Board 8 > I'm playing in my first Fire Emblem draft soon.

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Mewtwo59
10/30/19 12:39:54 PM
#151:


I think chapter 14 is going to be a bigger problem for you than chapter 12. I have no idea how you're going to get to Priscilla before the village gets destroyed unless Hector gets a ton of defense level ups.
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xp1337
10/30/19 12:45:47 PM
#152:


It would be very risky and have a high chance of causing casualties but it might be possible to manipulate some of the AI with unequipped members like Rebecca to pull some of the fire off of Hector if it came to that.
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turbopuns3
10/30/19 12:47:33 PM
#153:


Mewtwo59 posted...
I have no idea how you're going to get to Priscilla before the village gets destroyed unless Hector gets a ton of defense level ups.


That...is a good point. Something I hadn't even considered because I'm so used to playing in a completionist mindset.

Well....hm.
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turbopuns3
10/30/19 12:49:19 PM
#154:


Yeah letting Lowen go was brutal.
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turbopuns3
10/30/19 12:53:04 PM
#155:


Well, Lowen/Marcus.
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turbopuns3
10/30/19 1:09:39 PM
#156:


For what it's worth, I gave Hector (and Kent) the tactician bonus.
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Panthera
10/30/19 2:28:55 PM
#157:


Mewtwo59 posted...
I think chapter 14 is going to be a bigger problem for you than chapter 12. I have no idea how you're going to get to Priscilla before the village gets destroyed unless Hector gets a ton of defense level ups.


If you get someone to distract the pirates and keep the path to the north village open so the bandits up there try to get to it, you can keep her village safe for an eternity
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turbopuns3
10/30/19 2:47:21 PM
#158:


Don't the cavaliers come down and destroy it at some point?
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eaedwards6400
10/30/19 2:57:15 PM
#159:


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Panthera
10/30/19 3:09:38 PM
#160:


I don't think any class other than pirate/bandit/berserker (and maybe thieves?) can destroy villages
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turbopuns3
10/30/19 5:02:52 PM
#161:


Hm, it could be doable, then.
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turbopuns3
10/30/19 5:57:18 PM
#162:


if this is to be trusted then you are correct

https://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Village#Destruction

nice. Maybe there's some hope.
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turbopuns3
10/31/19 10:44:10 PM
#163:


Almost time to get to work on Hector's Tale.

I'm kinda waiting around because not everyone has started yet and I'm afraid of wiping out in the first few chapters before anyone else even starts hector's tale lol
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turbopuns3
10/31/19 10:45:07 PM
#164:


Honestly, chapter 11 seems really dicey without being able to utilize matthew at all.

I feel like you could play optimally and still lose to bad luck.
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SSBM_Guy
10/31/19 10:48:37 PM
#165:


Chapter 11 Hector solo is a pretty rude awakening.

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Kenri
11/01/19 1:13:50 AM
#166:


HHM doesn't fuck around. The next couple chapters are probably going to be even worse, though at least you'll have Oswin then.

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turbopuns3
11/01/19 2:10:01 AM
#167:


Kenri posted...
at least you'll have Oswin then.


If only....RIP
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turbopuns3
11/01/19 2:10:34 AM
#168:


I will have: Bartre and Rebecca. Lol.
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Panthera
11/01/19 3:20:15 AM
#169:


I feel like the biggest challenge of chapter 12 will be just keeping the non-drafted dudes out of range. On the bottom part it's easy but up top, sheesh.
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Kenri
11/01/19 3:22:26 AM
#170:


Oh I forgot which team was yours, whoops

Yeah Bartre and Rebecca are not. Uh. Nearly as durable.

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Panthera
11/01/19 3:52:18 AM
#171:


For that one map alone Bartre is actually kind of respectable, at least. Does more damage than the other scrubs and he's not getting doubled quite yet. Shame the non-shit performance doesn't last. And that Rebecca is dreadful.
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turbopuns3
11/01/19 5:23:02 AM
#172:


Panthera posted...
I feel like the biggest challenge of chapter 12 will be just keeping the non-drafted dudes out of range. On the bottom part it's easy but up top, sheesh.


