys ignore the fact that the same exact thing happened to labor and other left-wing parties in the 80s and 90s. He is to the left of the Democrats in the US and would be to the left of most governing parties anywhere else.
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Broseph_Stalin
08/06/20 2:04:42 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
Privately he was freaking out about Sanders

I'm sure that's what you want to believe.
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Alpha218
08/06/20 2:05:16 PM
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I mean it was leaked info. Its not what I want to believe. Hes on tape saying that

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Doom_Art
08/06/20 2:05:45 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
I'm sure that's what you want to believe.
I mean I very clearly remember the primary

Trump was definitely sweating a Sanders win.

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Damn_Underscore
08/06/20 2:07:14 PM
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To be fair Bernie would have at least won a lot of states like the west coast states and other strong blue states.

But he would have lost every swing state, and even states where the margin was within 10% in 2016 (Virginia, Nevada, Minnesota, etc.)

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darkphoenix181
08/06/20 2:07:19 PM
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Should been Bernie not Biden.

Biden vp will be important, don't think he gonna make a full four years.
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Broseph_Stalin
08/06/20 2:08:13 PM
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Alpha218 posted...
I mean it was leaked info. Its not what I want to believe. Hes on tape saying that

That leaked audio was Trump saying him and Bernie agree on things like trade and that a lot of his supporters voted for him in 2016, which is true.

That doesn't mean Trump was worried about Bernie. You don't worry about a person who spends half a billion dollars to lose to Hillary and Biden.
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SevenTenths
08/06/20 2:08:14 PM
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Except people actually want Bernie. No one wants Biden they just don't want someone else more.

No one can ever talk about Biden in regards to supporting him.

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Doom_Art
08/06/20 2:08:24 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Biden vp will be important, don't think he gonna make a full four years.
I think he'll only have one term, but this insinuation that he's gonna keel over in a few months is ridiculous

just like how everyone was predicting that hillary was gonna drop dead in 2016

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Doom_Art
08/06/20 2:09:12 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Except people actually want Bernie.
if this were true you would think more people would've voted for him

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Damn_Underscore
08/06/20 2:09:17 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Except people actually want Bernie.

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/super-tuesday/

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Broseph_Stalin
08/06/20 2:09:25 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
Except people actually want Bernie. No one wants Biden

do you get your news from Jacobin or something
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sondast
08/06/20 2:09:57 PM
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BudDupree48 posted...
I cant think of anyone more irrelevant than Bernard sanders
Then that really says a lot about your grasp of current/political events.

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SevenTenths
08/06/20 2:11:24 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
if this were true you would think more people would've voted for him

Hey look you're trolling again.

How was Biden doing before Obama got involved?

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Antifar
08/06/20 2:11:29 PM
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I think people really underestimate Hillary's unpopularity.
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Doom_Art
08/06/20 2:12:46 PM
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SevenTenths posted...
How was Biden doing before Obama got involved?
Could you describe to me what you think happened and why it affected Sanders

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darkphoenix181
08/06/20 2:13:46 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
I think he'll only have one term, but this insinuation that he's gonna keel over in a few months is ridiculous

just like how everyone was predicting that hillary was gonna drop dead in 2016

That was a meme with Hillary.
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Broseph_Stalin
08/06/20 2:14:24 PM
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toast is like a bernie bro parody some right-winger couldn't possible dream up
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Doom_Art
08/06/20 2:14:25 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
That was a meme with Hillary.

what

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cjsdowg
08/06/20 2:14:29 PM
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Most times we don't it is assholes like Clintons who bring up him.

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JBaLLEN66
08/06/20 2:16:05 PM
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Antifar posted...
I think people really underestimate Hillary's unpopularity.

exactly lol

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Broseph_Stalin
08/06/20 2:18:16 PM
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also "where was Biden before Obama got involved????" winning South Carolina by 30 points lmao.
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darkphoenix181
08/06/20 2:19:20 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
what

You said everyone predicted she would keel over but it was just Trumpeters and memers taking her having a cough.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/09/should-a-president-cough/498734/
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Zikten
08/06/20 2:20:37 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
And Biden will lose too. Even the Dems best choice, Kamala Harris, would have likely lost against Trump.

Biden has already done better in the polls than Hillary did. and he's decimating Trump
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Doom_Art
08/06/20 2:22:06 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
You said everyone predicted she would keel over but it was just Trumpeters and memers taking her having a cough.
eh this is some revisionist crap lol

it wasn't people making good natured jokes about a cough

it was one of the major things i'd heard about for several months of the campaign

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Jeff_Garcia7
08/06/20 2:46:24 PM
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Exit polls (hell, polls in general) showed people prefer Bernie's policies. Certainly moreso than Biden's, who might be the only antiweed Democrat.

