Board 8 > Ol Punny plays Pokemon Soul Silver for the first time *SPOILERS*

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Heroic Bigpun
01/27/20 11:12:52 AM
#301:


Can dive balls be purchased? I have tons of net and lure balls

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Reg
01/27/20 11:26:47 AM
#302:


Nope. Can't get them at all in HGSS besides trading for pokemon holding them.
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Mewtwo59
01/27/20 11:31:17 AM
#303:


They can't be bought in DPP either, and the only way to get them is an NPC with a 25% chance of giving it to you when you show him the Pokmon he wants. If you play mostly at night, Dusk Balls are just as effective.
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Heroic Bigpun
01/27/20 12:05:37 PM
#304:


They're both down to red and paralyzed

This is a pain

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Punnyz
01/27/20 12:42:31 PM
#305:


what hope do I have when an ultra ball doesn't even shake before breaking

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Mewtwo59
01/27/20 1:00:47 PM
#306:


Use Quick Balls. They only work on the first turn but you only get one turn so it doesn't matter. You can buy them at the Safari Zone.
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Heroic Bigpun
01/27/20 1:07:05 PM
#307:


Also too bad about the dive ball thing.

It would've been funny to catch entei in one

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Heroic Bigpun
01/27/20 1:22:41 PM
#308:


So here are my two hopes for Kanto. Number one, I hope all of the gym leaders are the same levels as they would be in Generation 1. I'm just some foreign God that comes and lays the land flat. The number two, I hope that building in Vermilion city is done

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Punnyz
01/27/20 3:04:23 PM
#309:


Ookay I dunno what to do anymore

I know flying anywhere resets their positions, but I used to be able to fly somewhere, and if they reset near the town, I was able to trek over to where they are and fight them

NOW if I travel from one route to another, they automatically reset. I can no longer get to them, I think all I can do now is just hope they spawn on top of me as I'm traveling

what the fuck

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Punnyz
01/27/20 3:26:47 PM
#310:


*By some godless miracle I catch up to Entei*

*Quick Ball*

*Doesn't rock once before it breaks*

HHHHHRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG

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Punnyz
01/27/20 3:28:21 PM
#311:


so I looked it up

theres just two tiers of status effects altering catch rates

Poison, Burn, and Paralyze are bottom

Frozen and Sleep are way better apparently

I figured with THE IMPLICATION OF NOT BEING ABLE TO FUCKING MOVE Paralyze was better than FUCKING Poison


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Punnyz
01/27/20 3:31:24 PM
#312:


I still hit B before the pokeball opens

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Punnyz
01/27/20 3:45:42 PM
#313:


Yea Quick balls ain't workin

I caught up to Raidog

they're not rocking

Now I acknowledge the visual representation of a Pokeball failing may not have anything to do with the behind the scenes calculations

afterall, how could you show "the calculations say no, but like, you were close!" when its number crunching?
You land on the mark or you don't

but still man, it feels bad when that ball doesn't rock lol

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Punnyz
01/27/20 3:53:13 PM
#314:


Caught up to Raidog

Quckball

no rocks

T_T

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RyoCaliente
01/27/20 4:03:16 PM
#315:


Leave Johto, I think you can buy Dusk Balls once you boarded the SS Aqua, the catch rate on those at night (or in a cave) is ridiculous.

Also, congrats on your win. Umbreon knocked my team out on my first run. Then my Ambipom used Taunt and it couldn't Double Team anymore, hehehe. Then I just cried against Lance's Gyarados for an hour before beating him.

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Punnyz
01/27/20 4:08:14 PM
#316:


I seriously wish I was recording this somehow

That Gyarados run had me actually screaming

It was the dream, man

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Punnyz
01/28/20 1:18:46 AM
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Punnyz
01/28/20 4:06:25 PM
#318:


I've taken a break from the dogs because today is Tuesday

Bug catching

but...now its a lot harder >_>

and yes, I've been doing as the kids call Save Scumming

I catch a Scyther or Pinsir, I lose to a weedle

if I catch a Weedle, I lose to a Scyther

I dunno what to do anymore >_>

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RyoCaliente
01/28/20 4:12:02 PM
#319:


BCN is down to the max health of a Pokemon and then level shenanigans and I think you can get outstatted as well if you're unlucky.

Do Pokathlon, it's a lot easier if you are decent at the minigames. I don't know how much the difficulty increases after the E4, but the only one that wanted to make me stab my eyes out was Skill (and maybe Power, but mostly Skill).

