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transience
01/10/20 7:53:05 PM
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I see that a remake is winning this year's GOTY and that two other remakes are in 4th and 5th. this is probably going to be the least popular contest yet since everyone still left on this site is so apathetic to anything resembling a new video game.

what's the consensus on GOTD? probably a battle between Mario, Zelda and Smash since everything else has fallen off so hard..? so that's.. Mario Odyssey or Galaxy 2, Breath of the Wild and Smash 4/Ultimate?

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FFDragon
01/10/20 7:54:19 PM
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In RE2's defense, it's not really a remake so much as a complete reimagining.

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transience
01/10/20 7:54:56 PM
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totally agree - but you and I both know that the only reason it's doing well here is because it's a game from the glory years.

(also, hey there)

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LeonhartFour
01/10/20 7:55:58 PM
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transience posted...
this is probably going to be the least popular contest yet

hey now it won't be worse than Years...!

and BotW is a prohibitive favorite, perhaps the biggest contest favorite in years, I'd say

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LeonhartFour
01/10/20 7:56:42 PM
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also I wouldn't be shocked if Smash 4 doesn't even make the contest like how Brawl didn't make the 2015 contest

there's zero reason to care about that game anymore

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GANON1025
01/10/20 7:57:17 PM
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The only people who have played the original RE2 are over 65 years old, anyone voting for it here probably played the remake first.

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FFDragon
01/10/20 7:58:08 PM
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(sup)

I don't disagree. It had a built in floor way higher than other games, and was good enough to pick up way more.

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transience
01/10/20 7:58:14 PM
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I'd feel better about BOTW if people still played video games here - I almost wonder if an older game would do a little better because at least people felt something about video games earlier in the decade. but yeah it probably cleans up anyway because Final Fantasy bombed an entire decade and Skyrim and Witcher and whatever else don't have staying power. maybe Mass Effect 2 has a chance, but then it got demolished last time around.

maybe FF7 remake coming out during the contest does something.


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ninkendo
01/10/20 7:58:39 PM
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Anyone feel free to nominate any of my TOP 15 FAVORITE GAMES OF THE DECADE
1. Xenoblade Chronicles
2. Red Dead Redemption
3. Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age
4. Super Mario Odyssey
5. Dark Souls
6. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
7. Metal Gear Solid V
8. The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure
9. PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds
10. Resident Evil 2
11. Mega Man 11
12. Yakuza 5
13. Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA
14. NieR: Automata
15. Mortal Kombat (2011)

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fortybelowsummer
01/10/20 7:58:45 PM
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Breath of the Wild will win but as always it's about the journey not the destination lads

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GANON1025
01/10/20 8:00:10 PM
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transience posted...
I'd feel better about BOTW if people still played video games here - I almost wonder if an older game would do a little better because at least people felt something about video games earlier in the decade.


,,, What?

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LeonhartFour
01/10/20 8:00:59 PM
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transience posted...
I'd feel better about BOTW if people still played video games here - I almost wonder if an older game would do a little better because at least people felt something about video games earlier in the decade.

Maybe, but I don't know what else it would be. I don't see Skyrim winning on this site when all the chips are down unless it gets a rally. Most of the site owns a Switch though, so I imagine people have played BotW.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/20 8:03:42 PM
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but yeah I honestly don't even know what to nominate myself

I came up with ten games but I don't really feel strongly about anything that will actually do well here

but considering how diluted this field will be anything's possible

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CaptainOfCrush
01/10/20 8:04:31 PM
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fortybelowsummer posted...
Breath of the Wild will win but as always it's about the journey not the destination lads
An elegant way of expressing why BotW is so popular in the first place.

Also, if Allen takes the same anti-rally measures he did for the last contest, the only game I see with a plausible shot at the favorite is Skyrim. It keeps getting re-released and was easily the most popular game from 2010-2016. Other than that, I agree with Leon. We're probably not getting a rally-threat, which means BotW enters this as the huge heavy.

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transcience
01/10/20 8:05:05 PM
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yeah, I guess my thinking on BOTW is only in relation to other games that people care about. like, put it against Majora or another classic that people played as kids and I bet BOTW gets worked. its like the old Tetris argument where it would fold against anything decent. but since that kind of game cant exist in this tournament, itll probably double everything outside of Smash.

I guess we should nominate Tetris 99 or Tetris Effect

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transcience
01/10/20 8:09:43 PM
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I guess Undertale could legitimately be a top 5 game in this thing

it might be the second most likely game to win it all? that fanbase could still mobilize fairly easily and it would take a small breeze to topple this tournament

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Shaduln
01/10/20 8:11:16 PM
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LusterSoldier
01/10/20 8:13:45 PM
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transience posted...
I'd feel better about BOTW if people still played video games here - I almost wonder if an older game would do a little better because at least people felt something about video games earlier in the decade. but yeah it probably cleans up anyway because Final Fantasy bombed an entire decade and Skyrim and Witcher and whatever else don't have staying power. maybe Mass Effect 2 has a chance, but then it got demolished last time around.


