Board 8 > I'm playing in my first Fire Emblem draft soon.

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turbopuns3
11/25/19 12:57:38 PM
#302:


Player C beat the game using 6 resets. One was a gray area thing that we let go because we failed to discuss it beforehand and it felt like a super lame way to lose. Zephiel (is that his name?) died in Battle Before Dawn before he really had a chance to do anything. So we agreed that we'll just wait and see whether that actually makes a difference in who wins (spoilers: it won't).

But the good news is he's lent me his gameboy player disc so that I can stream my demise.

I'm so salty that my disc went missing at some point. Those things are like 60 bucks. And I looked into using wii homebrew shenanigans to hack a gamecube memory card to run a free thing that emulates a gba on the gamecube, but in following the setup I learned that my wii is mysteriously cursed and can't install the homebrew channel. Frustrating.
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Mewtwo59
11/25/19 1:20:18 PM
#303:


Well, my prediction couldn't have been more wrong. Though I didn't expect player C to sacrifice his firstborn to get a Lyn that good.
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Alanna82
11/25/19 1:21:51 PM
#304:


Player C is very impressive.

They had the weakest team.
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turbopuns3
11/25/19 1:22:45 PM
#305:


It's gone exactly how I predicted just based on player experience, ha
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turbopuns3
11/25/19 1:24:17 PM
#306:


Alanna82 posted...
Player C is very impressive.

They had the weakest team.


He used 4 resets on chapter 12, and 1 reset on chapter 19x because he didn't bother to look up what turn Kishuna left, and got wrecked by snipers
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turbopuns3
11/25/19 1:26:23 PM
#307:


Though after watching him play I have to point out that having two strong mounted combat units early on in Hector's tale is super useful, and player C was the only one who had that (Florina and Lowen)

A only had Marcus

B only had Sain

D only had Kent (and Priscilla but not promoted yet)
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turbopuns3
11/25/19 1:28:10 PM
#308:


And, yeah Player C has beaten HHM like 8 times compared to a combined 0 for the rest of us so this is pretty much exactly what I expected (even down to the ordering of the other players)
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Mewtwo59
11/25/19 1:30:03 PM
#309:


I have no idea why he went to 19x. I thought it was a bad idea before anything bad happened. Without Matthew there's nothing to gain from it.
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Panthera
11/25/19 1:47:52 PM
#310:


turbopuns3 posted...
Player C beat the game using 6 resets. One was a gray area thing that we let go because we failed to discuss it beforehand and it felt like a super lame way to lose. Zephiel (is that his name?) died in Battle Before Dawn before he really had a chance to do anything. So we agreed that we'll just wait and see whether that actually makes a difference in who wins (spoilers: it won't).


This kind of depends on how he dies. If Jaffar decides to be a derp and runs north, giving the Swordreaver fighters free reign to charge in, then yeah that's just the game being dumb. If Jaffar cooperates and Zephiel doesn't face tank the guys he has weapon triangle advantage over, then it's generally on the player because you can prevent him from having to face anything more than one, maybe two Iron Axe Fighters (assuming you have good mounted units, so in a draft context this is admittedly hard to judge)
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turbopuns3
11/25/19 1:48:17 PM
#311:


Most likely because number of side chapters completed was the second condition for breaking ties after number of resets used
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turbopuns3
11/25/19 1:49:38 PM
#312:


I didn't actually watch him play battle before dawn but I also am 99% confident it won't be a difference maker so I just said "yeah sure whatever" when he brought it up that it happened
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Raka_Putra
11/25/19 6:03:07 PM
#313:


Well, that's been interesting. How would you draft people differently if you were to do this again?
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Lopen
11/25/19 6:29:22 PM
#314:


I'm not too surprised Player C won. Having 3 lords to bolster your numbers makes things more forgiving of smaller rosters and he had a pretty solid base of strong units.

Heck I had it at D > C > B > A in terms of win chances. If I knew C was the best player I would've def had them winning.

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turbopuns3
11/25/19 7:02:51 PM
#315:


Raka_Putra posted...
Well, that's been interesting. How would you draft people differently if you were to do this again?


Not sure yet...I think my team is pretty alright. Being stuck with only Anima magic (until Renault lol) might end up being a nuisance.

My failures so far have really just come down to poor play for the most part. Matthew's seemingly inconsequential death ended up costing me 2 resets when I had to fight Guy. I used one reset literally turn 1 putting a lord in range of 2 enemies they couldn't handle assuming 1 would miss.
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Mewtwo59
11/25/19 7:19:02 PM
#316:


Eh, it's not that big of a deal when there's one dark magic user and light magic is fairly weak.
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turbopuns3
11/25/19 9:11:08 PM
#317:


If anyone feels like watching me be mediocre in a challnge setting live, knock yourself out. Gonna be streaming the rest of the run (somewhat to my own detriment lol)

twitch.tv/bosshogre
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turbopuns3
11/26/19 10:10:09 AM
#318:


I beat 19 and 19x

Sadly I left like 4 or 5 levels of EXP behind in 19x because I misunderstood one of the mechanics that once you kill the boss, Kishuna never leaves unless you attack him directly

Thought I had to seize the gate or else he'd leave, so I left Eliwood behind in a certain spot where the reinforcements wouldn't be able to reach him by the time I was finished, only to realize if he'd not been stranded I could've farmed up all the neutered mages and killed the rest of Kishuna's entourage
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turbopuns3
11/27/19 11:19:23 AM
#319:


anyone know if the range on staves rounds up or down when it's magic / 2 ?

