Current Events > Why does the goverment not want poors to buy hot food with snap money

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Want steak and lobster? Work and buy some and pay taxes
If you are that desperate for a handout that's fine, but it should be used responsibly for healthy foods that can be purchased in bulk and keep forna while.
No one should be used snap or food tickets for luxury items it's scamming the system. A system in which hard working people pay for your free luxury food

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Balrog0 posted...

why would their employer want to stop you?

Their employer doesnt really matter likely they wont be present to stop or allow it. But for legal reasons id assume theyd have it set as policy to not allow it.

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Their employer doesnt really matter likely they wont be present to stop or allow it. But for legal reasons id assume theyd have it set as policy to not allow it.

I don't see why you'd make that assumption, that's why I asked why you're making it. I don't think it's a legal issue.

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UIti posted...

Want steak and lobster? Work and buy some and pay taxes

lol extremely bad reading of this topic to date

also pretty hilarious that that john galt weirdo has me blocked. think it's from that time i called him a loser roleplaying as john galt online like 1000s of other delusional rand fanboys lmao

Malfunction posted...

lol extremely bad reading of this topic to date

Sorry I didn't bother reading all 100+ posts here where everyone is arguing about if people begging for tax payer handouts should be allowed 2 or 3 lobster tails a week

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doubling down!

UIti posted...

No one should be used snap or food tickets for luxury items it's scamming the system.

no it isnt, thats how the system is designed

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Malfunction posted...

also pretty hilarious that that john galt weirdo has me blocked. think it's from that time i called him a loser roleplaying as john galt online like 1000s of other delusional rand fanboys lmao

Sounds about right. One of the dudes recent posts was barely being able to afford a 90s used car. Trumpers projection is hilarious

Balrog0 posted...

no it isnt, thats how the system is designed

Ya I'm sure the officials who put it in place wants the recipients of the handouts to blow it on steak and lobster instead of being responsible. It isnt surprising though as irresponsibility is generally what is needed to enter the program

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shockthemonkey posted...

This is a very bizarre comparison.

Yeah I'm a bit lost

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Certain parts of America tend to get off on labeling anyone who uses public assistance and has a *gasp* iPhone as leeches anyway, so I Stan for anyone who games the food stamp system. I remember an old high school friend would sell me 100 worth of stamps for like 60. Never ate so much lobster

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projections and ad hominem got people blindly speculating like "I'll bet virtue signallers don't blah blah blah"

you can tell when a rotten person is struggling to comprehend that not everybody is as toxic and ignorant as them.
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oh yeah I've bought steak with food stamps

mostly rice and eggs though

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Balrog0 posted...

I don't see why you'd make that assumption, that's why I asked why you're making it. I don't think it's a legal issue.

To be fair in not familiar with snap or whatever. I assumed it was something like ebt that the government sets up

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metallica846 posted...

Id rather that than another 400 billion on a failed rocket program that we change every 5 years. Trillions spent on 2 wars since 9/11 blah blah blah. People let that shit slide but cry about poor people eating.

It's not that we're "letting it slide". A lot of us are against the wars, but since some extremely powerful and influential people want the wars to happen, it's difficult to get anyone to listen to us or to make anything happen. On the other hand, there are politicians who do listen when it comes to welfare, and we actually have seen some stricter policies or even massive cuts to welfare programs as a result.

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Vice Versa Trump deserves the presidency! Hes rich! He paid for it fairly!

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mooreandrew58 posted...

To be fair in not familiar with snap or whatever. I assumed it was something like ebt that the government sets up

yeah SNAP is the most widely used EBT that I'm aware of

I'm just saying there's no reason for government to care about you microwaving your burrito at the establishment after you buy it. the rule really is intended to stop you from buying mcdonalds and stuff. if 7-11 is gonna let you cook your food at the establishment after you purchase it with SNAP, I don't think the government cares at all

I could be wrong though, thats one reason I asked, to learn

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DifferentialEquation posted...

