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TheRock1525
10/04/19 11:19:03 PM
#151:


The ending of Kofimania was sad but strangely cathartic.
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TheRock1525
10/04/19 11:29:57 PM
#152:


Randy Orton used the n-word on a stream.

Guess he's joining Team Hogan!
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Steiner
10/05/19 4:08:39 AM
#153:


Why would you think mwc could have over 3000 karma
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Eddv
10/05/19 4:21:33 AM
#154:


why would a person with over 3000 karma have only one post?
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StealThisSheen
10/05/19 4:30:53 AM
#155:


His one post before this within the last like, year, was a dumb politics poll topic in the exact same fashion that red sox does them, so I'd bank on red sox alt but I have no idea why he'd break it out now.
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TheRock1525
10/05/19 4:37:25 AM
#156:


I know who it is:

ISWEIu0
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TheRock1525
10/05/19 4:52:20 AM
#157:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yVeAHQKpII" data-time="


Bray is so amazing.
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Eddv
10/05/19 4:55:29 AM
#158:


No he isn't.
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XIII_rocks
10/05/19 4:56:29 AM
#159:


Christ, eddv, give it a rest

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Eddv
10/05/19 5:01:24 AM
#160:


No, Bray sucks and I won't not say so.
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XIII_rocks
10/05/19 5:06:47 AM
#161:


Maybe just try not saying so a bit more

Because that post doesn't add anything. It's just you being cantankerous and posting hostile disagreement with nothing to actually work with. That post doesn't do anything but come off as an attempt to annoy Rock, which has apparently been your MO in these topics for a little while now. And to top it all off you didn't even watch the video he posted. So it's just an instinctive, shitty little "NO. STOP LIKING THINGS" without any actual regard for the specific topic at hand.

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10/05/19 5:21:13 AM
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Eddv
10/05/19 5:23:24 AM
#163:


Ok, Bray is shitty and the relentless promotion for WWE made me want to watch WWE less not more, to include these shitty Bray spots, especially these shitty bray spots because this is exactly the sort of shit that WWE does that make me want to kill myself.
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StealThisSheen
10/05/19 5:32:16 AM
#164:


Having a wrestler promote an event on local morning shows makes you want to kill yourself?

You're so weird
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Steiner
10/05/19 5:42:25 AM
#165:


My take from smackdown is bray is entertaining in the funhouse segments but everything involving him in the mask in the arena is abjectly terrible and the antithesis of what I want from wrestling. Like Undertaker / Kane level bullshit but worse because nobody ever sat squealing in the ring after they were done.
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Steiner
10/05/19 5:43:44 AM
#166:


Also worse because I'm not 9
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Steiner
10/05/19 5:48:48 AM
#167:


Listening to the VOW podcast and they sum up the Bray thing perfectly - some of the people who are already fans may be in to this, but WHY would you put this on the first Fox episode you're hoping people watch because of The Rock? Any non fan who sees that is laughing their ass off and mocking this show to their friends tomorrow.
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HashtagSEP
10/05/19 5:59:26 AM
#168:


Frankly, any non-fan is gonna be mocking it for King Corbin and The Man Becky Lynch far before it even gets to that because those are things that just seem silly from an outside perspective
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Steiner
10/05/19 6:01:35 AM
#169:


HashtagSEP posted...
Frankly, any non-fan is gonna be mocking it for King Corbin and The Man Becky Lynch far before it even gets to that because those are things that just seem silly from an outside perspective, especially without context


King corbin wearing his dopey crown and cape I agree with, don't see a problem with Becky though
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Steiner
10/05/19 6:02:35 AM
#170:


I'll actually go stronger and say that Becky in there with the rock was the best move on this show (besides getting the belt off Kofi)
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HashtagSEP
10/05/19 6:04:20 AM
#171:


Steiner posted...
HashtagSEP posted...
Frankly, any non-fan is gonna be mocking it for King Corbin and The Man Becky Lynch far before it even gets to that because those are things that just seem silly from an outside perspective, especially without context


King corbin wearing his dopey crown and cape I agree with, don't see a problem with Becky though


If youre not a fan, you have no context for why this chick is out there calling herself The Man and throwing goofy kicks at a guy in a crown

The segment is fine in a wrestling vacuum but people dont expect characters anymore
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Steiner
10/05/19 6:06:19 AM
#172:


I don't see why her being a confident ass kicker would be something people look down on, isn't that the whole appeal of this thing?
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HashtagSEP
10/05/19 6:08:50 AM
#173:


Steiner posted...
I don't see why her being a confident ass kicker would be something people look down on, isn't that the whole appeal of this thing?


