Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 297: Mnuchin's Oddysee

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UshiromiyaEva
05/25/20 3:13:40 PM
#403:


Sess is an ass and his "turn of character" is obviously completely fake to everyone, but you still gotta calm down here Lada. We all know he sucks, you can let this specific instance go.
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Corrik7
05/25/20 3:14:43 PM
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Dancedreamer posted...
I mean what she said definitely appeals to me. Releasing offenders of non-violent victimless crimes? End civil asset forefiture? It's one of the few things I could agree with Libertarians on!
I guess I can get some DUIs expunged / vacated *shrug* lol

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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 3:16:13 PM
#405:


Corrik7 posted...
He is like this to everyone.

lol no

typical that your reaction to me frequently acting like a dick to you is "there's absolutely nothing wrong with the way i act! he MUST act like this to everyone!" look in the mirror sometime.

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Jakyl25
05/25/20 3:16:14 PM
#406:


SmartMuffin posted...


converting Democrats, actually


...how?
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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 3:16:56 PM
#407:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Sess is an ass and his "turn of character" is obviously completely fake to everyone, but you still gotta calm down here Lada.

why?


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ChaosTonyV4
05/25/20 3:18:40 PM
#408:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
why?

You are off the goop right now, dude.

You are literally insulting people in response to them going "it's not that big of a deal", go take a walk or something my guy.

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iiaattgg
05/25/20 3:18:52 PM
#409:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
ok but why does it matter if he generally posts about biden? i never claimed every politics topic is filled with sess posts about biden. one of the first things i said during this argument was "i didn't say he attacked biden much."
You took a random shot at me with the innuedo that i am known for attacking biden here when i a) rarely post here and b) when i do its rarely about him. You just dont like me (which is fine) and wanted to be a dick. Thats okay too, its just people can call you out for it

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iiaattgg
05/25/20 3:19:33 PM
#410:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Sess is an ass and his "turn of character" is obviously completely fake to everyone, but you still gotta calm down here Lada. We all know he sucks, you can let this specific instance go.
Listen to your friend man. We want whats best for you

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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 3:23:50 PM
#411:


iiaattgg posted...
You took a random shot at me with the innuedo that i am known for attacking biden here

wtf? no i didn't.

you said that the argument me and several people were having was "boring."

i responded by saying that i don't find your attacks on biden interesting. the point was that if you think that every single post in this topic needs to be highly interesting (to the point that you call posts out for being boring), perhaps you should work to make your own posts in these topics more interesting.

there was no "innuendo that you're known for attacking biden." that's something you're reading into the post that's not actually there.

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iiaattgg
05/25/20 3:25:01 PM
#412:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
wtf? no i didn't.

you said that the argument me and several people were having was "boring."

i responded by saying that i don't find your attacks on biden interesting. the point was that if you think that every single post in this topic needs to be highly interesting (to the point that you call posts out for being boring), perhaps you should work to make your own posts in these topics more interesting.

there was no "innuendo that you're known for attacking biden." that's something you're reading into the post that's not actually there.
Im gonna do YOU a solid and put you on ignore. Dont ever have to worry about what i think again homie

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MoogleKupo141
05/25/20 3:26:27 PM
#413:


Mr Lasastryke posted...


ok but why does it matter if he generally posts about biden? i never claimed every politics topic is filled with sess posts about biden. one of the first things i said during this argument was "i didn't say he attacked biden much."


why does any of this matter? Thats kind of my point. I dont know why you made this into an argument at all.

But I guess if it mattered, it would matter that he doesnt regularly post about Biden because that would also suggest he doesnt often attack Biden which makes it seem odd to bring up his attacks on Biden as if attacking Biden is a notable trait of Sesss.

Is he really doing enough Biden attacking that weve become bored with it? If the most recent post you can find of him mentioning Biden is almost three weeks old and not really an attack then I feel like the answer is no.
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iiaattgg
05/25/20 3:26:46 PM
#414:


Im sorry yall had to deal with that. All i did was say i thought asset talk was boring!

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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 3:35:33 PM
#415:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
why does any of this matter? Thats kind of my point. I dont know why you made this into an argument at all.

well, i care when people refuse to admit when they're wrong, as you know.

