Board 8 > Blizzard bans and withholds prize money from hearthstone player for HK support

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GranzonEx 10/09/19 1:00:37 PM #353:	and they make many more times that from the US TV deals you don't win doing business with China, you can't own business in China, you have to share it with a partner company owned by the CCP. the only growth that happens is for their companies while the CCP dangles the 1.4 billion population number in front of you making you think you can grow your marketshare when the growth are all made up numbers because 90% of the country is dirt poor --- 2 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:928547144] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>and they make many more times that from the US TV deals you don't win doing business with China, you can't own business in China, you have to share it with a partner company owned by the CCP. the only growth that happens is for their companies while the CCP dangles the 1.4 billion population number in front of you making you think you can grow your marketshare when the growth are all made up numbers because 90% of the country is dirt poor</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 10/09/19 1:13:07 PM #354:	redrocket posted... What exactly were they doing at that time to earn that kind of condemnation? The pivot to all wow all the time. I mean blizzards decline really started before 06/07, but there was still a chance for recovery. Warcraft 3 had amazing custom maps despite a meh campaign (tft didnt even have a legit orc one, but war3 and tfts storylines were ok but still tolerable), and a broken hero system. We were getting a new title or significant expansion from like 1995 to 2004 with maybe 1 year where nothing major happened (i think brood war was dec 98 for example, while vanilla sc was summer 98 if i recall. 1999 blizzard didnt do much im pretty sure). By 07/08 wow was already seeing the problems that plague the game today: everything is mapped out online, "game doesnt REALLY begin until max level bra" statements which is really shitty game design, etc. Blizzard is lucky that people have invested so much time into wow even by 07/08 that people didnt want to cancel their subs because they dony want to psychologically admit years of their life were for mostly nothing. From a business (and more impprtant standpoint perhaps) i believe the activision blizzard merge was being discussed throughout 2007 and happened in 08. That was officially when blizzard went to shit. Been riding their repuation for years now (and because the industry sucks as a whole) --- Casual Revolution 2007 - 2016 <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:928547640] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>redrocket posted... </cite> <quote>What exactly were they doing at that time to earn that kind of condemnation?</quote> The pivot to all wow all the time. I mean blizzards decline really started before 06/07, but there was still a chance for recovery. Warcraft 3 had amazing custom maps despite a meh campaign (tft didnt even have a legit orc one, but war3 and tfts storylines were ok but still tolerable), and a broken hero system. We were getting a new title or significant expansion from like 1995 to 2004 with maybe 1 year where nothing major happened (i think brood war was dec 98 for example, while vanilla sc was summer 98 if i recall. 1999 blizzard didnt do much im pretty sure). By 07/08 wow was already seeing the problems that plague the game today: everything is mapped out online, "game doesnt REALLY begin until max level bra" statements which is really shitty game design, etc. Blizzard is lucky that people have invested so much time into wow even by 07/08 that people didnt want to cancel their subs because they dony want to psychologically admit years of their life were for mostly nothing. From a business (and more impprtant standpoint perhaps) i believe the activision blizzard merge was being discussed throughout 2007 and happened in 08. That was officially when blizzard went to shit. Been riding their repuation for years now (and because the industry sucks as a whole) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 10/09/19 1:40:24 PM #355:	KamikazePotato posted... The Overwatch subreddit is trying to make Mei a symbol of Hong Kong now. Fan art starting to come out the woodworks It's amazing how spectacularly this backfired on Blizzard they forgot that gamers are super obnoxious and will overreact to even minor things, so obviously a big thing like this was going to cause a total shitstorm --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:928548746] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted...</cite> <quote>The Overwatch subreddit is trying to make Mei a symbol of Hong Kong now. Fan art starting to come out the woodworks It's amazing how spectacularly this backfired on Blizzard</quote> they forgot that gamers are super obnoxious and will overreact to even minor things, so obviously a big thing like this was going to cause a total shitstorm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 10/09/19 1:43:00 PM #356:	SaintAkira7 posted... http://bmkgaming.com/statement-on-blitzchung/ Kibbles goes pretty hard here, if anyone's interested. I think his response is entirely respectable and I'm glad he's recognizing that his involvement could be construed in a way that he doesn't want. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:928548847] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>SaintAkira7 posted...</cite> <quote>http://bmkgaming.com/statement-on-blitzchung/ Kibbles goes pretty hard here, if anyone's interested. </quote> I think his response is entirely respectable and I'm glad he's recognizing that his involvement could be construed in a way that he doesn't want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/09/19 1:46:49 PM #358:	https://twitter.com/noahpinion/status/1181964700860346368?s=21 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:928549012] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/noahpinion/status/1181964700860346368?