Board 8 > Yu Yu Hakusho Mafia Topic 3: ROSE WHIP!!!

(+) Yeah! (+)

After the death of Yusuke and the field mouse, our heroes gathered together They made sure to stick close knowing that they were stronger together. Over night they came up with a plan. They had met a few new people in the course their struggle. These people knew the city better. "Today we take the fight to the enemy!"

I saw him he's our new enemy!

I agree.

Wait no, you're both lying.

Sultan's attacks were strong. But as our heroes mourned the death of their friend, theirs were stronger. They passed their limits and struck Sultan down.

He was Shinobu Sensui, Untargetable Serial Killer.

Thinking the threat over, our heroes celeberated together. "Yusuke has been avenged!"

But they were wrong. When they woke up the next morning they found one of their new friends dead.

Red has died, he was Asato Kido, TOWN Shadow Psychic (role blocker).

13 Alive:
1. Ben (benjamin3740)
2. Blade (Meow1000) / Scare (ScareChan)
3. Brohan (MysticBrohan)
4. Chris (DoomTheGyarados)
5. Corrik (Corrik7)
6. FD (Forceful_Dragon)
7. Gravy (greengravy294)
8. HB (Hbthebattle)
9. IGCD (IfGodCouldDie)
10. Lea (Leanansidhe)
11. Lopen (Lopen)
12. MZero (MZero11)
13. SBell (Obellisk)

Deadlist:
LD1: Ulti - Yusuke Urameshi, TOWN Tracker
KN1: Han - Jorge the Ogre, TOWN Vanilla
LD2: Sultan - Shinobu Sensui, Untargetable Serial Killer
KN2: Red - Asato Kido, TOWN Shadow Psychic (roleblocker)

With 13 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day will end at 10pm Eastern Mon Aug 12th.

Go

@benjamin3740
@ScareChan
@MysticBrohan
@DoomTheGyarados
@Corrik7
@Forceful_Dragon

Not mafia but good enough!

Did you happen to watch red Lea?
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Also Chris was clearly SK hunting yesterday and thus is scum
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@greengravy294
@Hbthebattle
@IfGodCouldDie
@Leanansidhe
@Lopen
@MZero11
@Obellisk

Goddamn it MZero I was about to make that joke
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Okay how are we going to untie this gordian knot.

Go figure none of the claimed power are even shot, instead opting for red. :thinking:
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Chris 1. Said he was roleblocked which he has a power. 2 He seemed to know either A. Sultan targeted him or he targeted sultan and was "roleblocked" cuz he failed.
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I think probably occams razor says

##vote: Corrik

As Scum BP. Targeted by Sultan, right?
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Theres no reason to believe Sultan was telling the truth
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So do you think Lea was lying?
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##Vote: Chris

I'm cool with this. Also, neither Lea or Chris dying makes me not like either of them. Odds as they made the gambit to back each other up to get Sultan lynched.
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greengravy294 posted...

I think probably occams razor says

##vote: Corrik

As Scum BP. Targeted by Sultan, right?

What? Why?
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Touch HB
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Vote: Chris

I'm cool with this. Also, neither Lea or Chris dying makes me not like either of them. Odds as they made the gambit to back each other up to get Sultan lynched.

Why would two scum gambit to kill literally Sultan

It would make sense if he was town power and got rolescanned but he was SK >____>
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Oh yea, the fact that he could have been telling the truth could point to Corrik/Chris scum as well because they seemed pretty down to follow each other pretty easily.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Theres no reason to believe Sultan was telling the truth

Sure there is. He was pretty obviously cognizant that someone saw something at some point.

I mean he pretty much folded to watcher fear, and knew Chris was lying. There is a kill missing night 1. His play was to say who he actually targeted so.
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greengravy294 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Theres no reason to believe Sultan was telling the truth

Sure there is. He was pretty obviously cognizant that someone saw something at some point.

I mean he pretty much folded to watcher fear, and knew Chris was lying. There is a kill missing night 1. His play was to say who he actually targeted so.

Lea saw him target me tho
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greengravy294 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Theres no reason to believe Sultan was telling the truth

Sure there is. He was pretty obviously cognizant that someone saw something at some point.

I mean he pretty much folded to watcher fear, and knew Chris was lying. There is a kill missing night 1. His play was to say who he actually targeted so.

So you believe Lea is lying?
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Although it's technically possible they scanned him SK and saw an opportunity to get cred without bussing a teammate

But with protection still alive it's not surprising Chris and Lea weren't killed

The real question is why is Scare alive aftwr he claimed doc
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MZero11 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Vote: Chris

I'm cool with this. Also, neither Lea or Chris dying makes me not like either of them. Odds as they made the gambit to back each other up to get Sultan lynched.

Why would two scum gambit to kill literally Sultan

It would make sense if he was town power and got rolescanned but he was SK >____>

I think you're putting too much emphasis in the player and not the fact they likely knew he was something.
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MZero11 posted...

So do you think Lea was lying?

Yes. Either you subscribe to Watcher+Tracker+Roleblocker+Chris's role or...what scum bp?
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I KNEW the untargetable SK was something?

<.<
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MZero11 posted...