But I guess if it mattered, it would matter that he doesnt regularly post about Biden because that would also suggest he doesnt often attack Biden which makes it seem odd to bring up his attacks on Biden as if attacking Biden is a notable trait of Sesss.

i never said attacking biden is a notable trait of sess's. why are you making this weird jump in logic too?

like, the argument went like this:

sess: people arguing, your posts in this argument are boring. make more interesting posts.
me: well, it's not like all of your posts in this topic are highly interesting. i think your attacks on biden are boring. if you're so concerned with people making boring posts to the point that you're calling them out for them, you should work on making more interesting posts too.
you: you're saying sess generally attacks biden! you're saying attacking biden is a notable trait of sess's!
me: no i didn't...?

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NFUN
05/25/20 3:38:06 PM
#416:


okay now this argument is boring

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MoogleKupo141
05/25/20 4:08:06 PM
#417:


Mr Lasastryke posted...


well, i care when people refuse to admit when they're wrong, as you know.

i never said attacking biden is a notable trait of sess's. why are you making this weird jump in logic too?

like, the argument went like this:

sess: people arguing, your posts in this argument are boring. make more interesting posts.
me: well, it's not like all of your posts in this topic are highly interesting. i think your attacks on biden are boring. if you're so concerned with people making boring posts to the point that you're calling them out for them, you should work on making more interesting posts too.
you: you're saying sess generally attacks biden! you're saying attacking biden is a notable trait of sess's!
me: no i didn't...?


Since there arent any recent attacks on Biden from sess in the topic, your post comes across as coming out of nowhere. It seems like you expect us to know that sess has attacked biden multiple times in the past because otherwise the post wouldnt make sense, but if sess doesnt really attack Biden very much its sort of presumptuous to think wed know that.

so I think the post makes it look like you think attacking Biden is a notable trait of Sess because its a really weird zing otherwise. If theres not a recent example of it in the topic, why would you choose Biden attacks over something people might actually associate with Sess?

i erased and retyped a bunch of parts of this post to try to convey my thoughts correctly but its possible its still a mess. m going to take a nap.

I just want to make sure you know im not trying to be mean here, I just found your reactions a little odd.
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TheRock1525
05/25/20 4:08:11 PM
#418:


Jakyl25 posted...
...how?
My same thought. Why would people who support more government intervention want to join the "free market only" club?

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iiaattgg
05/25/20 4:09:26 PM
#419:


NFUN posted...
okay now this argument is boring
Well mercifully you never have to see him and i argue again. Actually probably never have to see me argue with anyone here again as it seems tony and i have made our peace and despite other people not liking me (which is a part of life) we dont really fight

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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 4:47:16 PM
#420:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
Since there arent any recent attacks on Biden from sess in the topic, your post comes across as coming out of nowhere. It seems like you expect us to know that sess has attacked biden multiple times in the past because otherwise the post wouldnt make sense, but if sess doesnt really attack Biden very much its sort of presumptuous to think wed know that.

so I think the post makes it look like you think attacking Biden is a notable trait of Sess because its a really weird zing otherwise. If theres not a recent example of it in the topic, why would you choose Biden attacks over something people might actually associate with Sess?

it was just the first thing that came to mind for me - like, i don't know if there even is one singular theme that sess constantly talks about in the politics containment topics. admittedly, i did look up some more old sess posts and in these topics he didn't post as much about biden as i thought. so yeah, if you keep your consuming of politics-related posts on this board limited to these topics, i can definitely see why you'd be like "huh what are you talking about" when reading my post (not that i can't see it if you also read the other stuff). i was thinking about stuff like when that one dude made a topic about that extremely harsh anti-biden ad a few weeks ago and sess said "fantastic political ad" - i guess in my head, i just grouped all of those posts together as having taken place in here. (and if sess were interested in continuing this argument, i'm sure he'd say "oh no i wasn't attacking biden there i was just saying that video was very well done," but whatever.) but yeah, i didn't mean to imply that attacking biden is a notable sess trait and that wasn't the point i was trying to make. had i known that this would have turned out to be such a big deal, i would have picked a different example of an uninteresting sess post lol

i erased and retyped a bunch of parts of this post to try to convey my thoughts correctly but its possible its still a mess. m going to take a nap.

I just want to make sure you know im not trying to be mean here, I just found your reactions a little odd.

yeah, i did not like your "you look worse than sess" comment. appreciate the clarification, though.