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaintAkira7 10/09/19 3:16:57 PM #359:	Peace___Frog posted... I think his response is entirely respectable and I'm glad he's recognizing that his involvement could be construed in a way that he doesn't want. Yeah, I didn't mean to imply anything with my comment. I'm not a fan of Kibler by any means, but I think the statement is about as close to perfect as one could get. By "going hard", I should have said I was rather surprised he'd resign his casting position. But it's a solid move, showing a modicum of sacrifice on his part in disagreement with the heavy-handedness that Blizz displayed. Also, I think his closing to the statement is perhaps the most important part; other people (casters, streamers, GMs, Blizzard regular-Joe employees, etc) aren't in the position he is to step away, and they shouldn't become the target of anger and frustration. --- PSN: SaintAkira42 https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/18491169/ <cite>SaintAkira7 posted [p:928552814] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted... </cite> <quote>I think his response is entirely respectable and I'm glad he's recognizing that his involvement could be construed in a way that he doesn't want.</quote> Yeah, I didn't mean to imply anything with my comment. I'm not a fan of Kibler by any means, but I think the statement is about as close to perfect as one could get. By "going hard", I should have said I was rather surprised he'd resign his casting position. But it's a solid move, showing a modicum of sacrifice on his part in disagreement with the heavy-handedness that Blizz displayed. Also, I think his closing to the statement is perhaps the most important part; other people (casters, streamers, GMs, Blizzard regular-Joe employees, etc) aren't in the position he is to step away, and they shouldn't become the target of anger and frustration. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 10/09/19 3:23:25 PM #360:	Also on the NBA thing, small portions of the internet are propogating the idea that any political messaging(ie, MAGA hats) getting you kicked out of a venue is normal. I can tell you this is absolutely not the case and you are normally free to express yourself in any way that is not offensive(use of foul language, offensive terms, overt racist messaging, etc). A MAGA hat is not enough for removal from a venue. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:928553092] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Also on the NBA thing, small portions of the internet are propogating the idea that any political messaging(ie, MAGA hats) getting you kicked out of a venue is normal. I can tell you this is absolutely not the case and you are normally free to express yourself in any way that is not offensive(use of foul language, offensive terms, overt racist messaging, etc). A MAGA hat is not enough for removal from a venue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skullbone 10/09/19 3:28:54 PM #361:	MoogleKupo141 posted... KamikazePotato posted... The Overwatch subreddit is trying to make Mei a symbol of Hong Kong now. Fan art starting to come out the woodworks It's amazing how spectacularly this backfired on Blizzard they forgot that gamers are super obnoxious and will overreact to even minor things, so obviously a big thing like this was going to cause a total shitstorm Let's be honest people are just trying to get Mei removed from Overwatch --- skull <cite>skullbone posted [p:928553324] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted...</cite> <quote>The Overwatch subreddit is trying to make Mei a symbol of Hong Kong now. Fan art starting to come out the woodworks It's amazing how spectacularly this backfired on Blizzard</quote> they forgot that gamers are super obnoxious and will overreact to even minor things, so obviously a big thing like this was going to cause a total shitstorm</quote> Let's be honest people are just trying to get Mei removed from Overwatch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 10/09/19 3:36:50 PM #362:	GranzonEx posted... and they make many more times that from the US TV deals you don't win doing business with China, you can't own business in China, you have to share it with a partner company owned by the CCP. the only growth that happens is for their companies while the CCP dangles the 1.4 billion population number in front of you making you think you can grow your marketshare when the growth are all made up numbers because 90% of the country is dirt poor How do you not understand how China works. How do you see GM drawing more profits from China sales in China, not just production than any other region and think this post makes sense. --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:928553639] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>GranzonEx posted...</cite> <quote>and they make many more times that from the US TV deals you don't win doing business with China, you can't own business in China, you have to share it with a partner company owned by the CCP. the only growth that happens is for their companies while the CCP dangles the 1.4 billion population number in front of you making you think you can grow your marketshare when the growth are all made up numbers because 90% of the country is dirt poor</quote> How do you not understand how China works. How do you see GM drawing more profits from China sales in China, not just production than any other region and think this post makes sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 10/09/19 4:12:39 PM #363:	Leafeon13N posted... Also on the NBA thing, small portions of the internet are propogating the idea that any political messaging(ie, MAGA hats) getting you kicked out of a venue is normal. I can tell you this is absolutely not the case and you are normally free to express yourself in any way that is not offensive(use of foul language, offensive terms, overt racist messaging, etc). A MAGA hat is not enough for removal from a venue. I mean, this shouldnt even need to be said, and yet here we are. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:928555171] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted... </cite> <quote>Also on the NBA thing, small portions of the internet are propogating the idea that any political messaging(ie, MAGA hats) getting you kicked out of a venue is normal. I can tell you this is absolutely not the case and you are normally free to express yourself in any way that is not offensive(use of foul language, offensive terms, overt racist messaging, etc). A MAGA hat is not enough for removal from a venue.</quote> I mean, this shouldnt even need to be said, and yet here we are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 10/09/19 4:50:19 PM #364:	trdl23 posted... GranzonEx posted... and they make many more times that from the US TV deals you don't win doing business with China, you can't own business in China, you have to share it with a partner company owned by the CCP. the only growth that happens is for their companies while the CCP dangles the 1.4 billion population number in front of you making you think you can grow your marketshare when the growth are all made up numbers because 90% of the country is dirt poor How do you not understand how China works. How do you see GM drawing more profits from China sales in China, not just production than any other region and think this post makes sense. remind me in a few years when they're done stealing Ford and GM's electric car patents and see where those two end up in their market --- 2 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:928556877] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>trdl23 posted...</cite> <quote>GranzonEx posted...</cite> <quote>and they make many more times that from the US TV deals you don't win doing business with China, you can't own business in China, you have to share it with a partner company owned by the CCP. the only growth that happens is for their companies while the CCP dangles the 1.4 billion population number in front of you making you think you can grow your marketshare when the growth are all made up numbers because 90% of the country is dirt poor</quote> How do you not understand how China works. How do you see GM drawing more profits from China sales in China, not just production than any other region and think this post makes sense.</quote> remind me in a few years when they're done stealing Ford and GM's electric car patents and see where those two end up in their market</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 10/09/19 5:30:10 PM #365:	LordoftheMorons posted... https://twitter.com/noahpinion/status/1181964700860346368?s=21 Yikes --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:928558619] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/noahpinion/status/1181964700860346368?s=21 </quote> Yikes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 10/09/19 5:37:03 PM #366:	To be fair, what I read indicated that the fans were not "just" holding signs but they were yelling a bunch too, and the team said they were kicked out for disrupting the fan experience. --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:928558977] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>To be fair, what I read indicated that the fans were not "just" holding signs but they were yelling a bunch too, and the team said they were kicked out for disrupting the fan experience.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 10/09/19 6:24:19 PM #367:	Yelling at a sporting event = disrupting the fan experience thinkingFaceEmoji EDIT: I'm also not exactly sure how loud they could have gotten when atleast one of them is wearing a flu mask --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:928561007] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Yelling at a sporting event = disrupting the fan experience thinkingFaceEmoji EDIT: I'm also not exactly sure how loud they could have gotten when atleast one of them is wearing a flu mask</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 10/09/19 6:25:43 PM #368:	Emeraldegg posted... To be fair, what I read indicated that the fans were not "just" holding signs but they were yelling a bunch too, and the team said they were kicked out for disrupting the fan experience. Has it occurred to you that they might be lying? --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - https://imgur.com/W66HUUy http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:928561073] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Emeraldegg posted...</cite> <quote>To be fair, what I read indicated that the fans were not "just" holding signs but they were yelling a bunch too, and the team said they were kicked out for disrupting the fan experience.</quote> Has it occurred to you that they might be lying?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 10/09/19 6:30:03 PM #369:	Reportedly security took their signs first, then ejected them later. So yeah it's pretty clear what the reasoning was --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:928561228] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Reportedly security took their signs first, then ejected them later. So yeah it's pretty clear what the reasoning was</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UItimaterializer 10/09/19 6:32:16 PM #370:	Blizzard admitted on Chinese social media that this action was 100% done because they did not want China getting offended. So anyone who says there was any other reason is just objectively wrong now. --- Get the X out. Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it. <cite>UItimaterializer posted [p:928561310] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Blizzard admitted on Chinese social media that this action was 100% done because they did not want China getting offended. So anyone who says there was any other reason is just objectively wrong now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 10/09/19 7:01:49 PM #371:	heres that Chinese Blizzard post: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/dfjldg/blizzards_official_weibo_account_just_posted_an/ this sucks ! --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:928562583] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>heres that Chinese Blizzard post: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/dfjldg/blizzards_official_weibo_account_just_posted_an/ this sucks !</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 10/09/19 7:09:34 PM #372:	oh wait, the link is sort of misleading: This is not a post by Blizzard. This is a comment that was posted by the NetEase PlayHearthstone account on the Sina Weibo platform in response to the ruling by Blizzard Taiwan. https://www.weibo.com/playhearthstone This social network and this company are based in Mainland China where the Chinese government controls the media. In the comments you will mostly see anti-protester sentiment as a result. Not actually Blizzards post Blizzard still sucks tho --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:928562879] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>oh wait, the link is sort of misleading: This is not a post by Blizzard. This is a comment that was posted by the NetEase PlayHearthstone account on the Sina Weibo platform in response to the ruling by Blizzard Taiwan. https://www.weibo.com/playhearthstone This social network and this company are based in Mainland China where the Chinese government controls the media. In the comments you will mostly see anti-protester sentiment as a result. Not actually Blizzards post Blizzard still sucks tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 10/09/19 7:09:49 PM #373:	MoogleKupo141 posted... heres that Chinese Blizzard post: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/dfjldg/blizzards_official_weibo_account_just_posted_an/ this sucks ! Im not sure if this was the intended point all along, but that first reply is a gold mine. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:928562897] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>MoogleKupo141 posted... </cite> <quote>heres that Chinese Blizzard post: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/dfjldg/blizzards_official_weibo_account_just_posted_an/ this sucks !</quote> Im not sure if this was the intended point all along, but that first reply is a gold mine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 10/09/19 7:47:31 PM #374:	To be clear, I wasn't saying that's what I thought it was, that was the reason the team themselves gave regarding the ejections. Certainly the optics point to the team just being like "no HK ever" but given that we weren't there to see the exact instance, I think there is at least a possibility that the people were being over the top about it and maybe surrounding patrons complained. Yelling certainly can be disrupting the fan experience depending on the context. Cheering or booing during action is one thing, but if the ball's just like, being brought up the court or something, and these people are repeatedly shouting this thing that has nothing to do with the game, I wouldn't be surprised if it got on people's nerves. --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:928564491] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>To be clear, I wasn't saying that's what I thought it was, that was the reason the team themselves gave regarding the ejections. Certainly the optics point to the team just being like "no HK ever" but given that we weren't there to see the exact instance, I think there is at least a possibility that the people were being over the top about it and maybe surrounding patrons complained. Yelling certainly can be disrupting the fan experience depending on the context. Cheering or booing during action is one thing, but if the ball's just like, being brought up the court or something, and these people are repeatedly shouting this thing that has nothing to do with the game, I wouldn't be surprised if it got on people's nerves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 10/09/19 7:56:27 PM #375:	Emeraldegg posted... To be clear, I wasn't saying that's what I thought it was, that was the reason the team themselves gave regarding the ejections. Certainly the optics point to the team just being like "no HK ever" but given that we weren't there to see the exact instance, I think there is at least a possibility that the people were being over the top about it and maybe surrounding patrons complained. Yelling certainly can be disrupting the fan experience depending on the context. Cheering or booing during action is one thing, but if the ball's just like, being brought up the court or something, and these people are repeatedly shouting this thing that has nothing to do with the game, I wouldn't be surprised if it got on people's nerves. Most people in the photo were smiling looking at the game. --- Sir Chris <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:928564857] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Emeraldegg posted...</cite> <quote>To be clear, I wasn't saying that's what I thought it was, that was the reason the team themselves gave regarding the ejections. Certainly the optics point to the team just being like "no HK ever" but given that we weren't there to see the exact instance, I think there is at least a possibility that the people were being over the top about it and maybe surrounding patrons complained. Yelling certainly can be disrupting the fan experience depending on the context. Cheering or booing during action is one thing, but if the ball's just like, being brought up the court or something, and these people are repeatedly shouting this thing that has nothing to do with the game, I wouldn't be surprised if it got on people's nerves.