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Jeff_Garcia7 08/06/20 3:00:02 PM #53:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Also just a reminder that policy polling is basically useless for a number of reasons. Ah the good old conservative "polls are fake when they don't say I'm winning" <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:943068221] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Also just a reminder that policy polling is basically useless for a number of reasons.</quote>Ah the good old conservative "polls are fake when they don't say I'm winning" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 3:06:09 PM #54:	Jeff_Garcia7 posted... It's how Kerry and Clinton got elected. Barack Obama was not a safe pick to win over a conservative imaginary friends. He's credited to mass turnout of non-typical primary voters that got him over the hump. It was hilarious for the Democratic party to use the strategy of electing Hillary to win over Republicans in the suburbs. GOP voters have never hated anyone more. So are these highly paid strategists really that dumb or is the mask slipping off that their primary goal is to defeat lefty candidates. Hillary lost the election because she under performed in conservative areas compared to Obama, not heavily democratic ones. Even then she lost the election by like 30k votes in three swing states. Sorry but you don't get to talk about electability when progressives are literally the most politically inept group of people in the country. Stick to fighting for those D+30 House districts. Jeff_Garcia7 posted... Ah the good old conservative "polls are fake when they don't say I'm winning" If polling doesn't match up with voting at all it would quite literally be wrong, yeah. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943068488] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Jeff_Garcia7 posted... </cite> <quote>It's how Kerry and Clinton got elected. Barack Obama was not a safe pick to win over a conservative imaginary friends. He's credited to mass turnout of non-typical primary voters that got him over the hump. It was hilarious for the Democratic party to use the strategy of electing Hillary to win over Republicans in the suburbs. GOP voters have never hated anyone more. So are these highly paid strategists really that dumb or is the mask slipping off that their primary goal is to defeat lefty candidates.</quote> Hillary lost the election because she under performed in conservative areas compared to Obama, not heavily democratic ones. Even then she lost the election by like 30k votes in three swing states. Sorry but you don't get to talk about electability when progressives are literally the most politically inept group of people in the country. Stick to fighting for those D+30 House districts. Jeff_Garcia7 posted... </cite> <quote>Ah the good old conservative "polls are fake when they don't say I'm winning"</quote> If polling doesn't match up with voting at all it would quite literally be wrong, yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_Garcia7 08/06/20 3:27:15 PM #55:	Bernie = popular policies = high enthusiasm Biden = unpopular policies = low enthusiasm Majority of Dem primary voters: "We prioritize beating Trump over policy" Comcast: 5th place Biden is the only one that can beat Trump and you trust us. Jim Clyburn: 5th place Biden is the only one that can beat Trump and you trust me. Centrist Voltron+: Biden is the only one that can beat Trump and you trust us. Dem primary voters: Ok let's go vote against Trump, which means settling for Biden. If you ignore all facts and data pointing to this being how it went down.. and you instead believe that Biden won because people suddenly remembered they loved his policy the most and won all the debates.... then how do you explain Biden still having low enthusiasm? You can't because you're laughably wrong and possibly trolling. <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:943069303] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Bernie = popular policies = high enthusiasm Biden = unpopular policies = low enthusiasm Majority of Dem primary voters: "We prioritize beating Trump over policy" Comcast: 5th place Biden is the only one that can beat Trump and you trust us. Jim Clyburn: 5th place Biden is the only one that can beat Trump and you trust me. Centrist Voltron+: Biden is the only one that can beat Trump and you trust us. Dem primary voters: Ok let's go vote against Trump, which means settling for Biden. If you ignore all facts and data pointing to this being how it went down.. and you instead believe that Biden won because people suddenly remembered they loved his policy the most and won all the debates.... then how do you explain Biden still having low enthusiasm? You can't because you're laughably wrong and possibly trolling. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BENGHAZl 08/06/20 3:30:55 PM #56:	MaxEffingBemis posted... Im gonna challenge you on a lot of folks dont care for his politics when upon exit polls most people supported things like Medicare for all Polls also showed most people had no idea what Medicare for all was <cite>BENGHAZl posted [p:943069436] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>MaxEffingBemis posted... </cite> <quote>Im gonna challenge you on a lot of folks dont care for his politics when upon exit polls most people supported things like Medicare for all</quote> Polls also showed most people had no idea what Medicare for all was </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 3:34:54 PM #57:	Yeah man that insanely high Bernie enthusiasm that carried him to a loss in Iowa and a draw in NH! Really firing up the voters! The internet has fried your brain my dude. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943069584] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Yeah man that insanely high Bernie enthusiasm that carried him to a loss in Iowa and a draw in NH! Really firing up the voters! The internet has fried your brain my dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_Garcia7 08/06/20 3:43:15 PM #58:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Yeah man that insanely high Bernie enthusiasm that carried him to a loss in Iowa and a draw in NH! Really firing up the voters! The internet has fried your brain my dude. How did Biden, the guy you said was the most popular, perform in those 2 states or even the 3rd contest before he got the catalysts I described? According to your theory, voters vote for who they most agree with policy wise (laughable) so that means no one agreed with Biden in those first 3 states. Then magically the rest of the country did and it had nothing to do with the Comcast Clyburn special that occurred at that time by complete coincidence. Iowa, NH, and Nevada are just so radically different from all other sates and have more in common with each other eh? Comcast centrism has fried your brain. <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:943069898] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah man that insanely high Bernie enthusiasm that carried him to a loss in Iowa and a draw in NH! Really firing up the voters! The internet has fried your brain my dude.</quote>How did Biden, the guy you said was the most popular, perform in those 2 states or even the 3rd contest before he got the catalysts I described? According to your theory, voters vote for who they most agree with policy wise (laughable) so that means no one agreed with Biden in those first 3 states. Then magically the rest of the country did and it had nothing to do with the Comcast Clyburn special that occurred at that time by complete coincidence. Iowa, NH, and Nevada are just so radically different from all other sates and have more in common with each other eh? Comcast centrism has fried your brain. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 08/06/20 3:47:28 PM #59:	BENGHAZl posted... Polls also showed most people had no idea what Medicare for all was Which would also be the medias fault, considering Bernies proposal was an actual, publicly-available bill(which he and his surrogates discussed in detail a number of times) and they continued to present candidates like Buttigieg, Harris, and even Warren as supporting the exact same policy even after they put forward different ~~likely intentionally confusingly titled~~ proposals. Joe Biden also said he would veto it ~~unless it didnt increase taxes on the middle class, which lol.~~ <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:943070077] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>BENGHAZl posted... </cite> <quote>Polls also showed most people had no idea what Medicare for all was</quote>Which would also be the medias fault, considering Bernies proposal was an actual, publicly-available bill(which he and his surrogates discussed in detail a number of times) and they continued to present candidates like Buttigieg, Harris, and even Warren as supporting the exact same policy even after they put forward different likely intentionally confusingly titled proposals. Joe Biden also said he would veto it unless it didnt increase taxes on the middle class, which lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 08/06/20 3:51:04 PM #60:	I swear I see Broseph in every single topic someone makes about Bernie --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:943070241] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>I swear I see Broseph in every single topic someone makes about Bernie </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 08/06/20 3:55:45 PM #61:	MaxEffingBemis posted... I swear I see Broseph in every single topic someone makes about Bernie To be fair, I'm sure the real life Joseph Stalin would hate Bernie. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:943070414] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>MaxEffingBemis posted... </cite> <quote>I swear I see Broseph in every single topic someone makes about Bernie</quote> To be fair, I'm sure the real life Joseph Stalin would hate Bernie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 3:55:59 PM #62:	"comcast centrism" please log off the internet dude <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943070421] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>"comcast centrism" please log off the internet dude </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/06/20 3:56:08 PM #63:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Yeah man that insanely high Bernie enthusiasm that carried him to a loss in Iowa and a draw in NH! Really firing up the voters! The internet has fried your brain my dude. where did biden finish in iowa and nh? stopped his campaign dead in it's tracks didn't. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:943070429] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah man that insanely high Bernie enthusiasm that carried him to a loss in Iowa and a draw in NH! Really firing up the voters! The internet has fried your brain my dude.</quote> where did biden finish in iowa and nh? stopped his campaign dead in it's tracks didn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 08/06/20 3:56:15 PM #64:	To Trump? Nah. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:943070436] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>To Trump? Nah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_Garcia7 08/06/20 3:58:17 PM #65:	Broseph_Stalin posted... "comcast centrism" please log off the internet dude Everybody note this surrender and laugh <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:943070505] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>"comcast centrism" please log off the internet dude</quote>Everybody note this surrender and laugh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 4:01:29 PM #66:	surrender to what exactly I'm going to continue being right about everything while you continue to be wrong and make increasingly stupid excuses for it <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943070658] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>surrender to what exactly I'm going to continue being right about everything while you continue to be wrong and make increasingly stupid excuses for it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/06/20 4:06:56 PM #67:	I Like Toast posted... where did biden finish in iowa and nh? stopped his campaign dead in it's tracks didn't. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:943070887] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote> where did biden finish in iowa and nh? stopped his campaign dead in it's tracks didn't.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 4:08:24 PM #68:	Biden performing well where he was supposed to and Bernie under performing everywhere is not the argument for Bernie you think it is <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943070942] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Biden performing well where he was supposed to and Bernie under performing everywhere is not the argument for Bernie you think it is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/06/20 4:10:31 PM #69:	so if getting half the votes as bernie is performing well, by your own definition bernie was 2x as good as well. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:943071037] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>so if getting half the votes as bernie is performing well, by your own definition bernie was 2x as good as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_Garcia7 08/06/20 4:11:52 PM #70:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Biden performing well where he was supposed to and Bernie under performing everywhere is not the argument for Bernie you think it is Biden was expected to come in first or 2nd in the first 3 contests. He got annihilated until the Clyburn Comcast special. Bernie was picking up steam and crushed the field in Nevada after having to suffer through Comcast centrism say he could never win there because the Culinary workers don't want to have healthcare. <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:943071089] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Biden performing well where he was supposed to and Bernie under performing everywhere is not the argument for Bernie you think it is</quote>Biden was expected to come in first or 2nd in the first 3 contests. He got annihilated until the Clyburn Comcast special. Bernie was picking up steam and crushed the field in Nevada after having to suffer through Comcast centrism say he could never win there because the Culinary workers don't want to have healthcare. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 4:13:10 PM #71:	Biden is the one who got twice as many votes as Bernie lmao this primary absolutely destroyed your mental didn't it? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943071133] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Biden is the one who got twice as many votes as Bernie lmao this primary absolutely destroyed your mental didn't it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_Garcia7 08/06/20 4:15:03 PM #72:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Biden is the one who got twice as many votes as Bernie lmao this primary absolutely destroyed your mental didn't it? The argument we're having is how. And you're not doing well defending your theory, which I don't blame you for because there's absolutely nothing to support it. <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:943071207] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Biden is the one who got twice as many votes as Bernie lmao this primary absolutely destroyed your mental didn't it?</quote>The argument we're having is how. And you're not doing well defending your theory, which I don't blame you for because there's absolutely nothing to support it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 4:16:18 PM #73:	Jeff_Garcia7 posted... The argument we're having is how. He appealed to a much broader group of voters, this isn't rocket science. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943071254] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Jeff_Garcia7 posted... </cite> <quote>The argument we're having is how.</quote> He appealed to a much broader group of voters, this isn't rocket science. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stewman_Magoo 08/06/20 4:17:21 PM #74:	If Democrats were truly 'vote blue no matter who' it wouldn't have been a problem. --- PSN Stewman_Magoo <cite>Stewman_Magoo posted [p:943071292] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>If Democrats were truly 'vote blue no matter who' it wouldn't have been a problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 08/06/20 4:18:21 PM #75:	Bernie was a lot more than "bring universal health care to the US" He wanted to ban private health insurance, he wanted a federal jobs guarantee, the most prominent part of his rhetoric was his disdain toward rich people. Get a progressive candidate who doesn't dabble strongly with actual socialism (and is an actual member of the Democratic Party), they could do very will within the Democratic Party. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:943071329] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Bernie was a lot more than "bring universal health care to the US" He wanted to ban private health insurance, he wanted a federal jobs guarantee, the most prominent part of his rhetoric was his disdain toward rich people. Get a progressive candidate who doesn't dabble strongly with actual socialism (and is an actual member of the Democratic Party), they could do very will within the Democratic Party. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/06/20 4:19:44 PM #76:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Biden is the one who got twice as many votes as Bernie lmao please show your math how 45k * 2 = 23k please show your math how 76k * 2 = 25k --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:943071387] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Biden is the one who got twice as many votes as Bernie lmao</quote> please show your math how 45k * 2 = 23k please show your math how 76k * 2 = 25k </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 4:21:25 PM #77:	This is going to blow your mind but there are more than two states in the US. Most of the population is actually outside of Iowa and NH! <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943071466] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>This is going to blow your mind but there are more than two states in the US. Most of the population is actually outside of Iowa and NH! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