Yeah but you dont really get that from the segment. We know thats who she is but in the segment itself shes just standing there occasionally playing second fiddle on The Rocks jokes

Basically what Im getting at is they might as well go all in on the character work since if anything it sets them apart. Non-fans arent gonna get anything even resembling a gimmick anymore and so theyre going to be turned off regardless
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Steiner
10/05/19 6:11:03 AM
#174:


I think there's an enormous gulf between becky's "gimmick" of throwing out zingers and being cool vs the fiend shutting off the lights and all the wrestlers making dumb faces and acting scared
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Steiner
10/05/19 6:14:25 AM
#175:


Like becky is basically rock lite, we know that's a character that can connect to a large audience.
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HashtagSEP
10/05/19 6:15:23 AM
#176:


I dont think Brays stuff is gonna lose anybody that wasnt already lost before that.

People are used to John Cena and current movie star Rock and Miz and the Bella Twins and all of these people doing appearances and reality shows that put over how normal and real wrestling is that anything more hokey or staged is going to stand out regardless of the severity of said hokeyness. If they were still watching when Bray showed up, I dont think that was going to suddenly be the breaking point.
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HashtagSEP
10/05/19 6:16:40 AM
#177:


Hot take: I dont think The Rock debuting his schtick today would be anywhere near as popular as it was back then

I mean, hell, you always see the celebrities at ringside wearing shirts with catchphrases as if theyre some long lost wrestling meme that theyre referencing to look like they get it
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Steiner
10/05/19 6:19:03 AM
#178:


Nothing in wrestling has ever been as laughable as the Fiend stuff. Seth sat in the ring screaming is the hokiest thing I've ever seen. I don't know how you can claim anything about becky or anyone else on the show is at that level
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HashtagSEP
10/05/19 6:21:33 AM
#179:


I mean that isnt what happened tonight though so its completely irrelevant to the point you made
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HashtagSEP
10/05/19 6:25:54 AM
#180:


Like if your argument is the Fiend turned non-fans away tonight, then you cant use stuff that happened on a previous show as a supporting argument because said non-fans didnt see it.

Tonight the lights flashed and he attacked a dude. That was all there really was to it. Thats not really any more hokey than what started the show.
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Steiner
10/05/19 6:26:22 AM
#181:


It's the fiend stuff in a microcosm, him sat on the stage looking scared while nakamura is in the ring making weird faces is all the same. And for another point, your babyfaces should never be scared, especially of Bray in a horror movie mask
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HashtagSEP
10/05/19 6:27:25 AM
#182:


Hey now, Nakamura is never not making weird faces
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Eddv
10/05/19 6:38:44 AM
#183:


Positioning Becky to be The Rock for a new era is smart.

Showing the fans your angle that is the hokiest wrestlecrap imaginable very early in a new show is a good way to demonstrate that WWE is still the same WWE that is uncool that you don't watch anymore is not smart.
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ffmasterjose
10/05/19 8:12:34 AM
#184:


Kofi got more offense in against Brock during their throwaway match at Beast in the East years ago
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Steiner
10/05/19 9:02:07 AM
#185:


Glad they finally righted that wrong
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Jakyl25
10/05/19 11:40:42 AM
#186:


3.92M
3.82M

Very good start for SD on Fox
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Jakyl25
10/05/19 11:44:39 AM
#187:


https://twitter.com/chikarapro/status/1180507605044731904?s=21

Want some delicious food? Swing on by #KingofBrunches this #KOT19 weekend and hang out with the stars of CHIKARA!


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NBIceman
10/05/19 12:08:37 PM
#188:


Steiner posted...
Listening to the VOW podcast and they sum up the Bray thing perfectly - some of the people who are already fans may be in to this, but WHY would you put this on the first Fox episode you're hoping people watch because of The Rock? Any non fan who sees that is laughing their ass off and mocking this show to their friends tomorrow.

