Poll of the Day > This coronavirus shit is getting out of hand with the way people are reacting.

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Okay, rant time. I work nights and not much is open when I go home. Couple fast food restaurants, few 24 hour grocery stores, whatever.

This virus thing isn't even in our area and the whole city is on some sort of psycho-hell-lockdown thing. I do my shopping about twice a month or so, no big deal. Don't need bread which is a good thing because for some reason the forty million loaves of bread that are usually on the shelves are ALL GONE. Every single fucking one of them. It's like the store just opened. Same thing for the toilet paper isle. You'd think the apocalypse just took place.

For the love of all that's fucking holy, 35 people have died from this "pandemic" here in the USA. That's it, just 35. I think 35 people probably died from falling down the stairs just this afternoon between 1pm and 2pm. This is completely out of hand.

Now, on the to the story you all probably want because otherwise why would I waste my time? I'm generally laughing at the people that are acting like it's the total end of the world except this time I came across one at one of my long-time favorite places to eat.

Again, I work late and hardly anything is open. There's a shitty 24 hour McDonald's that's way out of my way and I'm not driving way over there just to eat.... McDonald's. Plus, I can't stand eating there more than maybe three times a year. They never get my order right, they're slow as molasses in any cold weather month, I've NEVER seen the same people working there but that's a "whole 'nother" story.

I've been wanting some Steak & Shake for over a week and since I'm already just a mile away shopping for groceries I'll just head over there and pick up a couple burgers and an order of fries. Sounds good to me, I don't feel like cooking anything tonight. Lots of people in my area think S&S is pretty meh since it's relatively new to my area but I grew up in a different city and it was always around. I move a few times, no thanks to my parents and S&S is history and the only time we get to eat it is if we're visiting family, which is barely a couple times a year. Now there's one in my city and I eat there a couple/few times a year and I don't even have to drive that far to get there. It's only a few miles and it's great.

So, I get there and the place looks deserted, which is completely rare but I understand the circumstances. Another vehicle goes around to the drive-through but I don't like the drive-through at S&S because it's just impersonal and I grew up with this place and always go inside. I want to talk to a person that can understand me and make sure they hear what I'm saying. We all know how those speakers translate everything in to a foreign language when you talk in to them.

I park and get out of my car and the sign on the outside says: DINING ROOM TEMPORARILY CLOSED - DRIVE THROUGH AND CARRY OUT ORDERS ONLY. Okay, well, if the door's locked then I'll go through the drive through, or maybe I'll just skip it since food prep at S&S is not particularly quick and I'd rather not sit in my car....... I try the "airlock" outside door and, surprise, it opens. I try the next door and, surprise, it opens too. There's a printed note right on the counter that says something about how, again, and I'm paraphrasing, "due to the State governor's requests the dining room is temporarily closed but the drive through will remain open and carry out orders will be filled, thanks for your understand, blah blah blah, stay safe, etc."

There seems to be ONE guy working in this place. He doesn't acknowledge me in any way, just takes the order from the guy in the SUV on the speaker. Also, he doesn't really seem to understand what the guy is telling him which furthers my reason for not using the drive-through.

Nearly FIFTEEN minutes later after this guy cooks this guy's food, takes the guy's money and packs up all the food ordered he FINALLY comes to the counter where I haven't said anything up to this point. Guy's alone and demanding service is just extremely rude in my book.

"You're exaggerating! How do you know it's been close to fifteen minutes?"
Because by this time FIVE songs have played on the muzak since I've been standing there at the counter. Otherwise, I likely would never have known.

So, the guy comes over towards the counter, wildly pointing and yelling something to the effect of, "You can't be in here! You can't be in this area at all! We aren't serving anyone right now except drive through!"

I'm sure I had a shocked/questioning/confused/WTF look on my face and replied with, "Yeah, I know you're doing 'dine in', I'm just getting a 'carry out' order."

