Board 8 > Yu Yu Hakusho Mafia Topic 3: ROSE WHIP!!!

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Lopen posted...

So can I get a recap of what both Lea and Chris claimed yesterday.

Lea claimed Watcher, Chris claimed 1 shot BP, Cop that can see through GF(and I assume Miller because he said untrickable) with something else I think.
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Also don't forget that Lea claimed two players visited Chris so if we wanted to we could verify that (well unless it was red)

Too much risk when Sultan was on life support regardless
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Chris never claimed BP, did he?
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Why would Lea need to back me up? Why do I put myself in that position to begin with as scum. SK is much more anti town than anti scum. If I knew he was sk I just let him carve people up.

I disagree, SK can kill scum at night making the game much easier for town. I assume at this point we started 12/4/1 meaning he only needed to hit 4 scum and he is fucking wildcard as either alignment and probably would have hunted mafia as SK. That alone makes him more dangerous to mafia.

12/4/1 gives him great odds of carving up town. Also frankly if Sultan was mafia hunting he would probably hit all town.

Have you... ever played with scum me? Sultan is very much beneath my notice.
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Hbthebattle posted...

Chris never claimed BP, did he?

Yes he did, he tried to use it to explain why he didnt die.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Why would Lea need to back me up? Why do I put myself in that position to begin with as scum. SK is much more anti town than anti scum. If I knew he was sk I just let him carve people up.

I disagree, SK can kill scum at night making the game much easier for town. I assume at this point we started 12/4/1 meaning he only needed to hit 4 scum and he is fucking wildcard as either alignment and probably would have hunted mafia as SK. That alone makes him more dangerous to mafia.

12/4/1 gives him great odds of carving up town. Also frankly if Sultan was mafia hunting he would probably hit all town.

Have you... ever played with scum me? Sultan is very much beneath my notice.

"WIFOM"
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The truth of the matter is that either one of Corrik or Chris is scum. There is a missing shot.

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If Sultan visited Chris and was seen, Chris is scum BP.

If Sultan told the truth on who he acted on, Corrik is scum.

If Sultan absolutely bullshitted neither...are true, oops.
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In reality I was just a sad roleblocked power who decided to have fun.

To be honest, it was pretty fun and when Sultan cracked I laughed out loud. I didn't expect an SK in the game.
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Or were doctor saved

Whatever
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Scum Jailkeeper CONFIRMED
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I am just trusting my intuition that Sultan would claim who he targeted. That is the correct play to do if he is afraid he was seen and he was pretty obviously afraid he was seen.
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greengravy294 posted...

I am just trusting my intuition that Sultan would claim who he targeted. That is the correct play to do if he is afraid he was seen and he was pretty obviously afraid he was seen.

The flaw here is assuming Sultan made the correct play

The literally said 'did you see me going somewhere' when pressed for a same time claim >_>
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

In reality I was just a sad roleblocked power who decided to have fun.

To be honest, it was pretty fun and when Sultan cracked I laughed out loud. I didn't expect an SK in the game.

So you were roleblocked? And not BP?
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Now to play devils advocate: if Sultan shoots and it fizzles wouldn't that make him suspicious of a player?

Unless he thinks they were a candidate to actually be doctor saved as well.
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MZero11 posted...

greengravy294 posted...

I am just trusting my intuition that Sultan would claim who he targeted. That is the correct play to do if he is afraid he was seen and he was pretty obviously afraid he was seen.

The flaw here is assuming Sultan made the correct play

The literally said 'did you see me going somewhere' when pressed for a same time claim >_>

Yes. Watcher fear.
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MZero11 posted...

greengravy294 posted...

I am just trusting my intuition that Sultan would claim who he targeted. That is the correct play to do if he is afraid he was seen and he was pretty obviously afraid he was seen.

The flaw here is assuming Sultan made the correct play

The literally said 'did you see me going somewhere' when pressed for a same time claim >_>

When Bus Driver was brought up, someone reacted very wiredly too it. Remind me to check later. We are at a family bbq right now so I dont want to go digging. It may have been Sultan, but I feel like it might have been HB.
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So obviously he comes clean to who he targeted and lies other wise.
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Lopen posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

In reality I was just a sad roleblocked power who decided to have fun.

To be honest, it was pretty fun and when Sultan cracked I laughed out loud. I didn't expect an SK in the game.

So you were roleblocked? And not BP?

Unlockable was the third thing he claimed with his role.
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My brain hurts trying to think like Sultan.

He claimed doctor. Day 2. as SK.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Lopen posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

In reality I was just a sad roleblocked power who decided to have fun.

To be honest, it was pretty fun and when Sultan cracked I laughed out loud. I didn't expect an SK in the game.

So you were roleblocked? And not BP?