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It's not that we're "letting it slide". A lot of us are against the wars, but since some extremely powerful and influential people want the wars to happen, it's difficult to get anyone to listen to us or to make anything happen. On the other hand, there are politicians who do listen when it comes to welfare, and we actually have seen some stricter policies or even massive cuts to welfare programs as a result.

What are you even trying to say?

We live in a country where it's citizens talk tough but won't do anything. We have enough guns and White men in America to stand up to the government and make them listen to war concerns. But that's not going to happen. It's too much of a hassle and a threat to the comfort provided.

Americans in general aren't willing to risk losing something just so somebody else can live a little better, even if they aren't actually even losing anything personally.

ITT you have people who can't live on their own trying to explain why other people struggling shouldn't be allowed a damned steak.
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metallica846 posted...

Well we cant do anything about one thing so

Everyone has a multitude of policies they'd like to see implemented. Not being able to get one of them done doesn't mean you give up on everything else.

Are you in favor of anything that hasn't been achieved such as universal healthcare? If so, then I guess you better not support any lesser policies according to your own reasoning.

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Lairen posted...

Vice Versa Trump deserves the presidency! Hes rich! He paid for it fairly!

lmao. there are Americans who feel like they can relate to him or they he can relate to them. enough to try to see themselves in him and forget their own financial situation long enough to fuck up a vote.
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Not seeing the issue.

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konokonohamaru posted...

It saddens me how some people think the poor should just be treated like shit and that they aren't allowed to have any enjoyment or make any choices until they get back on their feet

Just once I'd like to see one of these topics without a lot of people that act like any time they don't get things they want is an act of cruelty. It's punitive yes, but it's supposed to be. I've sen it with family and friends: with the right access to social programs you can find yourself eating better than some people that don't get any form of assistance. Not "poor" but still barely covering all your bills, too bad, enjoy the tuna casserole and tap water after a long day of work while someone that didn't have to get up until noon seems to have pizza and beer.

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Gobstoppers12 posted...

The system is designed to help struggling people/families who desperately need food and cannot afford to feed themselves. It is not meant to be extra cash for McDonald's or Pizza Hut.

Around here, food stamp trading is wide-spread. People who benefit from the program will trade $100 in groceries for $50 in cash to go buy drugs/alcohol, and there's really nothing that can be done to stop it. The best that can be done to prevent the worst kind of abuse of the program (which is paid for by us, not 'the government') is to regulate what can and cannot be purchased with it.

Don't blame the system for its flaws, blame the people who abused it.

Indeed. I remember as a kid when this lady dressed to the nines in front of my family whipped out the food stamp booklet to pay for her steaks and other 'higher end' food. Meanwhile we've got cheaper shit in our cart and my family paid out of pocket for it. I'm all for helping people who need help. But restricting it to just food you prepare at home and requiring an ID that has to be swiped through to make sure the beneficiary is the one buying the food would be a good first step.

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shockthemonkey posted...

Some people also have it bad so we should make it worse for other people is not a good take

especially without context
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i'm lucky to get help for food costs because of my disability would be worse off without it.
can't stand lobster or steak anyway prefer cheap chicken (can do so much with it).
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_Rinku_ posted...

Yes, the poor should be treated like stupid children and not allowed any nice things at all. Do you realize how monstrous that sounds?

If they want nice things they can get a better job and buy them with their own damn money.
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Crazyman93 posted...

_Rinku_ posted...

Yes, the poor should be treated like stupid children and not allowed any nice things at all. Do you realize how monstrous that sounds?

If they want nice things they can get a better job and buy them with their own damn money.

what field are you in? maybe you can give some career advice so people can live like you and not need support. why keep knowledge to yourself, you know?
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Balrog0 posted...

yeah SNAP is the most widely used EBT that I'm aware of

I'm just saying there's no reason for government to care about you microwaving your burrito at the establishment after you buy it. the rule really is intended to stop you from buying mcdonalds and stuff. if 7-11 is gonna let you cook your food at the establishment after you purchase it with SNAP, I don't think the government cares at all

I could be wrong though, thats one reason I asked, to learn

As someone on food stamps, yes, some places are sticklers about how you warm up the food afterwards, to the extent a lot of places where I am actually *removed* public microwaves for *anyone* to use just to stop the so-called "abuse of the system".