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HeroicCrono
05/25/20 4:49:16 PM
#421:


TheRock1525 posted...
My same thought. Why would people who support more government intervention want to join the "free market only" club?

Because they hate Trump so much they'll sell out their most cherished principles to hurt him. But that will only happen if they start to see the Democratic Party as nonviable. Which is possible (unlikely) if they lose this year I suppose.
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HeroicCrono
05/25/20 4:50:58 PM
#422:


I don't really get what this Lasa/Sess argument is about but it seems pretty boring.
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LordoftheMorons
05/25/20 4:53:18 PM
#423:


https://twitter.com/BGrueskin/status/1265003108725395463

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iiaattgg
05/25/20 5:02:41 PM
#424:


HeroicCrono posted...
I don't really get what this Lasa/Sess argument is about but it seems pretty boring.
Again, wasnt my intention for my remark to devolve into that. I apologize to the people in this topic who had to witness it

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ChaosTonyV4
05/25/20 5:05:00 PM
#425:


Lets discuss something actually interesting:

https://twitter.com/business/status/1264837379652714496?s=21

On a scale of 1-10, how moral is it that these comic book villain-tier people arent just tolerated, but are celebrated by a certain crowd?

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iiaattgg
05/25/20 5:10:36 PM
#426:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Lets discuss something actually interesting:

https://twitter.com/business/status/1264837379652714496?s=21

On a scale of 1-10, how moral is it that these comic book villain-tier people arent just tolerated, but are celebrated by a certain crowd?

If the people that they root for (the super rich) are "better" than simply the people on the other side (which of course they will be, they are billionaires), it makes them feel like they are better

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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 5:49:36 PM
#427:


lol got modded for my post where i insulted corrik

so much for "tHe MoDs ArE sO bIaSeD"

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SmartMuffin
05/25/20 6:03:45 PM
#428:


Jakyl25 posted...
...how?

by pandering to gays and drug users and illegal immigrants, mostly

its a stupid strategy, but its basically the only one they've had since 2008

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LordoftheMorons
05/25/20 6:04:00 PM
#429:


Not sure this is the appropriate adjective here

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1264893060774793218

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Inviso
05/25/20 6:31:14 PM
#430:


SmartMuffin posted...
by pandering to gays and drug users and illegal immigrants, mostly

its a stupid strategy, but its basically the only one they've had since 2008

Well, those are the people who would actually benefit from the libertarian platform practicing what it preaches, given the governmental oppression they face as is. What other strategy should they use? Try to appeal to Republicans, who don't actually care about personal liberty?

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iiaattgg
05/25/20 7:09:10 PM
#431:


By the way, not that most of you will care or accept it (and thats okay), i am geniunely sorry for the things i have posted in the past that were done with the intention to hurt or belittle others. While most of that transpired outside of this topic, a lot of you still seem to be carrying that so i did want to apologize and say that is on me. As some of you know, i spent most of my young adulthood heavily addicted to opiates and that loss of control in my personal life led to me taking things out on people i didnt know online. Im trying to be better. Sometimes that old person comes back because posting that way is all i ever knew on here. But you all are geniunely a joy to talk to and i consider you all to be some of the more intelligent people around

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Voxwik
05/25/20 7:29:58 PM
#432:


SmartMuffin posted...


by pandering to gays and drug users and illegal immigrants, mostly

its a stupid strategy, but its basically the only one they've had since 2008

Pandering to gays? You realize "the gays" and other minorities are people and not just annoying bugs you should be able to ignore and maliciously attack through policy right? I'm guessing no, but man it's chilling to see bigotry so plainly out there.
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Corrik7
05/25/20 7:48:24 PM
#433:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
lol got modded for my post where i insulted corrik

so much for "tHe MoDs ArE sO bIaSeD"
Nobody could skip a moderation for calling someone that.

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red sox 777
05/25/20 7:51:02 PM
#434:


Inviso posted...
Well, those are the people who would actually benefit from the libertarian platform practicing what it preaches, given the governmental oppression they face as is. What other strategy should they use? Try to appeal to Republicans, who don't actually care about personal liberty?

Yeah, it's not a bad strategy. Republicans aren't going to vote LP and risk the Democrats winning.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 7:53:10 PM
#435:


Corrik7 posted...
Nobody could skip a moderation for calling someone that.

you think "douchebag" is such a terrible insult that it would be impossible for anyone to avoid getting modded for it? i've said worse things than that without getting modded!

