Poll of the Day > Do you believe that MSG is safe to eat?

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it's making big news that the new mcdonald's chicken sandwich that they're rolling out to compete with popeye's and chick fil a's chicken sandwiches has msg in it. And a lot of consumers don't like it.

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Chinese food has tons of it. Its just salt, basically.

Monosodium glutamate (MSG), also known as sodium glutamate, is the sodium salt of glutamic acid, one of the most abundant naturally occurring non-essential amino acids. Glutamic acid is found naturally in tomatoes, grapes, cheese, mushrooms and other foods. MSG is used in the food industry as a flavor enhancer with an umami taste that intensifies the meaty, savory flavor of food, as naturally occurring glutamate does in foods such as stews and meat soups.

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Yes, it's safe.

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Its like Vaccines and brontosauruses both had fake or not informed articles on it and it stuck even though its been proven otherwise

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no you shouldnt eat video games

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

no you shouldnt eat video games

Metal Sear Golid.

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I have no issues and think it's fine but my father in law swears he gets migraines from MSG.

He's not even a Knicks fan!

zebatov posted...

Metal Sear Golid.

...Metal Sear?!

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hypnox posted...

Its like Vaccines and brontosauruses both had fake or not informed articles on it and it stuck even though its been proven otherwise

brontosauruses? dinosaurs?

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zebatov posted...

Chinese food has tons of it. Its just salt, basically.

Monosodium glutamate (MSG), also known as sodium glutamate, is the sodium salt of glutamic acid, one of the most abundant naturally occurring non-essential amino acids. Glutamic acid is found naturally in tomatoes, grapes, cheese, mushrooms and other foods. MSG is used in the food industry as a flavor enhancer with an umami taste that intensifies the meaty, savory flavor of food, as naturally occurring glutamate does in foods such as stews and meat soups.

Uhh, the fact that Glutamate is naturally occurring doesn't mean MSG is naturally occurring. That's not how chemicals work, to say nothing of the naturalistic fallacy you seem to be invoking there.

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adjl posted...

Uhh, the fact that Glutamate is naturally occurring doesn't mean MSG is naturally occurring. That's not how chemicals work, to say nothing of the naturalistic fallacy you seem to be invoking there.

so you believe that msg isn't safe to eat?

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JebronLames posted...

brontosauruses? dinosaurs?

brontosauruses never existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoEE2FrVGo0

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are you serious dude? where did you get that video from?

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JebronLames posted...

are you serious dude? where did you get that video from?

Dude it has been well known for a long time. Some dude faked it to try to get credit for finding a dinosaur, did you not pay attention in school?

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JebronLames posted...

so you believe that msg isn't safe to eat?

I have no strong feelings on it. I grew up avoiding it because my mother's sensitive to it (she's got a buttload of allergies), but even without her directly influencing my preferences that way, I tend to not be a fan of it as an artificial flavouring. Naturally umami foods are great and all, but sticking the flavour into stuff that I know shouldn't have it just ends up feeling incongruous to me.

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hypnox posted...

Dude it has been well known for a long time. Some dude faked it to try to get credit for finding a dinosaur, did you not pay attention in school?

so you just meant that one dinosaur? you're not like a dinosaur denying creationist?

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adjl posted...

I have no strong feelings on it. I grew up avoiding it because my mother's sensitive to it (she's got a buttload of allergies), but even without her directly influencing my preferences that way, I tend to not be a fan of it as an artificial flavouring. Naturally umami foods are great and all, but sticking the flavour into stuff that I know shouldn't have it just ends up feeling incongruous to me.

do you feel the same way about those famous artificial sweeteners?

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JebronLames posted...

so you just meant that one dinosaur? you're not like a dinosaur denying creationist?

Dude you need to take some English comprehension as well as science. Nowhere in my posts would suggest it is anything other than brontosauruses

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It just makes you very thirsty.

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Nope.

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There is literally no evidence that MSG is any worse for you then salt.

The idea that is has adverse effects on a large majority of the population was propaganda spread do discourage the purchase of foreign foods that had it.
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I do not think MSG is safe to eat nor any other artificial additives that are a constant present in our food.

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It is safe to eat

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I miss MSG.
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The salt comes from the naturally occurring acid, so please explain how that means the salt isnt also naturally occurring.

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A lot of things on Mickey Ds menu has MSG in it.

It's up to the individual, but I myself avoid it.. Ramen noodles, flavoured crackers, Doritos, canned soups are a no-no

Like an earlier poster pointed out, there hasnt been enough research either way, so why risk it

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crab battle

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JixHedgehog posted...