So actually I was looking into that and I want to pose a question to my group about how strict we're being on the "try your best" rule with regard to non-roster characters being attacked.

Because it basically looks like unless I brazenly plunge hector into the heart of the enemy...oswin is gonna get attacked like 20 times
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turbopuns3
11/01/19 9:51:08 PM
#173:


I made it through chapter 12 alive, minus Matthew lol.

Man this shit is ridiculous. I luckily manipulated AI twice in chapter 11 by complete accident. Well, the first time was an accident. Second time I was trying for it. But anyway, I was in a position one over from a doorway. The soldiers moved before the archers, and took up the only space they'd be able to attack me from. So the archer moved right up next to me without attacking and I got to hit it for free next turn.

I had Matthew in the very top right corner of the map, but still wasn't able to stop them from attacking him. Not saying it isn't doable -- I'm sure it is -- but the forethought it would've taken just wasn't significant to me a few turns out as I was much more concerned about positioning hector where he wouldn't die.

Wasn't able to get the red gem, no surprise. Couldn't touch the thief and he ran away. Killed everything else though. I was terrified that he was going to steal a vulnerary from me at one point, but he just unlocked a pointless doo instead. I headed the opposite direction of him after that until he was off screen.

Chapter 12 was so silly. Turns out yeah, Hector can solo the entire north including the boss without much trouble, as long as he's got a vulnerary or two.

South got a little dicey because Rebecca missed two attacks in the mid-80s. What the hell, Rebecca.

At the end I left 1 brigand alive so that I could unite my teams and get everyone's inventories sorted out before chapter 13 started. However. He was positioned very awkwardly to where the whole process of sorting my inventory took like 20 minutes lol.

Called it quits because I don't wanna get complacent and push my luck too far at once.
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Panthera
11/01/19 9:56:11 PM
#174:


turbopuns3 posted...

Man this shit is ridiculous. I luckily manipulated AI twice in chapter 11 by complete accident. Well, the first time was an accident. Second time I was trying for it. But anyway, I was in a position one over from a doorway. The soldiers moved before the archers, and took up the only space they'd be able to attack me from. So the archer moved right up next to me without attacking and I got to hit it for free next turn.


For the most part in FE7 (and I think GBA FE in general), enemies that can only attack at one range move before enemies that have 2 range or 1-2 range, so this is something you can set up from time to time (if you care to think about it, I never really remember it myself until I start seeing the enemies move, then I forget again as soon as my turn comes up <_<)

The inventory shuffling of the first couple of chapters is really annoying. Certainly makes you miss FE6 giving you Merlinus in the second chapter (and FE8 giving you the convoy in the third)!
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 1:11:02 PM
#175:


I gave chapter 13 one shot and guy killed hector, bleh.

Losing Matthew actually bit me in the ass.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 1:13:14 PM
#176:


Was a damn shame too. I only had about 4 mobilized units left to clear out before I could regroup and meticulously pick off the stationary enemies one at a time.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 1:22:23 PM
#177:


Well, I guess technically Guy didn't kill Hector. But he left him at 1 HP.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 1:37:53 PM
#178:


Player C has used 3 resets on chapter 12. Player A has used 1 reset in Lyn's Tale (not sure exactly when). Player B is currently going strong with a damn army on chapter 8.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 1:48:52 PM
#179:


turbopuns3 posted...
Player B is currently going strong with a damn army on chapter 8.


Oh shit I jinxed him. He played too conservative and Lyn got killed.

Maybe I'll win by reaching Chapter 13! Lol
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Mewtwo59
11/02/19 1:54:56 PM
#180:


Why did you even get close to Guy with a team of Hector, Bartre, and Rebecca?
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 1:57:30 PM
#181:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Why did you even get close to Guy with a team of Hector, Bartre, and Rebecca?


There isn't much option.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 1:59:33 PM
#182:


He chases after you, so even if I went all the way around the other side of the map, I still wouldn't be able to seize the throne before he attacked.

