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Revelation34
07/13/20 3:30:24 PM
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https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-07-10/lady-a-name-lawsuit-anita-white-response

This is ironic since they tried to fight racism by being racist.
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Zeus
07/13/20 3:38:50 PM
#2:


Geez, the angry mob bitches at them to change their name and now that same angry mob bitches at them for changing it.

(I was going to say "people" but I guess I can't use that word in this context. I don't know how the fuck people manage to be constantly-PC without inadvertently offending. The game seems set up so anybody would lose unless they had immunity... but maybe that's the point of it? The ridiculous number of possible connotations ensures that micro-transgressions are unavoidable thus always giving them something to point at so as to maintain their power. )

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AC_Dragonfire
07/13/20 7:05:43 PM
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Another anti-white topic. yay
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ParanoidObsessive
07/13/20 7:32:59 PM
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Zeus posted...
Geez, the angry mob bitches at them to change their name and now that same angry mob bitches at them for changing it.

It's almost like giving in to psychological pressure only encourages people to use more psychological pressure on you, because now they know you can be bullied into doing anything they want you to.
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GanonsSpirit
07/13/20 7:35:36 PM
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Imagine trying to defend a group suing a woman to use her name.
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Clench281
07/13/20 8:01:05 PM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
Imagine trying to defend a group suing a woman to use her name.


More like, group files a lawsuit simply stating they should continue to be able to use a trademark that they own and have owned for ten years.

It seems that Anita White never got a trademark herself, and never contested Lady Antebellum's use of "Lady A." She was relatively unknown (getting 15 likes per Instagram post, no Wikipedia page) until a month ago when this name dispute started.

Lady Antebellum has an argument for trademark ownership and they are willing to coexist with the name, even if they legally don't have to. Basically this smells like she just wants to try to make a quick buck. Initially she was fine sharing their name and then shot out the demand for $10 million.

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helIy
07/13/20 8:06:15 PM
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so, she had originally agreed to let them use the name, the name they own the rights to, but then she up and sued them for 10 million to use the name

so they countersued.

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Revelation34
07/13/20 8:07:04 PM
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Yes they totally own something somebody was using before they did.
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helIy
07/13/20 8:07:43 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Yes they totally own something somebody was using before they did.
considering they own the copyright to it,

yes, they do

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Revelation34
07/13/20 8:10:14 PM
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helIy posted...

considering they own the copyright to it,

yes, they do


You can't own a copyright that somebody was using before you used it. Copyright is automatically owned to whoever had it first.
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Zeus
07/13/20 8:10:29 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
It's almost like giving in to psychological pressure only encourages people to use more psychological pressure on you, because now they know you can be bullied into doing anything they want you to.

Can't wait to see what new outrage unfolds after the Redskins change their name.

Clench281 posted...
More like, group files a lawsuit simply stating they should continue to be able to use a trademark that they own and have owned for ten years.

It seems that Anita White never got a trademark herself, and never contested Lady Antebellum's use of "Lady A." She was relatively unknown (getting 15 likes per Instagram post, no Wikipedia page) until a month ago when this name dispute started.

Lady Antebellum has an argument for trademark ownership and they are willing to coexist with the name, even if they legally don't have to. Basically this smells like she just wants to try to make a quick buck. Initially she was fine sharing their name and then shot out the demand for $10 million.

So basically it's the equivalent of a copyright troll except without even having the copyright or any real ownership?

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helIy
07/13/20 8:11:17 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
You can't own a copyright that somebody was using before you used it. Copyright is automatically owned to whoever had it first.

tell that to the copyright for the name that they were approved to own

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Revelation34
07/13/20 8:13:07 PM
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helIy posted...


tell that to the copyright for the name that they were approved to own


So something they don't actually own then.
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Clench281
07/13/20 8:33:41 PM
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Y'all are talking about copyright but the lawsuits are over a trademark

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Smarkil
07/13/20 8:34:25 PM
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Clench281 posted...
More like, group files a lawsuit simply stating they should continue to be able to use a trademark that they own and have owned for ten years.

It seems that Anita White never got a trademark herself, and never contested Lady Antebellum's use of "Lady A." She was relatively unknown (getting 15 likes per Instagram post, no Wikipedia page) until a month ago when this name dispute started.

Lady Antebellum has an argument for trademark ownership and they are willing to coexist with the name, even if they legally don't have to. Basically this smells like she just wants to try to make a quick buck. Initially she was fine sharing their name and then shot out the demand for $10 million.

You can pretty easily challenge a trademark claim even if the period for trademark dispute has passed. You just have to be able to prove you've been doing business under the trademark prior to their purported use of it. This Anita chick has allegedly been going under Lady A for 20 some odd years.