There's...a chance priscilla may not be able to even get in range to use the sleep staff on legault

I'm assuming it rounds down. Right now her magic is 9, so a range of 4. I don't have any door keys so I would have to try sleeping him through the thicker portion of the walls. If he walks along the same row of the map where the boss is, which seems likely(?) then Priscilla would need a range of 5 to hit him. So even if I do get her a level up in the first 6 turns, there's no guarantee she'll get that extra range.
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xp1337
11/27/19 11:37:11 AM
#320:


Serenes Forest notes in its calculation page that decimals are rounded down except in a few stated exceptions (and does not list Staff Range as one.) So if I had to bet I'd guess it rounds down. However, it also notes that the minimum range on 1-Mag/2 staves is 1-5 so I think you're safe there.
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Mewtwo59
11/27/19 11:50:01 AM
#321:


The wiki says that an Archer and a cav have droppable door keys, so you should be able to get some more.
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turbopuns3
11/27/19 12:48:35 PM
#322:


Nothing in the map drops door keys in HHM, I looked over the map the last time I played. The only door keys you can get have to be stolen.

And I just realized, never mind Legault, if the enemy thieves don't unlock the door that's right in front of the boss, there's no way I'm gonna be able to get the member card, I don't think (unless the thief who has it actually tries to go for chests? I'm thinking he just runs away though). The only way to reach the main room without unlocking a door is to go all the way around to the bottom right corner and break through the wall.

We'll see how it goes, I guess.
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Mewtwo59
11/27/19 1:01:50 PM
#323:


Oh. The wiki said some items didn't drop in hard mode but the door keys weren't one of them. And that one was supposed to be the "good" wiki.
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xp1337
11/27/19 1:05:13 PM
#324:


IIRC someone does go after the chests, I forget if it's Legault or the Member Card Thief though. Not 100% certain on this though.

Edit: Looking at a HHM FAQ and it seems Legault is the one who opens the right side treasure chests. It also seems to suggest that (absent interference I assume) that Legault and the Member Card Thief will exit the map from the top-left after Turn 8 so that would be yor time limit not counting any means you can slow them down.

As for the door in front of the boss. ...I know the thieves open it on some difficulties, don't know if HHM is one of them though.
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Panthera
11/27/19 1:33:12 PM
#325:


I'm pretty sure they won't open the door by the boss. I think Member Card Thief tries to grab the chests on the west side before leaving, but don't quote me on that. Legault I'm pretty sure just escapes so yeah, good luck getting to him
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turbopuns3
11/27/19 2:22:28 PM
#326:


I have a feeling my shot at recruiting him will come down to one roll on a 60% chance of a sleep staff
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Mewtwo59
11/30/19 7:09:37 PM
#327:


The calc is 30 + (Magic x 5) + Skill - (Resistance x 5) + (Distance from enemy x 2), so with 9 magic and Legault's base res of 4, you get (75 + skill) - (30), so 45 + whatever Priscilla's skill is. Her base is 6, so she can at least get it above 50% where true hit starts to rig it in your favor.

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Panthera
11/30/19 7:11:40 PM
#328:


Staff accuracy uses 1RN, not 2RN, so the listed hit is your actual hit rate
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Mewtwo59
12/01/19 4:59:32 PM
#329:


Why do staves always have to be weird?
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Panthera
12/01/19 6:38:30 PM
#330:


At least you don't have to worry about healing staffs missing in this game!
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Mewtwo59
12/05/19 11:05:55 PM
#331:


True. It could be worse.

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Mewtwo59
12/16/19 1:13:21 AM
#332:


Are you still doing this?
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turbopuns3
12/16/19 12:23:31 PM
#333:


Yeah, just been on big WoW tilt lately. And the past 4 days I was on vacation. Thinking I'll stream again tomorrow
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turbopuns3
12/18/19 2:35:47 AM
#334:


Cleared Dragon's Gate. No Legault. :(

Sleep failed with a 55. Buuuut after seeing how the chapter played out, there's no way in hell l could have made it to him in time to talk anyway, short of me hitting 3 sleeps in a row. The hallways to the north and east got super clogged with mages and knights.

Oh well. Moving on.

Got Rebecca to 12 and promoted her.

Ninian is back! Oh yeah.

I'll play again in less than 3 weeks.
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Raka_Putra
12/26/19 1:15:11 AM
#335:


How's Rebecca holding up?

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turbopuns3
01/01/20 11:30:00 PM
#336:


Great question.
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