</quote> Most people in the photo were smiling looking at the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldegg 10/09/19 7:57:37 PM #376:	I see, point taken then --- I'm a greener egg than the eggs from dr. seuss <cite>Emeraldegg posted [p:928564914] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>I see, point taken then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 10/09/19 8:16:44 PM #377:	this thread is kinda interesting Tencent owns 40% of Epic (which is why that one developer earlier says he'll never go on the Epic launcher) but the owner of Epic is majority shareholder and is swearing he'll never capitulate to this kind of stuff. https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1181946357759844352?s=20 --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:928565750] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>this thread is kinda interesting Tencent owns 40% of Epic (which is why that one developer earlier says he'll never go on the Epic launcher) but the owner of Epic is majority shareholder and is swearing he'll never capitulate to this kind of stuff. https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1181946357759844352?s=20</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 10/09/19 8:17:46 PM #378:	uh oh how will gamers deal with positive news about Epic --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:928565807] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>uh oh how will gamers deal with positive news about Epic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 10/09/19 8:18:46 PM #379:	CoolCly posted... this thread is kinda interesting Tencent owns 40% of Epic (which is why that one developer earlier says he'll never go on the Epic launcher) but the owner of Epic is majority shareholder and is swearing he'll never capitulate to this kind of stuff. https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1181946357759844352?s=20 As nice as that is, I'd be surprised if he stuck to that if China actually told them to stop. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:928565845] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>CoolCly posted...</cite> <quote>this thread is kinda interesting Tencent owns 40% of Epic (which is why that one developer earlier says he'll never go on the Epic launcher) but the owner of Epic is majority shareholder and is swearing he'll never capitulate to this kind of stuff. https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1181946357759844352?s=20</quote> As nice as that is, I'd be surprised if he stuck to that if China actually told them to stop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lucavi000 10/09/19 8:21:22 PM #380:	Tim Sweeney is scum and he'd buckle faster than a belt if China applied pressure. --- "Doesn't matter, still obtainable. You were wrong, simply admit it and apologize for your ignorance and s*** attitude." - Firemage7777 to SuperZay <cite>Lucavi000 posted [p:928565957] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Tim Sweeney is scum and he'd buckle faster than a belt if China applied pressure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skullbone 10/09/19 8:22:23 PM #381:	KamikazePotato posted... CoolCly posted... this thread is kinda interesting Tencent owns 40% of Epic (which is why that one developer earlier says he'll never go on the Epic launcher) but the owner of Epic is majority shareholder and is swearing he'll never capitulate to this kind of stuff. https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1181946357759844352?s=20 As nice as that is, I'd be surprised if he stuck to that if China actually told them to stop. Making a strong stance against bowing to pressure and then immediately bowing to pressure is about 1000 times worse than just saying nothing at all so I would be pretty shocked if that happened. --- skull <cite>skullbone posted [p:928566009] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>KamikazePotato posted...</cite> <quote>CoolCly posted...</cite> <quote>this thread is kinda interesting Tencent owns 40% of Epic (which is why that one developer earlier says he'll never go on the Epic launcher) but the owner of Epic is majority shareholder and is swearing he'll never capitulate to this kind of stuff. https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1181946357759844352?s=20</quote> As nice as that is, I'd be surprised if he stuck to that if China actually told them to stop.</quote> Making a strong stance against bowing to pressure and then immediately bowing to pressure is about 1000 times worse than just saying nothing at all so I would be pretty shocked if that happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Arti 10/09/19 8:39:05 PM #383:	https://twitter.com/Espsilverfire2/status/1182001007976423424 --- http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif <cite>Arti posted [p:928566803] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Espsilverfire2/status/1182001007976423424</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranzonEx 10/09/19 8:41:10 PM #384:	China wants your photo identification so you can get blacklisted from entering their country in the future --- 2 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>GranzonEx posted [p:928566886] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>China wants your photo identification so you can get blacklisted from entering their country in the future</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 10/09/19 9:16:58 PM #385:	Arti posted... https://twitter.com/Espsilverfire2/status/1182001007976423424 Isn't this super mega triple illegal? People are on autopay for certain services, and if the service prevents you from cancelling that sounds like a lawsuit in the making. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:928568368] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Arti posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Espsilverfire2/status/1182001007976423424</quote> Isn't this super mega triple illegal? People are on autopay for certain services, and if the service prevents you from cancelling that sounds like a lawsuit in the making.