I actually had a position where I could've killed him but he ran away and healed then came back.
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Mewtwo59
11/02/19 2:00:13 PM
#183:


Oh, I forgot he actually moves on Hector Hard.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 2:55:12 PM
#184:


Guy has fallen! Home free now.

He did get me a 2nd time though. Only 3 resets left for the rest of the game lol
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 2:58:06 PM
#185:


My initial strategy was to let the south village get destroyed and then put hector on the mountain space right beside it. This was convenient because once a village becomes ruins it's difficult to move through, like a forest, so I was able to manipulate enemies much easier.

Ultimately the winning strat proved to be rushing Hector south to the fort all by himself. The +1 def of the fort compared to the mountain made the difference. Even if Guy was to crit me and normal hit me in one turn, I'd live and the archers/lance users wouldn't be able to damage me at all.

Then of course in the third try I got an extra speed apparently just enough to where Guy couldn't double hit Hector anyway.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 3:36:01 PM
#186:


I may have killed my chance to beat the challenge by using the secret book.

Looking at the state of things I think I'm just gonna flat out run out of weapons lol
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Mewtwo59
11/02/19 3:37:49 PM
#187:


The silver lance should sell for a bit. The Goddess Icon too if you're allowed to recruit Erk.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 3:38:38 PM
#188:


The silver lance gets 600 gold which is equivalent to roughly two iron weapons
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Kenri
11/02/19 3:39:34 PM
#189:


Yeah that's definitely a risk on HHM, especially if you miss the red gem in chapter 11.

I'm guessing you already sold the silver lance Marcus comes with?

Edit: Wow late on the draw on this one

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turbopuns3
11/02/19 3:39:49 PM
#190:


Forgot about the goddess icon. That might save me
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 4:12:58 PM
#191:


Hector:
Level 13 Exp 11
HP 30
Str 16
Skill 9
Spd 8
Luck 8
Def 14
Res 3

Eliwood:
Level 3 Exp 6
HP 20
Str 6
Skill 6
Spd 8
Luck 7
Def 7
Res 1

Rebecca:
Level 2 Exp 54
HP 18
Str 5
Skill 6
Spd 7
Luck 4
Def 3
Res 2

Bartre:
HP 32
Level 5 Exp 76
Str 12
Skill 6
Spd 5
Luck 6
Def 4
Res 0
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 4:21:02 PM
#192:


Wait a second.

The boss in chapter 14 is literally the only character who can damage Hector.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 4:21:32 PM
#193:


(Not counting the brigands and pirates who aren't on the map yet for me to check.)
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 4:25:22 PM
#194:


Man do I just roll out Hector solo and feast?

I'm sure those axe users will be able to hurt him but he can still solo them with a vulnerary I'm guessing.
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Mewtwo59
11/02/19 4:27:29 PM
#195:


I'd do it next chapter when you can just keep Hector on the throne the whole time.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 4:35:27 PM
#196:


On one hand, if I only take Hector I absolutely will not lose anyone.

On the other hand, if I only take Hector he might just get surrounded every turn and get hung up on his way to save Priscilla's village.
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Mewtwo59
11/02/19 4:36:14 PM
#197:


Plus you won't get the Goddess Icon, which you might need for cash at this point.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 4:40:01 PM
#198:


Well I plan to send serra out and get erk regardless. She can die at that point who cares
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 4:40:28 PM
#199:


Though that means having to keep Erk alive too hm.

Well maybe not. I could probably free up an inventory spot for hector to hold it.

Hm I need to see if there's anything I need out of this armory that I won't be able to get for a while.
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turbopuns3
11/02/19 4:49:54 PM
#200:


I don't think I ever take Eliwood or Rebecca here.

Hector can't protect them since he has to hurry up to make sure Priscilla gets saved. If he didn't have a majorly important objective like that, then I could afford to have him babysit.

It's difficult to imagine an attempt where Hector gets to Priscilla in time and none of my other characters die.

Bartre might be doable. Tons of lance users. But even the wimps do like 7 damage to him, and I can't exactly afford to be churning through vulneraries. There's no accessible fort on this map. No mountains either.
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