Board 8 > Ol Punny plays Pokemon Soul Silver for the first time *SPOILERS*

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Considering Oddish doesn't get Defiant and that Defiant doesn't even exist in HGSS I would say that Oddish is fairly odd. >_>

so like, instead of shinies, I get this kind of shit

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Sorry, that was meant as a joke. Defiant is a new ability that was introduced in a later game. I got that you were referring to the characteristic.
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Flaffy (Ford) Lvl 27. Hardy Nature hates to lose

Wing Togepi (Benedict) Lvl 23 Gentle Nature Quick to Flee

Onix (rocky) Lvl 23 Hasty Nature Loves to eat

Croconaw (Grater) Lvl 25 Serious Nature Loves to thrash about

Drowzee (Ganeesh) Lvl 13. I dunno why shes on my team >_>

And right now Oddish Lvl 6


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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Sorry, that was meant as a joke. Defiant is a new ability that was introduced in a later game. I got that you were referring to the characteristic.

I already mentioned this is literally my third pokemon game ever, and I barely remember playing the 2nd one lol

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considering I'm making this big of a change to my team, I should probably do it right. I'm gonna go catch a few more.

I should probably mention if I ever get a Shiny, Its in my team. no matter what. It can be a dumbass Weedle idgaf

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when the hell do I get fly, god damn

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the abra I caught had a twisted spoon, I gave it to Benedict

I just saw a kid and she gave me a magnet


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if I give the pokeball guy multiple corns, does that contribute to one ball or does he make multiple at a time?

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HOLY SHIT I just ran into one of the dogs!

I paralyzed him but he ran

......did I just lose out on him?

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What else can I do one a sunday? I recall being told some stuff in-game but I can't remember

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Flaaffy is probably decent, neutral natures generally work for any in game 'Mon.

Togetic's nature actually makes his best base stat grow faster but he'll be weaker to physical attacks as a result. Still usable.

Onix is bad, especially if you eventually get Steelix. His nature raises Speed growth and lowers Defense growth, but Steelix's defense is his best stat and speed is his worst. Onix and Steelix just suck in general though.

Croconaw has a neutral nature and may have the best possible base attack modifier. Probably quite good!


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Punnyz posted...

HOLY SHIT I just ran into one of the dogs!

I paralyzed him but he ran

......did I just lose out on him?

Nah you can find him again later and IIRC the paralysis stays. They wander the map until you either kill them or capture them, and always run immediately unless you lock them down with status effects or an ability or move that prevents fleeing.

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Punnyz posted...

HOLY SHIT I just ran into one of the dogs!

I paralyzed him but he ran

......did I just lose out on him?

No. They always run away but you can just keep tracking them down

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Oh yeah and on the subject of natures you really don't have to worry about it for in game unless they're just utterly badly rolled and then it might be harder to use them.

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Punnyz posted...

if I give the pokeball guy multiple corns, does that contribute to one ball or does he make multiple at a time?

pls

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I honestly don't remember!

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1 Apricorn gives you 1 special Pokeball. I don't recall if you can give him more than 1 per day but if you can he should just give you a bunch of special Pokeballs when he is done.
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I'm pretty sure multiple apricorns = multiple balls.

Not 100% positive but like 95%.

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I think you've been able to give him more than one since Crystal, and he gives you the same amount that you give him.
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Oddish

Mild nature strong-willed

Quirky nature loves to eat

Rash nature somewhat vain

Docile nature alert to sounds

A cool the Magnemite I caught a long time ago has a metal coat

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I gave the ball Man 5 black nuts

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The Mild and Rash ones have increased Sp Att growth which is good but Mild has decreased Def growth and Rash decreased Sp Def growth. Both usable but might not be able to take hits well from whichever side doesn't grow as well.

Quirky and Docile are neutral natures that don't have increased or decreased growth in any stat. The Docile one may have the highest possible base Speed modifier though.

Of course we can't see the hidden stats so some of this is guesswork.

If it were me I'd probably roll with the Docile one.

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tagg

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Is that because it won't die so easily and it's more neutral? Well I appreciate you analyzing them

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Heroic Bigpun posted...

Is that because it won't die so easily and it's more neutral? Well I appreciate you analyzing them

Pretty much. If I was looking for an ideal Oddish nature for in game use I'd run Modest or Timid. Bold or Gentle are also good but more defensive. But with 24 natures and no way for you to currently manipulate what natures you're finding I'd settle for neutral.

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Also Leaf Stone evolves Oddish into Vileplume. To get a Bellossom, you need a Sun Stone, which you can get by winning the Bug Catching Contest in the National Park (Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday iirc) so you can grab it now. Evolving Togetic will only be possible in the post-game, however.


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So I have a Gloom now, and Flaaffy evolved. I think I'm going to solo The Ghost Gym with just Croconaw to get his experience off. He's the next one that should evolve

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RyoCaliente posted...

Also Leaf Stone evolves Oddish into Vileplume. To get a Bellossom, you need a Sun Stone, which you can get by winning the Bug Catching Contest in the National Park (Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday iirc) so you can grab it now. Evolving Togetic will only be possible in the post-game, however.

To add to this, you can save before you do it, and just save scum for the win, it's what I'd always do if I was using Bellossom. Pinsir or Scyther can usually win it for you IIRC.