B-Factor 08/06/20 4:23:00 PM #78:	Imagine being such a Trump humper you think he beats Bernie despite a pandemic, recession, and losing nearly every poll. --- Meh. <cite>B-Factor posted [p:943071534] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Imagine being such a Trump humper you think he beats Bernie despite a pandemic, recession, and losing nearly every poll.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_Garcia7 08/06/20 4:24:11 PM #79:	Broseph_Stalin posted... He appealed to a much broader group of voters, this isn't rocket science. And you say that's because the majority of people prefer his policies, which the data and timeline doesn't support and makes no sense. What the data does say is that beating Trump was a priority over policy for most voters and that those same voters have a high trust in Comcast and dem party leaders. And that makes perfect sense with the timeline of when things flipped. It's why you have to keep falling so quickly back into "well most votes overall" and "lol brain fry" because there's nothing to support your theory and it becomes downright silly to even entertain once dissected. <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:943071577] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>He appealed to a much broader group of voters, this isn't rocket science.</quote>And you say that's because the majority of people prefer his policies, which the data and timeline doesn't support and makes no sense. What the data does say is that beating Trump was a priority over policy for most voters and that those same voters have a high trust in Comcast and dem party leaders. And that makes perfect sense with the timeline of when things flipped. It's why you have to keep falling so quickly back into "well most votes overall" and "lol brain fry" because there's nothing to support your theory and it becomes downright silly to even entertain once dissected. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BudDupree48 08/06/20 4:25:27 PM #80:	Bernard is poop --- BANG BANG STEELER GANG <cite>BudDupree48 posted [p:943071622] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Bernard is poop </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 4:27:30 PM #81:	Jeff_Garcia7 posted... And you say that's because the majority of people prefer his policies, which the data and timeline doesn't support and makes no sense. I can't believe we're two pages into this argument because you don't understand why policy polling is flawed. Just a tip, electability and being what voters want are the same exact thing. Jeff_Garcia7 posted... It's why you have to keep falling so quickly back into "well most votes overall" LMAO if only you had the self-awareness to understand what you're saying <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943071710] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Jeff_Garcia7 posted... </cite> <quote>And you say that's because the majority of people prefer his policies, which the data and timeline doesn't support and makes no sense.</quote> I can't believe we're two pages into this argument because you don't understand why policy polling is flawed. Just a tip, electability and being what voters want are the same exact thing. Jeff_Garcia7 posted... </cite> <quote>It's why you have to keep falling so quickly back into "well most votes overall"</quote> LMAO if only you had the self-awareness to understand what you're saying </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/06/20 4:28:27 PM #82:	Broseph_Stalin posted... This is going to blow your mind but there are more than two states in the US. Most of the population is actually outside of Iowa and NH! Broseph_Stalin posted... Yeah man that insanely high Bernie enthusiasm that carried him to a loss in Iowa and a draw in NH! I Like Toast posted... where did biden finish in iowa and nh? stopped his campaign dead in it's tracks didn't. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:943071753] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>This is going to blow your mind but there are more than two states in the US. Most of the population is actually outside of Iowa and NH!</quote> Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah man that insanely high Bernie enthusiasm that carried him to a loss in Iowa and a draw in NH!</quote> I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote> where did biden finish in iowa and nh? stopped his campaign dead in it's tracks didn't.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 4:29:21 PM #83:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Biden performing well where he was supposed to and Bernie under performing everywhere is not the argument for Bernie you think it is <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943071798] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Biden performing well where he was supposed to and Bernie under performing everywhere is not the argument for Bernie you think it is</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/06/20 4:29:48 PM #84:	I Like Toast posted... so if getting half the votes as bernie is performing well, by your own definition bernie was 2x as good as well. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:943071823] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>so if getting half the votes as bernie is performing well, by your own definition bernie was 2x as good as well.