Skyrim still had serious strength in BGE 2015 and while we're going to be at least 4 years removed from our last Games Contest, it shouldn't be enough for Skyrim to simply fall off a cliff.
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LusterSoldier
01/10/20 8:16:12 PM
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transcience posted...
yeah, I guess my thinking on BOTW is only in relation to other games that people care about. like, put it against Majora or another classic that people played as kids and I bet BOTW gets worked.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7610-

You're trying to claim BOTW gets worked by Majora's Mask when we already have that poll result showing it can hang with some other top tier Zelda games not named A Link to the Past or Ocarina of Time.
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CaptainOfCrush
01/10/20 8:19:04 PM
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I'm chucking at a dartboard here, but I'd guess Undertale might be... fringe top ten at best without a rally? Absolutely nothing caught a meaningful rally during the last Character Battle, and this was despite numerous attempts to rally every fucking entrant, including (correct me if I'm wrong) Sans, who got destroyed by Pac-Man.

I know 2013 and 2015 left us shell-shocked, but it's been almost five years since that last games contest, and based on the two contests since then, I really feel Allen wants that rally-door to remain closed. I'll be predicting this bracket with the assumption that zero rally attempts gain traction.

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FFDragon
01/10/20 8:19:57 PM
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BotW gets rocked by Majora's for real though.

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LusterSoldier
01/10/20 8:21:42 PM
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FFDragon posted...
BotW gets rocked by Majora's for real though.


What makes you think that when it already beat Majora in this poll?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/7610-
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transcience
01/10/20 8:21:52 PM
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yeah im with you on the rally front. its more that the last contest was pitting characters from the glory years against chumps like Sans and this one is nothing but chumps. Id like to hear the names of 3 games that would be in the sites top 50.

(that zelda poll means nothing)

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LeonhartFour
01/10/20 8:22:23 PM
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because those polls are not indicative of actual contest strength

see: Link to the Past winning that poll

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Ngamer64
01/10/20 8:22:56 PM
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Actually I think Skyrim and Witcher III have held up remarkably well... but BotW is just on a whole different level.


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LeonhartFour
01/10/20 8:23:38 PM
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transcience posted...
Id like to hear the names of 3 games that would be in the sites top 50.

BOTW, Smash Ultimate, and Skyrim!

Maybe Odyssey...? Mass Effect 2...?

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transcience
01/10/20 8:24:04 PM
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Witcher 3 will be interesting to see. that game is in the middle of a renaissance. you could argue for it being #2 in this contest though its a lot easier to just pick Nintendo and not worry about anything else.

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LusterSoldier
01/10/20 8:24:23 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
because those polls are not indicative of actual contest strength

see: Link to the Past winning that poll


LFF due to the presence of all the 3D Zeldas would explain Link to the Past winning that poll. The only possible case that could be made for Majora > BotW would be if Majora was being hurt by the presence of OoT in that poll.
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FFDragon
01/10/20 8:25:15 PM
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You're asking why a like 12 way poll with rampant leeching means nothing in a one on one setting?

Be better than this, Luster.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/20 8:25:17 PM
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the point is that it's not something we should use as predictive

we've known this ever since the Yoshi/Bowser fiasco in SC2K3

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transcience
01/10/20 8:26:55 PM
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youre higher on Smash Ultimate than I am, though I do kinda feel like people would vote for anything with Smash on the title because theyre all largely the same. Skyrim... maybe, but I would take any game from the glory years with a notable fanbase over it. Metroid Prime, Mario RPG, Metal Gear 1-3, 6 different FFs, etc.

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Team Rocket Elite
01/10/20 8:27:51 PM
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Unrallied Undertale isn't that strong:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6204-best-of-2015-game-of-the-year

Rallied Undertale can obviously win the whole thing.
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CaptainOfCrush
01/10/20 8:28:53 PM
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BotW would storm well beyond the top 50 on like... any major vg site. There's a difference between flavor of the month (or year) and tons of gamers waxing poetic about a game, saying crap like "this is the first game that's recaptured that sense of magic since I was a kid."

Beyond that and Skyrim (and possibly ME2, Smash Ultimate, Odyssey?), things take a real tumble, but I'm not too worried. It's not like there was THAT much firepower in the last GotD, and it wound up being one of the best contests we've ever had.