He interrupts with another barrage of, "You CAN'T be in here!"

I again replied with something to the effect of, "It says "carry out and drive through ONLY, and I just want to place a 'carry out' order NOT dine in."

He yells, "Where does it say that? The sign on the door outside says no one can come in the building!"

I said, pointing at the piece of paper on the counter RIGHT NEXT TO HIM, "It says you're taking carry out orders RIGHT THERE ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER."

He takes the piece of paper ....... AND FLIPS IT OVER..... and says, "Forget what this says, the sign says that you....."

At this point I start walking out. On my way to the door I say, "Would've been nice if you said all this ten minutes ago instead of me standing in here and wasting all my time."

He yells at me, "WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?!"

I interrupt him and say, "Forget it. Just forget it dude." I'm not buying any food from here tonight.

I'm at the door heading out and the guy at the drive through window is parked right by the door instead of at the window. He says something smarmy like, "I'm not going to serve you if you keep it up."

Really, nutjob?

He goes over to the car waiting outside and starts to give them their food and once again, argumentatively says, "The sign on the door says you can't be in here, drive through only."

VERY annoyed at this point I tap the glass on the door loudly with my finger and point right to where it says in BIG LETTERS: DRIVE THROUGH AND CARRY OUT ONLY -- DINING ROOM TEMPORARILY CLOSED and say, "It says RIGHT HERE, CARRY OUT!" and then go to my car.

He yells something else but I yell over him with another, "Forget it, just forget it!"

If I can't be in the place WHY THE HELL IS THE DOOR UNLOCKED, GENIUS?! Wish I would have said that before I left, but whatever. I'm not in to picking fights with demagogues. And all this because a tiny handful of people

You were 100% in the wrong in this situation

The sign said the indoor part of the restaurant was closed. Now they probably should have locked the door but it was still a total asshole move to ignore the sign, go inside, and then act like an angry child when you didnt get your way.

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Mead posted...

You were 100% in the wrong in this situation

The sign said the indoor part of the restaurant was closed. Now they probably should have locked the door but it was still a total asshole move to ignore the sign, go inside, and then act like an angry child when you didnt get your way.

Did I not just say they were doing CARRY OUT orders? Did you even read what I posted? It was on the DOOR and on the COUNTER.

Sounds like the 'asshole move' is your lack of reading comprehension.

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UltraKev9 posted...

Did I not just say they were doing CARRY OUT orders? Did you even read what I posted? It was on the DOOR and on the COUNTER.

Sounds like the 'asshole move' is your lack of reading comprehension.

I read that, you were still in the wrong. When they told you that werent allowed inside, why even argue? You also seem to think that covid-19 isnt in your area but unless theyre doing large scale testing there really isnt any way to know that.

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what the actual genuine fuck dude

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Mead posted...

I read that, you were still in the wrong.

How is he supposed to get his carry out order without going inside?

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The sign could have been more clear but even TC clarified that it said the dining room was closed. No sense in being outraged over something so pedantic.

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anyone have the 2020, I ain't got time to read that, version of the post?

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Mead posted...

The sign could have been more clear but even TC clarified that it said the dining room was closed. No sense in being outraged over something so pedantic.

He wasn't going to the dining room though, he was going to the counter to get a carryout order. Where else is he supposed to do that?

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Mead posted...

The sign could have been more clear but even TC clarified that it said the dining room was closed. No sense in being outraged over something so pedantic.

Calling what I wrote "pedantic" again makes me believe you only understood what you wanted and didn't read what I wrote. I stood there for almost fifteen minutes BEFORE the guy got quasi-hostile. My reaction would have been quite different had he said something within a couple minutes of me coming through the door. The guy SAW me enter the place. He did nothing. He waiting until he cooked all that food and then decided to read me the riot act. I think my reaction was quite subdued. In fact, the dining area to the restaurant had a bunch of stuff in front of it so you couldn't wander around but the entrance way was completely clear right to the counter. I didn't even sit down at the counter and I was in full view the entire time.