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Punnyz
01/28/20 5:51:31 PM
#320:


you just gave me the ticket

catch an evolved form (or a scyther or pinsir) WITHOUT hurting it. I take midler with me and she puts them to sleep

immediately retire

I win every time

after 4 times I got my shiny stone. I got my Togekiss :D

I can't fucking BELIEVE I had to wait til AFTER the elite four to get this guy

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Mewtwo59
01/28/20 5:55:47 PM
#321:


Quick Balls have a 4x multiplier on the first turn while Dusk Balls have a 3.5x multiplier at night or in caves. Ultra Balls only have a 2x multiplier, so you're just getting very unlucky.
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Heroic Bigpun
01/28/20 6:17:56 PM
#322:


Story of my life

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RyoCaliente
01/28/20 6:28:48 PM
#323:


Togekiss is such a battle upgrade over Togetic. Way speedier, hits much harder...if you have a Heart Scale, go to the Move Relearner in Blackthorn and give it Air Slash for special STAB!

And it's got a great sound too.

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Heroic Bigpun
01/28/20 9:27:24 PM
#324:


See? Couldve came in handy for the e4

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 11:47:28 AM
#325:


I decided to tie up a few loose ends. I went and caught that natu. I explored Union Cave while I was at it, I found a whole new basement level but it leads to a dead end so I don't know what the point was. I remember between two of the town's, I think one of them was mahogany oh, there's a cave that you can only get to by surfing. I explored that and it's a part of Mount Magmar. They started exploring it, I needed waterfall for one part of it. And I found a karate King who was willing to give me a Hitmonchan or Hitmonlee but I needed an open spot on my team. How the goddamn hell was I supposed to know this going in? But just as well, because guess what? There's some goddamn rock climb sections here? Which means I have to come here again anyways. I may as well just wait because I'm not even going to use that fighting Pokemon anyways. One thing I didn't update on was I realize my Haunter has a move called me look, it prevents people from running. But my Haunter is level 15 so I grinded him up to level 30. I finally caught the damn dogs. I threw at least 7 Dusk Balls and then each. I think I really am ready for Kanto now

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Reg
01/29/20 11:50:10 AM
#326:


Did they remove Roar from the dog movepools in HGSS?
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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 12:01:38 PM
#327:


The post was brought to you by my shoddy speech to text

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 12:01:54 PM
#328:


Reg posted...
Did they remove Roar from the dog movepools in HGSS?
Iunno

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Mewtwo59
01/29/20 12:13:07 PM
#329:


They still have it, so you got pretty lucky there.
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RyoCaliente
01/29/20 12:20:31 PM
#330:


Heroic Bigpun posted...
I found a whole new basement level but it leads to a dead end so I don't know what the point was.

On Fridays, you can find a Lapras there.

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 12:35:03 PM
#331:


Mewtwo59 posted...
They still have it, so you got pretty lucky there.
I would've lost my God damn mind if they did that

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 12:35:31 PM
#332:


RyoCaliente posted...
On Fridays, you can find a Lapras there.
.....does anybody in the game tell you this

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 12:40:51 PM
#333:


So ....I'm toying with the idea about changing my team up. And I mean like half my team

I'll probably keep grater, togekiss, and Bellossom.

On the fence is Ford

Gyarados and steelix would get the definite bench.

Of course, scizor is popping up again. Since I have a murkrow, I was thinking Honchkrow again!

Id have to decide on a third and possibly a forth.

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Reg
01/29/20 12:45:36 PM
#334:


Heroic Bigpun posted...
.....does anybody in the game tell you this
There's a trainer who says "Every Friday, you can hear POKEMON roars from deep inside the cave.", yes.

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 12:49:55 PM
#335:


Steel loses to fighting and fire right?

What does it beat?

And What does dark lose to

Dark beats psychic and ghost iirc

I remember not having lots of proper answers to lots of types, like dark, ice and steel.

Maybe I should get a fire pokemon

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 12:58:22 PM
#336:


See I'm starting to think Honchkrow and scizor would be redundant

They would both be anti psychic. And honestly Grater has been a decent anti psychic anyways because they rarely have the tools to destroy a water type.

There's no real answer for anti dragons. No matter what you do, the dragons move pool is so big that they can counter you. They can have fire to beat Ice types, and they can have thunder to beat water type with ice attacks, since they did just that against grater and zang.