I was making this exact point to somebody yesterday. It's nice that the current WWE fans enjoy the Fiend stuff, but haven't they already proven that they're never going anywhere?
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scarletspeed7
10/05/19 12:10:51 PM
#189:


These numbers suggest the vacuum.of content on Fridays is real, and that FOX did a good job advertising. Next week has good potential to retain. The BIGGEST test for SD is week 4, after the first "normal" episode of SD has aired.
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ZeroSignal620
10/05/19 12:23:49 PM
#190:


Hell in a Cell card...

Rollins vs Fiend for Universal title (Cell)
Becky vs Sasha for Raw Women's title (Cell)
Reigns/Bryan vs Harper/Rowan
Bayley vs Charlotte for SD Women's title

......that's it? This is almost as bad as December 2 Dismember.

Predictions on what gets added
Roode/Ziggler OR Revival vs Heavy Machinery for Raw or SD tag titles
Styles vs Alexander for US title
Some random throwaway match featuring Strowman
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Jakyl25
10/05/19 12:33:50 PM
#191:


Some Womens Tag Title match will probably be added

Of all the times to need the CW title, its 4 days after they renamed it to NXT CW Title
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scarletspeed7
10/05/19 12:36:46 PM
#192:


Yeah I agree. There's no fun workrate match. If AJ shows up, maybe, but his OC stuff doesn't seem made for that.
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ZeroSignal620
10/05/19 12:46:51 PM
#193:


Jakyl25 posted...
Of all the times to need the CW title, its 4 days after they renamed it to NXT CW Title


Oh damn, just noticed :/

scarletspeed7 posted...
Yeah I agree. There's no fun workrate match. If AJ shows up, maybe, but his OC stuff doesn't seem made for that.


Knowing our luck, we'll just get a throwaway 6-man tag with The OC and probably Strowman, Alexander, and Ricochet.

I think they'll save the Rusev/Lana/Lashley angle for Raw. Lashley will probably join Team Flair for Crown Jewel since Rusev is likely on Team Hogan
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Jakyl25
10/05/19 12:48:07 PM
#194:


Oh god, maybe their panic move to NXTs ratings defeat is to send Shane there as a heel authority figure
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Mega Mana
10/05/19 1:45:18 PM
#195:


I honestly thought the finish of the match wasn't supposed to be that fast until Cain came out. The way Kofi bounced headfirst taking that F5, I thought for sure he was just absolutely rocked. I still do think that with how much time Brock ate up walking back and forth from the ring to close the show. Any word on if Kofi suffered some kind of concussion or something?
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TheRock1525
10/05/19 1:49:16 PM
#196:


I mean they had him doing a backstage segment post-match so I doubt it.
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TheRock1525
10/05/19 2:58:20 PM
#197:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr9j5UtPIN4" data-time="


They spend about 5 seconds playing video games.
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Lopen
10/05/19 7:02:28 PM
#198:


Cain thing kinda reminded me of TITO ORTIZ!?!?! in a way. I guess maybe the Fox audience will be into it though. Are any wrestling fans actually into this? I mean I've watched enough UFC to "get it" and I'm not.
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ExThaNemesis
10/06/19 1:25:06 AM
#199:


Just saw how they had Kofi's reign end.

Atrocious.

Literally all of MWC's anti AEW arguments absolutely obliterated by that one moment alone. Trash.
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Eddv
10/06/19 1:30:45 AM
#200:


Lopen posted...
Cain thing kinda reminded me of TITO ORTIZ!?!?! in a way. I guess maybe the Fox audience will be into it though. Are any wrestling fans actually into this? I mean I've watched enough UFC to "get it" and I'm not.


They really did everything possible to minimize its impact. So yeah if you were getting Rampage/Tito vibes so were me and scarlet.

They also cast it in what was basically the samenlight as Tyson Fury/Braun and they did so immediately after turboburying Kofi who say what Steiner will is still really popular and respected.

But worst of all, after Ronda I'm not sure that even done well this is an angle that can work in yhe WWE
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