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FFDragon
02/11/20 11:15:16 AM
#201:


https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1227235025399287808

Ted Cruz with the stealth endorsement of Bernie.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/11/20 11:20:29 AM
#202:


Bernie's first act as president will be to shut down every podcast except Rogan and Chapo

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DoomTheGyarados
02/11/20 11:21:17 AM
#203:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Bernie's first act as president will be to shut down every podcast except Rogan and Chapo

Probably would be ok with his own staying up

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charmander6000
02/11/20 11:43:31 AM
#204:


Bloomberg's support is quite soft. With Biden's support eroding a lot of people are looking for other options. If you feel a more centrist option is the best way to defeat Trump your options are either Bloomberg, Buttigieg or Klobuchar. Between the three Bloomberg currently has the most name recognition which is why he and Buttigieg are seeing bumps.

The strategy of skipping the first four states may end up benefiting him. If Biden continues to bleed support and if Buttigieg performs as expected in Nevada and South Carolina and Klobuchar continues her impression of Kasich he could frame Super Tuesday as him being the only moderate with a chance and have people coalesce around him which probably wouldn't happen had he started in Iowa.

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DoomTheGyarados
02/11/20 11:46:57 AM
#205:


Wait hold on. A new Monmouth poll, A+ rating on 538... has Bernie up 10 nationally.

Oh god people just needed permission to think he was electable LET'S GO.

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KamikazePotato
02/11/20 11:53:02 AM
#206:


So how soon are we supposed to get results THIS time?

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charmander6000
02/11/20 11:55:51 AM
#207:


KamikazePotato posted...
So how soon are we supposed to get results THIS time?

Polls close at 7pm (eastern) so I imagine within an hour after...

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red sox 777
02/11/20 11:57:21 AM
#208:


NH is a regular primary. Haven't seen any problems with the counting process within my memory.

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GuessMyUserName
02/11/20 1:39:46 PM
#209:


voters indecisiveness is going to completely shatter the party come July and they don't even realize it yet

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DoomTheGyarados
02/11/20 1:43:08 PM
#210:


Just need Bernie to gain momentum so we can come together.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/11/20 1:48:13 PM
#211:


GuessMyUserName posted...
voters indecisiveness is going to completely shatter the party come July and they don't even realize it yet

They just need to hold it together long enough to rally around beating Trump. They can shatter after, that's fine.

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red sox 777
02/11/20 1:49:59 PM
#212:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
They just need to hold it together long enough to rally around beating Trump. They can shatter after, that's fine.

Yeah that's not happening against the great divider. Trump is the most divisive candidate since Lincoln, truly a master of sowing division.

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Jakyl25
02/11/20 2:10:04 PM
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MoogleKupo141
02/11/20 2:15:41 PM
#214:


https://jeff.zone/post/190774837501/you-think-pete-buttigieg-has-played-a-3d-sonic
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xp1337
02/11/20 2:37:15 PM
#215:


KamikazePotato posted...
So how soon are we supposed to get results THIS time?
like charmander said not too long after polls close (idk about an hour though if Sanders wins big maybe we get a call that soon) but sometime tonight.

the power of not being a caucus

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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 2:41:04 PM
#216:


https://twitter.com/normative/status/1227306927438336000?s=21

Fucking disgusting

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red sox 777
02/11/20 2:46:06 PM
#217:


People, I warned you for months. You guys wanted to proceed with the impeachment anyway. Now the Court of Impeachment has ruled that the President is a little closer to being above the law and you don't like how he is using his new powers. Should have thought about that earlier!

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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 2:48:38 PM
#218:


https://twitter.com/eliehonig/status/1227282645853360130?s=21

red sox 777 posted...
People, I warned you for months. You guys wanted to proceed with the impeachment anyway. Now the Court of Impeachment has ruled that the President is a little closer to being above the law and you don't like how he is using his new powers. Should have thought about that earlier!