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skullbone
01/10/20 8:30:00 PM
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Does Undertale even get nominated without a rally? I kinda doubt it honestly

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CaptainOfCrush
01/10/20 8:30:10 PM
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I see Leon and I are sharing the same shadow today

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WarThaNemesis2
01/10/20 8:30:35 PM
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I know Games =/= Characters, but something happened to turn Zelda from....Zelda to beating everyone except Link, because let's face it, if it weren't for the second chance bracket, she beats Cloud without much of a sweat.

That something was Breath of the Wild. It rolls this contest barring rallies.

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LusterSoldier
01/10/20 8:33:03 PM
#37:


skullbone posted...
Does Undertale even get nominated without a rally? I kinda doubt it honestly


I think it shouldn't have any problem getting into a contest like this, assuming a bracket of at least 128 games. The average game strength in this contest is going to be even lower than the last GotD.
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AxemRedRanger
01/10/20 8:34:21 PM
#38:


skullbone posted...
Does Undertale even get nominated without a rally? I kinda doubt it honestly
it will for sure. Besides people who legitimately like it, those hoping it wins in order to make people mad again by themselves would probably be enough to get it in.

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transience
01/10/20 8:42:02 PM
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I have maybe the same opinions but for different reasons.

CaptainOfCrush posted...
BotW would storm well beyond the top 50 on like... any major vg site. There's a difference between flavor of the month (or year) and tons of gamers waxing poetic about a game, saying crap like "this is the first game that's recaptured that sense of magic since I was a kid."

I 100% agree with you on both a personal and professional level. Breath of the Wild is amazing, as I've expounded in the last couple of weeks. but the difference here is that I don't think this website is a major vg site at all. it's become the nichiest of the niche, for people who like old things the way they were. so while it is the best, it's more that everything else is kind of the worst.

WarThaNemesis2 posted...
I know Games =/= Characters, but something happened to turn Zelda from....Zelda to beating everyone except Link, because let's face it, if it weren't for the second chance bracket, she beats Cloud without much of a sweat.

That something was Breath of the Wild. It rolls this contest barring rallies.

and that's why I think this comment, while correct, is misleading. yeah, Breath of the Wild is a killer. but it's really only a killer because nothing else moved the needle at all.

it's kind of a pointless debate though because nothing will touch Breath of the Wild and those other games aren't in the competition. it's like how we got the impression that Majora's Mask was a killer after GOTD but that was mostly because the top tiers sat that contest out. the only difference is that this contest is one rung lower on the totem pole and we're going to look at Majora like we used to look at Ocarina in comparison to the strength we're going to see here.

sorry to be a negative nancy. it's good to see people still care though! I didn't know if any of us honestly cared about something like this, so that's good that we can at least work up the spirit to disagree.


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X_Dante_X
01/10/20 8:44:03 PM
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i made sure to nominate skyward sword, so we can have more zelda

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LeonhartFour
01/10/20 8:48:25 PM
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we should have a GOTD1 winner vs. GOTD2 winner bonus poll after the contest

that would be fun to see

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swordz9
01/10/20 8:48:32 PM
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BotW > Smash finals unless for some reason Smash is on the same half in which case probably BotW > Odyssey finals if Mario isnt also fed to BotW
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LordoftheMorons
01/10/20 8:59:56 PM
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I would be shocked if BotW lost to an unrallied game

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Team Rocket Elite
01/10/20 9:02:05 PM
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Majora's Mask really is one of the strongest games on the site. After GotD1 a lot of people thought it sinificantly overperformed due OoT not being around. But MM held up well even against Lttp. I don't think there were many that expected more than that.
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01/10/20 9:05:23 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
Unrallied Undertale isn't that strong:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6204-best-of-2015-game-of-the-year

Rallied Undertale can obviously win the whole thing.
worth noting that Undertale at that point was only at about 500k sold - it exploded in popularity immediately after that

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transience
01/10/20 9:07:23 PM
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you might be right - my memory is the GOTD struggling with Super Metroid. SM ended up being better than anyone expected but that was a reminder that the 90s are just that much better than the 00s.

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LeonhartFour
01/10/20 9:09:02 PM
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Yeah, Majora's legit, although I think LttP has weakened a bit over the years for whatever the reason (except in these POTDs where it somehow shines like FFVI does in FF polls).

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Paratroopa1
01/10/20 9:09:36 PM
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Hot take: no game will get more than 40% against BOTW

non-hot take: I have no idea what undertale is going to do and you don't either
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LeonhartFour
01/10/20 9:10:51 PM
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random question

which FF game is the strongest one from this decade and could it somehow actually be FFXIV?

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X_Dante_X
01/10/20 9:11:38 PM
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it actually is ffxiv lmao

edit: oh X/ X-2 remaster is in the database, wtf

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