If what the sign says and someones' flipping-over-the-piece-of-paper-and-changing-the-rules because-you're-ignorant-and-can't-read-what-the-manager-put-there don't jive then I'm going to question that person's actions. If the sign said "INSIDE CLOSED -- DRIVE THROUGH ONLY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE" I'd never have gone in.

Funny thing, in many of these States I'm hearing exactly the same thing. Not that the people working there are this dense but that "drive through and carry out" is open but the dining area is closed. You know, none of this would've even happened had the guy not acted like he has never seen another human being before. No wonder this guy probably only works the griddle and never talks to people, since he's clearly unhinged.

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Mead posted...

The sign could have been more clear but even TC clarified that it said the dining room was closed. No sense in being outraged over something so pedantic.

I forgot carry out counters are in the middle of dining rooms.
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hypnox posted...

anyone have the 2020, I ain't got time to read that, version of the post?

Man, you complain even in other topics.

UltraKev9 posted...

I stood there for almost fifteen minutes BEFORE the guy got quasi-hostile.

He was probably hoping that youd just leave considering you were the only person that didnt get the clue that the inside area was closed and he probably figured youd be a difficult and belligerent customer that would treat him like shit when you didnt get your way.

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Mead posted...

He was probably hoping that youd just leave considering you were the only person that didnt get the clue that the inside area was closed and he probably figured youd be a difficult and belligerent customer that would treat him like shit when you didnt get your way.

Rasmoh posted...

he was going to the counter to get a carryout order. Where else is he supposed to do that?

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Is there a tl;dr version?

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Probably dodged a bullet, sounds like a dude that would put virus in your burger after having his illiteracy exposed.

Im not reading all that shit lol

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Mead posted...

You were 100% in the wrong in this situation

The sign said the indoor part of the restaurant was closed. Now they probably should have locked the door but it was still a total asshole move to ignore the sign, go inside, and then act like an angry child when you didnt get your way.

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Mead posted...

He was probably hoping that youd just leave considering you were the only person that didnt get the clue that the inside area was closed and he probably figured youd be a difficult and belligerent customer that would treat him like shit when you didnt get your way.

I mean, the sign did say carry out orders. That definitely sounds like the inside itself is open. Normally, you dont have to go to the dining area to get a carry out order. If they didnt want anyone inside at all, then that probably should have been written, and the doors locked. The fact that it said drive-thru and carry out makes it sound like you could order from the counter inside. Why else write it like that?

Also, I dont see how not telling someone earlier (like when he walked in) that the inside was close is better. That would make a difficult and belligerent customer even worse. And does literally waste their time. It was a poorly written sign, and he seemed to figure that out as he told him to basically ignore what the sign said. I feel you would want to get rid of a customer you dont want to deal with sooner rather than later...
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LinkPizza posted...

The fact that it said drive-thru and carry out makes it sound like you could order from the counter inside. Why else write it like that?

the sign was stupid, once he was told he wasnt supposed to be inside though that should have been the end of it

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"everyone's overreacting because not many people have died yet"

... is your brilliant plan to wait until many people have died, and then respond? Ya know, instead of trying to prevent it from getting to that point in the first place?

the fact that you're literally posting about arguing with a fast food worker should tell us all we need to know about how much your stance on public health should matter.

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Mead posted...

the sign was stupid, once he was told he wasnt supposed to be inside though that should have been the end of it

It sounds like he clarified first (to make sure the worker knew he wasnt dining-in. And once the worker freaked out and told him the sign was wrong, he started to leave. He did make sure to show the guy, though. Which lets the worker know to either lock the door, or change the sign. Probably both. And to maybe clarify with the manager/owner to make sure people arent allowed in.
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tl;dr: dude gets mad over his own incompetence; blames other people


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You can't get a carry out order without going inside.