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 4:32:28 PM #85:	there are more than two states <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943071949] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>there are more than two states </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_Garcia7 08/06/20 4:38:49 PM #86:	Broseph_Stalin posted... I can't believe we're two pages into this argument because you don't understand why policy polling is flawed. Fine. Let's ignore policy polling completely. You say voters vote for who they most agree with on policy. So Iowa, NH, and Nevada are uniquely composed of people that reject Biden's policy but the rest of country doesn't and the Comcast Clyburn special happening at the same time that voters flipped is all just a coincidence? You can even watch the mail in votes in California flip from Bernie to Biden depending on the date they were mailed that lines up with when the Comcast coverage of Biden endorsements rolled in. I've never seen someone willing to die on the hill of Americans being principled policy first based voters. You'd be laughed out of any room if you said that out loud. Just like you're getting laughed out of gamefaqs.gamespot.com <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:943072256] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>I can't believe we're two pages into this argument because you don't understand why policy polling is flawed.</quote>Fine. Let's ignore policy polling completely. You say voters vote for who they most agree with on policy. So Iowa, NH, and Nevada are uniquely composed of people that reject Biden's policy but the rest of country doesn't and the Comcast Clyburn special happening at the same time that voters flipped is all just a coincidence? You can even watch the mail in votes in California flip from Bernie to Biden depending on the date they were mailed that lines up with when the Comcast coverage of Biden endorsements rolled in. I've never seen someone willing to die on the hill of Americans being principled policy first based voters. You'd be laughed out of any room if you said that out loud. Just like you're getting laughed out of gamefaqs.gamespot.com </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 4:44:36 PM #87:	Oh I never said Bernie wins outside of policy, he loses there as well. He's incredibly unlikable compared to Biden, and I don't deny that lots of people vote based on that. And yes states like Iowa and NH don't always vote in line with the rest of the country. They are 2 small states out of 50. Also the media was declaring Biden's campaign dead before SC, your favoritism lie is just grasping for straws. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943072517] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Oh I never said Bernie wins outside of policy, he loses there as well. He's incredibly unlikable compared to Biden, and I don't deny that lots of people vote based on that. And yes states like Iowa and NH don't always vote in line with the rest of the country. They are 2 small states out of 50. Also the media was declaring Biden's campaign dead before SC, your favoritism lie is just grasping for straws. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/06/20 4:46:43 PM #88:	Broseph_Stalin posted... there are more than two states --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all https://mikelikesthis.net the blog no one asked for is back <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:943072624] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>there are more than two states</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 08/06/20 4:49:20 PM #89:	Toast two braincells are working over time to deduce who continued to under perform in the primary but I don't think they have it in them <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:943072749] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Toast two braincells are working over time to deduce who continued to under perform in the primary but I don't think they have it in them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 08/06/20 4:49:21 PM #90:	You think people would have noticed that Trump is giving free shit away and it's keeping the economy up. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:943072751] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>You think people would have noticed that Trump is giving free shit away and it's keeping the economy up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BudDupree48 08/06/20 4:50:26 PM #91:	whats the difference between my morning dump and Bernard Sanders? My dumps stay down when flushed --- BANG BANG STEELER GANG <cite>BudDupree48 posted [p:943072796] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>whats the difference between my morning dump and Bernard Sanders? My dumps stay down when flushed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66 08/06/20 4:50:31 PM #92:	Webmaster4531 posted... You think people would have noticed that Trump is giving free shit away and it's keeping the economy up. The GDP fell 33% ? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdR2Iktffaw The day Capitalism was humiliated :) <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:943072803] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>You think people would have noticed that Trump is giving free shit away and it's keeping the economy up.</quote> The GDP fell 33% ? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOrgyPorgy 08/06/20 4:51:11 PM #93:	should've nominated Martin O'Malley --- Radiohead <cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted [p:943072833] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>should've nominated Martin O'Malley </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 08/06/20 5:03:33 PM #94:	JBaLLEN66 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... You think people would have noticed that Trump is giving free shit away and it's keeping the economy up. The GDP fell 33%? Imagine what it would be like if there was no $1200 stimulus and +$600 unemployment benefits. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:943073455] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>JBaLLEN66 posted...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite><quote>You think people would have noticed that Trump is giving free shit away and it's keeping the economy up.