If he wasnt impeached he would have done this months ago

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red sox 777
02/11/20 2:56:54 PM
#219:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/eliehonig/status/1227282645853360130?s=21

If he wasnt impeached he would have done this months ago

Substantively I think this process is more in line with what the framers intended. The President calls the shots on prosecutions. The attorney general and his subordinates advise the President, but the President has the ultimate decision.

It should be this way, because the President is the only elected official there. In local elections if the district attorney is doing a bad job the voters can replace him. The unelected people of the DOJ cannot be replaced through election; only the President, who constitutionally is supposed to exercise control over them, can. So the President should take charge there.

Now if the President feels the DOJ is doing a good job and he wishes to approve their decisions without change, fine. But this President ran for office on a platform of draining the swamp, so for him to just accept what the DOJ does would be inconsistent with his campaign platform. He promised active management and that is what we expect.

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FFDragon
02/11/20 2:57:34 PM
#220:


red sox 777 posted...
The President calls the shots on prosecutions.

lmao

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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 3:02:23 PM
#221:


  1. Have your goons do crimes for you
  2. Pardon them
  3. Repeat


Just like the founding fathers intended!

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pyresword
02/11/20 3:04:53 PM
#222:


Just because the Democrats failed to prevent this doesn't mean it was a bad idea to try.
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red sox 777
02/11/20 3:04:55 PM
#223:


LordoftheMorons posted...
1. Have your goons do crimes for you
2. Pardon them
3. Repeat

Just like the founding fathers intended!

At least he's trying to bring the establishment/Democratic criminals to justice. We can talk about Republican criminals later but first we have to bring the Democratic ones to heel!

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red sox 777
02/11/20 3:08:52 PM
#224:


And for clarity, let's look at what the Senate did. The Senate essentially agreed with Professor Dershowitz that only actual crimes or things of similar nature to actual crimes are impeachable. For the President to exercise his power to enforce the laws of the United States is certainly not a crime. It could be an abuse of power if he uses it to favor himself. But you Democrats just had the Senate rule that abuse of power is not impeachable and it is not a crime. You have empowered President Trump and he will take every last drop of power you give him.

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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 3:10:27 PM
#225:


Yeah I'm really sure the famously restrained Donald Trump would never have done all of this anyway!

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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 3:11:15 PM
#226:


https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1227321539135143939

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red sox 777
02/11/20 3:13:08 PM
#227:


And what should you have done you ask? There are two bodies that can hold the President to account because they can remove him from office - the US Senate, and the next electoral college. You lack a majority in the Senate and you needed two thirds anyway. All you need is a majority in the electoral college and you had a real chance of getting it if you focused your efforts on it.

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pyresword
02/11/20 3:14:50 PM
#228:


The Democrats didn't do any of that though, and your attemps at gaslighting aren't going to change that.
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KamikazePotato
02/11/20 3:16:27 PM
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Peace___Frog
02/11/20 3:17:33 PM
#230:


But I thought trump learned his lesson when the Senate didn't hold him accountable for anything?

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NFUN
02/11/20 3:18:05 PM
#231:


yes i can hear that video

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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 3:19:22 PM
#232:


Meanwhile:

https://twitter.com/publicintegrity/status/1227323172057427968

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Reg
02/11/20 3:21:41 PM
#233:


KamikazePotato posted...
https://twitter.com/MitchellCares/status/1227298966108196866

@DoomTheGyarados
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red sox 777
02/11/20 3:21:56 PM
#234:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Yeah I'm really sure the famously restrained Donald Trump would never have done all of this anyway!

Trump does what's in his best interest. His campaign would be hurt by openly abusing power. But now the Senate has come and officially decided that abuse of power is okay.

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Suprak the Stud
02/11/20 3:25:13 PM
#235:


LotM I appreciate you trying to reason with a crazy person but I think your time would be better spent trying to get your dog to vote for your candidate of choice.

I'm pretty sure everyone but me and you has him ignored and it really is best to just let himself scream into the abyss so he can convince himself he really is as witty and funny as he thinks he is.

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DoomTheGyarados
02/11/20 3:32:32 PM
#236:


KamikazePotato posted...
https://twitter.com/MitchellCares/status/1227298966108196866

@DoomTheGyarados

My heart is bursting with joy.