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Mead posted...

I read that, you were still in the wrong. When they told you that werent allowed inside, why even argue? You also seem to think that covid-19 isnt in your area but unless theyre doing large scale testing there really isnt any way to know that.

The dining area was closed, not the carry out. This is just another case, in a never ending list, of situations where you're wrong, Mead.

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b_hamnite posted...

Is there a tl;dr version?

Tc went to pick up some food that said drive through and pick up only, got ignored and then the worker and tc started yelling at each other. Theres also a short review on McDonalds and steak and shake included.

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The_tall_midget posted...

The dining area was closed, not the carry out. This is just another case, in a never ending list, of situations where you're wrong, Mead.

i mean, he's not, according to the people that work there it was all closed, as per the tc's rant.

also

closed but the drive through will remain open and carry out orders will be filled

means that the carry out orders will be done through the drive through.

oh, and

And all this because a tiny handful of people got the superflu and everyone is acting like it's the end of the world as we know it but I'm fucking fine.

look up what pneumonia is, because you clearly have no fucking idea. also, check out what's going on in italy.

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"Dining room closed" in a restaurant setting generally just means you can't sit down and eat, not that people aren't allowed in the physical space that contains the dining room. If it's a place that offers take-out service, they'll generally let people come in to order and pick that up. That said, the phrase does leave some room for misinterpretation (see: the posts in this topic), especially when filtered through the context of "we're trying to avoid people because plague," and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the employee in question received no clarification from his manager before being left to handle the night shift on his own. A little more patience from TC would have been reasonable; this is a rapidly-evolving situation and you can't expect everyone to have exactly the same understanding of it as you do.

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I'm frustrated about all the grocery stores being closed too (all the 24 hour stores are closing here despite my state having 0 confirmed cases so far)

I'm not going to let my frustration go and make me be a dick to people working fast food. When I heard places aren't allowing diners any more in some states I never thought that means "I can just walk in" and I wouldn't try to make a point over arguing the specific meaning of how their sign is worded.

It's weird that grocery stores are closing. Most places have been recommending that grocery stores remain open, since they're kind of vital.

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BlackScythe0 posted...

I'm frustrated about all the grocery stores being closed too (all the 24 hour stores are closing here despite my state having 0 confirmed cases so far)

I'm not going to let my frustration go and make me be a dick to people working fast food. When I heard places aren't allowing diners any more in some states I never thought that means "I can just walk in" and I wouldn't try to make a point over arguing the specific meaning of how their sign is worded.

Closing all day, or having temporary periods of closing? I know most of the stores are working on shorter hours, but I think it is mostly so they can restock/sanitize without having to deal with customers. Walmart near me that is usually 24 hours is operating on a 6 am - 11 pm schedule.

Mead posted...

He was probably hoping that youd just leave considering you were the only person that didnt get the clue that the inside area was closed and he probably figured youd be a difficult and belligerent customer that would treat him like shit when you didnt get your way.

I guess both you and the guy can't read.

Bulbasaur posted...

i mean, he's not, according to the people that work there it was all closed, as per the tc's rant.

And the worker was clearly lying or an idiot. Managers are the ones who write signs like those since they are the only ones with access to the actual rules and computers to print the signs.

Archgoat posted...

Closing all day, or having temporary periods of closing? I know most of the stores are working on shorter hours, but I think it is mostly so they can restock/sanitize without having to deal with customers. Walmart near me that is usually 24 hours is operating on a 6 am - 11 pm schedule.

Even the non 24 hour Walmarts are 6-11 now.
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Archgoat posted...

Closing all day, or having temporary periods of closing? I know most of the stores are working on shorter hours, but I think it is mostly so they can restock/sanitize without having to deal with customers. Walmart near me that is usually 24 hours is operating on a 6 am - 11 pm schedule.

Yea, I meant nights. I normally go shopping after work and I can't now because I don't get off until after 12.