</quote>The GDP fell 33%?</quote>Imagine what it would be like if there was no $1200 stimulus and +$600 unemployment benefits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff_Garcia7 08/06/20 5:04:30 PM #95:	And Nevada, which has nothing in common with Iowa and NH. So far, according to Broseph: policy polls are fake, exit polls are fake, likability polls are fake. For future ref and to not waste anymore time, what else do you believe is fake? Moon landing? Round Earth? Vaccines? <cite>Jeff_Garcia7 posted [p:943073493] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>And Nevada, which has nothing in common with Iowa and NH. So far, according to Broseph: policy polls are fake, exit polls are fake, likability polls are fake. For future ref and to not waste anymore time, what else do you believe is fake? Moon landing? Round Earth? Vaccines? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JBaLLEN66 08/06/20 5:06:19 PM #96:	Webmaster4531 posted... Imagine what it would be like if there was no $1200 stimulus and +$600 unemployment benefits. do you not know how the government works? This is why I hate dealing with the alt right because they live in their own little world and resort to ambiguous claims and straw mans. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdR2Iktffaw The day Capitalism was humiliated :) <cite>JBaLLEN66 posted [p:943073568] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Imagine what it would be like if there was no $1200 stimulus and +$600 unemployment benefits.</quote> do you not know how the government works? This is why I hate dealing with the alt right because they live in their own little world and resort to ambiguous claims and straw mans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 08/06/20 5:09:44 PM #97:	JBaLLEN66 posted... do you not know how the government works? This is why I hate dealing with the alt right because they live in their own little world and resort to ambiguous claims and straw mans. What point do you think I'm trying to convey? --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:943073741] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>JBaLLEN66 posted...</cite> <quote>do you not know how the government works? This is why I hate dealing with the alt right because they live in their own little world and resort to ambiguous claims and straw mans.</quote>What point do you think I'm trying to convey?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 08/06/20 11:45:28 PM #98:	JBaLLEN66 posted... how will he win Trump has already won. 2016 was an eight year election. Zikten posted... Biden has already done better in the polls than Hillary did. and he's decimating Trump "Polls don't mean shit" is the number one thing 2016 proved. Read the mood. Biden is barely speaking, and when he does, he makes a fool of himself. We don't even have to go back more than one single day to find an instance of Biden making a complete fool of himself. I don't like Trump. I do not like Trump. I don't like Trump, or want Trump to be President. But Trump has a higher skill level and persuasion level. And you can laugh all you want, but he's already the fucking President because of this. People need to get real. <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:943088432] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>JBaLLEN66 posted... </cite> <quote>how will he win</quote>Trump has already won. 2016 was an eight year election. Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>Biden has already done better in the polls than Hillary did. and he's decimating Trump</quote>"Polls don't mean shit" is the number one thing 2016 proved. Read the mood. Biden is barely speaking, and when he does, he makes a fool of himself. We don't even have to go back more than one single day to find an instance of Biden making a complete fool of himself. I don't like Trump. I do not like Trump. I don't like Trump, or want Trump to be President. But Trump has a higher skill level and persuasion level. And you can laugh all you want, but he's already the fucking President because of this. People need to get real. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 08/06/20 11:55:28 PM #100:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Also just a reminder that policy polling is basically useless for a number of reasons. If people wanted progressive policies they would vote for progressive candidates. Exit polls showed that for many people whether a candidate "could beat Trump" was a higher priority than their policy objectives. There are certainly some problems with "policy polling" (you can get wildly different answers depending on how you phrase the question), but the idea that people are completely policy driven when selecting candidates is untrue. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:943088756] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Also just a reminder that policy polling is basically useless for a number of reasons. If people wanted progressive policies they would vote for progressive candidates.</quote> Exit polls showed that for many people whether a candidate "could beat Trump" was a higher priority than their policy objectives. There are certainly some problems with "policy polling" (you can get wildly different answers depending on how you phrase the question), but the idea that people are completely policy driven when selecting candidates is untrue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThunderTrain 08/07/20 12:09:19 AM #102:	Spooking posted... Thankfully, Sanders can now retire to one of his three homes. Is this an insult? lol --- Without this nobody reads the last line of a post Look at all these slave masters posing on your dollar <cite>ThunderTrain posted [p:943089165] in Sanders wo... [t:78896114]...</cite> <quote>Spooking posted... </cite> <quote>Thankfully, Sanders can now retire to one of his three homes.</quote> Is this an insult? lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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