Board 8 > Smash Bros competitive community is getting #MeToo'd

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MysticBrohan
07/03/20 2:15:08 PM
#151:


still gonna play melee til the day i drop

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KamikazePotato
07/03/20 2:17:47 PM
#152:


I wake up and now stuff is coming out against Zero

Great

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pepper2012
07/03/20 5:33:05 PM
#153:


So this is the smash community people have been defending ?

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Airship_Canon
07/03/20 7:37:52 PM
#154:


One of the "accusations" against Zero basically is that he had a Rule 34/NSFW/18+ channel on his discord.
Oh no. How horrible.

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StealThisSheen
07/03/20 7:38:55 PM
#155:


Isn't one of the accusations also that he was hitting on a 14 year old when he was 19

EDIT: Seems really weird to focus on the discord thing when that accusation is a thing and apparently has proof.

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Mr Lasastryke
07/03/20 7:43:35 PM
#156:


lol BT got warned for his "having sex with girls who are only slightly underage is totally fine!" post.

isn't he also the guy who was bashing kana little sister for being a "pedo game"?

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theawesomestevr
07/03/20 7:50:17 PM
#157:


StealThisSheen posted...
Isn't one of the accusations also that he was hitting on a 14 year old when he was 19

Yeah, while the initial stuff that was said about him seemed silly, the allegations against him regarding that are definitely serious, and pretty messed up if true.

StealThisSheen posted...
and apparently has proof.

The evidence provided doesn't really conclusively prove anything, but the allegations surrounding it are much worse.
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HanOfTheNekos
07/03/20 7:58:02 PM
#158:


theawesomestevr posted...
Yeah, while the initial stuff that was said about him seemed silly, the allegations against him regarding that are definitely serious, and pretty messed up if true.

The evidence provided doesn't really conclusively prove anything, but the allegations surrounding it are much worse.

What's the deets?

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StealThisSheen
07/03/20 8:08:07 PM
#159:


Also, it sounds like the discord thing is less "he has a nsfw channel on his discord" and more "He runs hentai contests with his fans to win seats in his Smash lobbies and most of his fans are children"

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pepper2012
07/03/20 8:19:08 PM
#160:


StealThisSheen posted...
He runs hentai contests

That's all the evidence needed

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StealThisSheen
07/03/20 8:26:19 PM
#161:


I may be mixing up different allegations.

It appears the rule 34 discord channel thing wasn't an "allegation" in itself, it was just in response to Zero's response to an earlier allegation. I guess an earlier allegation said he put hentai up on the "big screen" in a Smash house/showed it to a minor more than once, and his response was "Yes I like hentai but I'd never view it around others" and somebody apparently went "Dude you have a channel for it on your public discord" in response.

The "hentai contests" thing appears to be something different.

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HanOfTheNekos
07/03/20 8:28:23 PM
#162:


tbf, Shine ran hentai/Kobe contests for years

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StealThisSheen
07/03/20 8:31:13 PM
#163:


Yeah, those aren't the big one.

The big allegation is the "hit on 14 year old when 19" thing, but I'm personally not too sure on the details myself because the topic I saw it in is basically full of people shouting down any allegations whatsoever.

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StealThisSheen
07/03/20 8:42:56 PM
#164:


https://tinyurl.com/y759njbm

Here's some details on the 14 year old thing

EDIT: Turns out it's just an analysis of the screenshots, since people called them fake. I guess the actual allegations are much bigger?

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StealThisSheen
07/03/20 11:04:58 PM
#165:


So ZeRo basically outright admitted it, though the admission/apology basically turned into a "I'm like this because of my tough life" pity party a bit, and he says he didn't know the age of the 14 year old, which is questionable.

And, of course, people moved on from "These screenshots are fake, it never happened" to "okay but really it's not bad anyway"

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KamikazePotato
07/03/20 11:44:31 PM
#166:


Zero's response to the allegations was "Half of it is true. The other half I'm not going to comment on because if it's true (which it probably is) it would make me look even worse. Also I had a traumatic childhood, please understand." And people are falling for it hook line and sinker.

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red13n
07/03/20 11:48:02 PM
#167:


The Smash community loves to live in complete denial. This is not surprising.

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WazzupGenius00
07/03/20 11:49:04 PM
#168:


There's a reason his fanbase is mostly children, their brains aren't fully developed yet and can't realize that he is constantly playing the victim

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_stingers_
07/03/20 11:53:22 PM
#169:


Zero is very narcissistic, I wouldn't expect too much else out of him. All of my personal interactions with him have almost entirely revolved around him talking about himself.
All things considered I think the 'charges' levied against him are very minor compared to what most of the other big stories are recently, but I think he's being caught in the crossfire of everything going on so any charges at all equate to 'cancelling' at this point so he's handling it very poorly. Not that I'd expect him to handle it any better under different circumstances.