You also can't buy *any* pre-cooked food that's still warm/hot, it *must* have been chilled first for an arbitrary amount of time even when it's literally the exact product. This is especially notorious with chicken meals, but the most hilarious example is ready to go soup.
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The Catgirl Fondler posted...

As someone on food stamps, yes, some places are sticklers about how you warm up the food afterwards, to the extent a lot of places where I am actually *removed* public microwaves for *anyone* to use just to stop the so-called "abuse of the system".

You also can't buy *any* pre-cooked food that's still warm/hot, it *must* have been chilled first for an arbitrary amount of time even when it's literally the exact product. This is especially notorious with chicken meals, but the most hilarious example is ready to go soup.

I never saw it when I was on food stamps, but I'm sure experiences vary. Youre talking like gas stations and stuff right?

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HellRatUFO posted...

Youre not being generous nor considerate by forcing productive working adults to foot the expenses of people that cant budget and dont want to learn how to budget. Youre also not being considerate by fighting tooth and nail to dismantle school choice, which can be a childs only shot in lower income neighborhoods to get a legitimate higher education opportunity and make something of themselves.

So fuck them kids is your answer?

SomeLikeItHoth posted...

Because they dont need it. They also dont need soda and candy. Snap should just be for basic things like rice, milk, vegetables and water. Not $50 steaks.

It's so weird to sit here in the actual goddamn year 2019 and realize people are still ignorant enough to think this happens all the time

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gp1829 posted...

So fuck them kids is your answer?

Yes. When he says "people who can't budget and don't want to learn to budget" he's referring mostly to actual children, even though he's trying to make it about their parents

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The Catgirl Fondler posted...

As someone on food stamps, yes, some places are sticklers about how you warm up the food afterwards, to the extent a lot of places where I am actually *removed* public microwaves for *anyone* to use just to stop the so-called "abuse of the system".

Thanks, Obama
https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2016-03006.pdf

Because capitalism is built on making the poor and middle class eat each other while the uppers live lives without conflict.

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Can't buy bakery goods in FL or WI with EBT/SNAP

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Deadpool_18 posted...

Because capitalism is built on making the poor and middle class eat each other while the uppers live lives without conflict.

My biggest allies when the legislature wants to limit snap benefits are the grocers association and walmart lol

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Balrog0 posted...

I never saw it when I was on food stamps, but I'm sure experiences vary. Youre talking like gas stations and stuff right?

With the microwaves? Yes. The only place I know of with a community microwave is the homeless shelter I'm at, but that's obviously limited to those actually living at the shelter, random folks can't just walk in and use them.

With the whole "exact same product at different degrees of warmth" thing? No, right away I can name Wal-Mart, Safeway, and WinCo as doing stuff like that.
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Balrog0 posted...

My biggest allies when the legislature wants to limit snap benefits are the grocers association and walmart lol

Okay!

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I worked at a grocery store in WI for 2 years. My experience with EBT users is that a majority were responsible with their purchases.

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Also like it or not, SNAP and EBT programs reduce crime. Take em away and crime will go up which results in arrests. trials, etc.

Which do you think costs the taxpayers more?

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It's a stupid, arbitrary rule. This is a perfect example of pointless bureaucracy that Republicans usually hate.

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Villain posted...

Also like it or not, SNAP and EBT programs reduce crime. Take em away and crime will go up which results in arrests. trials, etc.

Which do you think costs the taxpayers more?

Well some people think those on federal programs are just handed more and more free money as quickly as they can spend it on luxury goods. That would be far more expensive if it wasn't completely devoid of reality.

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