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FFDragon
02/11/20 3:32:47 PM
#237:


KamikazePotato posted...
https://twitter.com/MitchellCares/status/1227298966108196866

@DoomTheGyarados

It is basic human nature to immediately want to do something when you're told not to.

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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 3:35:14 PM
#238:


FFDragon posted...
It is basic human nature to immediately want to do something when you're told not to.
Dont give me 50 bucks

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KamikazePotato
02/11/20 3:37:51 PM
#239:


This was my reaction to seeing that video

https://twitter.com/brent858/status/1227299533509533696

Definitely a 'How can I acquire this power?' moment

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Jakyl25
02/11/20 4:07:41 PM
#240:


FFDragon posted...


It is basic human nature to immediately want to do something when you're told not to.


I always have to fight my instinct to OBEY what Im told. Im naturally a bootlicker and had to learn how to rebel without guilt
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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 4:13:49 PM
#241:


A second Stone prosecutor resigns:

https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1227336064219656195?s=21

Incredibly obvious that Trump personally intervened

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red sox 777
02/11/20 4:18:42 PM
#242:


That prosecutor's name is remarkably similar to the Ukrainian President.

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Nelson_Mandela
02/11/20 4:23:06 PM
#243:


I don't know why Trump would bother to intervene (even though it's perfectly within his rights as president). He should just commute the sentence and be done with it.

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xp1337
02/11/20 4:25:33 PM
#244:


LordoftheMorons posted...


Incredibly obvious that Trump personally intervened
Well, I mean, there's also been the incredibly obvious hijacking of the Flynn case with Mueller's team being taken off and being replaced by Barr loyalists.

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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 4:27:21 PM
#245:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
I don't know why Trump would bother to intervene (even though it's perfectly within his rights as president). He should just commute the sentence and be done with it.
He knows pardoning Stone (or commuting his sentence) when he was convicting for doing crimes on his behalf looks horrendous, so hes laundering it through other people. A lot of casual observers wont understand that what hes doing here is pretty much just as bad.

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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 4:32:06 PM
#246:


xp1337 posted...
Well, I mean, there's also been the incredibly obvious hijacking of the Flynn case with Mueller's team being taken off and being replaced by Barr loyalists.
Yeah I guess I shouldnt completely dismiss the possibility that the Barr mind meld is so complete that he just did it on his own

Speaking of which:

https://twitter.com/repdonbeyer/status/1227342740377214978?s=21


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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 4:37:34 PM
#247:


Jesus Christ this twisted Bloomberg logic:
https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1227267729524215810?s=21

Honestly this type of amoral worldview is even more concerning to me than the fact that hes basically buying his way into the race.

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Peace___Frog
02/11/20 4:38:54 PM
#248:


Before you say lolhuffpost, this appears to me to be a thoroughly researched piece. It's long, but it goes into a lot of depth.

https://www.huffpost.com/highline/article/white-collar-crime/

When Barr talks about crime, he's not talking about the kind of crime that gets the job done. He's talking about the kind that you see on cops.

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red sox 777
02/11/20 4:44:24 PM
#249:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Jesus Christ this twisted Bloomberg logic:
https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1227267729524215810?s=21

Honestly this type of amoral worldview is even more concerning to me than the fact that hes basically buying his way into the race.

Don't like Bloomberg, but how is he wrong? California belonged to Mexico, then there were a lot of Americans who moved in and decided they didn't want to be part of Mexico anymore. And they declared their independence, and then declared they wanted to be part of the United States. And the United States accepted and, after winning a war of aggression with Mexico, annexed California.

How is that in any sense better than what Russia did in Crimea? In fact the US action seems clearly worse in that Crimea definitely belonged to Russia before 1954 and was granted to Ukraine by the totalitarian central government of the Soviet Union.

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LordoftheMorons
02/11/20 4:46:42 PM
#250:


https://twitter.com/jeffmason1/status/1227347240269885440?s=21

Trumps not retaliating, he just needs people he can trust

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