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/09/19 9:30:51 PM #386:	i think its more likely that their systems are overloaded than that they deliberately disabled account deletion. --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:928568954] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>i think its more likely that their systems are overloaded than that they deliberately disabled account deletion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/09/19 9:33:28 PM #387:	Its times like these that Im genuinely curious as to what Vlado thinks. Would he side with free speech against the wishes of a (((company))) he hates, or would he side with authoritarian nationalism as a concept as he wants all the nations of the world to subscribe to --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928569076] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Its times like these that Im genuinely curious as to what Vlado thinks. Would he side with free speech against the wishes of a (((company))) he hates, or would he side with authoritarian nationalism as a concept as he wants all the nations of the world to subscribe to</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 10/09/19 9:49:08 PM #388:	Jakyl25 posted... Its times like these that Im genuinely curious as to what Vlado thinks. Would he side with free speech against the wishes of a (((company))) he hates, or would he side with authoritarian nationalism as a concept as he wants all the nations of the world to subscribe to Authoritarian Nationalism because it weakens the US position in the world which is all he really wants. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:928569698] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Its times like these that Im genuinely curious as to what Vlado thinks. Would he side with free speech against the wishes of a (((company))) he hates, or would he side with authoritarian nationalism as a concept as he wants all the nations of the world to subscribe to</quote>Authoritarian Nationalism because it weakens the US position in the world which is all he really wants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 10/09/19 9:50:30 PM #389:	I agree it's more likely the system just got overloaded (they certainly don't expect so many account cancellations at once) than that they are risking an easily-lost class action lawsuit over doing something hugely illegal in preventing people from unsubscribing <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:928569752] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>I agree it's more likely the system just got overloaded (they certainly don't expect so many account cancellations at once) than that they are risking an easily-lost class action lawsuit over doing something hugely illegal in preventing people from unsubscribing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 10/09/19 9:53:12 PM #390:	ESPN: https://twitter.com/darinself/status/1182097981081837568?s=21 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:928569868] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>ESPN: https://twitter.com/darinself/status/1182097981081837568?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 10/09/19 9:54:44 PM #391:	Paratroopa1 posted... I agree it's more likely the system just got overloaded (they certainly don't expect so many account cancellations at once) than that they are risking an easily-lost class action lawsuit over doing something hugely illegal in preventing people from unsubscribing For what it's worth, people have taken screenshots showing that the options have been outright removed, and aren't just giving errors. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:928569945] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree it's more likely the system just got overloaded (they certainly don't expect so many account cancellations at once) than that they are risking an easily-lost class action lawsuit over doing something hugely illegal in preventing people from unsubscribing</quote> For what it's worth, people have taken screenshots showing that the options have been outright removed, and aren't just giving errors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 10/09/19 9:59:57 PM #392:	LordoftheMorons posted... ESPN: https://twitter.com/darinself/status/1182097981081837568?s=21 I like the reply that said this is like Sharpiegate --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:928570171] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>LordoftheMorons posted...</cite> <quote>ESPN: https://twitter.com/darinself/status/1182097981081837568?s=21 </quote> I like the reply that said this is like Sharpiegate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 10/09/19 10:10:28 PM #393:	I think I saw someone say the authenticator was working for everything except deleting accounts for what that's worth --- JeffRaze, for all your random spellcasting needs <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:928570620] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>I think I saw someone say the authenticator was working for everything except deleting accounts for what that's worth</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolCly 10/09/19 11:33:57 PM #394:	my authenticator basically never works anyways soooo --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG <cite>CoolCly posted [p:928573718] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>my authenticator basically never works anyways soooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinglicious 10/09/19 11:58:21 PM #395:	Arti posted... https://twitter.com/Espsilverfire2/status/1182001007976423424 The co-option idea in this thread is totally the right one. Taking Blizzard's characters and making them anti-China, pro Hong Kong would be a brilliant fuck you to the company. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Kinglicious posted [p:928574513] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Arti posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Espsilverfire2/status/1182001007976423424</quote> The co-option idea in this thread is totally the right one. Taking Blizzard's characters and making them anti-China, pro Hong Kong would be a brilliant fuck you to the company.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