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KamikazePotato
07/03/20 11:57:33 PM
#170:


_stingers_ posted...
All things considered I think the 'charges' levied against him are very minor compared to what most of the other big stories are recently, but I think he's being caught in the crossfire of everything going on so any charges at all equate to 'cancelling' at this point so he's handling it very poorly.

From what I've heard the only reason the first accuser even called attention to him is because he posted this super holier-than-thou twitlonger acting like he was squeaky clean and above all the current allegations, and it reeeeally didn't sit well with her.

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_stingers_
07/04/20 12:04:02 AM
#171:


That doesn't surprise me one bit. Lol

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swordz9
07/04/20 12:06:04 AM
#172:


Goddamn how many of these guys are there. Also you know its a huge deal when google search for Smash Bros brings up allegation stuff before even Wikipedia or Amazon appear as results
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CoolCly
07/04/20 12:30:52 AM
#173:


I didn't think the Zero allegations were that serious, and the accusers were even saying they didn't want him cancelled, they just wanted this kind of behaviour to be talked about.

But his responses make me not trust him at all. It's trickle truthing - he's making statements to fit the current facts he thinks people know about him instead of being upfront and honest about everything.

I expect there'll be more Zero reveals to come tbh.

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PostContestUlti
07/04/20 12:42:16 AM
#174:


Zero comes across as an awkward, but likeable neckbeard. Like if he was in your friend group, he's be the guy that literally everyone likes. I very, very much doubt he was trying to sleep with a 14 year old.

That said, he should have known better: https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/chile

It's not like he immigrated from a country where this behavior, even as a joke, is in any way okay.

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StealThisSheen
07/04/20 1:13:32 AM
#175:


Actually, turns out the "I didn't know how old she was" is definitely a lie.

https://twitter.com/Heavyluigi64/status/1279234894644654081

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CoolCly
07/04/20 1:16:05 AM
#176:


PostContestUlti posted...
Zero comes across as an awkward, but likeable neckbeard. Like if he was in your friend group, he's be the guy that literally everyone likes. I very, very much doubt he was trying to sleep with a 14 year old.


What does purely superficial things like how he comes across and people liking him have to do with what he would do?

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PostContestUlti
07/04/20 1:36:35 AM
#177:


Because I have zero experience with "the guy everyone likes" being a weirdo.

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StealThisSheen
07/04/20 1:42:27 AM
#178:


PostContestUlti posted...
Because I have zero experience with "the guy everyone likes" being a weirdo.

It's fair enough to draw impressions on people based on how they seem compared to people they remind you of, your own experiences, and so on.

But in this case there's direct evidence that she told him straight up that she was 14 and he continued to flirt with her and make sexual comments, so it does go into super creepy/weirdo land.

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PostContestUlti
07/04/20 1:43:54 AM
#179:


Gross.

I feel sick ever sticking up for these people. I really do. The Brawl folks were right all along.

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red13n
07/04/20 3:29:02 AM
#180:


StealThisSheen posted...
Actually, turns out the "I didn't know how old she was" is definitely a lie.

https://twitter.com/Heavyluigi64/status/1279234894644654081

This thread is full of "It wasn't bad in comparison so its ok" posts and that is awful.

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KamikazePotato
07/04/20 4:00:23 AM
#181:


If Zero had immediately owned up to EVERYTHING in a way that wasn't manipulative as shit, I would have given him tentative support as an example of someone who can hopefully change for the better. Instead, he:

  1. Made a long post about how the community needs to improve ect. ect. while acting like he never did anything wrong
  2. Got called out, responded by not addressing any of the serious concerns and deflecting
  3. Lied multiple times in the response
  4. Got called out AGAIN, proceeded to make the entire thing about his personal trauma to engender sympathy
  5. 'Banned himself' from Smash events whatever the fuck that means
Just a bunch of textbook examples of a guy who regrets nothing except that he got caught, and is attempting to gaslight those who trusted him into continuing to trust him. His actions aren't as bad as outright monsters like Cinnpie and D1, but they were still bad, and he's done nothing to make up for it.

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MZero
07/04/20 4:18:46 AM
#182:


all the gamers in this topic saying gamers suck is hilarious

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GTM
07/04/20 4:26:09 AM
#183:


As a male I think men suck

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StartTheMachine
07/04/20 5:37:35 AM
#184:


I can't be the only one who went to a high school where 18 year old seniors were dating 14 year old freshman, can I? I can think of 3 different open, very public relationships like this that were happening my freshman year, all of course with the guys being the seniors and the girls being freshman. Being a bit weirded out by this was one of the first things I remember thinking about the dating scene in my school.