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Clench281
07/13/20 8:38:47 PM
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I'm not going to pretend that I'm an expert in IP law but I've seen others explain that failure to defend a trademark can lead to loss of exclusive rights, and that's what's being argued by lady Antebellum

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Revelation34
07/13/20 8:45:52 PM
#17:


Clench281 posted...
I'm not going to pretend that I'm an expert in IP law but I've seen others explain that failure to defend a trademark can lead to loss of exclusive rights, and that's what's being argued by lady Antebellum


It should be the reverse since they never defended it.
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WhiskeyDisk
07/13/20 8:54:07 PM
#18:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
It's almost like giving in to psychological pressure only encourages people to use more psychological pressure on you, because now they know you can be bullied into doing anything they want you to.

The worst part is that the loudest voices doing the most bitching are guaranteed to be people that would literally never buy your product in the first place, but if you don't bend the knee, there will be hell to pay.

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Clench281
07/13/20 8:55:06 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
It should be the reverse since they never defended it.

Well, lady Antebellum did register it. And while it's entirely feasible lady Antebellum never was aware of Anita White, the converse would be hard to believe. The point is Anita White neglected to defend the widespread use of a trademark. Essentially, if she cared, she would have known and done something about it. Again, that's what I perceive is the argument being made.

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Revelation34
07/13/20 8:57:37 PM
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Clench281 posted...


Well, lady Antebellum did register it. And while it's entirely feasible lady Antebellum never was aware of Anita White, the converse would be hard to believe. The point is Anita White neglected to defend the widespread use of a trademark. Essentially, if she cared, she would have known and done something about it. Again, that's what I perceive is the argument being made.


I meant she should use that argument against them.
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Zeus
07/13/20 9:03:37 PM
#21:


Clench281 posted...
I'm not going to pretend that I'm an expert in IP law but I've seen others explain that failure to defend a trademark can lead to loss of exclusive rights, and that's what's being argued by lady Antebellum

Companies tend to be pretty litigious over TMs because of this, tbh. I remember seeing a C&D letter from a beer company to a guy who used part of their thing as a tribute talking about the reasoning.

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LinkPizza
07/13/20 9:29:20 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Basically this smells like she just wants to try to make a quick buck. Initially she was fine sharing their name and then shot out the demand for $10 million.

Probably because people are having a harder time finding her stuff... At least, thats what it sounds like...
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Smarkil
07/13/20 10:15:44 PM
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Clench281 posted...
I'm not going to pretend that I'm an expert in IP law but I've seen others explain that failure to defend a trademark can lead to loss of exclusive rights, and that's what's being argued by lady Antebellum

Im gonna pretend to be an expert on IP law

The challenge is there to make it easier for folks with a potential claim to a trademark to make it happen but its not the only way to do it. The assumption that someone would have to watch the whatever trademark challenge claims like a hawk would be a ridiculous ask of regular individuals or businesses that don't have an attorney on hand.

That being said, from what I understand her claim to be able to get any sort of restitution for their using her alleged name is going to be much more difficult to prove. They seem to have acted in good faith by filing the trademark. I would wager at best, if she does get the trademark claim, she won't get anything else from it in lost revenue. Especially because she's obviously the smaller 'brand'.

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Lokarin
07/13/20 10:19:47 PM
#24:


Can't we just leave the Antebellum era in the past!!!

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Fierce_Deity_08
07/14/20 8:07:16 PM
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Their fault for changing their name unnecessarily in the first place.

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Revelation34
07/21/20 8:54:00 PM
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The other thread reminded me to bump this.
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Zeus
07/21/20 9:48:25 PM
#27:


LinkPizza posted...
Probably because people are having a harder time finding her stuff... At least, thats what it sounds like...

....people can't find her stuff because she's not popular. And her stage name didn't exactly help her out since she's not big enough to rock something that generic.

If anything, she should be thanking them. More people now know she exists than throughout her entire "career". She got the equivalent of a free $10m in publicity.

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LinkPizza
07/21/20 10:01:15 PM
#28:


Zeus posted...
....people can't find her stuff because she's not popular. And her stage name didn't exactly help her out since she's not big enough to rock something that generic.

Probably. Though it would be easier if a popular band doesnt have the same name...

Zeus posted...
If anything, she should be thanking them. More people now know she exists than throughout her entire "career". She got the equivalent of a free $10m in publicity.

More people may know her. But that wont mean much if they dont listen to her music. And if someone uses the same name, it could still end up being hard to find her songs unless you know what the songs name is... Possibly...
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Revelation34
07/21/20 11:07:57 PM
#29:


Zeus posted...


....people can't find her stuff because she's not popular. And her stage name didn't exactly help her out since she's not big enough to rock something that generic.