Also, I doubt id be running into THAT many more dragons now that I beat the Dragon gym and lance. So I'm probably okay not worrying about it

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 1:07:37 PM
#337:


If I'm going to give up Steelix, I also have to re-evaluate my ground type. I was thinking Piloswine but like I just mentioned earlier, I don't think I will be needing ice as much anymore.

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 1:14:10 PM
#338:


.....I also need someone who can surf

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 1:27:58 PM
#339:


Aw fuck whirlpool too

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Reg
01/29/20 1:49:17 PM
#340:


Heroic Bigpun posted...
Aw fuck whirlpool too
Teach Surf/Waterfall/Whirlpool to Gyarados and bring it in as needed?
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Punnyz
01/29/20 1:52:45 PM
#341:


but I'll don't know when its needed and backtracking pisses me the hell off

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Punnyz
01/29/20 1:55:07 PM
#342:


Yea, I hate backtracking and having to remember places where I have to come back when I get a new ability or item

Some places its fine, like Megaman X and Zelda, but I fucking HATE metroidvanias.

I'm not saying this game is Metroidvania, but there are some places with Rock Climb near the beginning of the game. I'm just gonna have to walk the whole game over on foot to find everything


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Punnyz
01/29/20 1:57:30 PM
#343:


I was trying to keep Grater as legit as possible. He knows waterfall because its actually a viable move.

and hes pretty versatile with Bite and Ice Fang.

I don't want to drown his ass with these water attacks he can't really use

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Punnyz
01/29/20 2:01:39 PM
#344:


I want to keep Grater cause hes my starter. Bellossom because grass type and my cutter, but also because she handles the catching of pokemon with Sleep Powder. And I want to keep Togekiss because I JUST GOT HIM.

Electric is really good too, I was thinking about Keeping Ford, but once I think about it, Its just Anti Water and Bird. I have those through other means. HMMMMM

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RyoCaliente
01/29/20 2:39:57 PM
#345:


Heroic Bigpun posted...
Steel loses to fighting and fire right?

What does it beat?

And What does dark lose to

Dark beats psychic and ghost iirc

I remember not having lots of proper answers to lots of types, like dark, ice and steel.

Maybe I should get a fire pokemon

Steel is immune to poison and super effective against...Rock and Ice. Dark is weak to Bug and Fighting.

So Honchkrow is super-effective to it's two Dark weaknesses.

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 2:56:22 PM
#346:


I was close. If piloswine could surf, I was willing to compromise and teach whirlpool to grater

But pilo is a pino.

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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 3:14:55 PM
#347:


I've REALLY enjoyed graters versatility.

But If I get an ice and a dark pokemon...he won't really. ...NEED bite and ice fang anymore I guess

But also theres just something. ....WRONG with making your STARTER an HM whore


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Heroic Bigpun
01/29/20 5:03:42 PM
#348:


You know what. fuck it. Sorry grater but our team needs to be more diverse.

He's learning surf and whirlpool. He's going to keep waterfall and slash

Piloswine is gonna be in the team, he'll learn strength

Scizor will learn rock smash

Now deciding between honchkrow and houndoom.

Honchkrow is awesome in general. So stylish and fullof Swagger. But the thing is I already used him in my Platinum playthrough. And I would be having a second bird on my team. Houndoom would be beneficial because of this fire. I don't have a good answer for steel. I don't have a good answer for ice either but that one is more situational I think


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RyoCaliente
01/29/20 6:00:20 PM
#349:


Whirlpool is not necessary at all, only to get in the Dragon's Den, to the E4 the first time and the Whirl Islands. There's no need to teach it to have it on your team at all times. Same goes for Rock Smash really.

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TsunamiXXVIII
01/29/20 6:03:55 PM
#350:


Punnyz posted...
I've always used the cinnabar island/seafoam island trick to get what I wanted from the SZ in Gen 1

I cannot imagine anyone legit catching a Tauros/Chansey/Scyther through normal means

You mean a Tauros/Kangaskhan, right? I think I might've had even more trouble with Kangaskhan than I did with Tauros, though they're both ridiculous.

Chansey is only a problem if you're doing Yellow Version or the remakes. Red/Blue had them available in Cerulean Cave.

Scyther/Pinsir are available at the Game Corner if you have too much trouble getting them normally. Though I seem to remember catching Pinsir properly in Yellow, since they lowered its level in that game enough that you could procure one for Pika Cup in Stadium. (Which is not to say that you should, because Pinsir's movepool was ass for at least three generations or so. Maybe longer.)

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