Although it's technically possible they scanned him SK and saw an opportunity to get cred without bussing a teammate

But with protection still alive it's not surprising Chris and Lea weren't killed

The real question is why is Scare alive aftwr he claimed doc

How would they scan him? Hes untargetable, remember?
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greengravy294 posted...

MZero11 posted...

So do you think Lea was lying?

Yes. Either you subscribe to Watcher+Tracker+Roleblocker+Chris's role or...what scum bp?

we dont know scum's powers btw. Dont meta so early
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Hbthebattle posted...

MZero11 posted...

Although it's technically possible they scanned him SK and saw an opportunity to get cred without bussing a teammate

But with protection still alive it's not surprising Chris and Lea weren't killed

The real question is why is Scare alive aftwr he claimed doc

How would they scan him? Hes untargetable, remember?

Derp

So yeah gambit makes no sense cause he would have been town in scum's eyes and thus they would look awful when he flipped
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greengravy294 posted...

MZero11 posted...

So do you think Lea was lying?

Yes. Either you subscribe to Watcher+Tracker+Roleblocker+Chris's role or...what scum bp?

I don't subscribe to Chris' role tbh
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Also in case it wasnt obvious.

I targeted sultan and now it seems obvious I was blocked due to him being untargetable.

I decided to have fun from there.
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Hbthebattle posted...

greengravy294 posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Theres no reason to believe Sultan was telling the truth

Sure there is. He was pretty obviously cognizant that someone saw something at some point.

I mean he pretty much folded to watcher fear, and knew Chris was lying. There is a kill missing night 1. His play was to say who he actually targeted so.

So you believe Lea is lying?

Unfortunately the possibility of who could be scum in my mind at this moment means I will not accept setup meta because my paranoia has players that are good enough that they can pull it off. I can't remember who was pushing the follow the cop bit yesterday but I really don't like that they were trying to do that.
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MZero11 posted...

greengravy294 posted...

MZero11 posted...

So do you think Lea was lying?

Yes. Either you subscribe to Watcher+Tracker+Roleblocker+Chris's role or...what scum bp?

I don't subscribe to Chris' role tbh

Of course my role was fake.
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MZero11 posted...

greengravy294 posted...

MZero11 posted...

So do you think Lea was lying?

Yes. Either you subscribe to Watcher+Tracker+Roleblocker+Chris's role or...what scum bp?

I don't subscribe to Chris' role tbh

Obviously.
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MZero11 posted...

Although it's technically possible they scanned him SK and saw an opportunity to get cred without bussing a teammate

But with protection still alive it's not surprising Chris and Lea weren't killed

The real question is why is Scare alive aftwr he claimed doc

Also lynching SK gets you no credit in my books.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

I KNEW the untargetable SK was something?

<.<

Very likely.
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How? He was untargetable lmao.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Of course my role was fake.

Hbthebattle posted...

Obviously.

That was the point >_>
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If the SK gets caught lying as untargetable the actual only thing that can expose him (sans a counter claim) is a Watcher.

Thus the simplest conclusion is that Sultan would be truthful about who he visited.
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greengravy294 posted...

If the SK gets caught lying as untargetable the actual only thing that can expose him (sans a counter claim) is a Watcher.

Thus the simplest conclusion is that Sultan would be truthful about who he visited.

I agree with that in a vacuum.

But I see no reason why Lea would lie like that so I have to conclude Sultan hoped to bluff lea.

Doctor claim is an admission of defeat tbh
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Sultan knew he was untargetable and that Lea could "prove" him. When there was no way Sultan could be proven, ever. He called the bluff.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

greengravy294 posted...

If the SK gets caught lying as untargetable the actual only thing that can expose him (sans a counter claim) is a Watcher.

Thus the simplest conclusion is that Sultan would be truthful about who he visited.

I agree with that in a vacuum.

But I see no reason why Lea would lie like that so I have to conclude Sultan hoped to bluff lea.

Doctor claim is an admission of defeat tbh

Because Lea was backing you up.
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Chris is likely scum.
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And yes claiming doctor is obviously a losing move but what was he to do. Consider that Sultan was clueless on what to do, being a third party.
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Why would Lea need to back me up? Why do I put myself in that position to begin with as scum. SK is much more anti town than anti scum. If I knew he was sk I just let him carve people up.
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greengravy294 posted...

Sultan knew he was untargetable and that Lea could "prove" him. When there was no way Sultan could be proven, ever. He called the bluff.

Sultan is not a very experienced player. He clearly panicked and didn't want to admit he target Chris cause people were all ready to call him the Scum RB even before he claimed

I think you're giving him a little too much credit here >_>
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Also if lea was going to lie, just have sultan target han. Simple enough.
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So can I get a recap of what both Lea and Chris claimed yesterday.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Why would Lea need to back me up? Why do I put myself in that position to begin with as scum. SK is much more anti town than anti scum. If I knew he was sk I just let him carve people up.

I disagree, SK can kill scum at night making the game much easier for town. I assume at this point we started 12/4/1 meaning he only needed to hit 4 scum and he is fucking wildcard as either alignment and probably would have hunted mafia as SK. That alone makes him more dangerous to mafia.
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The rational explanation to be is that Chris and Sultan were lying but Lea wasnt.
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And whether they're sticking to those claims.
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The only thing that really throws things off is if Lea is actually Watcher. There is an alleged second person visiting Chris night 1 after all.
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