handsomeboy2012 10/10/19 12:03:00 AM #396:	Cant wait for China to ban Mei. Or ban overwatch. <cite>handsomeboy2012 posted [p:928574648] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Cant wait for China to ban Mei. Or ban overwatch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 10/10/19 7:35:10 AM #397:	Their authenticator failed me about 4 ish years ago and i never bothered to get my account back. Shame i can't delete it now. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:928582666] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Their authenticator failed me about 4 ish years ago and i never bothered to get my account back. Shame i can't delete it now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 10/10/19 9:33:24 AM #398:	Corrik7 posted... He straight up said to "liberate" Hong Kong which is another can of worms also It's not unless you believe China's propaganda Also China is like 12% of their market, and that includes Hong Kong Any other straws you wanna grasp before you just admit you literally became a devoted communist sympathizer just because Trump told you to? --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:928585234] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote> He straight up said to "liberate" Hong Kong which is another can of worms also</quote> It's not unless you believe China's propaganda Also China is like 12% of their market, and that includes Hong Kong Any other straws you wanna grasp before you just admit you literally became a devoted communist sympathizer just because Trump told you to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 10/10/19 9:41:54 AM #399:	Peace___Frog posted... Hey guys, ulti was quoted from reddit for a vice article lol https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/bjw535/blizzards-hong-kong-screw-up-is-officially-an-international-incident "Ive been playing since beta. Good riddance, redditor UltimaterializerX said. Blizzard CLEARLY only cares about the Chinese market. The censorship of art was bad enough. The censorship of human life is indefensible. Finding videos of whats going on in Hong Kong is easy and I suggest everyone do so. Its Tiananmen Square all over again. Isn't this at least the 20th time he's quit hearthstone? I haven't followed the hs topic in a long time so my estimate might be off. He's exactly the type of person that would be quoted in vice, holy crap --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:928585469] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote>Hey guys, ulti was quoted from reddit for a vice article lol https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/bjw535/blizzards-hong-kong-screw-up-is-officially-an-international-incident <quote>"Ive been playing since beta. Good riddance, redditor UltimaterializerX said. Blizzard CLEARLY only cares about the Chinese market. The censorship of art was bad enough. The censorship of human life is indefensible. Finding videos of whats going on in Hong Kong is easy and I suggest everyone do so. Its Tiananmen Square all over again.</quote> Isn't this at least the 20th time he's quit hearthstone? I haven't followed the hs topic in a long time so my estimate might be off.</quote> He's exactly the type of person that would be quoted in vice, holy crap</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 10/10/19 9:41:58 AM #400:	foolm0r0n posted... Also China is like 12% of their market, and that includes Hong Kong Err...I was under the impression that Asia was 12% of their market, and China was only 8% of their Asian market. Remember, Blizzard games are kind-of big in places like South Korea. Australia and New Zealand tend to get lumped under Asia too (same server and all that). --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:928585473] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Also China is like 12% of their market, and that includes Hong Kong</quote> Err...I was under the impression that Asia was 12% of their market, and China was only 8% of their Asian market. Remember, Blizzard games are kind-of big in places like South Korea. Australia and New Zealand tend to get lumped under Asia too (same server and all that).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 10/10/19 9:43:22 AM #401:	That sounds right --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:928585513] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>That sounds right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 10/10/19 9:59:13 AM #402:	Apparently one of the overwatch team managers spoke up mildy negatively about the blitzchung ban, and was directed to delete his tweet: https://dotesports.com/overwatch/news/fuels-jayne-directed-to-delete-tweet-condemning-blitzchung-ban --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:928585999] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Apparently one of the overwatch team managers spoke up mildy negatively about the blitzchung ban, and was directed to delete his tweet: https://dotesports.com/overwatch/news/fuels-jayne-directed-to-delete-tweet-condemning-blitzchung-ban</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
metroid composite 10/10/19 10:53:43 AM #403:	Daily Show segment on Hong Kong and the NBA (briefly mentions Activision) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izohpKPd9CM" data-time=" --- Cats land on their feet. Toast lands peanut butter side down. A cat with toast strapped to its back will hover above the ground in a state of quantum indecision <cite>metroid composite posted [p:928587640] in Blizzard b... [t:78071335]...</cite> <quote>Daily Show segment on Hong Kong and the NBA (briefly mentions Activision) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izohpKPd9CM" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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