Unlockable was the third thing he claimed with his role.

Yeah I know but now he's saying he was a roleblocked power. But he also claimed unblockable originally.

I just want to know what Chris is actually claiming he was.
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I am indeed roleblocked power who attempted to target Sultan night 1.
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Yes but he was presented with being killed.

If you think about it simply: he knows his shot fizzled he knows who he shot. He has doctor on the mind. Maybe he is thinking he will claim it first to force the actual doctor out eventually? Or that it was on his mind so he just claimed it. There is a line of rudimentary logic here.
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But not bulletproof?
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I feel like if I had any sort of bulletproof abilities it would be best to be mysterious and vague with them.
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Chris obviously knew that sultan was untargetable and that equates to scum so he made up the dumbest shit to say "I know you are scum" to bypass everything that he had in the back of his mind to explain why his action failed

The worst thing that happens is that chris was role locked instead. Which by town is maybe feasible here I won't lie it did flip afterall.
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I am going to let my phone charge and socialize try not to make a huge amount of posts that I won't want to read.
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I don't agree. We need to know the specifics of your role to untangle the mess of claimed actions that doesn't actually add up when you consider Sultan was SK
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Chris, time to claim your real role.
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I don't agree with that at all actually. Right now we are on day 3 and no members of the mafia are dead, which means they are at full strength while we are down a tracker and a roleblocker. Trying to untangle based off of roles is a poor idea because there are gaps in our knowledge that may only be resolved by claims and that could be problematic.

I also disagree that taking our cues in the predictability of Sultan-

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My brain hurts why would Lea ever lie in that way.

Even as scum. Just put him on the kill. Ergh.
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##vote: Chris
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Meta says scum is given a bulletproof role btw
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##vote: Corrik

how about you claim YOUR real role.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

##vote: Corrik

how about you claim YOUR real role.

Sure.

Kazuma Kuwabara Town Bulletproof.

Now yours?
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Okay let me spell it out for you

At least one of you or Lea is lying taking everything at face value and thusly must be lynched today unless it's untangled perfectly. Sultan being SK hunted by scum, which presumably has a handful of power roles and may have used one on Sultan and determined he was untargetable, means that either one of you could have an incentive to lynch him.

If you actually claim your role we can determine which one of you was lying easier.
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Lopen posted...

Okay let me spell it out for you

At least one of you or Lea is lying taking everything at face value and thusly must be lynched today unless it's untangled perfectly. Sultan being SK hunted by scum, which presumably has a handful of power roles and may have used one on Sultan and determined he was untargetable, means that either one of you could have an incentive to lynch him.

If you actually claim your role we can determine which one of you was lying easier.

Sure. I refuse to take everything at face value.
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##Vote: Chris

Well take that one at face value.
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Guys we're forgetting the real issue at hand here

FD is scum and still not lynched

##Vote: FD
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MZero11 posted...

Guys we're forgetting the real issue at hand here

FD is scum and still not lynched

##Vote: FD

Lopen and Chris undoubtedly are. Chris is pretty much 100% tho.

Lea, I want your actual claim or who u watched last night.
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What you waiting on, Chris? I claimed for you. I told you you were countered. Did you think I was lying?
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*unnecessary I won't be around this evening post, will try to catch up later tonight, but that'll be drunk*

Don't hammer 3 hours in tonight.
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Corrik7 posted...

Lopen and Chris undoubtedly are. Chris is pretty much 100% tho.

Why Lopen?
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greengravy294 posted...

MZero11 posted...

So do you think Lea was lying?

Yes. Either you subscribe to Watcher+Tracker+Roleblocker+Chris's role or...what scum bp?

Roleblocker is protection mostly.
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Actually yes, I think you are lying. Town should never actually claim Bulletproof lmao.
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Glad I dont need to do the legwork to say corrik is scum bp now
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Official Votals as of post 94

(3) Chris: IGCD, Corrik, Lopen
(2) Corrik: Gravy, Chris
(1) FD: MZero

@ me with any errors

With 13 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

MZero11 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Lopen and Chris undoubtedly are. Chris is pretty much 100% tho.

Why Lopen?

Because Corrik "caught" me yesterday when I said to let Chris's claim resolve itself lol even though it had nothing to do with the claim and everything to do with the player

But being honest there are several layers of stupidity on the Chris and Lea claims right now and at least one of them must be scum. The claims and night actions thus far don't add up, nor do the kills considering the claims on the table.
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Yeah you are right things are very strange this game, but Corrik isn't town BP.
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Btw huge doubt that there are both town and scum bulletproof and watcher in the game with flipped SK.

Too mean to him even with him being UT.
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Yeah ok so Corrik is scum BP, Sultan did target him, and Lea ????????
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##vote: chris

Bye friend
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