If anything, she should be thanking them. More people now know she exists than throughout her entire "career". She got the equivalent of a free $10m in publicity.


Where is she going to get 10 million from?
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/22/20 4:17:04 AM
#30:


Zeus posted...
....people can't find her stuff because she's not popular. And her stage name didn't exactly help her out since she's not big enough to rock something that generic.
This sounds so much funnier coming from you. An unpopular troll trying to rock the name of a fictional character bigger than him.

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Sarcasthma
07/22/20 4:56:44 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Zeus posted...
This sounds so much funnier coming from you. An unpopular troll trying to rock the name of a fictional character bigger than him.
Fucking got him.

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Zeus
07/22/20 4:58:43 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Where is she going to get 10 million from?


Thankfully, the band isn't requesting any money for the publicity. They're not greedy fucks, unlike an artist who tried to copyright troll a decade after they filed the trademark which was years after they'd been using it to reference themselves. Actually, they probably have as much history with the name as the artist who is trying to extort them except, you know, people actually know who they are.

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sodium-chloride
07/22/20 7:42:00 AM
#33:


FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Zeus posted...
This sounds so much funnier coming from you. An unpopular troll trying to rock the name of a fictional character bigger than him.

Lmao
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Revelation34
07/23/20 9:01:45 PM
#34:


Zeus posted...


Thankfully, the band isn't requesting any money for the publicity. They're not greedy fucks, unlike an artist who tried to copyright troll a decade after they filed the trademark which was years after they'd been using it to reference themselves. Actually, they probably have as much history with the name as the artist who is trying to extort them except, you know, people actually know who they are.


If this post was true then they would have been actually using that name already.
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WhiskeyDisk
07/23/20 9:10:55 PM
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https://youtu.be/Ev373c7wSRg

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Revelation34
07/24/20 3:41:12 PM
#37:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
https://youtu.be/Ev373c7wSRg


Wat.
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/24/20 4:33:04 PM
#38:


Sarcasthma posted...
Fucking got him.

sodium-chloride posted...
Lmao
Lol. Its easy when he doesnt think before posting. Unless he gets called out hes gonna keep buying his own bs. He prolly believes he is Zeus an thats just dangerous for everybody.

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Revelation34
07/24/20 7:16:43 PM
#39:


FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...


Lol. Its easy when he doesnt think before posting. Unless he gets called out hes gonna keep buying his own bs. He prolly believes he is Zeus an thats just dangerous for everybody.


It is?
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/24/20 7:27:58 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
It is?
Ya. Then weve gotta hear it.

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Wanded
07/24/20 9:14:41 PM
#41:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
https://youtu.be/Ev373c7wSRg
It's funny because it's true

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Lokarin
07/25/20 12:38:33 AM
#42:


SJWs: "White people need to SHUT UP!!"

3 months later

SJWs: "White silence is violence!!"

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TheWitchMorgana
07/25/20 12:42:11 AM
#43:


Lokarin posted...
SJWs: "White people need to SHUT UP!!"

3 months later

SJWs: "White silence is violence!!"

it's past your bedtime grandpa

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Lokarin
07/25/20 12:42:48 AM
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TheWitchMorgana posted...
it's past your bedtime grandpa

Dang kids aren't looking at the photos I took

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Megnetto
07/25/20 12:46:33 AM
#45:


AC_Dragonfire posted...
Another anti-white topic. yay
Anti white seems pro humanity in light of recent events.

if you want people to be pro white than tell white people to clean up their act.

history is full of examples
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PKMNsony
07/25/20 12:48:42 AM
#46:


Megnetto posted...
Anti white seems pro humanity in light of recent events.

if you want people to be pro white than tell white people to clean up their act.

history is full of examples
Only white people huh? Blinders over here...
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ClarkDuke
07/25/20 12:51:00 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Zeus posted...
This sounds so much funnier coming from you. An unpopular troll trying to rock the name of a fictional character bigger than him.
what a bullseye, ok?

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Megnetto
07/25/20 12:55:47 AM
#48:


PKMNsony posted...
Only white people huh? Blinders over here...
Never said that, thanks for demonstrating white fragility though
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PKMNsony
07/25/20 1:00:10 AM
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Megnetto posted...
Never said that, thanks for demonstrating white fragility though
Never said you did, nice try though. Was referring to "if you want people to be pro white than tell white people to clean up their act."
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BUMPED2002
07/25/20 1:58:02 AM
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History being repeated so it ain't new.

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Revelation34
07/25/20 8:30:14 PM
#51:


Megnetto posted...

Anti white seems pro humanity in light of recent events.

if you want people to be pro white than tell white people to clean up their act.

history is full of examples


I bet you're white.
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