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red sox 777
05/25/20 7:54:18 PM
#436:


Yeah, Lasa, you should probably avoid making those posts that purely attack people with expletives.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 7:57:12 PM
#437:


red sox 777 posted...
Yeah, Lasa, you should probably avoid making those posts that purely attack people with expletives.

while other people should be allowed to insult me? these rules only apply to me?

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red sox 777
05/25/20 8:00:42 PM
#438:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
while other people should be allowed to insult me? these rules only apply to me?

You can avoid using expletives. Those don't add anything to the conversation and tend to lower your credibility.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 8:02:31 PM
#439:


oh, it's just the expletives you have an issue with. that's fine.

and i'll stop attacking people using expletives when people stop insulting me.

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StealThisSheen
05/25/20 8:04:14 PM
#440:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
and i'll stop attacking people using expletives when people stop insulting me.

You always say this, but half the time you do it when nobody is actually insulting you.

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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 8:06:00 PM
#441:


StealThisSheen posted...
You always say this, but half the time you do it when nobody is actually insulting you.

provide evidence for your claim

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Corrik7
05/25/20 8:06:30 PM
#442:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
you think "douchebag" is such a terrible insult that it would be impossible for anyone to avoid getting modded for it? i've said worse things than that without getting modded!
Yes, I do. If you wish to call me something worse than it, you can try and see if you get moderated or not. *Shakes head*

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LordoftheMorons
05/25/20 8:07:00 PM
#443:


Trump all but admitting that the reason he doesnt wear a mask is that he thinks hell look stupid:

https://twitter.com/jonlemire/status/1265065321297252353?s=21

(But also Biden looks totally fine?)

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Mr Lasastryke
05/25/20 8:09:06 PM
#444:


Corrik7 posted...
Yes, I do. If you wish to call me something worse than it, you can try and see if you get moderated or not. *Shakes head*

i've called you an "asshole" and a "dipshit" on plenty of occasions and didn't get modded for it. if those aren't worse than "douchebag," i'd say they're at least on par with it on the scale of offensiveness.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/25/20 8:09:37 PM
#445:


Biden looks like [Spoilers] from Zero Time Dilemma.
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iiaattgg
05/25/20 8:10:55 PM
#446:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Trump all but admitting that the reason he doesnt wear a mask is that he thinks hell look stupid:

https://twitter.com/jonlemire/status/1265065321297252353?s=21

(But also Biden looks totally fine?)
To be fair, trump would look pretty stupid in one

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Paratroopa1
05/25/20 8:13:26 PM
#447:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Biden looks like [Spoilers] from Zero Time Dilemma.
his malarkey is complex
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UshiromiyaEva
05/25/20 8:17:24 PM
#448:


Paratroopa1 posted...
his malarkey is complex


"Healthcare is simply not universal"

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SmartMuffin
05/25/20 8:25:55 PM
#449:


Pandering to gays? You realize "the gays" and other minorities are people and not just annoying bugs you should be able to ignore

The philosophy of individual liberty demands you ignore such things and advocate policies that appeal to all individuals equally.

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Inviso
05/25/20 8:26:48 PM
#450:


SmartMuffin posted...
The philosophy of individual liberty demands you ignore such things and advocate policies that appeal to all individuals equally.

You do realize that gay rights are specifically a thing because they're NOT being treated equally, right?

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UshiromiyaEva
05/25/20 8:40:22 PM
#451:


SmartMuffin posted...
The philosophy of individual liberty demands you ignore such things and advocate policies that appeal to all individuals equally.

OK so with the significant significant amount of pro LGBT+ policies being promoted by some libertarians and the left, we are approximately 20% on the way or so to them truly being accepted as equel in US society. So I assume your stance here is that we need a much, much larger push for gay rights to get them accepted up to the same level, then?
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iiaattgg
05/25/20 8:44:48 PM
#452:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
OK so with the significant significant amount of pro LGBT+ policies being promoted by some libertarians and the left, we are approximately 20% on the way or so to them truly being accepted as equel in US society. So I assume your stance here is that we need a much, much larger push for gay rights to get them accepted up to the same level, then?

Legitimate question coming from ignorance: what rights are lgbtq+ people presently lacking? Id imagine the full list is too big of an ask, so the big ones would help fill in my blind spot as i simply just do not know

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