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Oh and you want to save the Sun Stone for a while. Bellossom only learns two moves in Gen IV, Magical Leaf at LV23 and Leaf Storm at LV53. ML never misses but only has 60 base power, not really worth it. Leaf Storm is very strong, 140 BP with 90% accuracy but lowers your special attack by two stages with each use.

On the other hand Gloom learns a few more moves on the way up, including Moonlight (LV41) and Giga Drain (LV47) for healing yourself. Then it gets Petal Dance at LV53. 90BP, locks you into the move for 2-3 turns, afterwards the Pokemon is confused. It's also Bellossom's signature move, I usually go with it for that reason alone.

So you have a choice of what you eventually want the main attacking move to be. I'd at least get to 41 for Moonlight. Giga Drain is a TM so no need to go for it unless you're going to 53. .

You could also dump both Leaf Storm and Petal Dance and use the Energy Ball TM for a grass move. 80BP with no downsides. Or do a setup moveset with Sunny Day and Solarbeam TMs.

Bellossom/Vileplume don't have the greatest moveset in Gen IV, you're pretty much going to run Grass move/Sludge Bomb/Moonlight/Filler. Usually my filler is Toxic if I'm not using Sunny Day/Solarbeam.

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If you're going to wait until level 40 to evolve your Gloom, you might as well just wait until you beat the Elite Four and buy the Sun Stone from the Pokeathlon on a Friday or Sunday.

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I'm also disappointed in only evolving toge post game

Can 2nd evolved toge learn fly?

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Yeah it can learn Fly.

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Thank god

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Also I did not realize raising bellossom would be such a pain in the ass. I just wanted her to be on my Johto team. It sounds like she would only be efficient once I beat the game or something

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Heroic Bigpun posted...

Also I did not realize raising bellossom would be such a pain in the ass. I just wanted her to be on my Johto team. It sounds like she would only be efficient once I beat the game or something

Yeah she'll be more of a Kanto thing, but Gloom is pretty fine for Johto.

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HGSS's decisions for the later evolutions of its Pokemon are... bizarre, to say the least.
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I just hope you appreciate the situation I'm in. I'm trying to use the Johto Pokemon because all I know is Kanto. But I was forced to use a Kanto Pokemon to eventually have a Johto Pokemon. But now my Kanto Pokemon can only be Johto in Kanto

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I think I'm going to actually do the worst possible outcome and just evolve bellossom as soon as I can. But undeniably Gloom is going to gain a few levels until then. So Blossom will not learn the early moves, and Gloom will not learn the later moves. My reasoning is that I'm going to to teach her cut any ways, I'm going to stick with stun Spore and sleep powder, along with mega drain. I don't really plan on saving technical machines so if I get a giga drain I might just use it on bellossom

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So unfortunately Croconaw was not able to solo the gym. He lost at the final Haunter. Even though he defeated Gengar. With this badge I am I able to use surf. So I went to Lake rage and I caught the Gyarados. I named him Zangief

https://youtu.be/BU2SVMyl2pg

He is the RED CYCLONE

Also I caught him in a pink love ball with a heart on it so he's kinda gay too like Zangief

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Gen II has the best new Pokemon, I pretty much love all of them, but the way they were made available and usable is baffling and dumb.

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Me and Lance of the Elite Four are currently storming a team rocket base. I ran into a scientist who had three magnemites and they took out my to anti electric Pokemon. Gloom and onyx. Maybe I need to reevaluate how to counter Electrics.

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Red Gyarados is now in my team. I have three level 30 Pokemon and the three others are their early twenties. The team rocket base is taking a long time because I decided to trigger every single trap on purpose so I can train up the three lacking ones

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So we cleared out the base. Not before having a double battle with Lance. This fight was annoying because Dragonite immediately got paralyzed by Arbok. And his Thunders kept missing. So he'd either misses attacks or get paralyzed. But they did knock out a few of my Pokemon because they were surprisingly strong. Every time that happened, Dragonite would miraculously pull through and kill them. So that means nobody would get the experience. Pain in the ass. He gave me the HM for whirlpool. I was seriously hoping he would give me fly already. When do I get fly. His Dragonite knew fly. I want fly god dammit . Now I need to clear out the gym before I leave. To my dismay it's an ice gym. I have no fire types and Onyx is the only one with a fighting attack. And he's a rock type. This ain't good

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You know Rock is actually super effective against Ice and its the Ground part that is weak to ice.

Steel also cracks ice.

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I don't have any steel attacks either. Man I need to consider evolving Onix soon. I need to know when he learns his steel attacks

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Heroic Bigpun posted...

Man I need to consider evolving Onix soon. I need to know when he learns his steel attacks

Looking at Serebii, it's Iron Tail at 41 as the only one learned via levelup.

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There is another route near Ecruteak where maybe there are some trainers you could use to level up.

Onix learns Iron Tail at level 41.

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Wild Magnemite hold the item you need to evolve Onix. That's the only way to get it before beating the Elite Four. You should've just picked up the Thief TM which will help you get it.
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Does Pun even have anything to trade with to evolve his Onix?

Heroic Bigpun posted...

A cool the Magnemite I caught a long time ago has a metal coat

Thats thr good news

The bad news is I had no idea you had to trade onix

Fuck

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