Like an earlier poster pointed out, there hasnt been enough research either way, so why risk it

There hasn't been enough research that water doesn't cause cancer, so why risk drinking water? We don't need research to tell us water is essential or the earth is real so why would you need research to tell you that naturally occuring salts we've eaten for centuries is fine?

You know what we also don't have? Any cases of an allergic reaction to MSG despite the wild claims.
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hypnox posted...

brontosauruses never existed.

Technically... For a while... Though, if you look it up, it just says another name for the Apatosaurus. Which is kind of is since it was made from that... So, the long necked dinosaur existed. But it was called something else. And had a different head... But...

hypnox posted...

Dude it has been well known for a long time. Some dude faked it to try to get credit for finding a dinosaur, did you not pay attention in school?

Depending on when and where you went to school, it may not have been taught. Though, I heard it does exist again. Not sure how credible it is since Im doing a full investigation. But here are some links...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-brontosaurus-is-back1/

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/animals/a14948/the-brontosaurus-is-back/

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/4/7/brontosaurus-reclassified-as-separate-genus.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/Science/2015/0407/Is-the-Brontosaurus-really-back

It sort of reminds me of the whole pterodactyl/pterosaurs mix up. Though, in those cases, I dont think it was faked. But an actual mistake... And more of a naming issue. Or how the Sabertooth tiger was the Sabertooth Cat...
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High sodium diets, whether it's from sodium chloride or monosodium glutamate, are known to have adverse health effects.

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I'd say "mostly safe", like aspartame... some people will be a little intolerant, but for the most part it's ok

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SunWuKung420 posted...

High sodium diets, whether it's from sodium chloride or monosodium glutamate, are known to have adverse health effects.

If it's called a "High sodium diet", that sounds like you're eating a lot of it. Not like a normal amount. Too much of many healthy things could be bad for you. Technically, you can drink too much water. as well...
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JixHedgehog posted...

A lot of things on Mickey Ds menu has MSG in it.

It's up to the individual, but I myself avoid it.. Ramen noodles, flavoured crackers, Doritos, canned soups are a no-no

Like an earlier poster pointed out, there hasnt been enough research either way, so why risk it

https://health.usnews.com /health-news/blogs/eat-run/articles/2018-10-10/ scientists-have-known-msg-is-safe-for-decades-why-dont-most-americans? context=amp

I had to add 3 spaces

msg is safe and mostly us food illiterate americans think it isnt

we also chug sugar free sodas like no tomorrow despite research showing artificial sweeteners can be harmful so lol

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LinkPizza posted...

If it's called a "High sodium diet", that sounds like you're eating a lot of it. Not like a normal amount. Too much of many healthy things could be bad for you. Technically, you can drink too much water. as well...

A fast food diet is a high sodium diet though.

Any time someone makes that dumbass and failed death by over water intake analogy (which link doesn't need to worry about since he doesn't drink water)...
https://i.imgur.com/9cT0rYP.gifv

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OMG THERE ARE MSG'S IN MY FOOD!?

*Eats three packs of ramen noodles*

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SunWuKung420 posted...

A fast food diet is a high sodium diet though.

Any time someone makes that dumbass and failed death by over water intake analogy (which link doesn't need to worry about since he doesn't drink water)...

When did he mention a fast food diet? Or anybody, for that reason? I thought the question was about MSG. He didnt ask if it was ok to have a fast diet. He asked if MSG was safe to eat. Eating one sandwich from McDonalds doesnt mean you have a full fast food diet. And you can use the water analogy, because it still works. So how about you zip it?
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

no you shouldnt eat video games

Nor Mobile Suit Gundams or any Mobile Suits for that matter...

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LinkPizza posted...

When did he mention a fast food diet? Or anybody, for that reason? I thought the question was about MSG. He didnt ask if it was ok to have a fast diet. He asked if MSG was safe to eat. Eating one sandwich from McDonalds doesnt mean you have a full fast food diet. And you can use the water analogy, because it still works. So how about you zip it?

This topic is about a McDonald's food product, aka, fast food. Considering that one chicken sandwich is over 50% of the recommended daily sodium intake, it's a high sodium food. Add french fries and in one meal you've eaten all the sodium you should for the day. Not drinking a healthy amount of water daily, makes that level of sodium intake worse.

As far as the water analogy goes, the only non- drowning water related deaths, are extremely rare, while health problems related to high sodium diets are extremely common. The analogy doesn't work.