Bulbasaur posted...

means that the carry out orders will be done through the drive through.

Why would anyone assume this? Hell, many places expressly forbid people walking up to the drive thru.

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Rasmoh posted...

Why would anyone assume this? Hell, many places expressly forbid people walking up to the drive thru.

Yea, they aren't allowed to take walk ups.

Rasmoh posted...

Why would anyone assume this? Hell, many places expressly forbid people walking up to the drive thru.

because that's literally what it says, if we assume tc wrote it verbatim.

and i'm pretty sure, given the circumstances, walk-ups would be okay at this point.

regardless, the tc is clearly wrong, given that the employees there straight told him he was wrong.

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Bulbasaur posted...

because that's literally what it says, if we assume tc wrote it verbatim.

That's not even remotely what it says, if TC wrote it verbatim.

Saying "DRIVE THROUGH AND CARRY OUT ORDERS ONLY" doesn't waive existing rules or expectations in any way. If a fast food place has previously banned people from walking up to a drive-through (and many do), there's nothing in that sign that says people are now allowed to use the drive-through as a walk-through.

You're free to assume it MEANS that they're allowing that. But that's not a literal interpretation of what they've posted, only your assumption of how things should work. You might be right. But you might also be wrong. And it's not unrealistic for people to assume that isn't how things work, because they've never worked that way, and no alternative on contradiction has been explicitly posted. Especially since in most restaurants for most of modern history, "carry out" means you actually go inside to order.

If anything, in order to "literally say" you can do walk-up orders in the drive-through, the sign would need to say something like "DRIVE THROUGH AND CARRY OUT ORDERS ONLY / PLEASE PLACE ALL ORDERS VIA DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW, CUSTOMERS NOT ALLOWED INSIDE"
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I agree TC. Mass hysteria is amusing to watch but the vast majority of the human race are stupid and selfish so I can't say I'm surprised by the way things are going.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Saying "DRIVE THROUGH AND CARRY OUT ORDERS ONLY" doesn't waive existing rules

UltraKev9 posted...

but the drive through will remain open and carry out orders will be filled

shut up po.

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Bulbasaur posted...

shut up po.

That doesn't contradict what he said. Carry out orders are placed and picked up at the counter.

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Revelation34 posted...

Managers are the ones who write signs like those since they are the only ones with access to the actual rules and computers to print the signs.

Lmao. What kind of dumbass generalization is this

Im not reading all of that but people are definitely overreacting.

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Bulbasaur posted...

shut up po.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Saying "DRIVE THROUGH AND CARRY OUT ORDERS ONLY" doesn't waive existing rules or expectations in any way.

shut up helly.
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Bulbasaur posted...

because that's literally what it says, if we assume tc wrote it verbatim.

and i'm pretty sure, given the circumstances, walk-ups would be okay at this point.

regardless, the tc is clearly wrong, given that the employees there straight told him he was wrong.

I already proved this wrong.
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adjl posted...

It's weird that grocery stores are closing. Most places have been recommending that grocery stores remain open, since they're kind of vital.

They are closing at night mostly. I heard it was to stock shelves since people were taking stuff from the workers trying to stock items. But they will remain open during like the normal day for the most part. Some do have new hours for the time being...
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LinkPizza posted...

They are closing at night mostly. I heard it was to stock shelves since people were taking stuff from the workers trying to stock items. But they will remain open during like the normal day for the most part. Some do have new hours for the time being...

That sounds like a normal thing to do.
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Revelation34 posted...

That sounds like a normal thing to do.

Apparently, they were ripping. From the hands of the employees trying to put it on th a shelf. And taking them from boxes. And taking too much, as well. Not letting others get any. Even on this site, someone said how the employee was trying to give everybody a fair share before they started doing what they wanted...
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If you think people are going to sympathize with you for making the lives of people working in shitty jobs during a shitty period in history that much harder, you are quite mistaken.

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