Trump stated in leaked audio Bernie was the only one he was worried about. There were also reports of him frustrated over how he's supposed to fight against the guy that's giving people free s***.

Democrats have a history of picking people they don't personally like to persuade imaginary swing conservatives. Unlike Republicans, Democrat primary voters have always had a fondness for Comcast and AT&T media outlets which has only been bolstered during the times that these outlets are seen as resistance to Trump.

So when Comcast gave Biden billions worth of fawning earned media from every Dem familiar face coming out to revive Biden's dead campaign that voters had rejected to 5th place in the previous few contests, Dem voters listen.

It's really as simple as that. There is a reason Biden was struggling before this and why he still has record lows of enthusiasm. It's because people were told to settle for him by Comcast if they wanted to beat Trump.

Biden was given the head start of being the VP to one of the most popular presidents ever and was a 5th place candidate.

To think Biden was some policy popular powerhouse winning all the debates would take getting all your news from the 538 podcast/Comcast trust fund baby bubble
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Paper_Okami
08/06/20 2:47:41 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
ut a lot of folks don't care for his politics.

most of his major policies are extremely popular nationwide, particularly medicare 4all which was the crux of his campaign

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Jeff_Garcia7
08/06/20 2:50:20 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
most of his major policies are extremely popular nationwide, particularly medicare 4all which was the crux of his campaign
He means the rich people he saw on TV don't like Bernie so that must mean his policies are unpopular.
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Broseph_Stalin
08/06/20 2:50:41 PM
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Jeff_Garcia7 posted...
Democrats have a history of picking people they don't personally like to persuade imaginary swing conservatives.

That's literally how Clinton and Obama got elected lmao

Jeff_Garcia7 posted...
trust fund baby bubble

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YellowSUV
08/06/20 2:52:01 PM
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Bernie would be doing very good with the economic shitstrom we are in right now. Democrats could of picked almost anyone to run against Trump and still be doing right now.

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Doom_Art
08/06/20 2:54:00 PM
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YellowSUV posted...
Democrats could of picked almost anyone to run against Trump

could of picked almost anyone

could of picked

could of


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Broseph_Stalin
08/06/20 2:57:09 PM
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Also just a reminder that policy polling is basically useless for a number of reasons. If people wanted progressive policies they would vote for progressive candidates.
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Jeff_Garcia7
08/06/20 2:58:38 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
That's literally how Clinton and Obama got elected lmao

It's how Kerry and Clinton got elected. Barack Obama was not a safe pick to win over a conservative imaginary friends. He's credited to mass turnout of non-typical primary voters that got him over the hump.

It was hilarious for the Democratic party to use the strategy of electing Hillary to win over Republicans in the suburbs. GOP voters have never hated anyone more. So are these highly paid strategists really that dumb or is the mask slipping off that their primary goal is to defeat lefty candidates.
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cjsdowg
08/06/20 2:58:45 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
lso just a reminder that policy polling is basically useless for a number of reasons. If people wanted progressive policies they would vote for progressive candidates.

They did, when they voted for Obama and he turned out to be just like everyone else.

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Southernfatman
08/06/20 2:59:43 PM
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Jeff_Garcia7 posted...
Exit polls (hell, polls in general) showed people prefer Bernie's policies. Certainly moreso than Biden's, who might be the only antiweed Democrat.

Trump stated in leaked audio Bernie was the only one he was worried about. There were also reports of him frustrated over how he's supposed to fight against the guy that's giving people free s***.

Democrats have a history of picking people they don't personally like to persuade imaginary swing conservatives. Unlike Republicans, Democrat primary voters have always had a fondness for Comcast and AT&T media outlets which has only been bolstered during the times that these outlets are seen as resistance to Trump.

So when Comcast gave Biden billions worth of fawning earned media from every Dem familiar face coming out to revive Biden's dead campaign that voters had rejected to 5th place in the previous few contests, Dem voters listen.

It's really as simple as that. There is a reason Biden was struggling before this and why he still has record lows of enthusiasm. It's because people were told to settle for him by Comcast if they wanted to beat Trump.

Biden was given the head start of being the VP to one of the most popular presidents ever and was a 5th place candidate.

To think Biden was some policy popular powerhouse winning all the debates would take getting all your news from the 538 podcast/Comcast trust fund baby bubble

It really pisses me off when Democrat supporters will rightfully complain about corporations influencing Republican politicians, but then ignore or downplay the same stuff when it comes to Democrats. When it's Republicans, it's corruption. When it's Democrats, it's "fundraising". Comcast is one of the more terrible companies here and people who supposedly know better are fine with the Democrats being in bed with them and other big media companies.

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