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MSG is fine. The whole Chinese food thing was born out of racism. At the time MSG had widespread use, not just Chinese Food. But of course, it was only the Chinese food that anyone every experienced this bullshit syndrome from.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

I miss MSG.

You can find it in grocery stores here in the U.S. One brand that it's sold under is Ac'cent flavor enhancer. It's just a can of MSG.


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Bugmeat posted...

MSG is fine. The whole Chinese food thing was born out of racism. At the time MSG had widespread use, not just Chinese Food. But of course, it was only the Chinese food that anyone every experienced this bullshit syndrome from.

You can find it in grocery stores here in the U.S. One brand that it's sold under is Ac'cent flavor enhancer. It's just a can of MSG.

yeah you might be right, sad but true. Did any other food come under fire for msg besides chinese food?

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While growing up we would avoid foods with MSG because my mom would have an allergic reaction to it and her legs would swell up.

I remember a rumor going around that MSG caused cancer. Though that was never proven.

As an adult, I have no problems eating it, but I do try to avoid high sodium foods when I can.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

This topic is about a McDonald's food product, aka, fast food. Considering that one chicken sandwich is over 50% of the recommended daily sodium intake, it's a high sodium food. Add french fries and in one meal you've eaten all the sodium you should for the day. Not drinking a healthy amount of water daily, makes that level of sodium intake worse.

As far as the water analogy goes, the only non- drowning water related deaths, are extremely rare, while health problems related to high sodium diets are extremely common. The analogy doesn't work.

Nobody said it wasnt a high sodium food. But one sandwich doesnt make it a high sodium diet. And thats even if they get fries. And they might get water. Having fast food one day is just that. A diet happens over time. Even something like a weekly diet or so.

It does matter if its rare or not. The fact that it can happen is what matters. So, it does work. As the analogy wasnt how often death happens. But that it can be bad to have too much of anything. So, yeah. It does work...
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LinkPizza posted...

It does matter if its rare or not. The fact that it can happen is what matters. So, it does work. As the analogy wasnt how often death happens. But that it can be bad to have too much of anything. So, yeah. It does work...

It in fact matters greatly. The average person does not need to worry about drinking so much water they will die, since the amount needed is extraordinary. But, the average person does need worry about how much sodium is in their diet, especially if they eat like you, and living of fast and over processed foods which are ladened with sodium.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

It in fact matters greatly. The average person does not need to worry about drinking so much water they will die, since the amount needed is extraordinary. But, the average person does need worry about how much sodium is in their diet, especially if they eat like you, and living of fast and over processed foods which are ladened with sodium.

It doesnt matter. Because Im not comparing how many casualties each has. Im comparing the fact that too much of it can be bad. And please dont act like you know my whole diet, as you dont...
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LinkPizza posted...

It doesnt matter. Because Im not comparing how many casualties each has. Im comparing the fact that too much of it can be bad.

Sodium-related deaths are at 1.65 million a year in the U.S.

Water toxicity deaths per year are less than 1.

They are not comparable, by any statistical means.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

This topic is about a McDonald's food product, aka, fast food. Considering that one chicken sandwich is over 50% of the recommended daily sodium intake, it's a high sodium food. Add french fries and in one meal you've eaten all the sodium you should for the day. Not drinking a healthy amount of water daily, makes that level of sodium intake worse.

Recommended sodium intake is highly dependent on water intake. It is an issue of balance so if you double your sodium intake, you can double your water intake. As it happens, drinks in general count toward your water intake, so drinking 2 2 litre bottles of coke zero would zero it out, despite what your poor nutritional knowledge tells you.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Sodium-related deaths are at 1.65 million a year in the U.S.

Water toxicity deaths per year are less than 1.

They are not comparable, by any statistical means.

And? As I said, Im not comparing the number of deaths. Im comparing the fact that too much of either can cause death. You can keep finding the number of deaths. But that wont change the fact that both can cause death. Which is the only thing I was comparing. Which means all your facts mean nothing unless you can prove that too much water cant cause death. But its been proven that too much water can cause death. Meaning that no matter what you say, the analogy will always work...
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Lol at link fear mongering water. What a fucking joke.

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TigerTycoon posted...

There is literally no evidence that MSG is any worse for you then salt.

The idea that is has adverse effects on a large majority of the population was propaganda spread do discourage the purchase of foreign foods that had it.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Lol at link fear mongering water. What a fucking joke.

Im not fear lingering water. But keep trolling, Sunny! Youre good at it.
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