But also my stepsister was 16 and dating a 24 year old man (with my stepdad's consent) so that was always way creepier to me.

I'm glad to see standards are changing.

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ninkendo
07/04/20 5:53:33 AM
#185:


I never really kept up on with who was dating who in high school I just stuck to my small group of friends and played melee every weekend

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ninkendo
07/04/20 5:56:19 AM
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MZero
07/04/20 6:25:48 AM
#187:


StartTheMachine posted...
I can't be the only one who went to a high school where 18 year old seniors were dating 14 year old freshman, can I? I can think of 3 different open, very public relationships like this that were happening my freshman year, all of course with the guys being the seniors and the girls being freshman.

It happened (including senior girls with freshman guys) at my school, too. I never thought it was weird cause we were all in the same school. I assume most of the time the freshman is turning 15 soon if the senior is already 18, but I briefly dated a 14 year old sophomore when I was an 18 year old senior (her birthday was 10 days after mine and she skipped a grade). This never came up until I wished her a happy 16th birthday

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WazzupGenius00
07/04/20 10:38:45 AM
#188:


After people pointed out more inconsistencies and lies in what Zero said he has now posted yet another twitlonger post, this one coming clean. Yet the original accuser says he STILL has not told the full truth and will be presenting more information soon. The guy is a pathological liar.
https://twitter.com/jisuartist/status/1279375209653403653?s=21

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skullbone
07/04/20 10:55:33 AM
#189:


Wow Nairo and ZeRo gone from the Smash community within a few days. Good riddance to both but they were the two biggest content creators I think.

Who is the next biggest at this point? Dabuz? Samsora? MKLeo doesn't really do much content online from what I can tell

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HanOfTheNekos
07/04/20 11:16:03 AM
#190:


He said the claims were true, but there weren't any graphic pictures. What's next, dick pics?

She releases those, he's like "it's true, I sent her pics, but that's all, I swear" then she's like nuh-uh here's videos of him touching me inappropriately and we just repeat ad nauseum?

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StartTheMachine
07/04/20 12:10:32 PM
#191:


Zero went from "how could these people do things so horrible?" to "I'm so sorry for doing things so horrible" real fast.

Also semi-relevant: TIL the age of consent in Japan is 13. What the fuck, Japan.

E: https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-age-of-consent-so-low-in-Japan

Okay so it's a bit more complicated.

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Nintendogs
07/04/20 12:13:19 PM
#192:


StartTheMachine posted...
I can't be the only one who went to a high school where 18 year old seniors were dating 14 year old freshman, can I? I can think of 3 different open, very public relationships like this that were happening my freshman year, all of course with the guys being the seniors and the girls being freshman. Being a bit weirded out by this was one of the first things I remember thinking about the dating scene in my school.

But also my stepsister was 16 and dating a 24 year old man (with my stepdad's consent) so that was always way creepier to me.

I'm glad to see standards are changing.
You're gonna be shocked to know that stuff like this has happened throughout human history.
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greengravy294
07/04/20 1:04:38 PM
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PrinceOfKoopas
07/04/20 1:07:57 PM
#194:


greengravy294 posted...
Anything on m2k?
Not yet!

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pjbasis
07/04/20 1:11:23 PM
#195:


Yeah sometimes you can tell more by the way the accused handles the situation than anything.


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_stingers_
07/04/20 1:42:14 PM
#196:


Zero just unfriended me on FB, but his FB is still active. I wonder if he caught wind of my posts about him here

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WhiteLens
07/04/20 1:46:59 PM
#197:


Could be that he's unfriending everyone that aren't his close personal connections.

greengravy294 posted...
Anything on m2k?

Looks like there was a fake accusation about him from a long time ago, and he addressed it.

https://twitter.com/MVG_Mew2King/status/1279465753251586049

Though in regards with Mew2King, he's been diagnosed with mental conditions, right? If anything he probably has the hardest time processing everything that's been going on in the past few days.

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_stingers_
07/04/20 1:48:55 PM
#198:


Yeah I'm sure. I imagine I would've had a lot of mutual friends with him in the past, but now I only have 5. Funnily, the 3 of them that you guys would recognize are Ally, D1, and Hbox. Guess the cancel crew needs to stick together. Lol. Though I don't think Hbox has been 'cancelled' yet but he's a notorious womanizer so I'm sure that one is only a matter of time

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07/04/20 1:51:00 PM
#199:


not that he is either, but if anything, mew2king is more likelier to be a unknowing target than an accused

https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2016%2F0915%2Fr126057_604x340_16%2D9.jpg&w=570&h=321&format=jpg

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_stingers_
07/04/20 1:57:40 PM
#200:


M2K isnt fb friends with him either currently, and they were really close in the past. So that is a bit suspicious

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